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saltysatellite804 · 9 days ago
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I cannot even picture Aizen in the final fight with that fucking dead expression. "Welcome to my Soul Society" and "now I can stand in your way" lines delivered in that empty robotic monotone and most think its gonna be good?
"He's been in a sensory deprivation jail for two years"
Did we forget Soul Reapers have inner worlds they can go to? And also Aizen is a transcended godlike being who can walk just fine on his legs after being in prison?? Talk just fine with his voice? Who has mental fortitude beyond everyone around him to the point he can cut down his own followers without a flinch? Did we forget he has Hogyoku which can infinitely protect him???
He was already broken. He is inherently a broken man and his previous personality portrays it so much better! People don't become empty husks when they break. They become spiteful little fucks full of rage who do terrible things. You think this man would humiliate himself for the Gotei 13, the people who lead to this sensory deprivation "torture"? By that logic he has no fucking reason to even care enough to leave Muken. He is supposed to be the one person you can't break by simply locking him away underground.
Did we forget that in his final battle with Ichigo, he lost because he felt an end to his loneliness for the first time in centuries??? Why is he worse now?????
Aizen having his sad moment after the fight is much more satisfying narratively then walking on scene dead-eyed!
This change was not made out of love for his character.
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comicteaparty · 7 years ago
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March 15th, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on March 15th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on Anarchy Dreamers by Emily Ree.
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✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY START!
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning~! Today we are discussing Anarchy Dreamers by Emily Ree~! (http://anarchydreamers.com/) For those new or in need of a reminder, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer, and you can pay them no mind if you wish. If you miss out on any though, they’ll be pinned for the duration of the chat once they’re posted~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! As a bonus, each chat a top comment will be picked and featured in the archives and on an ad for CTP! All that being said, let’s get started and have a great discussion!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
✨Novasiri☄
Eff me, asking me to choose. Though I do have to say some of the more recent pages have been an utter feast for the eyes due to the nightmare itself out right causing everything to fly off the rails. both in an artistic standpoint, and general 'wtf-ery' for the characters. But, any scene with Koji is
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yes, some of the more recent pages have been truly gorgeous. i might be biased because they kind of got a space/galaxy/nebula feeling going on
snuffysam
Yeah, it's extremely difficult to choose a scene. I liked the page where there was a poster in the background warning kids not to try and awaken on purpose to become beautiful, particularly combined with the scene were it was revealed that Luna did exactly that.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
My favorite scene! Hmmm. Admittedly, I came into Anarchy Dreamers pretty new - I'd heard of it, but not read it at all previously! Honestly? Issue 3 as a whole had to be. I love action scenes, don't get me wrong, but issue 3 really just... Works. It's fairly calm, the coloring's even more emotive than usual, and I feel like I really got a great idea of the characters and who they are while reading it. The pacing really worked for me, and I enjoyed getting a moment to learn about Koji and Tabbi's relationship. (As well as Crow and the others.) It was a great chance for me to get to know everyone as a new reader.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
@snuffy yeah i noticed that poster and really loved that detail. partly cause from the world was built up to that point i was like "do kids kill themselves to become dreamwalkers." that poster more or less answered my question in the most depressingly morbid way possible. @kabo Issue 3 was really nice because of how laid back it was. It's always good to balance action with stuff like this, and I think it was good to give all the charas some more development and let us, as readers, become friends with them.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Right! Issue 3 also made me a bit more curious about the Miho and Koji relationship -- what is going on there, and uh... Which of the girls is his actual girlfriend? :3
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Helloooo.... I didn't get all the way through, only into issue 4 thus far. ^_^;; So I don't know from recent pages.
snuffysam
I feel like Tabbi is the only one he considers himself having a relationship with, but other girls keep hitting on him regardless
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
clearly its both O_O Koji playing the field
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Favourite from what I read to that point was the kiss scene, where Tabbi's memories came back. It was sweet and there was good imagery with the shattering and all.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Miho FYI: http://www.anarchydreamers.com/comic/page-23
And yeah!! I really like how Tabbi is visualized each time she gets her memories. Though I'm unclear on if it's the blessing of the dream god or if it's just them recovering. (Also the imagery when Tabbi starts delving into her memories... HMMMMM)
snuffysam
he may also be an idiot
wishjacked
I've always loved that first Nightmare fight with the horse skeletons and the hospital!! It really stands out to me as the moment when we get hints of how weird this world is going to get, and I love the hints at backstory and all the questions about the Dreamgod.
