#zyz x ll

[terapsina]

So. Which version of the Fangs of Fortune polycule do you ascribe to?

(I'm aware that there are more possible combinations but these seemed like the most likely ones and there's only so many poll slots here and I'm already getting a headache)

[usertoxicyaoi]

from this:

to this:

jfc i need a minute.

[dearmyloveleys]

Things we’re taking away from FoF:

A tragic found family’s intricate web of fate that puzzles even the heavens

Choking

[dangermousie]

Two things I've been thinking about with regard to Fangs of Fortune (it's so rare for me not to move on immediately from a drama; usually no matter how much I like it, the moment it's done so am I.)

(1) The bells in Jiu and ZYC's hair. The way this is a theme that runs throughout the entire narrative to culminate in them being clutched in Jiu's hand as he saves the world. But also - Jiu wore those bells because he was afraid he'd never be found - that hide and seek metaphor. And yet when he was lost in his own body due LL taking over (and significantly it's shown through his being locked in his hiding place, unable to come out), the team keeps searching and willing to die (YL does die!) for him to be found and to be brought back. And then at the end, the bell he wore in his hair in hope of being found is in ZYC's hair forever and ever - Jiu removed the tongue of the bell as part of his belief he does not need to be searched for (his last wish was don't grieve me) but by putting it into his hair to always accompany him during all the years of his now close to immortal life, ZYC has transformed the message - the bell does not need the tongue any more because Jiu does not need to be looked for any more, sure. But the reason he does not need to be looked for any more is because he's always there now, always with the man he looked up to the most and found safety in. He is now always found.

(2) I am still in that moment in the epilogue where ZYZ's soul flies to ZYC's hands. I've talked a lot about that already but I can't stop. I love that the hopeful ending with its promise of future happiness and reunion is possible because ZYC took a look at the final, most awful iteration of the trolley problem (I can't remember who in the tag labeled a lot of their quests this way but you are 100% right!) and broke the constraints of the rules. Because finally in his long long life, ZYZ found someone as powerful and capable and good as he is, but also someone just a tad more persistent. Because ZYC is immovable in his quest to save those near to him to the best of his considerable ability and if he needs to bend the rules of reality and the drive of destiny, so be it. He will sacrifice himself without hesitation but those he loves are different.

Because ZYZ's salvation is an act of love - of ZYC's refusal to have ZYZ do the ultimate sacrifice of walking onto that sword. Thus actually making sure ZYZ is not a liar - he said he won't seek death and by taking the burden of killing him instead of making him kill himself - ZYC makes that statement ZYZ said true. (In a different religious tradition where suicide is a sin that sends you to hell but murder can perhaps be forgiven if sufficiently repented for, one could talk about how this action literally saves ZYZ's soul for heaven at the possible cost of ZYC. Yes, I realize medieval Catholic doctrine is inapplicable to this drama, but I like the different notions of salvation and sacrifice among cultures and how they can reflect different understandings and view of humanity and moral duty.)

It's very much because of censorship (which I of course loathe) that the nature of ZYZ x ZYC relationship has all these lacunae and unspoken spaces. Yes, we know they are soulmates/mirrors but there is room to interpret their relationship as - romantic, platonic, part of a throuple, something else. And I so genuinely admire the narrative for making a virtue of the censorship necessity and transforming the constraint into the message of lack of labels on love, into discussion on all forms of love - romantic, familial, friend, etc - being crucial and not waving the flag of sexual-romantic love supremacy. There is something so beautiful in the narrative going "they are each other's most important person and their love and devotion can literally bring back from the dead and save the world. And does the nature of that love even matter? What matters is the strength of it." Taking unfair, stupid restrictions and turning them into art is something else indeed.

[missisjoker]

Prompt? Prompt. Zhuo Yichen x Li Lun.

Just like Baize token makes Baize Goddess's tears healing and cleansing, Bing Yi's water/ice magic ancestry makes Zhuo Yichen's tears soothing and able to subdue fire in all its forms even before ZYC gets a headshot of Bing Yi's last drop of blood.

