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Idk if yall are still active but I just eagerly quit this show around early season two. I was kinda hate watching the whole way, but I started googling spoilers when I saw how fucked they were being to Lincoln and Raven (and more, but they’re my faves). Do you have any show recs that are similar with the shows “building a new civilization after tragedy” (minus the colonization and racism etc)
hey!
i actually binged the entire show recently and i can confidently say it was not as groundbreaking or cool as the showrunner believed. the first 2 seasons were incredible but it just devolved into a mess and the ending was so dark and horrifying. also the fandom was completely unhinged and did not need to act the way they did 😭
onto your question: yes!!!! battlestar galactica is what inspired me to watch the 100 in the first place. it very much shares the themes of mass tragedy, civilizational warfare, living in space, seeking a new home, and humanity fighting for survival without losing its soul. start with the 2003 miniseries (a three hour pilot) tho or it might be confusing. it also has diversity without the weird racist tones of the 100's diversity, although the cast is a lot whiter. the 100 has also obviously borrowed a lot of concepts and terms from it but i don't want to spoil you. all in all, it is one of the best shows i have ever watched and it delivers until its very last second.
lost in space is also quite cool. and i have heard good things about the expanse! another show that shares some themes (without the space element) is the society - very fascinating
#i have also changed my mind on a few things rewatching as a full blown adult without any fandom influences#octavia - not abusive until her annoying blodreina shit but she was traumatized whatever#clarke - yes manipulative but she really believed she was doing it for everyones good and was the first to let herself suffer for others#no one was perfect ever#everyone fucked up hard and the fandom's insistence on making everything black and white was so toxic#it was just more complex than teen stans could stomach#for example. bellamy killing the sleeping army was wrong. but for clexas to extrapolate that grounders = natives and skypeople = colonizers#girls what??? lol#and similarly the insistence that bellamy is a white man so could feel better hating him?? soooo ridiculous#similarly.... bellarkes did set themselves up for disappointment when they chose not to believe the showrunner about it being platonic 24/7#and lexa was really never bad like even when she left their asses to die i get why... people were just mad about clexa#all this to say everyone would be better off if they watched it with a more rational neutral detached lens and didnt make it about idpol#this includes me lol#the racism was real the homophobia was real and the fans amplified both to insane degrees#the end!
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Hello!
Been a while but I really appreciate this message!
The show was quite a ride (read: insane) and looking back, it's just sad how much harm it did. It had such a strong foundation and fanbase and all of it went to shit so quickly. The racism, abuse, homophobia, torture... it was a mess. Watching the show, caring for the characters. or participating in the toxic fandom were absolutely miserable experiences. that didn't end happily for anyone. The writing and worldbuilding spiralled so quickly ... I'm glad it finally faded into obscurity.
I'm glad it's over and I hope everyone who cared about it is over it too. Hopefully it taught people some important lessons about consuming media and fandom. I know it did for me, and I'm glad it did for you too. 💖
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think the overall takeaway here is that clarke was really the walter white-esque villain of the show all along, and the writing was just too afraid to ever stick the landing so it tried to play it both ways. write her like a villain. tell us she’s the heroine. she didn’t deserve bellamy OR lexa.
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this is one of the dumbest things ever. this man straight up said its a happy ending that the human race is dead and over once the main characters die and its totally cool though bc the rest of humanity “joined a universal consciousness” for real wtf were they smoking in that writers room
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Just a reminder that the tweet you reblogged where Bob talks about stop being a little bitch was made in 2017 around the time when KShum left and the person you reblogged it from cut out the date
Thanks for letting us know. The post has been deleted.
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Of the main cast who have died
White females: 1
White males: 3
POC males: 6
Maybe this issues with his death go deeper than the fact that we loved him.
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Not to expose myself as someone who used to watch the 100 but the way the people who cried, screamed and rioted because they lost representation are the same one’s who are laughing at the death of one of the only filipino leads, one of the handful of asian leads in american television history is very telling. The way y’all were rightfully angry at the way they killed the white lesbian but are laughing at a moc being killed by a white woman after bending down to a white man. Just say y’all only care about white people cause y’all were never good at hiding it.
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@clexa-mafia @halseys-bitch
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This bit of dialogue is so damn representative of Bellamy and Clarke’s characters and the contrast between them.
