#yes you have to go back to like the 1300s to establish the connection. i don't care. family on family fight

[readingloveswounds]

From the Paix de Longjumeau, Edit de Paris (1568), Article 5

Et affin qu’il ne soyt doubté de la droicte intention de nostred. cousin le prince de Condé, avons dict et declairé, disons et declairons que nous tenons et reputons icelluy nostred. cousin pour nostre bon parent, fidelle subject et serviteur, comme de mesmes nous tenons tous les seigneurs, chevaliers, gentilzhommes et autres habitans des villes, communaultez, bourgades et autres lieux de nostred. royaume, pays et obeïssance qui l’ont suivy, secouru et accompaigné en ceste presente guerre et durant ces tumultes, en quelque part que ce soyt de ced. royaume, pour noz bons et loyaulx subjectz et serviteurs.

English:

And so that there are no doubts concerning the status of our aforementioned cousin the Prince of Condé, we have said and declared, we say and declare that we hold and repute this one our aforementioned cousin for our good family member, loyal subject and servant, as in the same way we hold all lords, knights, minor nobles, and other inhabitants of cities, communities, villages and other places of our aforementioned kingdom, country and obedience who followed, helped, and aided in this present war and during these troubles, in whatever part of the aforementioned kingdom may be, for our good and loyal subjects and servants

The translation is lazy but there's just something so clenches fist about the way one restitutes first a 'cousin' (Condé and Charles IX were indeed very vaguely related) and then a citizenry after a civil war.

[flamebringer0]

About Hivewings

My husband was posting WOF headcanons so I will try posting one too. Why are Hivewings so weird? Here is what I think.

“Yes, of course,” Lady Scarab snapped. “Maybe they weren’t called SilkWings back then. ShimmerWings or Flibbertigibbets or something in the old language, I don’t know. But Clearsight married one, and then another one when the first one died, and had an alarming number of dragonets with each one, and then their dragonets and their dragonets’ dragonets kept going, marrying Ye Olde SilkWings or what have you, until there was enough of them to be considered their own tribe. HiveWings. Stupid menacing name, if you ask me. It was only about five hundred years ago that we officially split into two separate tribes, you know. My charming great-great-grandmother was the queen who ordered no more mingling of the bloodlines. She was a nightmare.”

This is where Hivewings allegedly come from, but it doesn't really make any sense to assume this actually happened the way she describes it. Clearsight came to Pantala around the year 3000, and the Hivewings as a separate tribe apparently came into existence around the year 4500. That means there must have been ~1500 years in which the Beetlewings (the actual name of the "ye olde Silkwings") existed as a single breeding population with her genes in it. It hardly seems possible that by the year 4500 there could be one subset of the Beetlewing population that was descended from Clearsight and another that wasn't.

As you trace a subject's family tree back, the number of ancestors doubles in each generation: two parents, four grandparents, eight great grandparents, etc. Eventually you reach a point in time where the subject should apparently have more ancestors than the total number of living people. This discrepancy is explained by individual ancestors occupying more than one position in the subject's pedigree, which is known as pedigree collapse. This has some counterintuitive implications, like the fact that in the real world, every living human of European ancestry is descended from Charlemagne, and also from every other European who lived before the 10th century and has any modern descendants at all.

If we compare the situation with Clearsight to the situation with Charlemagne, most of the variables seem to point to this effect being even more pronounced in her case. Dragons have shorter generation times than humans (Fathom was a father at 11), she lived ~1500 years before the present as opposed to ~1300, and the population of Pantala seems to be much smaller than the population of Europe. So I find it highly unlikely that there are any Pantalans at all who aren't descended from Clearsight.