Obviously, nobody knows about it because it's not like members of Bing Yi clan just walk around flinging their tears at everyone, right?

However, one particular highly flammable demon accidentally notices.

***

The first time ZYC and Li Lun fight and Li Lun chokes him, ZYC's tear flows down his cheek and touches Li Lun's hand. Li Lun immediately feels a gush of relief, and the pain in his veins dulls. He ... doesn't know what it is, but decides to investigate.

The second time he deliberately chokes ZYC and gets a tear on his skin, the effect is undeniable- it IS ZYC's tear that subdues the smoldering fire in his body and grants him temporary relief. (It's not even his real body, just some meat bag he possesses, which makes Li Lun wonder just how much ZYC's tears would alleviate his pain when they physically meet).

So, he cooks up a plan.

He puts a little piece of a vine inside Bai Ju, next to the boy's heart, and threatens the company that if ZYC doesn't leave with him and doesn't do whatever he wants, he will let that piece of vine travel a little further and split Bai Ju's heart in half. They can have their precious ZYC back - and Bai Ju safe- if they can figure out how to get the ever-burning fire out of him. Until then, ZYC is his.

ZYC agrees, and willingly leaves to find Li Lun in his cave in Wilderness. He is magically locked inside with a very impatient and suffering demon while the company desperately tries to come up with how to save him and Bai Ju.

Li Lun is right- when ZYC's tear touches his real skin, the ever-burning fire subsides tremendously. And so, ZYC keeps getting choked once every 24 hours or so, and in between, they just verbally spar and bicker. When he is not in excruciating pain, Li Lun starts to begrudgingly realize why ZYZ is so fascinated with humans and why he seems so attached to his particular one.

Then, when several days pass, ZYC becomes very weak and passes out. Li Lun is at his side in an instant, confused (he didn't torture him aside from some occasional choking, so what could be wrong?) And then Ao Yin reminds him that humans, unlike demons, actually need to eat, and Li Lun goes "oh, crap!", and sends her to get the food.

Of course, ZYC is faking the fainting spell; he's not some porcelain princess; a few days without food won't do him in like that. He just heard LL and Ao Yin talking about the vine curse and came up with a plan of escape. What he doesn't expect AT ALL is the demon cradling him in his arms, whispering things like "Why are humans so weak and easily breakable" and flooding his body with his demonic energy to wake him up. The more tears Li Lun got out of ZYC, the more the smoke surrounding Li Lun's real body dissipated- and considering that Li Lun chooses to frolic around his cave half-naked, ZYC has been struggling with gay awakening this whole time. And now, instead of escaping, he is nestled on Li Lun's lap, with the demon's hands touching his face, neck, all over his body, with that raspy voice whispering right into his ear, and it bothers ZYC so much he breaks the act.

He is pushed onto the ground in the same instant, the demon growling above him, "You little shit." ZYC tries to struggle, but Li Lun just pins him down harder - the demon is much stronger, always has been - and puts his weight into the hold. Being choked or held in a vice-like grip is one thing, but having a whole lithe demon press along your body while those gorgeous pitch-black eyes stare down at you is another, and it's just too much. ZYC feels his body react to the proximity, and the more he struggles to get away, the stronger the reaction becomes. Heat and embarrassment creep up his cheeks while the demon studies him, then nuzzles ZYC's neck, making ZYC shiver, and smirks, "You're enjoying this." A single tear of mortification falls down ZYC's eyelash and gets promptly whipped off by Li Lun. The demon then rubs ZYC's lower lip and tells him, "you're not getting away from me, Xiao Zhuo" and ZYC feels like he's about to get devoured.

The demon leaves at the same moment, and ZYC crawls back to his corner of shame while dark eyes follow his every move.

