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Wait till you find out that the reason masculinity in trans men is discouraged is misogyny 🤯

TRANSANDROPHOBIA??? MASCULINITY IN WOMEN BEING DISCOURAGED IS SOMEHOW AN ANTI MASCULINITY THING????? one must chuckle........... *sees an example of misogyny* "this is oppression towards men actually".
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There’s literally zero support for trans men whi experience DV.
Even local trans orgs will blow you off because they seem to assume that you can only experience DV if you’re trans femme.
It really is enough to make you want to go down the “detransition and TERF” pipeline because wtf else can you do? The legal system treats you like shit, your trans “allies” dgaf. You get treated like garbage explicitly because you are trans, but you also don’t get that recognition. There’s no shelter for you, unless you are willing to accept womanhood.
It feels like I wouldn’t be in permanent hell poverty if I had detransitioned. I had to choose between being myself, or being willing to accept the battered cis woman narrative and help.
I really get you and that is absolutely awful. Trans men need more support systems and I am so so sorry that you haven’t gotten the help you need. It’s not right and it’s not fair and I’m so proud of you for staying true to who you are despite the hardships you’re facing due to it. You’re extremely brave.
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Sorry, your term ‘people are mean to me because I’m trans masc’ is transmisogynistic because it implies people are only mean to trans mascs, something you clearly meant to imply.
Hi I can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not but either way it’s exactly what I’m talking about
#asks#transandrophobia#dayum imagine if when someone’s mean to one person it didn’t mean that no one’s mean to anyone else ever#or that those people can’t talk about it when people are mean to them#infact they should talk about it
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I'm wondering when exactly a trans man gains male privilege and magically stops facing discrimination. Like, if a 16 year old asks their friends to call them john, but they have shitty parents who wouldn't let them cut their hair or wear masculine clothes, are there really idiots who think they have privilege like it's a magical boon that is automatically bestowed?
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Hi I’ve invented a new term it’s called ‘people are mean to me because I’m trans masc’
It’s a term for talking about how people are mean to me because I’m trans masc.
It’s about how people treat me as less than a cis man and less than a cis woman because I am neither.
It’s about how some people are misogynistic twords me and some people are transphobic and some people are both.
It’s about how I get treated badly because I am choosing to be a man in a world that wants me to be a woman.
It’s about how I get treated by some people as dangerous because I have he/him pronouns because ‘men are inherently violent’ and how I am also treated as a stupid child who doesn’t understand myself enough to know what I want to do with my body because of misogyny.
It’s about how I’ve been threatened with forced impregnation and pregnancy.
It’s about how I have a hard time accessing healthcare.
Oh- what’s that? You don’t think I should talk about those things? You don’t think I should because my term is talking over women? You think that I’m trying to steal things from women because I’m a man and that’s what men do? You think that I don’t really experience these things all the time because men don’t experience misogyny? You think I should make a new term? Ah. I see. My bad.
Hi! I’ve invented a new term it’s called ‘people are mean to me because I’m trans masc-
#transandrophobia#I’m getting real tired out here#like I thought it’d be pretty easy to understand#that people are mean to trans men but apparently it’s not
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The argument of "trans men have privilege when they pass" is also so asinine because privilege isn't just "other men treating you nicer" it's getting unbiased and unrestricted medical attention, it's lower or no statistics of corrective sexual assault or impregnation, it's not having actual laws passed against your existence, it's not having to worry about passing in the first place, it's having historical figures retain their identity and not erased in some girl power misgendering bs, it's having your identity celebrated instead of treated like a loss of something pure.
If you think male privilege is just being treated like "one of the guys" in day to day life, you need to relearn a lot of things about privilege before you try to have these conversations.
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I’m getting really tired of this whole ‘women are the real targets of hate so when people are violently misogynistic to you it’s simply because they mistook you for a woman and if they knew you were a trans man they’d apologize and kiss your feet and say ‘I only meant to target women 🥺🥺 I don’t see you as a woman because I am not transphobic and I am politically correct and aware and I would never do that what are your pronouns so I can respect them’ what fucking world do you all live in.
#the people being violently misogynistic do not care that I’m trans#infact get this#it makes it worse#transandrophobia#trans discourse#misogyny#anti transmasculinity
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Hey does anyone else think it's weird how people are exclusively using the label "afab" to describe people they think are being whiney/overdramatic/victimizing themselves?
Does anyone else think it's weird that people are painting "afabs" as less queer and our queer identities as not real/not oppressed/not important?
Does anyone else think it's weird that people are essentially saying that "afabs" don't know their own identities and that we're all faking/delusional?