Also, ya know, I'm just a sucker for skeletons. I say that every time we read a comic with skeletons in it hahaha
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
@sam -- I thought he was an idiot at first, too, but Page 205 might indicate that it's not quite that? http://www.anarchydreamers.com/comic/page-205
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I wondered if there was some connection to the dream Koji had earlier about her, where Tabbi had both eyes.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
so im going to insert a theory here early on to more seriously answer about miho. i get the impression miho is his girlfriend but point out that the six have serious memory issues so its possible that tabbi and koji had a thing but when everyone came back miho swooped in and was like "koji lets date tabbi who no thats silly."
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
That's true! But they did connect in the hospital, too, so maybe Miho was the original girlfriend
I dunno, Koji's clearly doing something, and I'm reaaaaaaaaally wondering when Miho's going to make a nightmare.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Props for the cat ears. I hope there's lots of kitties.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
On that thought, I feel like this comic has a lot of influence both artistic and otherwise from things I like -- like Panty and Stocking and Madoka (A little bit, anyway) So there's a good meshing of elements into one which seems to work in its favor
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
ah but since i havent answered fave scene i second wishjacked a bit. i liked the first nightmare cause i think it painted a clearer picture about nightmare protocol and i liked the dream god. cause the dream god is a weirdo.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
The goose?
(Always awkward when you get goosed.)
✨Novasiri☄
I don't trust that damn goose XD
snuffysam
i trust the goose
i trust the goose with my life
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
The goose is like "yeah no, your problem now"
wishjacked
you can't make me trust the goose, I won't do it for 1 second
snuffysam
he gave them gifts!
maybe
perhaps
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Does the goose KNOW what'll happen? like, if they beat nightmares, is it automatic that these six in particular will get blessed? OR IS HE ACTUALLY BLESSING THEM
nobody knooooooows
maybe he's a hallucination
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe the goose was the original nightmare.
snuffysam
maybe the goose is a weirdly advanced nightmare that attacks really subtly. but one day, FOOM!
wishjacked
bad gods can give out gifts, I'm pretty sure.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
so the dream god is a hallucination within a hallucination? cause i would argue nightmares are hallucination like
Emily Ree
Hi guys!! -walks in 15 minuets late with starbucks-
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
COFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
snuffysam
hey! i'm guessing you're the author?
Emily Ree
I am!
snuffysam
given that you have the same name and a profile pic from the comic?
Emily Ree
haha
I'm EMily, nice to meet you guys!
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Nice to meet ya!
snuffysam
hello! we were just talking about your goose!
Emily Ree
:3
snuffysam
A Goose We Can All Trust
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Hihi! I'm a bit behind. ^^
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
thank you for coming emily~!
wishjacked
Hello, Emily!! Your comic is Really Good
snuffysam
it's an extremely good comic
wishjacked
And I JUST SAID I COULD NEVER TRUST THE GOOSE, snuffy!!!!!!!! not everyone is fooled by his kindly subway intercom demeanor
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Goose is too much into television, maybe.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
tbf id trust the goose over a lot of other ppl in this comic. its usually the friendly ones that are more dangerous. and the goose is suspicious so thus is clearly not the true suspicious one
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Yeah, I think I'd trust the goose over Sissy right now :'3
or well, in general.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Surely Miho is pure and good.
Emily Ree
Thank you guys! I was just reading back into the discussion. I'm loving the commentary, you guys picked up on so many things!!!
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
PFFF Miho is the next nightmare, I'm sure XD And it's gonna be worse for Tabby. Stabby. Stabitha.
✨Novasiri☄
:D hai Emily~
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I actually laughed real hard at that joke XD
✨Novasiri☄
Stabby Tabbi, yes
Emily Ree
She's good at it
sTabbing
snuffysam
tabbi is a good girl who would never stab anyone!
much
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Cutting edge humour.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
She's got a sharp wit.
wishjacked
Bouncing off sTabbi, I just want to say I absolutely adore how the dreamers' abilities are protrayed
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
to be fair when you have to fight nightmares thats gonna be the A+ skill. so its not the worst nickname. cause if there was a nightmare and someone was like "you could stand behind this person or stabbi" im gonna stand behind the person with stab in the name.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Incidentally, the whole Miho pulling a sword out of a crotch... is that explained in the bit I haven't read yet? Is she like the new King Arthur?
snuffysam
it's explained that tabbi can give other people her weapons a couple pages later
though im not sure if miho took it intentionally, koji made it show up accidentally, or what
Emily Ree
She surprised it out of him
wishjacked
Tabbi is probably my favorite, but the whole cast's abilities all SO unique in the way they're portrayed. Always very visually entertaining.
ha yeah that part was surprising for me, too
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 2. According to the Dream God, Tabbi and friends were chosen to fight the Nightmares for a specific reason and are the only ones who can do it. In matching fashion, only Tabbi and friends seem to have a total memory wipe that they are struggling to recover. Do you think the group was chosen before the incident, or was there something about the incident that caused it? What does fighting the Nightmares have to do with their special version of memory loss (or are the two unrelated)? Does this relate to whoever caused the incident and why they did it? What is the Dream God’s end goal for having the Nightmares be fought? What other theories do you have about why Tabbi and friends have such a destiny (especially in regards to what Sissy might be up to)?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Right. I was just wondering why she'd give it to Miho I guess. Though I guess it could have been given to Koji.
