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smokestarrules · 6 months ago

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That one post about people "hating on Destiel bc they're white and male" is *wild* to me. I combed through the reblogs of the poll to see if I can find anything and stopped after like 50 refreshes bc my goodness over 9000 reblogs. I saw the main complaints and *real* reasons people are upset with Destiel/Destiel fans. Most notably:

- queerbaiting (the show doing so or the fans doing it to themselves [it's pretty split])

- forcing an actor to come out as straight

- apparently being salty toward bumbleby during their poll

- discounting Sulemio as a 'random anime lesbian pairing' / hyping Destiel up as being more important (having more fics on AO3, shutting down tumblr, mishapocolypse, etc)

- Super hell

Everyone that's hyping Sulemio up is doing so bc:

- canon on-screen marriage

- the sheer history and influence of g-witch internationally

- most Gundams sold from said fandom in a country that still bans same-sex marriage

- literally posting all the amazing sulemio moments

- and obligatory "let's go lesbians!"

I like both shows a lot honestly. Even without taking everything else into consideration, I think a lot of older spn fans feel burnout from the ship. Especially when it was *the* big Supernatural ship.

Either way, trying to pull a reverse racism/sexism card on a lesbian inter-race ship is distasteful. I'm glad you left the poster's name out. Ultimately a AO3 ship poll isn't something we should be tearing each other down over, but instead a celebration of fandom history and fandom history in the making as ColeyDoeaThings put it in her last ship poll video

Nonetheless thanks for taking my rambling! No need to respond to this! I just felt like sharing

Ooh, but I will respond to this, because I really like the points you've raised.

I actually really appreciate this perspective because I have never seen Supernatural, nor do I ever plan to, and obviously that and g-witch are on very different spectrums no matter what, so it's genuinely interesting whenever I come across someone who has actually seen them both.

And yeah, like, I'm sure it's being hateful on both sides, and I acknowledge that I am heavily biased, but from what I've seen, most of the animosity seems to stem from the Supernatural side of things. Granted, they're losing fairly badly at the moment, so maybe it'd be completely different if things were on the other foot. Who knows! I do think this is ultimately hilarious and that's always what side I'm going to portray here, but there's always going to be people who take it too far.

But yeah, I completely agree with you there. Popularity polls will probably always hold some sort of controversy with them, but to be honest, it could be far, far worse. Hence why I'm making fun of my favorite takes anyway! Keeping it anonymous, too, is better for everybody involved.

#fr though #it's so nice to hear that from someone who again has watched and enjoyed /both/#I do think the burnout you mention could be true #like. 100k fics is insane I won't say it's not #but ultimately this isn't a show I'll ever be interested in. unless a Lot of things about me change lmao #so godspeed to us all #yuri warriors will prevail ;)#smokey answers #animatedanalysis #sule versus them

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