Clarke is convinced that she somehow deserves a second chance in Sanctum, and in her mind that automatically absolves her of any responsibility of her actions prior to that. For her, apologizing automatically cancels out any responsibility or guilt. It’s like Raven says– her problem isn’t making amends, she does that alright. She simply has no reservation to do the same shit again and again, no matter who gets hurt. She got away with it multiple times in the past, why not once more?
Bellamy, on the other hand, is perpetually tortured by guilt. It doesn’t matter whether what he did was actually necessary. He’s like a post apocalyptic version of the tragic figure of Orestes, forever chased by the Furies. Having spent years emotionally abused and gaslighten by Octavia and manipulated by Clarke, he’s trapped in a constant cycle of self-blame and torture, with no means of escape.
I’d say that leaving Octavia behind is a good sign and a step towards healing, but I doubt the show will even stick to it; Octavia’s mighty redemption arc will be probably be more important than Bellamy’s emotional stability in the end.
And Clarke? Well, Bellamy is simply never allowed to be mad at her for anything she ever does. Concealing the fact that his sister was in TonDC (or that she could save her, since she’s dead to her knowledge, and hundreds of others but chose to let them die)? Nah, we ain’t got time for him to confront her about it. Fucking off to play the girl scout in the woods and leaving their people alone at a pivotal moment, after she became a self proclaimed leader? Shut up Bellamy, how dare you hold Clarke responsible and make her cry. Holding him to a gunpoint and shooting him so that he wouldn’t open the bunker and save his sister? Meh. Sending him to die in a fighting pit, because his plan that would save hundreds of lives wasn’t to her taste? But she did it for her daughter (whom she later tortured with a shock collar)!
It’s easier to take advantage of Bellamy’s unhealthily guilt-driven nature and have him forgive Clarke for her choice to betray her so called friends. She knows Bellamy blamed himself for her “‘sacrifice”’ after Praimfaya– he’s Bellamy.
What better way for Clarke to let her sins fly away, than counting on Bellamy’s forever weighing down on his soldiers?
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the 100: * puts black man in position of power*
the 100: * puts Tibetan descent woman in position of power*
the 100: * puts black woman in position of power*
the 100: * makes latina, disabled character one of the greatest characters in the show and makes her in charge of her own sexuality with absolute no slut shaming*
the 100: * makes half-Filipino male main male character*
the 100: * makes Korean descent male everyone’s beloved male character*
the 100: *presents big, muscled, tatooed, black guy as one of the most gentle characters who would never hurt anyone if he wasn’t made to do so by rich white male*
tumblr: but THE 100 IS RACIST!!!1111!!
BONUS:
in the 100 we have:
* teenage lesbain being the person who holds most power in the show
* teenage bisexual girl being in position of power and being main character
* white rich male being the biggest source of evil in the show
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why is this response literally the least surprising thing ever 😒
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i am personally offended by this lmao like????
a) in what way does abby put others before herself???? she literally only cares about herself and clarke and that’s IT anyone else she sees as a means to an end to help her and clarke stay safe. she has not shown herself to care for anyone else except her best friend from the first season who disappeared and for kane MAYBE. and are we forgetting the time she literally slapped raven for not giving her information and showed no remorse and was shown to not care about raven AT ALL in the blood marrow scene bc raven was no longer necessary to abby finding clarke so why should she care. abby is one of the most selfish characters on this show and that’s not in and of itself a bad thing but don’t deny it when everything she does is powered by her needs or keeping clarke close to her.
b) in what universe is abby griffin a reluctant ruler lmao. she, like clarke, constantly and consistently seek out and usurp power. if abby didn’t want to be chancellor she very easily could’ve said no but she kept going for it, going so far as to lock the former chancellor whose motives were to protect his people to the best of his ability, because his plans didn’t allow for her to save her daughter’s boyfriend. (side note: i find it highly unlikely that abby would’ve given a shit about finn if clarke didn’t love him.) she has been shown to only be comfortable when she is calling the shots, so i wouldn’t say her ruling is reluctant in any sense of the word lol
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when u romanticize and praise adc for a fictional character she played while at the same time vilifying bob, sending him hate, calling him racial slurs, denying his racial identity so you can more comfortably say awful things to and about him, boo at the mere mention of his name when a co-start is asked a question–
you’re not fooling anybody
adc seems lovely and wonderful but she portrayed a minority on tv. bob is an actual minority facing actual prejudice from the same people rallying for ‘better representation and treatment of minorities’ and we all know why.
bob has portrayed and spoken up for the lgbtq community, mental illness, and racial inequality as well as speaking the significance of personal body image issues directly related to his race and he is without a doubt the person on the cast who receives the most hate from people he has defended all because he–his character–now poses some sort of threat to the ship u stan.
u can stan adc all u want but there’s a reason u romanticize the pretty white girl who played the minority while at the same time villanizing bob (a real life minority who maybe hasn’t portrayed a queer character on the 100 but has at other points in his career) and u might think it’s subtle but i assure you it’s not.