(Li Lun has an epiphany of his own- since ZYC invaded his cave, he's been growing more and more attached to the human despite all the attempts to the contrary. When he saw ZYC faint, he felt a pang of fear that he had hurt the boy too much. But when he realized the boy was faking, he got furious - and yet, his hand stilled away from doing any real harm. He realized, to his horror, that he didn't want to hurt the human anymore, but he still needed the tears.... And then, oh. OH. The sweet honey, lilacs and musk of arousal. The more ZYC struggled under him, the stronger the smell became. Li Lun couldn't help but breath it in, savoring it, making the boy he was holding blush and try to hide away from his gaze. A tear rolled down ZYC's soft cheek and Li Lun smiled, the boy was just so sensitive, such an easy crier, the demon hasn't even done anything yet...

And that was the moment when the new plan was hatched. Perhaps, there were other means to make ZYC cry - pleasurable to both parties. Li Lun was definitely going to try the theory out.

***

On the downside, when the company finally presented Li Lun with a cure and got ZYC out of the cave, he could barely walk (even though it was not because of any torture)

On the bright side, the company got a second great demon without suicidal tendencies that, once cured, had a perfectly functioning brain cell and helped them take down the big bad without anyone dying.

***

@randomingoftherandomness

[kandadze]

Ep 29 loose thoughts

Oof, Li Lun's really on his last legs, eh? I do feel sorry for him, but I feel even worse for Bai Jiu - locked up inside his own body, poisoned, forced to ingest human livers, coughing up blood and dying. Can this kid get a break, please.

It's funny to me how ZYC might have figured out ZYZ's ruse because of his top-tier observation skills... or it might have been because he pays *that* much attention to the demon. I guess we'll never know 😅

It's heartbreaking in a way how well ZYZ knows LL, still, after all, and trusts him not to hurt Ying Lei, trusts LL to honor an emotional debt. Also, interesting how even while pointing a sword to ZYZ's throat, ZYC trusts him not to go to certain lengths for his goals... I keep saying this, but- the bonds in this drama! 😭

Is this really the time to walk away without saying anything, ZYZ? (I know, I know. It's so that they can break our hearts more thoroughly real soon.)

Oh okay. So even Wen Xiao doesn't know what exactly is wrong with her - don't you think that's kind of vital info you should've shared, Bai Yan daren? Ngl, I guffawed when ZYZ said, "I searched Wen Xiao's body etc," not sure if it's the translation that's lacking or what, but I'm pretty sure we all had the same thought about how thorough that search was 😝 On a more serious note though, is poison always the most powerful weapon of destruction in cdramas? Like ZYZ has the power to heal stab wounds and vein cuts that would otherwise be lethal, but he can't do shit about poison?

Thanks for explaining why she wasn't there when the gang came back with the scale, I thought it was so weird for Bai Yan to just leave like that when she was supposedly the one to tell them how it works. (Still not sure why it had to be her and not Ying Long or even the princess Longyu herself, but oh well.)

Yes, that's why ZYZ stole the scale. The never ending variations on the trolley problem in this drama (I think I saw someone mention it re the Bingyi cave and then it happened again in ep 28, and now it's happening again)!

"It's hard." And? That doesn't mean it's impossible, right? Bai Yan, *please* speak plainly and in full sentences, because instead of raising tension you're raising my blood pressure.

Ah, of course she would withhold that info if it meant saving her son. ZYC, going straight for jugular lol (gotta love the man, for him restoring the sword means not only getting Bai Jiu back but also saving his own life, and he still would choose not to go through with it if it meant losing ZYZ or, as he just found out, WX.) As a mother, she might have thought of letting her son know who she was when she still had a chance; she might have thought of a contigency plan in case something happened to her. They might have not been in this particular mess now, had *someone* made sure the kid didn't have to resort to making wild guesses, ultimately leading him to be lied to and exploited.

Wow, yeah, okay. I officially dislike both of Bai Jiu's parents now. Also, Bai Yan's words once again reinforce the difference between humans and demons/gods and how they think about time and bonds. ZYC might be a demon now, so technically his lifespan is way longer than human's, and still he might not live long enough to see the next incarnation of the Baize goddess; and even if he could, at this point his concern is the *current* incarnation, thank you very much, whereas BY's looking at the situation from a much wider perspective. Because of course both worlds will be involved. And I'm still with ZYC on this. (Unrelated, but I love Bai Yan's voice. It's not often we get to hear that low of a voice from a woman, and especially not in cdramas, as far as I can tell.)

