#wyldfyre is the only one who has parents that we really get to see who aren't shitty
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ninja-confession-go · 2 days ago
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Long rant about Jay (not a hate rant quite the opposite actually)
I hate that they got rid of Jay's mechanic/inventor traits as time went on. And instead of just bringing those traits back they keep introducing characters to fill In that role.
Like Im sorry but why are 3 of the 4 gals apart of the main group into mechanics or deals with tech in someway??? Why is Wyldfyre the only gal who doesn't have an interest In tech????
Nya, Sora and Pixal all fulfill essentially the same tech role and while that's fine as they can easily fulfill different aspects, my issue is WHY NOT BRING JAY'S SKILLS BACK THEN?
They r clearly not afraid of multiple characters fulfilling similar roles so why was Jay the only one who's mechanic skills were stripped away?
Like his skills were so important in the earlier seasons he helped out so much and even got the bounty for fuckin fly?? Like his skills in machinery was also a reason why wu chose him too so to strip that away just makes no sense?
Like I'll forever be salty about this, his intelligence in machinery was so interesting to see especially when u consider the comedic kinda of character he's supposed to be. They could easily made him the mad scientist type of inventor/mechanic but they just hate fun and whimsy and would rather he be just comedic relief and nothing else I guess.
THATS ANOTHER THING
I hate how they treated Jay like he was stupid in later seasons too. They really dumbed him down instead of being the smart comedic relief he's the dumb comedic relief and I HATE it. bro literally deals with mechanics and made shit from scraps if there is one thing he ISNT, is stupid.
Like if they had just made him, let's say not emotionally intelligent i could understand. This is my own personal headcanons coming through, but i don't think he was around many other humans aside from his parents and occasional mail man growing up, and while i dont think he means to come off as a jerk, he tends to say shit without thinking it through as we have seen ALOT and that could be chalked up to him dealing more with machines than people. So If they had just focues on his lack of emotional intelligence, THAT I could understand and would have been fine with. Obviously this is more my own headcanon coming through but u get the idea
But they just made him more all around stupid and I just find that so hard to believe.
I hate how none of Jay's backstory has been explored too.
They introduced a mind shattering revelation that Jay's adopted and proceeded to do...nothing with it.
WHYYYYY???
It would have been so cool to explore that but no, it gets no mention or focus at all aside from that random coversation betwen Unagami and Jay in the season that absolutely should have been a Jay season but for some reason wasn't. Like why bring it up then lol
I also hate that all of Jay's conflicts tend to involve Nya. Like I know they yin/yang but cmon bro, not every conflict Jay goes through has to focus on his relationship with Nya. Let this man get SOME interesting characterization that isn't based around Nya CMON
I saw a few posts on here talking about Jay's characterization and I just had to jump In with my two cents cuz it's crazy how they brutalized him in later seasons. The Fandom tries their hardest to keep the mechanic aspect of Jay alive and I appreciate that so much cuz it's a crime they got rid(or forgot or whatever) of it later on
If u can't tell I'm a Jay fan who's mad their fav was done SO dirty LOL
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saline-coelacanth · 1 year ago
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I was randomly thinking about the ninja's parents earlier and now I wanna make a poll
I put them into pairs instead of as individuals because idk I felt like it I guess
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agenericplaceholdername · 2 months ago
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Dragons Rising E16-20 Thoughts
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Here’s some thoughts on the final episodes of Dragons Rising, Season 1:
Land of Lost Things:
So how’d the Dragon Core end up in the Land of Lost Things? Nya says, “Someone lost it” but who?
The Land of Lost Things in this ep is permanently at sunset/rise and looks beautiful
The land itself is screaming? Seems kinda important
Couldn’t Geo just fuse the Hoarder to the ground
Bonzle! Never expected how much they’d do with her after this ep
Sora ngl powering a machine off of another person’s energy does sound like Imperium
Who built this machine anyway
Poor Geo :( 
Cole is just so lost lol. “What Empress?!”
Okay but he’s also super cool
“Bones. Extremely useful.”
“Broken things can be repaired, and made stronger!” Thanks Geo - not only is your relationship w/ Cole super cute but you’ve helped Sora
Dr. LaRow is exactly the type of person who would “erm actually” an insult
IT FORMED A HEART
Wow it’s a cute blue blob
Wyldfyre growth
Very good episode - Cole is characterized great, Geo is fun, we get both Sora and Wyldfyre growth, the Land of Lost Things is beautiful. Certainly could go into more detail but these bullets are just what I think as I watch, not in depth analysis
The Administration:
Arin nearly hits Lloyd in the face with his grappling hook
I wish I had a line to wait in
The Kai and Wyldfyre stuff this episode is great for both characters
The Administration as an agency is so fascinating. Reminds me of the TVA from Loki
“We have to fill out ‘Tricked by fake forms’ forms first”
Blue Frohicky
Is that a new species? The guys who look like Munce? Or are they Munce?
Zane says that the Administration has no real authority, which is true, but it’s also the case that their teleportation technology is very powerful
The Administrator… hmmm
“The lands formerly known as the Cursed Realm” so the body of the Preeminent in Hollow’s Trench? The soul of the Preeminent in the Departed Realm? Something else?
