#you coulda sent me this first rather than 4 hate anons but

[i-have-no-soul]

In his discussion with dream which tubbo arguments did you find really convincing? because I found it hard to agree with anything he brought up but I want to understand your point of view

It’s less what Tubbo said than what Dream did. I find it interesting how he gish galloped around the topic of him calling multiple women whores, with an ‘apology’ that boiled down to “I’m sorry you felt that way”

Also found it interesting how flippantly he treated the very serious accusation he was leveling against Tommy for child labor. which… 1.) under the system of capitalism there’s gonna be some blood somewhere down the chain if you look hard enough. this is not a defense this is just the way the world works. and 2.) if i thought my opponent was using child labor i wouldn’t make it a joke. Also the fact that the factory was based in China/The East therefore it must use child labor is… Interesting.

He never addressed what I consider to be the most telling accusation, that he allowed for a condition in which minors were exposed to pornography in his discord server. I’ve explained before why I feel this to be so damning.

Lastly, watching Tubbo’s vods, you can see first hand how he cuts and pastes different things out of context to make his argument look better. One of the screenshots he used to make the argument that Tommy was underpaying his editors has “he didnt tho” literally one message later. If he knowingly lied about this, what else is he lying about?