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Cal to Mare: I am in love with you, and I want you more than anything else in the world
the crown: okay… that sounds fake… but okay…
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So… the fans hated the PoV of Cameron (the one character who wasn’t afraid to call the others out on their shit), but are eager to see the thoughts of Cal, who’s duller than my dishwater… probably to have him swoon over Mare and whine…
I’d say that I’m surprised, but I’m not.
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bless
is cal calore okay?
nah
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Cal:“ I am your king, silver born for centuries. The only reason your still breathing is because I can’t burn the oxegon from this room.”
Mare, and entire fandom:
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RQ P.13
Cal Red Queen: Mare... I think I love you
Cal Glass Sword: Mare, I love you
Cal King's Cage: I love you Mare.
Mare: You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it means.
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It’s 2k18 and people are still pretending that Cal Calore isn’t the most overrated character on Victoria’s narrative and has potential to be more than a general
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Marecal
What are your opinions on Marecal? Yes, no, hell yes, hell no. I’m starting to go through withdrawal with no rq stuff. I just need to talk about it with someone lmao.
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How can you like Maven and still dislike Cal and Marecal?
I will have to explain this by addressing both the way I perceive the books and my inevitable response to the fandom’s reactions.
Both Maven and Cal are flawed. We all are very much aware of everything Maven has done; of his betrayal, his abusive behavior and the death and terror he has spread. Nevertheless, he is emotionally complex (when it comes to his relationship with his parents, Cal, Mare and Thomas) and despite him initially seeming completely dependent on Elara when it comes to strategies, we end up seeing that his political thinking and his ability in social manipulation is not to be underestimated. In themselves, these aspects of the character are enough for me to invest in him because they are fascinating and hold me at the edge of my sit. Moreover, Maven is presented as an emotional young man whose mind and feelings were butchered by Elara. Considering that he fought alongside reds at a young age and even fell in love with one, and even his understanding of the way their mind works, I can’t help wondering what could have been; what kind of king he could have been if he was mentally and emotionally whole. I can’t help seeing the tragically lost potential for a decent silver king. I always want to know more about him and I would love to read his POV and get inside his mind. As far as shipping goes, I am a thomaven shipper, but I also ‘ship’ mareven in the sense that I am intrigued by their dynamic. Fans tend to forget that when some of us state that we ship something, we don’t necessarily mean that they should end up together and are acknowledging that Mare should never have to be with a guy who traumatized her.
Cal being the golden boy, loved by everyone, is not something that appeals to me. He did not sit well with me in the first book and I did not enjoy his views on the reds. I did not enjoy his public treatment of Maven as if he was a child despite his evident struggles and I definitely did not enjoy his flirting with Mare when he stood by as they were engaged and without him being candid towards Maven about his feelings for his fiance. While these are nothing compared to Maven’s actions, Cal is acting freely and he hasn’t been forcefully shaped by anyone. He is a silver blade forged by the circumstances and ideals in which he was raised and we see that his critical ability is not lacking, but he is conveniently settled in his ways and what doesn’t hurt him may affect him occasionally, but never enough for him to envision something different. He is also strategically -but not politically- minded, which is not something I tend to enjoy in characters. Here, let me open a parenthesis and get it out of the way: the fact that Mare could see many of these flaws and we still got their insta-love is the most prominent reason that makes me unable to stand Mare x Cal and their interactions lack any sort of spark or elements that would make them stand out and make me disregard the problems in their interactions. His continuous use of the reds as a means to an end and his inability to understand what Cal and the Scarlet Guard are really fighting for furthers my belief that Mare should end up single or with someone other than the Calores -even though I’m certain she’ll end up with Cal- for her character to not be reduced. While Cal could develop, I don’t think that there’s enough page-time at this point for a character who hasn’t changed his mind after spending so much time with reds to convincingly have a genuine ideological shift.
Textually, @vaveyard acknowledges the problematic aspects of both characters (of Maven’t through everyone and of Cal through Maven, Cameron, Farley and occasionally through Mare), as she should, so I can’t blame her, BUT the majority of the fandom doesn’t. Cal is treated as the white knight and Maven like a demon. Maven’s lack of control of his situation is disregarded and the same happens when it comes to every self-serving or silver-serving choice Cal makes consciously with disregard to Red lives. Despite this not being a fault of the actual story, it makes me inclined to have negative feelings towards Cal everytime I am critical towards the characters actions and contemplate on how he is being glossed over.
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Cal: mare and I broke up..
Cal: :(((
Cal: how to get back the crown thread
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“Cal Calore is not an ally,” I say into the mic.
The crowd boos. I begin to walk off in shame, when a voice speaks and commands silence from the room.
"She's right," they say. I look for the owner of the voice. There in the 5th row stands: anyone with more than two brain cells.
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Cal vs Maven
I often have lengthy heated conversations with @highlordofthedaycourt about who is a better character. She is adamant that Cal is, whereas I am more of a Maven fan. I mean, c’mon he’s soo much better than Cal and like 100 times more interesting. I just feel Cal is such a stereotypical YA character but Maven is kinda unique, ya know? Not to mention Cal is extremely annoying. I can’t be the only one that feels like this…
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(un)happy birthday
to our crackhead
we wish you
slow and painful death
🎉🎊
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Yeah... You probably are... How can you not love our sexy stud muffin?? Marec*l is such a good ship,,,, so interesting and um... so, so sexy? Just look at them!! , 😍😍😘👌👅💦
Almost every Red Queen blog I follow/access has something about Marecal in their description. Like… How?
Am I the only one that doesn’t ship Marecal in this fandom?
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"gEt oUT oF mY nOTiFICAtiOnS"
i am so confused rn
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I’ve heard Cal stans saying that antis shouldn’t get mad at Cal for not being a good ally because he’s trying to improve and because changing your views isn’t an on-off switch. I know that unlearning problematic shit isn’t gonna happen overnight, and I don’t expect him to do that, especially when I’m still unlearning problematic shit. But that’s not the point that antis, as I’ve seen them, are trying to make. What we are saying is that there is absolutely no way to be even a remotely good ally if you don’t listen to the people that your problematic behavior oppresses. You can’t be a good ally if you don’t humble yourself and accept that you benefit from having that privilege and use it for good. I know someone’s gonna argue that point and say that he chose the crown because he believed he could do some good for Reds with it, but in doing so, he’s going directly against the wishes of the people his actions are going to affect, and once again not checking his privilege. He is speaking over those who’ve actually faced oppression because he thinks he knows better than they do on how to fix the problem. Cal Calore deserves no defense when it comes to his selective “allyship”.
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