JAY!
Of course the Administration had a car specifically designed around Zane (I choose to believe this was Zane’s car at one point and the Administration confiscated it)
So what else qualifies as a Class B artifact? Is there a hierarchy — would Class A be something like the Golden Armor?
And of course the Administration has a mech designed for Arin and Lloyd
Love the Zane death note scene. “You’re a form genius.”
Really fun episode on the Administration side, and heartfelt one on the Kai & Wyldfyre side
Absolute Power:
I wonder if Ras got revenge on those guards later
Ras has seen a Source Dragon with his own eyes…hmmm
Interesting choice to make Levo a jerk. It makes sense why Beatrix would be so resentful
Beatrix using adults in green suits to represent children I can’t even
This fake dragon core thing is slightly confusing but pretty understandable once explained
“Sora’s Armor for Geo” is a great soundtrack
“[Time] is running out everywhere” because the ground is screaming. Cole what are you talking about? Your journey here is still unaddressed, at least a year in universe later
This Nya Cole exchange is really nice
Was Beatrix just waiting under the Throne Room for them to arrive?
“Obviously they have different energies, they’re different Cores” it’s funny that the sets color the cores differently, but in show they’re all identical lol
Bye Rapton
Excellent manipulation by Ras, but the following scene in prison shows Ras’ fatal flaw: he thinks he’s smarter than everyone else, so he can’t see that Beatrix has (or at least thinks she has) grown beyond him
Love the Imperium coup scene
The hoverboard one take is also great
One of the Imperium Teen Protection/Resistance Force members has changed
LaRow finally grows a spine— only for Jordana to fill in!
We Are All Dragons:
So Percival didn’t know Arin’s name— but did he still think he was a doctor?
“I forgot there’s two of them now” Kai and Wyldfyre work so well together
“There’s no talking to [my parents]” we’ll see about that Sora
Genuinely curious what Arin thinks about the fact that Wyldfyre thinks her powers make her superior 
Nya that joke was “Mediocre-at-best”
Hey it’s the dumpster Arin hid Riyu in
Why did Beatrix film herself admitting her lies
“I’ve always got your back, Sora” thanks Arin, good to know for reference
NO JIRO!!!! (yeah he’s fine but the implication)
The return of Melvin, the greatest Imperium guard
Yet another perfect Kai and Wyldfyre scene. Not the shoulder pad storage!
Get him Riyu, he deserves it
The Beatrix dramatic entrance and then immediately Dorama
Another great one take
LaRow loves nothing but taunting people she doesn’t like - both Sora and Jordana. If they ever end up reconciling, they already have a mutual enemy
They show a clip of Beatrix admitting the dragons didn’t escape, but it’s a different one from when she does the same thing with LaRow in E11
Sora’s dad shakes his head as Sora speaks
Excellent speech from Sora, following in her Master’s footsteps
Kai and Wyldfyre are so cool
Why would you throw one of your own loyalists?
We are all dragons!
Oh shoot
The Power Within:
Finally, Dorama sees the bigger picture
Extremely cool shot (the MergeQuake over the entire city of Imperium)
I agree, the Empress *has* lost it
Excellent shot of the Ninja
Wyldfyre!
Kai gets sliced with a giant mech sword and is basically fine— what sort of armor is under those Ninja outfits
Percival!
Riyu!
Arin can only do Object Spinjitzu when Sora’s in danger (or when he thinks about Sora being in danger)
Oh no not Rapton ah well
LET’S GO SORA WOOOO
See ya Beatrix
Oh no not the Bounty (again)
Zanth randomly grows in size and then never does again lol
I would never forget you Lobbo
I think Arin’s parents are proud of him
Sora’s parents were swallowed by a MergeQuake
Is the Sora scene a culmination of a whole season of character development executed really well? Yes. That being said, I had an even bigger smile when Frohicky appeared driving Zane’s car with the dragon core
Yet another awesome Lloyd vision scene
Dragon hugs :)
The Source Dragon scenes are always cool
“Who was right?” Good question
What’s special about Riyu, Mr. Energy?
“This cycle” what do you mean?
Good advice Lloyd, suppressing your emotions is bad
So we now know that Wyldfyre has Heat, not Fire, but how does that differ besides burning vs melting aluminum cans? (there are plenty of ways but I’m interested to see what they go with)
Kai how’d you drop your pie immediately
Ras stop manipulating teenagers challenge level: impossible
So Ras has a “true” Master, wants to unlock forbidden secrets, and is now working with Jordana. Great setup for Season 2
Closing (brief) thoughts on Dragons Rising Season 1: It’s really good. Good blend of the more episodic stuff and serialized content. Arin and Sora are a blast, Lloyd is great, and I forgot just how good the Wyldfyre stuff is this season. There’s a lot of hanging threads, but Season 1 also does feel like a complete story. It’s not perfect by any means, but certainly at the higher end of Ninjago seasons.
Next up, the start of Dragons Rising Season 2!