What seems more reasonable to me is that Clearsight made some small genetic contribution to every Beetlewing living in 4500, and the conception of the Hivewings specifically as her true heirs is just propaganda. What I imagine is that the Beetlewings of 4500 had developed the folk belief that dragons with more black in their scales had a closer connection to Clearsight, who was essentially deified at that point. This belief was completely wrong. Beetlewings had always come in many different colors and patterns, with and without black, and by 4500 essentially nobody was more or less related to Clearsight than anyone else. But if you have the ambition to found a tribe, none of that really matters; what matters is how well you can tell a story. It turned out that the first queen of the Hivewings told the "dragons with black scales are the true heirs of Clearsight" story well enough to split away from the Beetlewings and create a new tribe. It might also be that there was already an established tendency in 4500 for black Beetlewings to breed among themselves to try and conserve their imagined connection to Clearsight, which would only have made it easier to formally split the tribe.

Of course when the Hivewings and the Silkwings first became established as separate tribes, there wouldn't really have been any difference between them, genetically. But over the course of 500 years, Silkwings with black in their scales and Hivewings without would tend to leave the tribes they hatched in and settle down in the other. Over time, this had the effect that the two groups really did become differentiated by the presence or absence of black scales, and by the present it has become very rare for a Silkwing with black scales or a Hivewing without to hatch at all.

The other differences between the two tribes could perhaps be explained by genetic linkage, although i guess it might be a stretch to assume that real world genetics apply to WOF dragons to that degree. Most of what i've said so far, i feel like it follows naturally from things that are actually attested about the setting, but maybe it's silly to say "yeah dragons definitely have chromosomes and their genes are laid out linearly so black scales can be tied to apparently unrelated features like not having antennae". I'm just saying it's possible.

Another weird thing about Hivewings is that they seem to have way too many random powers. In most of the tribes there are only like one or two powers that only some individuals have, and they are rare. Mudwings have a few fireproof dragons, Skywings have a few firescales, Nightwings have a few psychics. But Hivewings have stingers in their tails, poison fangs, boiling acid attacks, and probably other things I don't even know about. And it seems like these features are relatively common in the population, but not universal. Why is the distribution so weird?

What I think is, hatching with random features like this is something that happens in every tribe, it's just usually very rare, and the tribes all react differently. If a Rainwing hatches with a sting in their tail, everyone says "oh, funny, you must have a Sandwing ancestor somewhere", and that's the end of it. If a Skywing hatches with a sting in their tail, their parents probably rip it off so they won't be ordered to kill their dragonet. And if a Hivewing hatches with a sting in their tail, they get black-bagged and sent off to a government breeding facility to try to increase the prevalence of tail stingers in the population.

Like the Hivewings practicing eugenics is more or less canon, right? They force Silkwings to breed at the whims of the queen to acquire more flamesilks, so it's not that hard for me to imagine they do it to their own tribe as well. Honestly when I was first reading arc 3 I felt like this one must be canon, because the strangeness of the Hivewings having so many more powers than every other tribe felt really significant to me. Nothing about it ever came up, and I'm left to assume that the canon explanation is really meant to be "no, they're just like that for some reason". But I think this makes sense and is in line with the nasty authoritarian nature of Hivewing society.

[rayyan-fatayerdji]

@inuyasha-amv @danddamage @the-home-kvetch since op so kindly barred me from replying to their post ill reply to yall here i guess.

Yes it is I, the Palestinian antisemite who picks on poor lil israel because ion like Jewish ppl, not because of what israel has done and continues to do every day to my people. Thought it might have been rather obvious or at least smt to consider with a name like that lol. Anyway, i honestly do not understand why you try to turn my critic of the settlerstate israel into me picking in Jewish ppl. Or rather I understand it, but want to emphasize to you how fkn stupid this move is. Palestinians take great care to distinguish between Zionist, israelis and Jewish ppl, bc surpriseee they cant be used interchangebly. And we do so to for several reasons, one is to not allow the false narrative of a religious conflict to persist and the other is bc we kinda dont want to give fascists talking points by using Jewish carelessly and interchangebly with zionist or israeli, thus allowing them to point to our cause as a prove for their hatred against Jewish ppl and say " See? We were right to hate them all along!" Also as a minority you are probably aware of the racist implications of seeing a group of people as a homogenous mass that all have the same political views, ways of life etc. etc. So it is really bewildering to me that you would put yourselves (if you are Jewish) or Jewish ppl in this position where they are not individuals who all can have different opinions. Makes no sense to me to complain about people who make all Jewish folks responsible for israels crimes (which is actually antisemitic) and then basically to the same thing when someone critiques israel. Doublestandards, backing racist talking points and shooting your own foot i guess. So, now thats out of the way, Id really appreciate you apologizing for your false antisemitism accusations against me (i truly got enough of them from white Germans who try to make up for their ancestors crimes by being racist to Palestinians😊✌🏽), and also reflect on the fact that by stating false claims like these you are engaging in zionist silencing practices. To go back to one of your initial questions about "why always picking on israel :(?" I raise the counterquestion of why israel has been """picking"""" on my people for the last 70+ years, making it their pronounced goal again and again to erradicate all traces of our history, culture and presence, and to comitt at least one human rights violation a day. This Haaretz article about the events of just last friday might shed some light on "why always israel"

