#you cannot be glamorizing the vikings so much in your head that you can't hear direct criticism of them when it happens
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blorbosexterminator · 1 year ago
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For all there is negative to say about the spin-off and Berlin I at least have the comfort to know that Pina would never mischaracterize and misrepresent Berlin as the fandom did when everyone just decided to shut their eyes and ears in the Viking Gold scene and instead assumed the exact opposite of what happened. Just completely ignoring what Andrés literally said in the scene so just they would have a "at core Martín and Berlin are actually the opposite uwu and Martin is so much better" when the scenes were literal direct parallels of each other and where Andrés and Martín said the exact same things just about different cultures and different groups of people
#i'm awake at night thinking about this shit every night#there's a lot of blatand mischaracterization of both characters in this fandom that annoy me to no end#but literally nothing infuriates me as much as this#just the inability to hear the clear simple words he said out loud in the clearest terms possible just to prove that somehow Martín#is better than him at heart#it's so annoying#Andrés LITERALLY in the scene criticizes the vikings for pillaging iconic art pieces from other cultures and melting it to make their own#shit; which he doesn’t think of as art just because it's old#this is a direct parallel to Martín's “the Spanish stole it from South American indigenous tribes” not an apposite wtf#in WHAT WORLD do you think anyone would compare the vikings to south american indigenous tribes???#There are some things Andrés is worse about than Martin and vice versa#this is NOT one of them#literally both of them showed the same position???#you cannot be glamorizing the vikings so much in your head that you can't hear direct criticism of them when it happens#it wasn’t even subtle#how could anyone mishear this#Martin didn’t want to steal it (which makes no sense in its own right) because it's ancient art that belongs to those tribes (Spain had it#so again makes no sense. but anyway)#Andres wanted to steal the vikings gold because he didn’t think it was art and it was made by melting actual ancient art pieces#that belonged to the greeks and romans and Phoenicians and he didn’t think the 'wine goblets and plates' the vikings made with their#their pillaged gold was worth being in a muesum#thats literally his own words to Rafael#how does that make him worse than Martín. sure no one views the greeks and romans etc as victims the same way those tribes were#but the point still stands that they WERE pillaged of the artwork they made#literally absolutely nothing bothers me more than the interpretation of this scene#i don't care about both scenes in their own right but the shook I went through when I read what people on here thought. man
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