#you can throw a bomb on vatican city (and I will support you) but true change in this aspect
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it's interesting to always read about american evangelical protestantism as the reason why so many people base their worldview on the fact that suffering is a moral necessity because... catholicism is the same. I grew up up in a staunchly atheist household but I unwittingly absorbed these same ideas from the ambient noise of default catholicism around me. I may be wrong but I think this is just a christian thing actually
#sidenote i had this discussion last christmas with a friend#that was convinced there were like. aspects of 'traditional beliefs' that were older than catholicism#and so could be thought of separate. I disagreed!#there's nothing about our particular way of living that's not been molded by catholicism#nothing would have survived unscathed after two thousand years of this shit#you can throw a bomb on vatican city (and I will support you) but true change in this aspect#will never come from finding 'roots unmarred by christianity' because I don't think those exist anymore#not speaking about 'all italians' or anything there's many people who aren't catholic#just. you know. the idea that some superstition are 'older' than catholicism (maybe! but they've been absorbed into it seamlessly!)
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