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"[...]Then there's the sibling relationship, and it just sort of came through when we were making it that me and Tom had this strained feeling between us, not me and Tom, love Tom. But that, weirdly, Ewan and I, Aemond, we had something that felt like more of an affinity, and that wasn't in the script at all. So it's just really exciting because basically, you just sort of go, 'If this was a real family, what would the dynamic be?' and you just make it. And it actually makes it more simple[...]" — Phia Saban, Still Watching Podcast
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#Aemond Targaryen#Helaena Targaryen#💔#I immediately thought of that insightful quote from Harry Lloyd (regarding his character Viserys III and his sister Dany)...#''He misses her. He misses his little sister.''#And like - I can really see that here too! :'(#Except it's Helaena who misses her little brother... misses the way he used to be...#(More soft and vulnerable yet also more authentic. He didn't hide himself beneath all of that rage and violence just yet... )#This made me sad...
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#Aemond Targaryen#Jacaerys Velaryon#OKAY BUT I NEVER NOTICED THIS!! 👀#Had no idea he was looking at Jace... holy shit!
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if I see one more post about Aegon “bullying Aemond his entire life”, I will go fucking ballistic, I swear to g—
scratch that, I will actually go ballistic right now. this is the “Aegon doesn’t deserve such a shitty treatment” club and I’m the self-proclaimed CEO. we are about to do some analyzing and reading so BUCKLE UP.
gonna make one thing clear first — Aemond was bullied when he was a child. no one denies that, no excuses can be made for that. I’d only like to note that there wasn’t only one bully. here’s a quick reminder:
now that we successfully counted to three, let’s look over Aegon’s other horrible crimes relationship with Aemond throughout the years.
📍 the night Aemond lost his eye (S1EP7), Rhaenyra suggests he should be “sharply questioned” (she means tortured) so they can learn who told him that her sons were bastards. Viserys, in his perpetual denial, angrily asks Aemond “who spoke these lies” to which he replies that it was Aegon. it is clear that Aemond does that to deflect suspicion from their mother but his words come as a surprise to Aegon.
he’s in a tough spot — Viserys demands the answers “as their king”, not their father (to signify his authority and pressure them into telling the truth). and Alicent screamed in Aegon’s face and slapped him just a minute ago, so he may be less eager to defend her. he can easily lie and say that he overheard some maids gossiping or that he can’t remember where the rumor came from. instead, it takes Aegon about 5 seconds to back Aemond up.
📍 we didn’t get many scenes with young Aegon and Aemond in general, but here’s a short bit people keep overlooking: when Harwin and Criston start fighting, Aemond and Aegon instantly gravitate toward each other. and moreover, Aegon puts a hand over Aemond’s back (which to me is either a protective or a comforting gesture). what a horrible brother, truly.
📍 next we see them all grown up before dinner in S1EP8. I think it’s safe to assume that if Aegon has been bullying Aemond all these years, Aemond wouldn’t want to spend a second in his company. he’s seated between Helaena and Otto, both of whom are dear to him, so Aemond can stay at the table and chat with them. and YET, not only does Aemond voluntarily talks to Aegon, but their conversation seems friendly (you can barely hear it in the show so here’s the enhanced audio). Aemond makes a joke about Aegon’s drinking habits — Aegon quips back — and then, what a shocker! Aemond starts venting his frustrations to Aegon (“Even when the noose is so tight, they expect us to break bread”). nothing would’ve stopped him from venting to Otto but Aemond stays with Aegon. he wouldn’t have done that if there hadn’t been some level of trust between them. he wouldn’t have done that if he hated Aegon’s guts.
📍 at dinner, when Aegon pisses Jace off and the brunet springs to his feet, Aemond stands up too, which forces Jace to act as if nothing happened and come up with a toast. Aegon watches him with a shit-eating grin on his face. it’s the face that screams “I know you won’t dare to act up in front of my brother and my brother has my back”.
when Aemond makes a toast and calls Rhaenyra’s sons “strong”, Aegon raises a cup to that. he can sit this one out — Aemond has his personal vendetta against the boys, and it would be safer for Aegon not to meddle. but what does he do instead? when Luke gets up from the table (clearly intending to go to Aemond), Aegon instantly stands up, comes up to Luke and not just stops him but slams his face into the table right in front of Rhaenyra without thinking twice. and it doesn’t look like Aegon is just messing with him — no, it looks like he wanted to do that for a while. like Aegon finally got his chance to stand up for his brother too. AND he also stops Baela from joining the fight.
📍 S1EP9 is when we get a glimpse of Aemond’s ambitions: he deems himself better than Aegon, he thinks he deserves to be king. but once he finds Aegon and they get into a fight, it turns out that Aegon knows that Aemond is a better choice. he doesn’t want to fight him, he begs Aemond to let him go. and Aemond can do that — Criston has his back to them, so Aemond could’ve pretended that Aegon managed to break free. and even once they caught Aegon, I have no doubt that Aemond could’ve helped him escape. but it seems that, despite his displeasure, Aemond values his family the most. he can’t betray his mother’s trust, and he knows Aegon is the first in line to the throne. Aemond envies him, yes, he may even hate him because of that. but he values his family the most.
