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The ww2 is the one i'm most curious about, the situation looks very unmatched

Predator: Killers of Killers (coming June 6, 2025)

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So basicaly the smiths on that decoy episode from rick and morty

The new short story for LeBlanc is just insane. Imagine you are an ancient mage so deeply sunken into betrayal, conspiracies, and backstabbing that nine centuries of accumulated paranoia make you unable to trust anyone. How do you keep your information network going?

By splitting your own consciousness into countless pieces and having these pieces be walking, self-aware illusions capable of interacting with reality who all are also aware of the other "clones", but each and every single one of them is convinced that THEY are the real one and the others are described as "lesser sisters".

(Also there is the possibility that these "illusions" might actually be lobotomized mages who got LeBlanc's mind forcefully copied into their brains).

There's just one issue with that: the one sitting at the center of all this getting the psykic reports from the others... might also be a fake. There might not be a real LeBlanc at all, just a weird hive-mind of sentient illusions that has replicated itself for over 900 years.

Girl... there might have been a less insane method to deal with this...

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There's apparently a sex position called Time Bomb....

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"Alexa, play "Chamber Of Reflection" by Mac DeMarco"

Thinking about how the line “You make me wanna die too” could be read to imply that Ekko is suicidal after Jinx’s apparent death

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feeling so normal about NIN doing the Tron: Ares soundtrack. i’m normal and not insane. nuh uh. i love NIN a normal regular human amount.

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*I hold Disney between my god damn hands like an idiot sandwich*

Listen to me you capitalistic bitch, you hold my fucking heart in your hands, you understand me?

I live in Texas in the year of our lord 2025, I have SO MANY reasons to crash out right now. You be so careful.

Side note- I MIGHT forgive you for a bad movie if Tron merch starts getting sold at anime conventions.

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And regardless of anithing, we all know for certein that the score will be the best of the year and on pair with the rest of the frenchise

JUST A THOUGHT.

I know a lot of us Tron OG's are worried about what's going to happen to our Fandom with the upcoming movie, and a lot of people are worried that it will ruin things... Newcomers to the Tron Fandom causing a ripple or messing with our zen thing etcetera.

But if I may... I'd like to give another perspective.

This is a great opportunity to grow our Fandom! Show kindness and openness to people who get excited about the new, and want to love Tron as much as we do! New people means new friends, people you can show the original stuff to and geek out about it! It can be just as much fun and community growing and sharing of our long loved franchise as it can be bad! Sure there could be trend chasers and celeb lovers... but what about the people who genuinely WANT to join us? People who fall in love with this just as wholeheartedly as us!

I mean, we started somewhere right? We were new to this Fandom once too, there were people who knew more than us, had been here longer... and they opened their arms and geeked out just as much as we did!

Yeah... I get it... the trailer was barely a trailer and honestly just crumbs.... BUT there's still a lot of crumbs to be excited and hopeful for, just as much as there are things to worry about. There's a lot they could do with this, a lot of GOOD things they could do with this that we can cling to! Even if we gotta do some cherry picking.

We've waited so long for new lore, new programs, new details and workings and fun little gimmicks... this is the perfect time to be cautiously excited for what we can love.

As always, I love this community, and i can't wait to see what lies ahead!

-End of Line-

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So no Alan?

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Nine Inch Nails really are my only solace nowdays

Tracey rambles about Tron Ares again

Tron Ares fills me with so much dread, each passing day is like a countdown to the death of a franchise I care so much about.

The producer, title & main character, is literally Joker Morbius alleged pedophile since the early 2000s himself Jared Leto. That alone ruins the movie for me, and yet every following bullet point makes everything about and around it so much worse.

-Premise is explicitly "What if the Grid came to the real world".

NO, the interesting part of the series is THE GRID, where all of the deeply meditative commentary about our world and visually interesting splendor is supposed to be! Yes we had the lingering plot thread of Quorra coming to our world, however;

-Nothing directly tied to Tron Legacy is specifically being followed up

So no seeing where Sam Flynn could have taken Encom, no Quorra adjusting to our world, No Edward Dillinger Jr scheming with the resurrected MCP; But most disrespectfully of all, they didn't even bother to get Bruce Boxleitnter back, THE GUY WHO PLAYS TRON (and Alan Bradly & Rinzler). The one guy who actively loved this series and campaigned for a Third Tron film for over a decade, and previously Tron Legacy for even longer. But you know who they are bringing back?