I like Tabbi. It probably helps that I have a think for cheerleaders.
snuffysam
she stuck a sword in koji's crotch in case of emergencies
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Sounds hard.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Does Sissy have her memories? o_o And oh man. I honestly have no idea as to what really makes those kids different from the others, and I'm curious to find out more. Like, we know they all died -- but did all 170 kids die? From what I read it was a school shooting... Did... They all try to harm themselves?(edited)
we saw Tadgh's flashback...
snuffysam
in terms of the question, it might just be a coincidence? the gang hangs out together because they have shared experiences (i.e. no memories), and the goose is just messing with them
wishjacked
I've wondered a lot about this-- the reading comprehension loss and changing food names especially baffle me.
snuffysam
the incident was supposedly a school shooting, but they never found a gunman
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe they were all the last to die.
Maybe they were all the gunmen.
snuffysam
maybe the main characters all died in particularly brutal ways
something real repress-worthy
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Nah, Tabbi was killed for... reasons. Hmm.
The language and comprehension issues could just be braindamage. Maybe they were all hit in the head when they died?
or well, shot.
their deaths involved injuries to the brain.
snuffysam
could be, but that seems kind of mundane for the biggest mystery in the comic
wishjacked
The fact that they started regaining lost memories, etc, after their first successful mission is interesting... they hypothesize that it's a gift from the Dreamgod, which DOES imply that they could've had their memories back earlier, but the Dreamgod gets to decide when they get them back and he decided to wait until it was a reward...
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Oh, I just understood the language thing to be forgetting certain English lessons.
And you can't really remember them no matter how hard you try.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah im skeptical its just brain damage cause i get the impression everyone is supposed to have some memory loss to an extent. its just tabbi and them are special in that its so lengthy and extreme.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
wishjacked: Interesting point. Maybe Dreamgod just knew that this is when the memories would start coming back anyway and is taking advantage of it.
snuffysam
to be fair, i imagine being dead for any amount of time, regardless of the cause, could cause some brain damage
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
"I'm not quite dead. I feel happy."
wishjacked
And the BEE GOOP THING, it KILLS ME. It's like the #1 think I spend time coming up with ideas about, hahaha. XD it's the little details that catch me every time, I swear.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
So, is it time for a conspiracy theory? I think it is. The Goose is really a nightmare that can traverse other nightmares. And it wants these kids to jack shit up so he can reign supreme. AND THE WORLD SHALL FEAR THE WRATH OF A SINGULAR CANADA GOOSE
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Made it to the end of Volume 1 now. I kinda like Devlin too.
wishjacked
well, canada geese are definitely the worst nightmare in my book, so that sounds legit
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
kabo plz dont joke about singular canada goose when i could spit out my soda on the computer to laugh. XD
snuffysam
nightmares can benefit some dreamers at the expense of others. the current nightmare is turning some kids into archangels and hierophants or whatever. though i'm not sure if that's particularly helpful, the goose could be doing something similar
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
You know it's true though!!! THE GOOSE MUST GO
but you can't make it. Because.... I mean. Have you ever tried to deal with those suckers? They will attack your car if they think it's a threat.
wishjacked
OH, I LOVE DEVLIN!! I have a really soft spot for the characters in this comic in general, they're all unique but I feel like they're all well developed enough that I can relate to each one.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
the bee goop thing really throws me for a loop. like of all the details thats in the forget zone thats the one that confuses me the most.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
http://www.anarchydreamers.com/comic/page-113 <- also this sequence. ...is that... Sissy? I just noticed.
(erm, on page 115.)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Devlin has the literal hotness going for her. ^.^ Yeah, it's nice that they all get some character time.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i was looking for that page and just wondered that too
cause the hair and outfit made me think sissy
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I admit when I see "Sissy" I have a tendency to think of "Scientific Railgun".
wishjacked
I guess because it seems like, with that the Bee Goop, they actually remember it correctly (y'know, Tabbi calls it honey and is corrected). It brings up the question.... what if they can't remember correctly because everyone else is wrong about reality, and they're right??? But that brings up SO many REALLY WEIRD questions...
