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dropping more nicktoons unite redraws from my Twitter
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bald bald blad CW oh I love bald CW
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Here we stand worlds apart, hearts broken in two....
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If it makes you feel better, I’ve encountered multiple people who either didn’t know that Danny phantom wasn’t part of DC, or in two separate strange cases, people who thought Batman was separate from dc and was part of the “phantom-multiverse” (whatever that is supposed to be)
It just goes to show how much of its own fandom DPxDC has become. And that's fine, I really don't care if DPxDC wants to do its own thing.
But it's when it starts to encroach on and overshadow the original fandom that still stands as its own fandom that I honestly get really upset. These days, it really does feel like Danny Phantom as a phandom is not allowed to exist without having to bow to DPxDC. Multiple phandom events have had to make rules and allowances and adjustments simply to work with/around DPxDC. I can personally attest to this, having helped run Ecto-Implosion. We've had to have serious discussions about how to accommodate DPxDC because it's so pervasive and it's so fundamentally wormed its way into the DP standalone phandom.
That's not even getting into how some events have tried to very politely explain that their event is intended for the Danny Phantom phandom only, and DPxDC fans have gotten extremely offended that they be asked to respect that. It's not like DPxDC has their own events that cater to their fandom. No, the Danny Phantom phandom has to kowtow to the DPxDC fandom. We're not allowed to have anything that's just ours, nevermind the fact that we were here first.
We're not even allowed to have our own tag. People have time and time again begged and pleaded with the DPxDC fandom to just use the right tags and kindly refrain from posting in the main DP tag, and DPxDC fans get so offended and angry at being asked to do this one simple thing for us. I flat out refuse to go into the main DP tag because - and this is no exaggeration - at least half of the posts are DPxDC. And before anyone says anything, yes, I do have the DPxDC tag(s) blocked, but as a DP fan, it's so discouraging to scroll through my main tag and see blocked post after blocked post, having to scroll forever just to find my own phandom's content.
And that doesn't even account for the untagged or improperly tagged DPxDC posts in the main DP tag. People either keep using the wrong tags (as far as I'm aware, #dpxdc and #dp x dc are the standard tags) or just simply don't tag it as the crossover. I know the main argument coming from the DPxDC fandom is to simply block the tags, and that's valid, but blocking tags doesn't work if people don't use them. I shouldn't have to add a dozen different iterations of the same tag just to keep from having to see them only for it not to even work because some people just neglect to use any crossover tag. The number of times I've been vibing with an unblocked post only for it to suddenly take a turn into DPxDC is honestly depressing.
Look, I don't want to be angry or upset. I really don't want to have an issue with DPxDC. If people find joy in DPxDC then that's great! But I would appreciate if DPxDC would let me have my own joy too without demanding I also make it theirs.
#im kinda glad im not alone in this#dont get me wrong I love batfamily#big nightwing fan here#but it is super annoying to see half of the DP content in the tag be crossover material#However I don't think the people who are posting dpxdc are being intentionally suffocating here#it's more of just a shame that they probably didn't experience the DP fandom alone first.
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All of my major Danny Phantom AUs have a central driving theme. Girl Out of Time's is fate.
I've always found Danny Phantom's contradictory takes on the concept of fate (especially when using time travel as the means of exploration) to be pretty interesting, due to how clearly it illuminates the very black and white, one sided handling of the show's two titular halfas. Within the confines of a single season you have The Ultimate Enemy, a story entirely about second chances and undoing mistakes and changing terrible fates to create a better future. Following it, you have Masters of All Time, which took a similar premise but firmly said "fate cannot be changed or altered and if you try to, you'll only make your circumstances worse." The idea that one character can be allowed to rewrite his future but the other is doomed no matter what is intriguing in how blatantly unfair it is.
Neither Danielle nor Vlad were ever afforded the grace shown to Danny in The Ultimate Enemy. So in Girl Out of Time, I've plucked them out of their canon shackles (Vlad, who must always be inherently evil no matter the timeline, and Danielle, who exists only to be an irrelevant, imperiled victim for Danny to save) and placed them on the same journey with the same question. Can these two forsaken kindred spirits change their fates?
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Being set in the 1980s, Girl Out of Time is a prime opportunity for me to pay respects to the media of the decade. Dani's antagonist, the Extractor, is an homage to Terminator. I'm very fond of this AU because it fits so well within the boundaries of canon that I don't have to leap through many hoops to make things work. It cleanly replaces D-Stabilized as a sequel to Kindred Spirits, and I consider it a thematic successor to The Ultimate Enemy. Where Danny travels to the future for a second chance, Dani travels to the past.