-Kevin Flynn is back

THE GUY WHO FUCKING DIED IN THE LAST MOVIE. Undermining the noble sacrifice that was integral to the core themes of the film.

And just today we got this:

This is so far from an advancement design wise of the Light Cycle from either film. None of the simple shape language of the original. None of the sleek visual melding of human & technology of Legacy. While the light cycle was always cool for being a futuristic video game-ass motorcycle, its was just one of the multitude of visual elements that served the thematic purposes of Tron flawlessly.

Meanwhile, this not only physically separates the driver from the cycle, they further emphasize it through all the little gaps where there were none on either prior design. They so easily could've had the red line on Ares connect into the obviously aligned part of the bike.

Even if this is meant to show the separation of the programs from the grid for some thematic element we're unaware of at the moment, we're already going to be getting a lot of that considering the movie takes place in an average ass city.

Also, to be truly nitpicky, it looks really uncomfortable to sit in & I don't like all the added greebles.

To circle back around, what I really hate about the cast, besides the obvious one, is that there are a lot of actors who I think will work extremely well in the world of Tron. Greta Lee, Gillian Anderson, Evan Peters? Inspired casting choices.

Meanwhile production wise we're literally taking David Fincher's collaborator trifecta. Jeff Cronenweth (Cinematographer), Tyler Nelson (Editor), and Trent Reznor (Composer, backed up by Nine Inch Nails) all worked on The Social Network, another one of my favorite films. Jeff is literally the son of Blade Runner's cinematographer, Nelson was co-editor on The Batman, a film with incredible pacing thanks to their hardwork, and while I'm not the most familiar with Reznor's full body of work, I've sincerely liked everything I've heard and think in conjunction with Jeff & Tyler he will make something fantastic and fitting for the tone of this film.

However, the screenplay is done by the writer of Harry Potter & the Cursed Child, and is being handled by the director of Pirates of the Caribbean 5. Choices that feel at odds with the prestige praise I was just handing out a paragraph ago.

Theres so many good elements that are eclipsed by its central glaring protagonist, seeming lack of the interesting setting/designs or integral thematic elements that I look for in Tron, and lack of expectation regarding the choice of director & writers.

Because my two greatest fears are not about if the movie is awful and destroys the franchise as I'm expecting it could, it's either:

What if the movie is genuinely good? Well acted and performed, somehow actually has the same level of philosophical inquiry that Legacy & Identity have? How am I gonna face that reality with the enormous horrific issue starring in it?

What if the movie is bad in everyway that I think it will be, but does financially and/or critically better than the first two? The franchise is not killed again, but revives and bases everything going forward around this awful outlier in the series?

Unless this movie fails so horrifically that Disney wants to scrub it from existence, as they tend to do, the future of any Tron media will undeniably be forced to cohere itself to the existence of Ares.

If you want something that actually expands on the musings and universe of Tron, play Tron Identity. A game so lovingly crafted for fans of those elements of Tron as a connected series. And I know this factually, as the writer of the game itself (who also created Thomas Was Alone) watched my twitch stream of it and confirmed my ramblings about the deep seeded lore and intent of design of the TREES that appear in the game. Only one example of the incredible attention to detail the game delivers on. Plus its also getting a sequel that unlike Ares, I'm awaiting with bated breath.

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I'm worried for the visuals, legacy had very glowing neons and the reds on this don't seem to glow as much on the real world

So new Tron: Ares trailer dropped, & I have many thoughts & many fears.

Number one, I really don’t want this to be an alien invasion type movie, & I don’t want it to primarily focus on the human world- I don’t enjoy Tron for Earth, I enjoy Tron for the Grid, & it’s reflection of us.

Number two, obviously Jared Leto being a main character is worrying, but even more worrying is the fact that he seems to really resemble Rinzler- he was a favorite so it’s not out of the question that they’d try to bring Tron back in that way. He seems to form whole cloth in one scene, which might alter the lore of how programs are made, or who can make them.