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
and i mean maybe the gunman was sissy but she killed herself and since the shooting was so massive there was no way to identify her separately from other victims
ya know part of me wondered that too
that the reality everyone came back to isnt reality
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
http://www.anarchydreamers.com/comic/page-116-2 Page 116 gives a hint as to how they all died though
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
You seem to be assuming there was only one gunman...
snuffysam
the goose also says "that was just one version of your story"
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe they're all in Purgatory? O.o
snuffysam
@kabo yeah, exactly
Emily Ree
:3
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
HMMM.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe. maybe its why ppl have to semi be killed twice. kind of like those dreams where you dream you wake up but its not the actual wake up
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Possibly all the holidays from the old world just collided in April for the new one. No one remembers when they really were.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
The whole world is a dying dream? :3
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, they all have to take those pills, right? If you don't take the pills, do you return to reality...?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe. i mean itd explain things like why those pills exist in the first place. cause apparently they stop the soul from leaking out from the hints i get? but if thats the case who first thought of that. like who sat there and had time to R&D magic pills that stop dreamwalkers form doing w/e when their souls leak? and what did they do before? just cover people in duck tape?
wishjacked
based on how Tabbi treats herself............. yes
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, that's what they do, I think. There were knockoff pills, maybe someone was just experimenting around some day, found a way to preserve reality around them.
Also, not duck tape, goose tape.
wishjacked
honestly I can see every member of the gang trying to patch their souls with duct tape and Tadhg just CRYING
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Well, Tabbi was using bandages or something at one point.
Maybe they're chosen because their souls can go longer without needing more pills...?
snuffysam
tabbi's also got it worse than a lot of other dreamers. like, excluding that short time when her eye was normal, her soul was constantly leaking.
Emily Ree
I can give you guys some dreamwalker history. It's not in the comic at this point, but I share this pretty freely--- a lot of dreeamwalkers didn't make it for long after they first came back, especially if they were visible changed. If they/their family could hide their abilities, they'd likely go on to live a normal life, but imagine a kid with horns in, like, 17th century Europe. They didn't make it very long.
So, soul pills became a thing after people stopped... hunting them down
this has come up in side comics not on the website XD;
But it will come up in upcoming issues, especially as Tadhg starts being able to read more
wishjacked
love the fact that the ice cream shell of Tadhg is STILL the mom friend btw, that was a really good update. XD
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Ahhhh. So this really has been going on for a while.
wishjacked
Oh, that makes sense!! I actually remember you saying that before. XD
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Some of the guest comics were a riot, incidentally.
snuffysam
i was working under the assumption that bringing people back was a more modern medical procedure, but that makes sense
wishjacked
And it definitely makes sense in like.... general human history.
Emily Ree
@snuffysam that is honestly a really interesting theory that I haven't heard before.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Don't go after Devlin for cute fire horns, that's rude.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
iiinteresting bit of history :3
Emily Ree
Medical intervention definitely helps
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I wonder how long Dreamwalkers have been a thing, then...
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I knew it was long enough for them to have stats on it (the 83% thing).
wishjacked
And medication!! Medicine does NOT happen overnight. And legal infrastructure! And books! And holidays with religious elements!!(edited)
Also, there's the historic cemetery that Sissy mentions was one of the first to allow dreamer burials...
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Ooooh, good catch.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Hey, I take some of that stuff with a grain of salt until confirmed. I mean, look at real life -- some stuff just... pops up and suddenly has a lot of power somehow. :'D Though I did miss the cemetary, admittedly
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
It was a grave matter.
snuffysam
that's the biggest thing, yeah. being the first to do something like that wouldn't be particularly relevant unless dreamers have been around for over a century
wishjacked
That implies a pretty good amount of history, I think! I don't know much about cemetery historical status, but I'd guess it would have to be at least a hundred years old.
Yeah!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
id assume the duration of recorded history because of how normalized it is. since nobody bats an eye to whats basically magical zombies.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, I'm guessing it means teenagers can be a bit blase about death.
Maybe the gunman shooting up the school was some kind of government experiement?
(Or goose experiment?)