Oh, fuck off. The fatalism rubs me the wrong way always, and coming from such a supposedly powerful being it's even more grating. (Not for the first time while watching this drama I get a flashback to reading Clamp's "X-1999," the set-up and tone is eerily similar.)

Well I guess I got my wish. Li Lun, you sad little demon possessing a dying child's body, I feel for you and your longing. The white petals around them (white, for death and mourning), oh my heart. The fact that they kept switching the actors throughout his reflections made it even more painful. And then he goes and (indirectly) quotes ZYC, the bit about the lamp kept on for travellers... while Ying Lei can only listen and cry. Oof. Can't help but notice that he still focuses mostly on his own suffering, though... I guess it's fair, for all intents and purposes he still has a mentality of a hurt teenager.

The whiplash I got when he switched to, "if I die, I have to find someone to die with," ouch 🤣 Once a drama queen, always a drama queen, right, LL? Gotta find yourself the grandest stage for your final exit... am I ready to see that? (I adore his character song, btw, even though when I first heard it, it gave me a completely different image of what his character's going to be. Hmm.)

Again, fuck right off, Bai Yan. I kinda wish they showed us more of WX in that scene, but hey, I'll take ZYC's memories, too (probably the first time with a time stamp!). "You must live well." It's like a refrain at this point that they seem to cling to, the worse the circumstances get. And the care between them, I'll never be over the bonds we're being shown in this drama.

I relate to WX so much. Like I get the idea that some things are worth dying for and no one in the gang would hesitate to put their lives on the line. And still, WX wants to live. Staying alive is just as, if not more, difficult as dying. Staying alive while others leave is difficult. Only when you stay alive can you really change the narrative. (Also, can we please *stop* sitting on that goddamn bridge. Why are you even there when ZYC was clearly shown back at the Mount Kunlun? Come to think of it, I just realized that they seem to have completely forgotten about Ying Lei??? And where did PSJ go?)

"How is wanting to live not the right choice?" Funny, coming from you of all people, ZYZ. Will you make the right choice for yourself, then? Thank you, WX. Make him sit on that for a bit... Ngl, I cheered when she tore up that goddamned contract. I don't care if they get to kiss now or no, but I care that he won't have to experience a mild heart attack every time he focuses on his affection towards her. (Because I've never seen him look at her as you would a colleague, so technically his heart should've been acting up nonstop, unless the emphasis was on conscious intent on his part. I'd have to rewatch that ep to see if they actually mention the exact wording.)

Awww look at her boys going "I'll find a way" at the same time! I just hope I'm not gonna cry when their way turns out to be yet another self-sacrificial mission. Interesting, there's a bottle of wine and two cups sitting by ZYC, even though he seems to have been sitting there by himself for quite a while... is it going to be one of those tiny details that become relevant later? (I love how this drama makes me pay attention!)

Oh dear gods, I really hope this isn't what I think it is. ZYC!!!

GODDAMNIT IT IS, HE WENT TO SEE WZY BY HIMSELF, FUCKKKKKK

At this point in the story my sincere wish is that, if nothing else, we *will* get to see WZY dying a slow and horrible death. If *he* survives, I'm throwing this whole drama in the garbage. (Also, somehow I'm not in the slightest concerned about what ZYC's choice might be. I trust him this much.)

Lol the moment Bai Yan mentioned that the fire of the mortal world is not enough to forge ZYC's sword I totally went, "it has to be taken to the Mount Dooooooom!" 🤣

Huh, okay, I didn't expect the ever-burning wood to be necessary for this. That's how we know that we're close to the final boss battle, folks, the quests are getting more and more complex.

"Take it"??? Wait, is it that easy? Oh no, of course not. How did it *not* burn him up after all this time though, was it just chilling in his body without actually doing anything? Other than accidentally hurting LL with it, I don't think we've ever seen ZYZ use it in any way, either 🤔 Okay, so he needs the creation stone as well, okay-

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲

That's the live reaction of yours truly at *that* visual of golden light blasting from ZYC's sword as he grasps it. Holyyyyyy shit, Guo Jingming, Silmarillion adaptation when????