📍 as @florisbaratheons noted, during the coronation scene, when Aegon glances at his family, Aemond looks right at him and gives that tiny nod that says “I may hate this and think I am better for the job as king. But I’ve got your back.” I like that Aemond is the one who keeps eye contact in that scene. He could’ve turned away to signal his dissatisfaction with the situation, there wouldn’t have been any consequences for that. But he didn’t.
📍 what I find interesting about S1EP10 is the beginning of Aemond’s dialogue with Luke. that’s the boy Aemond wished to get back at for years and yet, he starts by saying “Did you think that you could just fly about the realm trying to steal my brother’s throne at no cost?”. Aemond could’ve skipped that part — imagine him saying smth along the lines of “Wait, Lord Strong! Don’t you think you and I have other matters to discuss?” (to which Luke answers that he doesn’t want to fight and the conversation goes on). instead, Aemond makes a point to remind Luke: my brother is the king, and I came here on his behalf. you can argue that Aemond doesn’t do it for Aegon specifically but for his family in general. but Aegon is a part of the family, and S1 Aemond has his priorities straight.
📍 as much as I hate comparing the show and the book (these are two different things and should be viewed as such), I’d like to remind you that Aegon was the only one who stood by Aemond’s side after Luke’s death. I wonder why we didn’t get that scene… I guess it’s because it would be kinda hard to call Aegon “the main bully” after he literally throws Aemond a feast. but we do get to see Aegon supporting his brother: in S2EP1 he welcomes Aemond at the small council meeting despite his mother’s protests (“Aemond is my closest blood and my best sword”). and he trusts Aemond wholeheartedly, that much is obvious.
📍 let’s get to the most controversial part — the brothel scene in S2EP3: some people believe Aegon is being a bully at that moment. those people seem to forget one little detail:
it’s been only a few days after the death of Aegon’s son whose murder was a direct result of Aemond’s ruthless actions. does Aemond ever address it? does he express his condolences? does he mayhaps help to catch the killers, being the skilled fighter that he is? the answer is NO.
I do think Aegon’s joke was cruel (I wrote a whole post about it) but that’s all it ever was — a JOKE. the humiliation comes not from the things he says but from the fact that Aemond is found in a vulnerable position and surrounded by a group of strangers while his brother laughs at him. TGC explained it best:
I also love @notbloodraven’s take on that scene:
Aegon lashing out so cruelly at Aemond seems to be an effort in making Aemond feel as badly as he does and blaming him for Jaehaerys without actually saying the words.
would this be the right way to act? no. but there’s no right way to grieve and to cope with the loss — and HIS SON WAS BEHEADED so maybe take 1% of the sympathy you show your favorite character(s) and cut Aegon some slack.
+ other things worth talking about:
📍 @bietrofastimoff23 analyzed S2EP3 beautifully and I can’t help but mention the scene that happens before Aegon goes to the brothel. it’s the moment when Larys suggests that Alicent and Aemond are plotting against Aegon. he isn’t surprised by the idea that his mother can do that — but the second his brother is mentioned, Aegon’s face falls and he shakes his head no. because there is no way Aemond would ever do that to him. and instead of asking for any proof, he asks Larys “who spreads these lies?” and then commands him to “tend to them.” Aegon can ask him to spy on Aemond, to find any dirt on him, find any weaknesses he can use — he does not.
📍 it turns out to be true — Aemond was plotting behind his brother’s back. which is treason btw (I don’t think Criston intended to keep things from Aegon — he probably believed that Aemond would let Aegon in on their plan). and Aegon does have the power to remind Aemond of his place — he can throw him off the council with a snap of his fingers, he can take offense at Aemond’s attempt to publicly humiliate him (their conversation in High Valyrian — Ewan himself calls it a “public execution”). but that’s not what happens: as TGC phrased it, Aemond’s betrayal “breaks a bit of Aegon’s heart off”. an actual bully would’ve immediately pushed back, but Aegon silently sits down and doesn’t argue, he’s so defeated he can’t utter a word. he has the means to be a bully but he doesn’t contemplate it for a second.
📍 I don’t want to talk about S2EP6 because it makes me sick but I will reiterate one thing: never ONCE Aegon made fun of Aemond’s disability or tried to cause him any physical harm. just want to point that out.
there is no moral to this story, I guess. if you managed to read till the very end, thank you. if you still hate Aegon, that’s your opinion and you are allowed to have one — but please, for the love of god, just stop making shit up. no, Aemond was NOT bullied as an adult, absolutely nothing suggests that he was. Aegon was naive to blindly trust him and it backfired on him, that’s the actual story. and if you are so eager to hold Aegon accountable for his mistakes, maybe it’s time for Aemond to take responsibility for his actions too.
+ some of my favorite critical posts about Aegon and Aemond: x, x, x, x, x, x, x, x.