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Or it could have been another nightmare ✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 3. The world of the comic has a unique setup where people’s stresses can manifest into monsters and dying often means being reborn as a Dreamwalker and having a second chance at life. However, Dreamwalkers also face a heavy amount of discrimination from the general populace. Why do you think Dreamwalkers are so discriminated against? Is it their powers, the fact they’re “dead,” or is something else going on we don’t know about (such as a past event)? Why do you think some Dreamwalkers stabilize faster than others? Do you think the powers are randomly given or do they have something to do with the person in question (especially in Tabbi and friends’ case)? What others questions, theories, or comments do you have about Dreamwalkers or Nightmares?
maybe theres a nightmare god that took over sissy and made her do everything. a duck to rival the goose.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Two ducks.
snuffysam
well first, there's kind of the x-men thing where non-powered people are scared of people with powers
also, people don't like differences. and it's even harder to band together when you're not all different in the same way(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Wouldn't that normalize over time though? (glances at modern society) Never mind.
Maybe it's because they call religion into question. Like, was Jesus a dreamwalker?
snuffysam
i guess some people see it as unnatural, but if it's a thing that happens without medical intervention... i dunno
not sure if religion is entirely opposed to dreamers. there's a dreamer saint.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Not entirely, but some might be. Or maybe religion kind of imploded in the face of it. Just spitballing.
Like, if you have people walking around with "Tainted Souls" or something.
snuffysam
issue is, they've been around for ages.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
So have many modern religions that people are persecuting. Hm, this is getting a bit too real for my tastes.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
gasp!
fiction mirroring reality!
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe dreamwalkers skew the medical profession.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
They sure do scare nurses...
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
They do hate hospitals, right?
snuffysam
the main characters specifically do
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Well, in Tabbi's case, erryone was getting stabbed
snuffysam
but other people's experiences may vary
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe that's the source of their strength then. (shrugs)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
im leaning towards more basic thats its a powers thing. cause as much as i like reading superhero based things, i would not want an actual superhero who could destroy my city block living next door. not to mention depending on abilities that gives unfair advantages. like koji for instance. if he were to play football he could just do time shit to cheat and win.
like i feel thered be a huge list of rules specifically for dreamers to prevent unfair advantages
lest you get the cheeky ones who are like "you didnt say i couldnt do such and such in the rules "
snuffysam
maybe there are dreamer-specific leagues?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
It's something they have to test for at the Olympics.
snuffysam
though cheer is a sport, and there are both dreamers and non-dreamers there.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah and at the end it varies too, their powers and what advantages they might convey. for instance, stabbing will not help tabbi win cheer unless she physically takes out the competition.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I dunno, cheerleaders with knives, kinda hot. 9/10.
snuffysam
i don't think the judges give bonus points for knives
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Awww.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'm back to the pulling them from crotches thing. I may have issues.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
to be fair that was a weird moment. i will remember sword from the crotch for a long while
snuffysam
especially since there's still a hole in his pants
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
How did Tabbi manage to get that there.
and when lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
partly cause it reminded me of utena
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: OMG, so true.
Now I ship Miho and Tabbi.
Seriously though, is it possible to have a good Nightmare, you think?
For that matter... Dreamwalkers actually dream. We've seen that. Do they have nightmares that aren't Nightmares?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that is a tricky question
if anybody can have a nightmare that isnt a nightmare
ie can dream the dream but not manifest the evil
id assume maybe to a minor degree?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
In which case, maybe that's something Tabbi et al can do....?
Emily Ree
Dreamwalkers can have normal, not monster creating, dreams and nightmares. But the issue at hand is when the feelings from a normal sleeping dream seep into reality
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Just like their souls :3
Emily Ree
:3
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Kinda like Koji's dream about Tabbi's eye did. ^^
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hmm
ill have to sit on that information and ponder
but powers. i want to assume the powers give some hint about something and theyre not just random. like devlin's make sense cause shes got a fiery personality.
Emily Ree
Oh yes!
powers are very personal
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Tabbi seems to have some connection to the knives and stuff when her brother was taunting her.
(I'm still gradually reading in the background here.)
Emily Ree
Yes!
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Possibly she used to stab televisions.
Emily Ree
ahahahahahahaha
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
And she's never stabbed since those days.
Emily Ree
I just wanted to say, I'm really enjoying this conversation. You guys are looking at all the details and it warms my heart!
A lot of the feedback I get on Dreamers is "it's weird!"
So, thank you all for really looking
✨Novasiri☄
Its a good weird~
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yes good weird. cause weird isnt always bad
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Life is weird.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i want to go metaphorical with tabbi. that the knives are a symbolism of her desire to keep other ppl away from her because she doesnt want to get hurt or something
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
(As is returning to life, apparently.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
like in the hospital
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Hmmm, like maybe everything's symbolic, the way it seems to be with Dev?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
possible
crow's are the ability that throw me for a loop tbh cause everyone i can bs and debate a reason. crow i cant fathom why his powers are what they are.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
So there must be some connection to why she can cause blades to appear for other people too. Maybe she doesn't stab, but she always feels like she gets cut down?
