#you want to talk how irl belief bleeds into fictions?

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L'Manberg haters are really a bunch of spoiled brats who don't understand their own privilege or history aren't they :)

Lmao they rlly be treating the "war" as if L'Manberg vs Dteam is of equal sizes and not 4-5 people who are mostly builders and non-pvpers building a wall to keep themselves safe vs three of the strongest minecraft pvpers in that social circle. L'Manberg wanted to live peacefully inside their walls, almost like building a house and staying in it?? They even offerred to pay to leave it. The declaration of war was because Dream could not handle anyone questioning his "claim" as the owner of an almost infinite server, it was because of his entitledness to the land and to his control.

They really be saying "war is bad" and didn't understand why it is bad. Who is more at fault for war? People who started them? Who actually KILLED PEOPLE? Or people who are just responding and trying to keep each other safe? What is wrong with fighting for an ideal you believe in? Do they think all people/countries just go to war for fun? Do they want L'Manbergians to roll over and take the violence they had to deal with? If you say resistance isn't what L'Manberg should do, then I say violence is not what Sapnap and Dream should do, especially as a so-call rule-maker. Wilbur might have been an asshole for the whole drug van debacle, but maybe, have y'all considered? As an admin, there are better ways to deal with it? And with L'Manberg forming - due to Sapnap killing them and such - they had wanted to put an end to the dispute (in which the only side suffered any lost is L'Manberg themselves, mind you).

Not to mention the absolute American-centric view on war and patriotism? A country that has never been invaded since its formation (because its formation alone is built upon colonisation and invading occupied land lmao) has a different view on wars to a country that has been colonised/invaded. Dying for a America is dying to further colonisation, and yeah it's bad and it's on America that it's bad. But dying for a country that America, or any other big names, is self defense. Even if it's "voluntary", the war forced them to fight. It's a lose-lose situation. Is that smaller country "evil" for having to defend themself? (Also patriotism is not nationalism, get you fucking words straight). Like I said, and repeat: War isn't always born from two EQUAL SIDES. Get that into your thick skull.

And just because L'Manberg was a Hamilton RP it doesn't mean it's immediately evil because it cited American ideals. If you look at the ideals, they??? Aren't bad??? Do they understand why America formation was bad? Do they know why the America industrial military complex is bad? Or do they think Hamilton is an exact representation of America and not a santitised version of its gruesome history, made to appease the audience? Learn your own fucking history before you start using buzzwords you don't understand.

And the complete disregard of rights vs duties/responsibilities? A community cannot thrive when its people shirk their responsibilities toward their land and their people. And responsibilities mean sometimes, personal gain and safety should be put behind community wellness. "Sacrifices" isn't inherently bad, you can't have everything you want because if you do, something you want will infringe on other people's rights and then, there is no community. Do people think a community "demanding" some responsibility is "evil"? Do they think joining something means taking the benefits without certains give-backs??? Have they considered why people have to "sacrifice" in the first place??? When the forces that demands it comes from outside attacks? But the community they are protecting is at fault and "evil". What kind of black-and-white thinking is that?

If you cannot see that sometimes you have to be willing to fight and die for a cause, maybe it's time to check your privilege and why you or your generation didn't have to. Why you can live easy without thinking about it. Take a long, hard look at history and how people had to fight to be allowed to even exist, and come back to me with why the cause/community/country is evil because it was born in blood.

So literally :) shut up. Check your privilege. Learn your fucking history. Learn other countries history. And get out of here with that America-centric view <3