You can hear Kevin’s voice at one point, & I swear to god if they don’t do something meaningful with that I’m gonna be pissed. His death in Legacy served a purpose, & to me was a well written moment. If they retcon this somehow it retroactively makes Legacy worse.

Where is Sam? I don’t think he’s shown, nor is Quorra. This worries me mostly because I’d expect them to be the focus if we’re really pulling the story into the real world, out of the grid.

This is a minor nitpick really but the scene of the light cycle splitting the cop car in half made me frown. It’s not bad effects by any means, but it’s so cookie cutter action movie- part of my love for Tron is the way violence & destruction is treated differently in the Grid, & that includes how it looks. The visual splendor of pixels spilling, rather than melted metal. I don’t want a Marvel movie for Christ’s sake, & I don’t put it past them to try & recreate that success with Tron- we all know Disney loves their formulas.

On the bright side I enjoy the aesthetics of the programs, i think so far that they’ve faithfully recreated the style of the Legacy designs, & I’m excited to see what Nine Inch Nails can do for the music- though I’m somewhat skeptical they can live up to the iconic performance of Daft Punk.

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so its unanimous that we're gonna go gang up on Disney if they ruin the TRON franchise with Ares right? We're gonna go after them like an angry mob, the old-fashioned way with pitchforks and tar? Cool

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We need to make this a box office hit regardless, no more wayting dacades for a sequel people

suffering

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And to forget about her femily would mean to also forget about the good memories and she could never do that, she just loves them too much

Unpopular arcane opinion i do not want Jinx and Vi to reunite. They deserve to be different people with their own values that are not connected to each other. And I'm saying that not because i have bad relationships with my older sister...

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I don't see jinx running away forever because i do think she would feel guilty about the way she left eaven if she thinks is the right thing to do (i heard people talking about vi screams being heard outside of the dome so jinx defnetly heard her, and knowing how she that will defnetly hunt her dreams. Probably forever) and narrativly speaking her arc would be inconplete if she left things as it is, so they will reunite....eventualy

Unpopular arcane opinion i do not want Jinx and Vi to reunite. They deserve to be different people with their own values that are not connected to each other. And I'm saying that not because i have bad relationships with my older sister...

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I would agree if they had sapareted on batter terms. Jinx left mainly the wrong reason(she still think people are better off without her) and vi stayed with cait because jinx kinda left her no other choice( i do agree she needed to to live for herself i just wished she had choosed that on more healthy terms. A bit much asking that from arcane i know but still), so yes, they do need to live ther own lives but they did the right thing for the wrong reasons, vi is definetly more traumatised them ever so it will take god knows how long for her to truly be comfterble on her new live and jinx might try but she will never find peace by running awey from her demons, meaning that she will eventualy come back and that will be a whole can of worms precisely because of how she left. So eaven if they want they can't truly move own eaven if they are both doing what they should be doing

Unpopular arcane opinion i do not want Jinx and Vi to reunite. They deserve to be different people with their own values that are not connected to each other. And I'm saying that not because i have bad relationships with my older sister...

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I'm thorn on the black rose subplot. I also liked the world expansion but i felt like it took mal way out of the plot. I don't know i just didn't like how her got awey from piltolver's plot at the same time as ekko, jayce and heimerdinger only for her to show up preatty mich at the same time as jayce, i felt the writers hand being a bit too strong on that regard while the boys vanishing felt more natural. All happening at the same time felt a little forced to me, i would have liked for her to be the first to comeback

There wasn’t enough plot for a third season. Maybe for a fourth act, but definitely not a third season. And if they’d tried to stretch season 2’s plot out over another season there would have been a lot of filler and then y’all would be complaining about that instead.

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I wanted so bad for them to interact, i guess i'll never will be fully happy with the decision to let ekko out of the plot for most of the show (and mel too)

Am I the only one who doesn’t really care about Ekko and Vi’s relationship? Lol like I did not need more scenes of them together.

It’s probable she thought he was dead for most of season 2, and honestly good on her for staying away from the Firelights while playing enforcer.