Who was Crow again? ^_^;;
snuffysam
electric
wishjacked
BRO!!! HOW COULD YOU FORGET CROW, BRO!!!!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
http://www.anarchydreamers.com/cast
Emily Ree
sparky crutches boy
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 4. Nightmares, fears and problems brought to life, are a regular manifestation within the comic’s world. In order to combat this, only the Dreamwalker Guard is legally allowed to deal with the situations. However, insofar, the Dreamwalker Guard has proven ineffectual compared to Tabbi and friends. Why do you think the Dreamwalker Guard is so ineffectual? Is there too much red tape that prevents them from helping? Is it simply apathy preventing them from caring about the situation? Or is it something else entirely? Speaking of which, do you believe the Dreamwalker Guard is hiding something about what happened at Sacred Heart High School or are the suspicions others have just a red herring?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Oh, right, right. I'm just bad with names, you know that. Ahh, so it could be that he was always tied to his electronic gizmos.
wishjacked
I feel like Crow's ability fits him really well but I can't articulate a good reason to feel that way
He just has an ~electric personality~
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Dreamwalker Guard's just kinda jaded.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
no no i made that joke in my head already an hour ago we cant speak it aloud XD
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Might spark something.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
they are jaded but that is some extreme jading. like the equivalent of a cop going "oh hey look over there those people are getting shot. lets just eat these donuts and watch." XD
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe Dreamwalker guard can't afford to pay for property damages, so they don't get involved.
wishjacked
I thought one of the recent scenes where Olga (I think it was Olga, I actually didn't reread this part recently haha) called the Dreamer Guard and they were completely uninterested until Sacred Heart was mentioned was........ an interesting scene
Emily Ree
:3 (it was Olga!)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Is there one of those in every city maybe? Could be a competition or something.
snuffysam
a competition to be ineffective?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hey theres been weirder competition
but yes that scene was telling. that the minute sacred heart is mentioning suddenly its interesting
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
A competition to spend the least or save the most money or something. All they've had to shell out for is the donuts.
Or maybe it's all a front for some secret stuff they're doing downstairs in the basement.
wishjacked
With every job that deals closely with life-threatening situations, there is TONS of red tape and a TONS of people who don't feel like risking their lives, and I guess I've just been reading the guard as an ineffectual system up til now. Honestly I haven't paid close attention to them
I really like their presence in the story-- it's very nice to see systems in place to deal specifically with the dreamers!! I think that they're an important part of the worldbuilding.
And in future rereads I guess I'll have to pay closer attention to their scenes. XD
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Can't the two groups just get along? (resumes shipping Miho and Tabbi)
wishjacked
HEY, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DREAMER GUARD, MATEO IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love him So Much
snuffysam
woof boy
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i would have just written off their ineffectualness as red tape if not for how they handled olga's call. like i understand emergency lines can get overwhelmed, but the fact that they answered with such disinterest concerned me. like as a dispatcher you do not handle people's problems that callously. that is how you get yelled at by managers.
snuffysam
to be fair, the dispatcher did give specific directions to call 911
also it's a dreamer holiday, so maybe a lot of the guard took the day off
wishjacked
I see any panel with Mateo in it and I think of that "I will protect it: strongly agree" meme
yes!! I found that bit pretty funny tbh
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
the dispatcher did but they also looked like someone who gave -100 cares. so i dont credit them that much.
mateo is precious
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I don't think I'm at that point yet. ^^;;
Just got through the little backstory between Tabbi and Koji in the hospital where he stops time. So sweet.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
That whole scene was ADORABLE
and again, the pacing in that was excellent. I really enjoy those little breather moments in this comic.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
so changing gears a bit cause i actually found a page that supports a theory i had. http://www.anarchydreamers.com/comic/page-114-2 i didnt read that convo close enough. what if the 6 are special because they already died before? and this dreamwalker thing is their 2nd revival which is what makes them special. and why the shooter was in tabbi's memory was trying to fully erase her existence. except the shooter expected her to full on die and not come back AGAIN
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Holy cats, that's an awesome theory.
Also may explain why they forgot more.
snuffysam
wait, but wouldn't other people have known they were dreamers beforehand?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe they weren't.
First death didn't take but they didn't become dreamwalkers either.
snuffysam
ah, i see
still, i feel like it would have been a known thing if they already died once
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Or it didn't manifest itself, maybe they still had to take pills? Dunno.
Maybe they died in a Nightmare.
I dunno, I just like Rebel's theory.
Maybe the TVs fit in too.