As for @the-home-kvetch that part about Jewish people not being able to be settlers bc of their historical connection to the land of Palestine was a rather weak attempt at an argument if you ask me. I implore you to read the following article to see why this "argument" is utter bs. Also putting a quote from it here:

"The ethnic cleansing, massacres and colonialism needed to establish Israel can never be justified, regardless of who was there first. It’s a moot point. Even if we follow the argument that Palestinians have only been there for 1300 years, does this suddenly legitimize the expulsion of hundreds of thousands? Of course not. There is no possible scenario where it is excusable to ethnically cleanse a people and colonize their lands. Human rights apply to people universally, regardless of whether they have lived in an area for a year or ten thousand years."

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[iikiryou]

i’m angry all over again over the same petty thing

i want her to just stop touching my phone. it’s not her property. if she wants to use a phone so badly, she can use the one i gave her daughter. she can use the laptop i gave her. i will not let her use my phone anymore. not on a weekend as important as that. i told her i needed it between 6-7pm. she apparently got back “just as soon as i left” WHICH WAS LIKE AT 7:35PM

she said to wait for her but god damn i had no wait to confirm whether or not she was nearby because she hasn’t paid my phone bill after two or three months, despite me letting her use it for several months because she was without her own fucking phone (my phone bill is only $40 god fucking damn if only she was stop wasting it on pointless fucking toys her kids don’t care about) and she has an ATROCIOUS history of being late or completely missing meet ups and appointments due to atrocious memory and inability to pay attention to time. plus she’s not a responsible buyer because she thinks too much on how little she’s spending buy buying cheap items but never realizing that she’s buying A LOT of small items. and she buys groceries and gets gas at the corner store closest to us because it’s a convenient distance at the expense of WAY TOO FUCKING MUCH BECAUSE SHE’S FUCKING LAZY AND IMPATIENT

I HATE HER SPENDING HABITS I HATE THEM I HATE THEM I HATE THEM I HATE THEM I HATE THEM I HATE THEM

I FEEL LIKE I’M TAKING THE HIT FOR THEM BECAUSE SHE OWES ME. SHE OWES ME SO FUCKING MUCH. I FEEL LIKE I’M NEVER GOING TO GET THAT MONEY BACK BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO SPEND. I FEEL LIKE I THREW LIKE $2000 ONTO HER (in which $1300 or $1400 i’m probably only ever going to get back) BECAUSE!!! SHE NEVER HAS MONEY!!!

i don’t want to associate with her anymore i don’t want to waste any more fucking time with her she disgusts me. her lifestyle disgusts me. her stubbornness disgusts me. the way she raises her children disgusts me. her friends disgust me. these people i have to live around 24/7 because of her disgusts me. i want out of it. this decision to live with her instead of my dad because he’s a neglectful, manipulative, stubborn, delusional, disgusting ass was a bad decision. but she’s worse. she’s sooo much worse. i worry for her kids. i wish her kids had different parents tbh. she asked me to make sure her kids didn’t go to their dads’ custody once she died and? um? bitch? i’m only 19 and i’m not raising your fucking kids for you fuck you i didn’t sign up for that life? i don’t even want kids? your kids are cute but holy fuck are they annoying. too much time and dedication and i barely have the motivation to help myself or my bestest friend. i’m too selfish for that. i don’t have enough of the fucking ability to FUCKING CARE.