Does anyone else think it's weird how if you took literally any of these attitudes towards "afabs" and wrote out exactly what afab was short for it sounds extremely misogynistic?
Like, oh, you think everyone who was assigned female at birth is whiney and over dramatic? You think people who were assigned female at birth are less queer? You think people assigned female at birth oppress you based on that assignment? Hm! Interesting!
This isn't just a commentary on the current state of transandrophobia discourse btw. This is also about the hatred of nonbinary and intersex people who were afab. How people use "girl with PCOS" to discredit intersex people who talk about intersexism in a way they don't like. How people sling around the term "theyfab" and make fun of people who don't medically transition.
It doesn't matter who it's coming from, whether it's transmascs, transfems, nonbinary people, cis people, or intersex people. You're repackaging "female = inferior" onto a more acceptable target.
Please note how this never happens with amab people.
No one ever says "boys with gynecomastia" in a derogatory way. No one ever says "theymab". No one is making fun of amab demiboys.
It's always people who were afab and that should be weird to you.
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this is such a stupid fucking bad faith reading of what I do and said.
one, I'm not obligated to draw something other transmascs artists draw because my art is selfish and supposed to represent trans men like me who barely get represented at ALL
two, the second part of this "twinks with top surgery scars slapped on" was a citation from a post I made venting about how I feel excluded from art that's supposed to represent the transmasc community where majority of trans men I've seen (even post op) do indeed, not look like twinks but have a spectrum of body types, including fat guys. it's my frustration towards pushing a weird sense of western beauty standards onto transgender men, especially those that aren't skinny and bipoc ffs.
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and of course if the only way that you perceive manhood is "the power to harm and prey on others" you'll naturally perceive anyone who you see as "wanting to be a man" as someone who "wants to harm and prey on others". which, of course, leads to insane claims like "all trans men are either rapists or wannabe rapists"
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when people say "that's not because you're a man, silly, that's because you're trans!"
quick question. what the fuck do you think makes me trans?
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The reason trans men are so angry ab the transandrophobia discourse is that everyone on the opposing team is quiet literally lying about the regular experiences trans men have. They don’t know what it’s like to be a trans man cause they aren’t one and so they’re all ‘grass is greener’.
And you! Hey there trans masc privileges georg reading this! I’m so so happy you’ve had an easy time being trans masc and that people treat you with respect or even preferentially! I’m glad that you recognize that you should use those things for good! Now realize that most trans men don’t have your experience and be kind to them too.
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If trans men really had systemic male privilege then I could get bottom surgery easily, inexpensively, and with zero complications. Because they’d put their best doctors, scientists and surgeons on it and it would’ve been figured out how to do this decades ago. Also all cis men would cheer me on and tell me I’m so brave for doing this and that it must’ve been so hard to live without a penis.
No? That’s not how that works? Oh yeah that’s right I can’t even get birth control without a million complications and side effects, they don’t even numb you for an IUD and I can’t get sterilized because my future husband might want kids and oh! Look at that male birth control has zero side effects and their sterilization is completely reversible! WOW! I really love all this privilege i definitely have yeah.
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fucking idiot voice: masculinity is always rewarded forever in everyone that’s why all women in government are gnc and why so many movies have a “tradfem->tomboy” arc and why whenever a trans guy comes out his family is so happy he’s not a stupid girl anymore.
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Wow this ‘privilege’ is super nice
If trans men really had systemic male privilege then I could get bottom surgery easily, inexpensively, and with zero complications. Because they’d put their best doctors, scientists and surgeons on it and it would’ve been figured out how to do this decades ago. Also all cis men would cheer me on and tell me I’m so brave for doing this and that it must’ve been so hard to live without a penis.
No? That’s not how that works? Oh yeah that’s right I can’t even get birth control without a million complications and side effects, they don’t even numb you for an IUD and I can’t get sterilized because my future husband might want kids and oh! Look at that male birth control has zero side effects and their sterilization is completely reversible! WOW! I really love all this privilege i definitely have yeah.
#I was scared for a second but then saw the thing and yeah that poor man#everyone who thinks we’ve got male privilege needs the most insane reality check#Robert eads you will be missed
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I’m getting really tired of people who aren’t trans men/mascs explaining to us what our experiences must be. And then when we ask for proof that this is the case because it flies in the face of our own experiences, we’re called liars and told that this must be how it is because we’re men, and all men must have a certain set of experiences of privilege because… well… men!
It’s a pushing of hegemonic masculinity onto the concept of masculine gender as a whole to further erase the gendered marginalization of trans men and mascs.
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