If you die on TV, you die in real life. No, wait.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah this page specifically mentions that if you die as a baby but are revived you dont get abilities because you have no personality
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Oh, huh, Rebel, good catch! That's an interesting theory
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
and i dont think itd be a known thing cause thats more a personal detail
like if i had died as a baby for a moment that would not be my conversation starter XD
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Didn't Tabbi say something about being the second twin and hence almost dying or something?
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I imagine Tadhg also suffered from it too
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Or maybe when you become a cheerleader, you're just born again.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Also: how is his name pronounced
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Tadhg.
snuffysam
theres a T sound somewhere
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Taigh, according to youtube
Emily Ree
Yes!
Old Irish name
Their older sister has an old Irish name too
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Like the Colonel from Battlestar Galactica?
Emily Ree
https://youtu.be/E-F6PrKqlws
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Incidentally, just in the closing minutes here, want to mention I was impressed by successful Kickstarters. That's a non-trivial amount of extra work.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hmmm interesting. also i feel bad for him. probably spends his life correcting ppl on how its pronounced
Emily Ree
;w;
snuffysam
and four of them, no less!
Emily Ree
The twins both have cat pun names. Tadhg sounds like the first part of "tiger" and Tabbi sounds like a tabby cat
And thank you!
I've had 5 now, with a 6th kickstarter launching on April 4th! ;w;
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe it's the source of his sadness. Mispronunciations.
Emily Ree
XD
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i hope your 6th kickstarter goes well~!
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Aye!
snuffysam
i'd stay in my room too if i knew people were going to mispronounce my name if i went out
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Also, if Tabbi's like a cat, I'm shipping her and Miho harder.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY END!
Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party time is now up~! Thank you everyone so much for reading and joining this week’s chat~! We want to give a special thank you to Emily Ree, as well, for making Anarchy Dreamers and volunteering it for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Emily Ree’s efforts however you’re able to. All that being said, if you would like to continue discussing this week’s comic, we highly encourage you to do so~!
For next week, Comic Tea Party will focus on Neon Rabbit by Jordyn DeJong (wakaxo). As always, please use the next several days to read as much of the comic as you would like. We hope to see you next Thursday on March 22nd from 5PM to 7PM PDT for the chat~! Until then, happy reading~! Comic: https://tapas.io/series/Neon-Rabbit
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THE PRIVATE LIFE IS DEAD: Long Live Karma... by heidi siegmund cuda, aka @maewestside
So there we were, Tigger and I, trying to find the South Pasadena chapter of Indvisible lol as we marched in the July 4th parade, and she’s giving me an earshot on political theory and trying to keep me focused on the narrow focus of the law and what it is you can prove. Well, to be specific. What Bob Mueller can prove.
Tigger being an aces attorney and veteran politico is the leader of our #truthsquad pack, which really isn’t a pack and has no leaders, but rather, a group of very smart women, and the men who fuel us with support and wisdom. We somehow all found each other getting truth out on twitter. And cuz it’s life during wartime, we became fast besties. With my #freepress goggle of media-chicanery expertise that can only come with 30 years of putting 80 pounds of shite into a ten pound bag, I seem to attract both left and right brainers, or as I like to think of them, a cosmic angel posse of renowned global experts on myriad subjects. We are all a bit mad, you know. Quite. We are putting country and love of humanity above everything else. 
Gee how I love these brainiacs who bravely get truth out on twitter hour after hour, day after day, complex stuff that we break down to brass tacks, a whodunit as told by global bravehearts. We’re exhausted, we do at great personal peril, but no sleep till Brooklyn as I always say. 
And the truth shall set we free and already is. Insert butterflies here.
IMPEACHMENT MARCH
What a simply perfect day. July 2. We were feeling im-peachy waltzing through the streets of #dtla with those thousands of kin who feel the smartest move at this juncture is for all those 70 percent of Americans who ain’t too keen on the Pageant Queen Regime to march on Washington and demand the Defenestration of Scamalot. Are we not Men? Are we not Women? Were there not dogs, babies and strollers all concurring: our country is sinking under the weight of thugs. And just cuz it’s a different kind of war… the dropping of cyberbombs in collusion with ma$$media running interference for lucre… doesn’t mean you can’t pay attention. 
Your personal data has been weaponized. 
We know that whenever there is intense mysery, a small few greedy fukcs are profiting. But this mawb bo$$ and his toadie$ take the cake, I mean, every move is right out of the #geezersplaybook. Erl.
I recommend rather than trying to follow the money to oil etal, just donate your car, and take public transit, bike, lyft or walk, work from home and help save the world from gangsta$ and thug$ out to create misery and profit off wars and such. Not to mention the clean air thing.
That’s how I got to the “Impeachment March” in #dtla, riding on the Metro and making friends with other do-gooders.