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Right so this got a little long and is a little all over the place..
One of the things that bothers me most about bell@rke is that even if it does become canon, it will still be poorly written. Even if they do have romantic feelings for each other (like how though since klak has manipulated bellamy since season 1, and I literally have seen no proof of them actually having a decent friendship), those feelings will be so forced, and the writers will try to play it across as some great relationship.
Like if they acknowledged how horrible klak actually is to bellamy (and the others tbh), and therefore framed the relationship as a bad one, I could probably see it; not like it, but see it. I’m sure Bronte didn’t write Cathy/Heathcliff thinking “oh what a lovely example of a relationship”
klak is written as this this great hero, when she’s never really done anything substantial that sets her apart from Raven, or Bellamy, or Monty, in fact she seems to just make matters worse. The writers have created an antagonist yet treat her like a hero.
Again, I think klak reminds me a little of Cathy in WH, spoilt, manipulative, and quite arrogant, except she was intended to be written like that. Klak was written like that and we’re still expected to idolise her.
Even with the nefarious manipulation and racist tendencies aside… bell@rke just isn’t a well written, believable romance to me
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First, I truly admire your work. Thanks for everything you do. Second, I know you can't give spoilers, but do you have any "safe" thoughts concerning the post going around about Lexa's death? "This is fear based in trauma. It comes from the real pain of living our own queer lives and being erased and othered and brutalized, and then turning on our TV and either not seeing ourselves at all, or... having it taken from us, usually violently." My poor gay heart needs to know someone understands us.
I can’t speak to any future events, sorry to say. Given that, what follows is 100% my personal opinion, which has nothing to do with the show:
I hear you. I understand. It sucks that you can’t enjoy a storyline because the history of popular media dictates that it will end in tragedy. I wish that were different. Maybe someday it will be.
That’s little comfort, I know. All I can offer is my understanding and sympathy. And hope for a better future.
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Eliza meeting Lexa at Melbourne Comic-Con 2016. Lexa (Jess) doesn’t have tumblr, lest I tag.
Also talking about Finn’s death and Clarke’s personality.
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Wot are ur thoughts on the lgbt rep in the 100? Isn't it strange that when shows write a world 'beyond labels/sexuality fluid' that it still looks exactly as heterosexual/binary as today
YES ANON. It’s been said many times already but since population control is a huge deal on the ark, there should definitely be more lgbt representation on the show?? But clexa’s there already so we’re supposed to just ~take what we’re given and be happy we’re even getting this much~ basically. Lmao ever since I realized that Lexa was doing brownface (thanks to la-petite-fadette bc I used to think she was mixed tbh) clexa’s left a bad taste in my mouth………..
They could’ve gone with Raven x Clarke or Anya x Clarke. But nooooo, it had to be two white women because qwoc don’t exist right? Even though both stories could’ve written themselves out………..
And I know I’m going off on a tangent here, but they’ve also got another perfect ship with Monty x Miller because the chemistry’s definitely there. But watch them ignore it because *gasp* two moc as the forerunners of lgbt rep on THEIR show??? Unthinkable. AND that’d be two gays too many.
Plus, again, racistberg’s already so graciously handed us clexa so what more can we ask for? Watch him milk it as much as he can. He’s already doing it anyway. Someone says the show’s racist? “But clexa.” Someone says the show’s misogynistic? “Clexa.” Blarke eventually gets together? “Clexa happened once tho.” Fans ask for more lgbt representation? “I made clexa happen for you godd why won’t you shut up.” That’s pretty much his tagline like pls. In fact, somebody get his tombstone ready and put “clexa” on it. As much as I’d like to be more optimistic about the whole thing, his and the100writers responses to criticism haven’t been very promising and I’m tired of settling for scraps. They’ll keep skirting around it like they do with the racism on the show so don’t hold your breath.
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