i just hate her i hate my sister i hate my sister i hate my sister i hate my sister i resent her so much i feel like i have no control in my life. i feel like i had even less control than i did before.

before my depression was rooted in my failure, due to my inability to accomplish anything in college and general anxiety stopping me from progressing. now my depression is rooted in my lack of a future because i feel like she puts a stopped in my ability to do things. i feel like she’ll hold me back. that she’ll be a set back. that she’ll drag me along into her little game. move to oregon? pah! i’m not like her at all.

i don’t make friends like she does. if i move down to oregon i’d die. i don’t bond with family well because i’m picky about people, unlike her i guess. i’m too awkward to try to bond with family. i’ve never learned to to establish a connection with family and cherish it, love it, appreciate it.

i tried and now it’s only brought me anger in frustration, and i only want to isolate myself more and more.

my only good friends live in within driving distance, here in washington. once i separate from them and limit contact with them via online messaging, that’ll be the end of it. i’ll slowly feel ostracize myself because i’ll feel out of place, i’ll feel as if i can no longer connect with them because i know my actions are more interesting than my words to them and our shared interests are so limited that i can’t use that to bond us. even then, that sort of thing would be super awkward because that’s never quite how we kept our friendships. i would lose them due to my own incompetence. i’ve done it before. i’ll do it again. when we move i won’t be in school anymore and making friends will be impossible. i’ll become a hermit. i’ll keep to my room so much i’ll spiral into a deeper depression and probably kill myself. i want to kill myself right now over this pretty fucking anger. i hate this. i hate her.

hello midnight depression. i’m sorry anger brought you here tonight. i want to hur myself for even feeling this unsavory anger but i feel as if i can’t because noah is beside me. they’re too good of a friend for me to do that in their presence. plus writing all this out is making me feel a bit better i guess.

i’m not even that angry. not shaking, not crying. my throat is tight - but the thing is i don’t get angry often. i’ve felt frustrated, on occasions (especially with my younger brother), but i never really got angry with him often. i’ve gotten angry with my dad once, visibly, but god my anger with my sister is so persistent and consistent. i never wished so dearly to tear myself away from someone. i want to rip her out of my life like a leech. sometimes i do really wish she would die.

other times i wish i could just separate myself from this family. mom and dad won’t have to fret about me since i’m just a stubborn, irresponsible rat. i don’t have to associate with my shitty siblings anymore. relying on any of them really ought to be the worst idea on this fucking planet. i was a fool to think my sister had any competence. she may be insecure but she talks with a lot of fucking confidence in the absolute wrong places. other than that the rest of my fucking family barely knows that i exist BECAUSE I BARELY EVER GOT THE CHANCE TO MEET THEM AND LEARN ABOUT THEM OR GROW UP WITH THEM BECAUSE MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY (primarily my parents) ARE ALL STUBBORN, SELFISH ASSHOLES

i don’t want to be here. end game it’d be easiest if i disappeared. there’s only like two and a half people i actually care about right now, and are probably the reasons i’m alive now, particularly because of one.

or if i didn’t have them, i probably would have found another out of desperation - out of the need to find someone to confide into and therefore becoming close to them. end up just like amanda, aj and michaela. and whoever else thought i was trustworthy.

please just let me kill myself. sometimes i wish they’d let me go so i can finally lose those final strands of purpose and have a reason to shamelessly end my life. i could act like an asshole and drive them away, whereas to one i point out my flaws in hopes that they’ll notice and realize how awful i really am. i want to die. i want to die. i want to die.

i’ve contemplated a suicide pact, and told them about it, only because i know they’re suicidal too and i rely on them so much that if they were to say yes i’d probably go through with it.

but they didn’t. instead i’m the reason they’re alive and they’re using that as an excuse to keep persisting.

and it kind of frustrates me, for some reason, knowing that they care so much. i don’t know why that is.