For more on that, our hero, Vlad. Gentle readers: please pay attention to your Romanian, Ukrainian, Russian, Hungarian and Bosnian friends. They will tell you about how rights are taken away incrementally so a small greedy few thug$ can profit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VUT-z9LbD8
TO RUSSIA WITH LOVE
Whenever a people are demonized, we must always clarify: It ain’t the people, it’s the leaders, the despots, the glory hunters, the power whores, the usual suspects who cause all that misery but look pretty on TV.
So because it’s been a minute since I read Pasternak and watched “Doctor Zhivago,” I figgered, “Better bone up on the Russian Revolution, agin.”
Plus it’s a good excuse to rekindle my love jones for Rod Steiger and Julie Christie, as well as the costumers and art directors for the David Lean epic. 
Here are the cliffies: 
“I wish they’d decide which gang of hooligans constitutes the government of this country!” 
That line uttered by a man, once rich then poor, who just wants to get on with the libretto. Ergo, it doesn’t matter if it’s pre-Revolutionary Russia or post-apocalyptic America, we all share the same frustration. And currently, our leaders $uck.
Another zinger:
“The private life is dead… history killed it…”
#word
We lost our private lives to data miner$, and we gave it away freely to take cutesy wootsy quizzes to figger out which ‘80s popstar is our spirit animal. This was valuable data in this election, our information now used to tell shady fukc$ how to market to us. 
In 2016, it was used to mislead us by creeper$ out for an #ROI, and they surely got it. We are currently fukced till impeachment of all creeper-a$$ociate$ of the mawb bo$$.
While the world is upended by misery and now those trying to do good are allowing rogue character$ to divide them, dirty deals are being done dirt cheap and as long as you keep watching Der Propaganda TV and take the Meds They Push to Keep You Watching, you might not know who dunnit.
But c’mon now, we know #scamalot is laden with felonious monsters, we have the court docs to prove it. We also know fraud occurred. We have the docs to prove that. But why run down the hill to eff the first cow? Why not just walk down, after assembling the puzzle of the Big Con, and take out all hundert or so?! 
Just pray Bob Mueller, within the letter of the law, can round up all the Horse$ Arse$ and get us some kind of justice.
Meanwhile, we in the Resistance will be marching and pushing #peoplepower cuz something’s gotta give.
DEFENESTRATION
Good thing, glory hunters are defenestrating themselves. And because the private life is dead, and because the internet killed it, why not take advantage of it till reparations and live by karma. All your deeds become you. So shed your baggage and step into the light. Let karma and truth be the stuff that guides you until we can lasso in all the Big Brother$.
YOUR POINT, THEIR VILLAGE
Sometimes Glory Hunters don’t care what village they burn to make their point, and during these cybertreasonous times, that should be of concern to all Americans.
If we can’t unite now after being played by a TV Carny with catchphrases, then this is no longer America.
NOBODY LOVES POETRY LIKE A RUSSIAN
Because I am concerned by the #goonsindrag who kiss the ar$e of the Popular Vote Loser so good they got cabinet post$, I am paying close attention to my friends from Moscow, Kiev, Bosnia, stories I’ve collected over the years that tell a more clearcut picture of what war looks like and how it’s played out in modern times. 
It starts with the silencing of truth. 
My friends from the Eastern Bloc consist of gals who came for modeling gigs that turned out not to be modeling gigs.
My friends from Eastern Bloc countries consist of tough beauties whose family members starved and died. They had no food. 
Check out my friend from Bosnia, and what she has to say about those who vote based on hate and greed:
https://twitter.com/foxycuda/status/825165047693316096
INDEPENDENCE DAY
Our #freepress #truthsquad #knowledgeswap posse has made so many friends in the past few days because people from throughout America and in countries #acrosstheuniverse know love when they feel it, namely love of country, love of humanity, a desire to do better. 
We’re just trying to pump information as quickly as we can. We broke the ol timey investigative model of waiting till sweeps to sell fear and loathing, and instead, we are the wind beneath each other’s wings, building a sturdy global bridge of worldwide expertise chiseling away bit by bit at fraud, at the Big Con.
PLOP QUIZ
So please give us your hungry, weary, truthseekers and we will do our best to comfort you with truth. The misery that is upon is merely the passing of greed… allow it to pass…
And a final word of caution friends: next time you get the opportunity to take an online personality quiz, think twice: the country you could be preserving just might be your own.
******
Author Heidi Siegmund Cuda is honored to be swimming in a twitter stream of do-gooders. Follow her at @foxycuda and she’ll connect you to a whipsmart crew making the world better, one tweet at a time.
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