Oh gods, their hands on that stone. Like in ZYZ's vision. I'm scared again. The image of ZYC morphing into LL and then back again!!! If you want ZYC to promise that he'd protect the Wilderness with you, then *you* better promise not to die, ZYZ! Also, could they be any more queer coded at this point? (Aww, WX, I want to give her a hug so badly. Where the hell is PSJ when you need her???)

I take that back, they can and currently are even more queer coded. ZYZ's face when ZYC prepares his drink for him with yet another jade pendant!!! This whole scene, starting with one of my favorite songs from the OST playing in the background, the soft focus, warm lights, close-ups of their faces, the way they gaze at each other... so beautiful. Of course there had to be some theatrics (ZYZ) and fond exasperation (ZYC) involved, too, that's just how they roll, and I'm eating it alllll up.

Did they *have* to go and draw the parallel to last drink and meal though? 😭 also, also, ZYC doing his best to emphasise that their "blood feud" is in the past! In how many ways does he have to tell you that he wants you to live before you get it, ZYZ?

I also remembered their conversation in ep 15, when ZYC asked how ZYZ could live with contradictions, and boy, is ZYC a walking paradox himself. His feelings seem so tangled and complex, but at the same time he's so clear eyed about them, and able to express them, even while saying that they're ineffable. And ZYZ's response! His face! ::head in hands::

The toasts broke me a bit. The way ZYZ hesitated for the longest time before downing his cup for the first toast. The goddamn *poetry* in ZYC's words, the goddamn eye contact throughout, the goddamn tension, HMH's goddamn face!  So good! 😭

!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay you know what? I think I'm getting better at this. There *was* the slight pause before the camera cut to WX and then back to our soulmates (they said it more than once now, I feel justified in using the word for them 😁), I'm gonna wait and see first!

Aw but they're both just so stunning with their hair flying around them lke that. I could watch them forever.

Loved the slow-mo before ZYZ collapsed. Poor WX! That quick shot of her wiping the blood off of ZYZ's chin was so satisfying somehow...

Ahhh I was right, they were in agreement and trying something dangerous together, not against each other! Yay for removing that godawful thing from his inner core, but now what? Are they gonna give it to WZY in exchange for the antidote? Do they actually believe that after all he's done he will play nice??? I love WX, scolding them both like a pair of unruly children 😂

Okay this is getting a little too convenient that they can get eavesdropped on so easily. And not to repeat myself, but where the hell are Ying Lei and PSJ?

I certainly didn't expect to get my wish so quickly lol I guess now we're really down to business when it comes to death countdowns... What did I just say? There is no goddamn antidote! What the fuck did WZY use to create that poison in the first place? The only solution is for someone to use their demonic power to absorb the poison into their own body??? Don't tell me that that's how ZYZ is gonna cure WX. And then ZYC will kill him so that he doesn't suffer. Looking at ZYC, he's about ready to sacrifice himself, though... ::incoherent pterodactyl screeching::

I keep repeating myself, but how is this kid 12. And finally the missing members of the squad reappear! (Just to get the front row, of course.) Oh, oh no. Even though I kinda knew that Ao Yin was going to do this... (I wonder if the poison worked way faster on her because she's a lesser demon?) I can't believe they made me cry over the human livers dealer!

I feel like I said it after every episode so far, but what an episode. I also find it more and more difficult to watch without being tempted to read other folks' commentary first, since I'm so anxious about what's going to happen next; so on one hand, I'd want to be prepared for the worst (so I should spoil myself), on the other though, I want to see what happens with my own eyes first... ah, decisions, decisions.

[yooooowhf]

I always have the most unhinged thoughts and idea about fangs of fortune before going to sleep and then forget it the next morning. Like legit had a whole ffs idea of zyc x ll x zyz that kinda cracked but now I can't remember anything

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Let's decide on the IMPORTANT Fangs of Fortune question! Which of these two is the BIGGEST BISEXUAL FLIRT?