#yall are pretending hes allo

[cepheusgalaxy]

Ok, fandom stuff below. Hazbin Hotel, Alastor, wadda wadda, skip if you don't wanna see it

Listen. I've seen many people complain about how the fandom is shipping Alastor with other characters, and while we were already expecting it (it's what fandom does), this side of the conversation os extremely frustrated, because it overlooks his whole aroace identity

On the other side, aspec people are also mad because of the former group. Asexuality and aromanticism are a spectrum, and aspecs can and do date.

I particularly stand with the first group, although I do understand where the second is coming from.

Cupioaro ace talking here: The closest interpretation of canon is that Alastor is ace, not very touchy, and not interested in romance at all. Another common one is that he is a sex and romance repulsed aroace. But that doesn't mean much in the fandom. That's why headcanons exist. That's why fanfic exists.

And look. One of the interpretations is that he is the repulsed end of the spectrum. But others are that he is not that repulsed at all. That's not wrong. You can ship him.

What you can't do, and I'll die mad at this hill, is completely ignore or conveninently let aside his identity. That's erasure.

Aro people date differently. Ace people date differently. Aroace people love differently. Don't you forget that. Aspec people experience atraction differently, when we do. Don't you forget that. Alastor isn't allo

Do your homework. Then ship him or whatever

[scholar-of-yemdresh]

Hey Fandom What the H*ck

Im not the only one who's noticed fandom's tendency to discard actual representation in favour of fan ships and headcannons. It's beyond frustrating we clamour& beg so hard for representation and when we finally get it? Pushed to the way side. It's not even that's complementary to the canon rep, it substitutes it. An example in terms of race; The BatFamily y'all are so keen on drawing/writing east asian! Stephanie Brown and Black!Jason Todd... while conveniently frogeting Cassandra Cain and Duke Thomas exist. You are also aware Dick Grayson isn't white? Same goes for Damien no matter how much DC whitewashes them. You don't have to racebend your white favs there's already POC rep in the bat fam you dont need to pretend they don't exist.

Now queer rep. This is even worse. When we get unambiguous queer characters and relationships aaaand Fandom is shipping the two (unambiguously) straight guys(/girls) together and creating more content of that because of course. Oh Cool beans trans characters!... oh yall just going to headcannon 100% CisDude Daniel as trans and hyperfocus on that and throw actual Transguy Tristan under the bus? Cool cool. Hey (non romo)asexual characters sweet! Oh lord you're discarding their orientation,shipping them, producing smut of them, and after doing that the 100% allo character is HC as ace. Lovely.

Diverse Media: Look at all this positive representation we got unambiguous Ls Gs Bs Ts As Qs Ps etc. They are well written treated with respect and theyve got MAGICAL POWERS!!! Pretty cool huh?

Fandom: that's nice but we'll just fanon the cishet characters as queer and push the actual queer ones to the side. UwU

And no I'm not condemning racebending or queer ships/headcanons. Especially when it's for some of the most Cis straight white media *coughHarryPottercough*. Have at it, make your pansexual genderfluid demigirl Ron Weasle to your heart's content. It's just annoying , where wider fandom insists on staning/propping up fanon rep and ignoring canon representation. Never acknowledging it[representation] beyond some news articles and a handful of fanwork.

And you can give all the reasons for why the ship with the two DEFINITELY straight guys is more popular than the canon gay couple. E.g. knowing more about aforementioned str8 dudes, the book/show/movie focusing more on the straights etc. And to that i say "McHanzo" it's worse than them not having chemistry they haven't fucking interacted in the Lore. The only reason we know they know each other exist is one or two voicelines say basically " He a pretty okay dude" that's IT. So dont give me your weak excuses when the (arguably) premiere ship of Overwatch is two possibly straight guys who've NEVER interacted with each other.

And at this point i have to ask do any of you care. You know beyond woke points. Beyond just saying you stan a Diverse/inclusive piece of media? Because it looks like you want to go back to the cis straight white everything. Why should creators even bother adding actual diversity to their work. After all you can just subsist on headcannons and leave it at that.

This whole rant was brought on by my frustration with a particular fandom where there's a canon gay couple but their content is miniscule compared to the gay ship involving two(probably) straights.

[redrobemerle]

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let me be uncomfortable with people shipping the toy soldier.

im not saying people cant ship the TS, im just saying some people need to stop acting as if everyone whos uncomfortable w doing so is infantalizing it.

(before i go any further, im autistic, ace, and aro-spec. i have as much of a right to project as allo autistic people dont try to tell me im infantalizing a character i project onto)

i understand why people get that impression, especially when i have seen a lot of infantalization of the TS-- i will never forget the time i heard someone describe it as being “like the Mechs’ kid”. i was Very Uncomfortable with that for a number of reasons but the main one should be obvious.

anyway. yes! the TS was in love before! that is canon! so you may ask why im still like “pls warn me so i can dip out before talking about shipping TS specifically”

well you see! the whole incident with the Angel is from before TS fought alongside the Rose Reds! if you remember tSotTS, which im assuing yall do since youre bringing up the fact it was in love before, you should remember the toy soldier got broken, then repaired by corpse looters antique store owners!

and id like to bring up a few lines in particular:

“On the surface he looked as good as new, but something remained lost.”

“That night, the Soldier was happy for the first time in a very long while. For, though his body was mended, his heart remembered nothing. All feeling was gone. It felt fantastic.”

now im not gonna get into the implications of a character being aroace because they were “broken”, but im going to assume that since theres at least one member of the band who’s aro and at least one whos ace, there was probably a conversation had to make sure this wasnt Bad

but yeah so im pretty sure post-reparation the TS is aroace! and that is a perfectly valid interpretation of the text please stop pretending everyone whos uncomfy with it being shipped is uncomfy because they dont like shipping the character who could very easily be seen as autistic-coded im begging you

let aro(/spec) ace people be uncomfy with aroace-coded characters being shipped.