#hHOLLLYFYE FREP42GOUI 42UHGPT2#HOLY SHIT ILIA OMYGFREHVGRUWGRW#OH MY FKIN G GOD THIS IS AMAZIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#HFDUEIOQGVHREIQLBVREJQVREVREWVBJIRPEWBQV
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Some of my favorite "UH, HEY, BACK UP - HEY BACK UP AND UNPACK THAT -" episodes:
One of a Kind: Skulker is going to do *what* to Danny? This episode also confirms that Danny's something of an oddity amongst the dead, but not quite rejected like he is with humans.
Splitting Images: So... Sydney Poindexter was a kid who was bullied in the 50s... and his ghost haunts the school to protect other nerds from bullies... that's his unfinished business... oh no
Bitter Reunions: You're telling me that an old college 'friend' of the Fentons was hospitalized for 20 years because of an accident that Jack caused and is now so bitter that he wants to kill him and steal his wife. Oh, and he's a half ghost now too and wants Danny as his son/apprentice. Great, so kid-friendly wow
My Brother's Keeper: Spectra, in order to keep her little ghost/human shell body young forever sucks the misery out of teenagers in therapy making them more miserable and depressed on top of their already normal teenage angst and depression. Also, The "WelL we cANt coMpleTelY VApORizE iT DonT YoU aT lEaSt Want To InSpeCt THe remaIns?" We do know that Danny has it worse on the misery-sucking thing because of course he does it makes sense
Control Freaks: There's a traveling cirus family that's presumably been wandering around the country with an ancient ghostly artifact that controls ghosts and they used it for their acts. Huh
Reign Storm: There's a ghost king. Insanely powerful and oppressive so the ghost zone has been without a real ruler since he got sealed away by 7 powerful ancient ghosts. Could there be a new ghost king? WE DONT KNOW!!!!
The Ultimate Enemy: ... Just, so much.
Kindred Spirits: Man do we all love that scene where clone Danny reaches out to Vlad as he's dissolving or what
So I have been watching Danny Phantom for the first time ever with my friends and I'd kind of previously known about its reputation as a show whose fanbase dives a lot more into the lore than the show is willing to. And I guess I hadn't really understood why until now (I just finished Season 2!). Here's my sort of rambling thoughts on it.
Danny Phantom isn't a show about the horror of ghosts and the dead coexisting in the human realm. It's a show about dropping the most out of pocket lore implications you can imagine on people who in turn say things that would kill a therapist dead equally out of pocket, and then neither are addressed but the watcher has to live with the ghost of the plot that is right behind them but they can't turn around.
DP is a little hit and miss in places, but the very thing that drives people nuts about it is actually I think maybe its greatest strength: it really pulls off show, don't tell effectively. How much of that is intentional is up for debate, but the best episodes kinda leave you wondering, or sputtering like "UH, HEY, BACK UP - HEY BACK UP AND UNPACK THAT -" Is Danny's human body technically alive somehow, or is he a walking corpse? Does Danny have a door in the Ghost Zone? Were Vlad's clones feeling and sentient as they melted into ectoplasm, despite Danny's guess that they weren't? What does it say about Danny that he still erased his parents' memories after finding out they'd accept him as he is?
I think the genius of not answering these questions directly is that it's both funnier AND scarier not to. We can laugh about how fucked up it is and kinda hold our heads like "bro.... did they really just imply that, holy shiiiiiit", and that's really consistent with the emotional core of the show as this knife's-edge dance between teen comedy and horror superhero. Fully explaining the lore or being more direct about how the information is conveyed by and to the characters tips that balance and changes the show into something else, for better or for worse. And I really earnestly like it as it is, even if it's very of its time (sexism.......)! It's a really fun show with some depth to it.
Anyway, I can't wait to watch season 3! I sure hope all these wonderful qualities I like about it hold up!
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in honor of the year of the fully developed brain: dan starts making long-term plans
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DP fandom doesn't discuss the dairy king nearly enough. Vlad has a whole entire roommate. There are two characters whose entire personality is "from Wisconsin" in this show and only one of them has a Midwestern accent.
Vlad's house has blown up multiple times and I need to know if that means the dairy king is homeless or if he just followed Vlad to amity park
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Turns out, Fright Knight is one of those ‘Haunted Armor’ kind of ghosts, and someone is trapped inside him!
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I differ finish the other version of this where they’re both biblically accurate lol
Day 2: sep.8 Strange
I guess it’s a part 2 to that other one huh.
“Pt.1”
#havent watched spn but my brain is tickled by the 'your majesty'#and danny not liking it how amazing is this one little dialogue bit
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vlad when hes spying on the fentons
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Sam has canonically killed at least 2 people, she’s killed Danny twice (once by accident, the other intentional) and kills a goth at the Gothapalooza event in reality trip.
All of those small bears are people, she tore off the arms and head off of a bear, she killed someone. Somewhere beneath the cut off point of the hug at the end is a mutilated dead goth and that is the funniest shit ever xD
There is a possibility one of those arms came from the other bear she had on her too, so she could have possibly maimed a second person too.
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