P.S. I will not argue with anyone so please don’t waste your time — I consider all my arguments solid and that’s enough for me. if you are thinking of sending me anon hate, pls go take a walk instead, it will do you more good. 🌿
#Honestly? Valid!#Like tbh I DO think Aemond was bullied as a kid by Aegon and his nephews...#And that Aegon probably bears more responsibility there bc he was the oldest (and most likely the ringleader of the group)...#And that ALSO - while the brothel scenario might not necessarily fit into that pattern of the previous childhood bullying encounters -#I DO still think that it was def a moment where Aegon resorted to some of his worser impulses... like he was drinking again too...#And then he started teasing/mocking Aemond when he was caught in a vulnerable position... which is something Aegon USED TO DO as a kid...#(And has - it seems - since grown out of that type of behavior once we meet them again as young adults/teens... )#If anything it's kinda tragic...#- bc I think Aegon's and Aemond's relationship - while certainly not the best - DID seem to improve after the time skip.#Like they were actually a lot more united in a way. Whereas you didn't really see that as much when they were kids.#I actually love that little dialogue scene they share right before dinner starts. I like to think Aemond poking at Aegon's drinking problem-#- was kind of like a subtle indirect way of conveying that he DOES feel some type of concern for Aegon.#Like Aemond tells Aegon that he ''drinks too much'' and while it does seem like he's being his usual half-mocking self -#- I also think that there's genuine concern for his brother hidden beneath the words...#And then of course you have Aegon fully supporting Aemond and having his brother's back in many scenes after the time skip!#Like they weren't best friends or anything like that but they WERE MORE UNIFIED than before.#So it IS really tragic how Aegon (who's so isolated from everyone at this point and is just really lost in his grief) -#- picks up on old harmful coping mechanisms and then reverts back to that childish version of himself and mocks Aemond -#(the way he used to do when he was still a kid many years ago... )#And it's even more tragic when Aemond (who ISN'T that sad little boy anymore bc he's forced himself to change) just takes -#- that one small lapse on Aegon's part and he takes that moment of mockery to heart and then goes WAY WAY TOO FAR in retaliation!#(Bc Aemond's repressed all of his sadness and turned it into anger until now he's just a live wire of pure rage just ready to go off...)#Like it's just sad! The brothers are downright tragic! :(((#Tragic Brothers are Tragic#All that just to say - YES! I totally agree with this!#Like there's nuance to both Aegon and Aemond! And there's nuance to their relationship.#(Which is a rather complicated sibling relationship that they have.)#(And it only makes sense that their relationship would be complicated given how dysfunctional/abusive/neglectful their parents were.)#Plus I don't think older Aemond would've ever have tolerated any further instances of bullying from Aegon (if Aegon hadn't had stopped)...#Like we clearly see what happens when Aemond is made to feel humiliated in any way... *sigh 😞
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#OMG XD#No buy I thought this was a normal HotD gifset!#Right up until I read Jace calling himself ''future Rhaenyra''... XD#(I mean - he ain't wrong tho!!)#Jacaerys Velaryon#Rhaenyra Targaryen
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And Ser Harwin Strong?
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The Death of the Velaryons
by zacckiell on twitter
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HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 02.07 "The Red Sowing"
Yet I may argue my legitimacy to succeed you because I have a dragon. And now you say you will strip that from me too.
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HARRY COLLETT and BETHANY ANTONIA The House that Dragons Built (2024) - Episode 5
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King Aegon and Prince Regent Aemond in House of the Dragon Season 2 Episode 6.
#Honestly yeah!#Aemond Targaryen#Aegon II Targaryen#They have a complicated relationship alright! XD
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helaena the dreamer
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Poor Jace tried but Aemond didn’t even spill his drink.
#Aemond Targaryen#Jacaerys Velaryon#Jace sweetie I'm so sorry but you gotta work on that right hook my guy...#And Aemond just... shoved him down like it was nothing at all omg! XD#Like swatting away an angry kitten fr!! 😂
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the power of wearing a long ass coat. unmatchable
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How to train your dragon or something lmao idk pretend I named this something funny
I messed up posting this the first time and instead of accepting divine intervention I'm forcing the issue
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if you're worried about the new ToS for AO3, please remember that you are primed to distrust because of the way politics are intertwining with the internet right now. remember to look into definitions yourself, fact check, and look through the logic lense before jumping to conclusions.
AFAIK right now, the update clarifies terms that have already existed. it's not changing as much as it is clarity-rewriting. i'm still looking through the legalese (law student, i'm learning as I go) and I will be checking in again later, but don't despair.
however, don't get lax. download fics, connect with the authors, build out your communities. comment and bookmark and save, and please don't stop writing.
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Oi read this!
You guys clocked the warning by AO3 to reduce interlinks of accounts?
Especially for queer users in the US right now?
(written below for people who struggle to read text in images).
"Be mindful when sharing personal information, including but not limited your name, email, age, location, personal relationships, gender or sexual identity, racial, or ethnic background religious, or political views and or account usernames on other sites"
Then the normal "By checking this box you consent to the processing of your personal data in the the United States"
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