#you cant compare them its apple's to orange's they're completely different situations

[batcavescolony]

Ok I'm gonna say something and I don't want it misconstrued. I'm all with you for hating how wlw relationships are handled or hell just how women are handled in the MCU. I love that Agatha is a lesbian in the MCU(cus she is), I'm hoping Viv Vision is wlw if they bring her in, I wish America was explicitly a lesbian. But also these characters don't exist in a void, and have existed decades before the MCU was even thought of. I think pitting Agatha vs Billy's reception by fans isn't a good comparison. no one is debating if Billy Kaplan is gay or bi because it's already done for us. In Young Avengers comics from the early 00s he comes out to his parents, he then goes on to say he's gay, and his wedding with Teddy Altman was a huge deal in comics. Agatha Harkness isn't queer in the comics so we don't have that framework look back at. Again Agatha is a lesbian to me, her bracelet was lesbian colors, and I'm all for critiquing the MCUs queer rep but it's not a fair comparison to go 'Billy Kaplan isn't getting this treatment' cus Billy Kaplan has been an established Gay character for going on 20 years, while Agatha hasn't.

I find it interesting that no one question that Billy is gay. He's only shown having a male love interest so it's a fair assumption. Trying to give him a female love interest would (rightfully) be considered homophobic. But when Agatha was only shown having a female love interest or having an interest in women, calling her a lesbian and not wanting her to be given a male love interest is considered "biphobic". The double standard between female and male characters who are only shown in same-sex relationships is interesting. One is automatically seen as gay, while the other "might be bi". Why the double standard, I wonder?

ps: I feel the need to precise that I'm pansexual. I love bi/pan representation in media. This post is not about characters that are canonically bi/pan. This is more about how most people have no issue calling Billy gay while calling Agatha a lesbian has caused some discourse lately.

ps 2: Agatha is a lesbian

[itmightbeneb]

X you cant compare streamers fandom with a book fandom. Ofcourse books take time. You cant put the same leeway on streamers, should they be free to stream once every 10-20 months? Its like comparing apples and oranges

especially people who are in a streamer fandom are used to getting streams daily/weekly, and then suddenly nothing for 6 months is not acceptable, if the way people pay them is monthly subscriptions (subbing on twitch)

You're right anon it IS different from a boon fandom, where the book has a whole team (author, editor, publicist, marketing team, etc) to make it come out on time, and managers at almost every level reminding their workers of their allowed days off work (that reminds me I need to book more days off, my manager has been reminding me)

oh and also sick leave policy, and people there to make sure you don't work while ill (as dream has been a lot recently)

You're used to getting daily streams? Well so am I, not from Dream, or any of dteam for that matter, but from certain non mcyt streamers I am used to always getting a stream. And guess what happens when they inevitably take a break (because they are a human being and not a content machine, who will need breaks occasionally)?

I'm like yeah that makes sense, they've been giving me a lot recently and they deserve a break.

am I sad about it? obviously! months with no content! but am I gonna throw a fit? also no

When a streamer is ill (cough cough dream) or doesn't have the means to stream (again... dream, and also George and Sapnap) or has some mitigating circumstances (just moved to a new country, is able to go outside for the first time in 3 years, is the best friend and housemate of the two people just meantioned) I'm not even thinking about how sad it is I'm not getting content, I look at the situation. I look at what's happening, look dear anon, they're only just getting their Internet fixed how did you want them to stream?

streaming is work. it's their job. they are entitled to take time off, stream as few hours as they want, quit entirely if they want to, and we are not entitled to any more than they are willing to give us

you are not entitled to someone else's labour just because you like their content

and what about subscriptions? yeah don't sub if you don't think you're getting your moneys worth. nobody is forcing you to sub, and the brilliant thing about streaming/yt is that it's not only possible, but completely ethical to watch their content without paying anything at all

your little badge of how many months in a row you've been subbed is not more important than a streamers right to rest, to leave, to quit entirely if they want to. you are not entitled to any more than what you're paying for (ad free viewing for when they do go live, your sub badge, your emotes)

overall, stop being a Karen, recognise worker rights, and join your union :)