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FALLOUT: Season 1 Episode 6 “The Trap”

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wrt pre-war America and their possible involvement in the Vietnam war (the one line abt declaring war on Vietnam in Fallout: Tactics' introduction), during a lot of the press interviews for the Fallout tv show Walton Goggins (and I think Ella Purnell also says this though i might be misremembering) explains the sci-fi futuristic america before the nukes as "an America that never went to vietnam" and he says this multiple times. Which makes me think that somebody explained it to him this way and the Sino-American war is instead the sort of bloody, complicated war in US history as it also lead to the destruction of the world. Except his character, Cooper Howard, doesn't actually criticize the war he participated in, and he seems more proud of "defending freedom," and he's similar to lucy in this way where he actually genuinely has drinken the kool-aid like he believed in justice and freedom and he believed that was what he was fighting for and that it's worth preserving. which is why everything barbara brings up about the vaults rubs him the wrong way. He values individualism and the right to personal freedoms to express yourself. "What if I don't wanna wear a blue jumpsuit everyday? Who made that rule?" Interestingly, even though he's a war veteran, he doesn't want to act out a scene where he executes a "commie." He's supposed to be the hero, America is supposed to the hero, and yet execution is not a very heroic action. We get glimpses of that kind of contradiction between foreign policy and what americans believed about themselves and about America that was heavily prevalent during the Vietnam war especially the Beat era as a response to Vietnam. but the full disillusion wrt the vietnam war seems to never have come to pass in pre-war America. Except the prospect of the US having participated in the Vietnam war and winning instead doesn't contradict this chain of events either. It's not as if they were stuck in 50s culture, though a lot of marketing around fallout is based on this idea, more that there was never any meaningful opposition to America's imperialistic, fascist goals or the pervasive propaganda around America as the "Altruistic Global Leader" with the responsibility to interfere in foreign relations. for uhhh freedom and justice and the american way. Let's also consider the implication that the Korean war was a proxy war between the US and China now instead, and that the Cold War surrounds the tension between the US and China; this would also make sense for the progression of american attitudes wrt the "east" and the inclusion of concentration camps of chinese-americans in Old World Blues which parallels the japanese-american concentration camps during WW2. The implication to necessitate china being the "boogey man" instead of the soviet union/russia, is that they're a similarly successful imperialistic entity, and probably the US lost the Korean war as a result. Another interesting contemporary event would be 9/11. though if it did or didn't happen (or something similar) would it actually change anything about the path the US was already on wrt global imperialism?

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Did the United States win the Vietnam War in the FO universe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLtBwWK9jI

“We have declared war on Vietnam and we are going to win” - this didn’t happen. The United States never formally declared war on Vietnam IRL but apparently did in this universe, which means that by this point, the timelines have already diverged and losing Vietnam is no longer a guarantee.

I think it’s plausible that the United States won the Vietnam War, which defanged domestic opposition to more militaristic and expansionist policies. When the state began to crack down heavily on hippies, as is mentioned in the LR logs, the political mainstream was complacent and the left was too small for them to effectively resist since they didn’t experience the gain in numbers that happened as a consequence of Vietnam IRL. The Korean War happened in this universe also, but my theory is that while they won Vietnam, the U.S. lost that, which helps explain the rising tensions between the United States and China. Nothing like the European Civil War happened in the States because by this point, they’d already found a new boogeyman to justify an increasingly repressive series of domestic policies by returning to Yellow Peril-style rhetoric about the ~spooky East~.

Thoughts on this? Does this gel with the existing lore, or is this an impossibility?

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polaroid pictures taken on set of fallout

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s01 e07 vs s01 e08

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lucy maclean, fallout s01e01

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Fallout show painting study ☢️Loved the show it really got me back into the games. Been playing a lotttt of fallout 4

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FALLOUT (2024–)

A nuclear event would be a tragedy, but also an opportunity. Perhaps the greatest opportunity in history, because when we are the only ones left, there will be no one left to fight. A true monopoly. This is our chance to make war obsolete, because in our current societal configuration, which took shape without intentional guidance, we have friction, we have conflict, and we have war. And war, well... war never changes.userfal

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There’s an old Mexican eulogy…

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FALLOUT: Season 1 Episode 5 “The Past”

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if i lived all my life outside in the wasteland or whatever and i came across a vault dweller first time out of the vault ever never seen the outside before i would 100% fuck with them. id tell them i eat people or something. i would fuck with them itd be so easy

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LUCY MACLEAN + phrases Fallout (2024-)

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cooper and lucy - the beginning

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COOPER HOWARD / THE GHOUL

in FALLOUT: Season 1 Episode 1 "The End"

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FALLOUT | THE END

I’m Lucy. Do you have a name? Monty.

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Ella Purnell and Moisés Arias as Lucy and Norman “Norm” MacLean in Fallout — Season One