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finalvortex · 1 year ago
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as you can probably tell i finished dragons rising. some general thoughts:
"very few know that not only did the first spinjitzu master create ninjago, he also created several other realms" HE DIDN'T EVEN CREATE NINJAGO
i don't know why anyone is surprised arrekore isn't evil? we knew djinn weren't normally evil - nadakhan was exiled, that's why he was in ninjago in the first place
ok the impossible path got me. but also did none of the mucoids ever think to wear shoes
kai teaching wyldfyre lessons he learnt from wu! lessons we saw wu teach him! also the way that he figures out how to do it in a way that makes sense to her. really good kai characterization
i believed you guys when you said cole and geo were gay, but wow.
that said did cole just run off following master wu's voice without telling any of his family where he was going
is anyone else weirded out by bonzle why is her face shaped like that. why doesn't she look other skulkin.
"what if jay has amnesia" what if he doesn't. what if he chose to join the administration because he thought it was the best way he could help people where he ended up but he's just really bad at it.
does that mean nya and jay both landed in the realm of madness? i think nya said she was somewhere else before meeting the craglings, so probably not, but that's something to think about.
man and i thought sora couldn't get any more trans coded. honestly i was surprised how refreshing it was to have a character confront their parents and go "actually, fuck you, i don't owe you anything, and i have a new family that loves me for who i am"
that said it's kind of funny that her parents were the only ones who still believed in beatrix. if there was more time it could have been interesting to see imperium splitting into two factions over this
i was completely expecting the ninja to find zeatrix and restore her to the throne, since that's basically what happened with benthomaar and vania. honestly bold move to completely topple the monarchy and establish that imperium is going to be led by a democratic council from now on. old ninjago could never
ok so the wildness is its own realm. this raises even more questions about where wyldfyre came from
overall really good season and i'm looking forward to seeing where they go next
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omgjayaaa · 6 months ago
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Time for part 2 but Dragons Rising edition
quick disclaimers:
This is just for fun and I’m not trying to say any one ninja is more traumatized then the rest.
I only put what I remember and you’re welcome to add stuff I forgot 👍
And let’s get into it!
Lloyd
Got separated from his family for a concerning amount of time
probably separation anxiety times 20
Nearly loses his kids students a lot
He misses his uncle poor guy
(rip master Wu crab rave 🦀🦀🦀)
Where is his family. Give them back now .
Gets high from dragon powers 👍
gets horrible visions from dragon powers 👎
Pls comfort him
so many panic attacks
hugs
he needs hugs
PLEASE HUG HIM
watched his big brother get sucked through a portal and be banished <33
he’s a silly little guy
Nya
Literally lost her family (AGAIN)
Misses her yin
give him back to her >:(
the whole dream scenario .
foreshadowing is evil
lost her brother
Found her brother
lost her brother to a flying boulder
Her brother came back :D
oop there he goes :0
Zane
If this man gets dehumanized one more time I’m losing it
STOP KIDNAPPING HIM
Petition to stop Imperium from cocooning random nindroids. It’s immoral.
Bro he’s not just a machine 💀
‘WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DINT EXPIERNCE COMPLEX EMOTIONS
somebody give him a hug or I’ll do it myself >:(
Cole
GIVE HIM BACK HIS DAUGHTER
and his best friend :(
If s2 makes Jay and Cole fight each other in the tournament I will die .
theyre best friends fight me
PUPPY COLW (im not sure this counts as trauma)
‘but hes cuteeeee
Promised to protect Bonzle. (Mission failed successfully ig)
Jay
Let him play his video games
JAYAAA
im not getting Jaya am I ?
just soul crushing angst ;-;
Amnesia. So much amnesia
Kai
Oh wow uh
gets separated from family
lloyd almost obliterates him
gets obliterated by a boulder
season one is fairly tame
becomes a single father of one
proceeds to panic over child’s wyld behavior
‘haha funny right? Wyld. (I’ve become Jay)
Gets sucked through a mergequake portal
sees a really messed up vision but they won’t tell us what it is :((
SHOW US THE VISION
gets banished womp womp
Wyldfyre
Yeah. Her family died.
dragon family death count worrying
was rocketed away from her family and us fostered by a dragon family only for them to pasta way
Doesnt really connect well with humans
‘Realizes pranks aren’t always funny the hard way
lost her father dragon for a good while
then loses her human dad (kai) through a portal
let’s not forget about Cinder breaking her leg 💀
Sora
This girl needs about a thousand hugs
lets speedrun this trauma list shall we?
Parents who are absolutely horrendous
she finally makes parents proud and gets invited to help work in the lab (her hero is evil womp womp)
She gets her creation turned against her
watches an innocent dragon get tortured
Gets disowned by parents
isnt allowed at the dinner table
gets her work bench taken away
runs away
all this results to her having self worth and identity issues
has to return to her home because of her past being used against her once again
has to bring online more weapons which causes distrust with her and Arin briefly
Her self worth issues get worse but Nya helps
ultimately she realizes her parents aren’t her true family anymore and she doesn’t need to prove anything to them, unlocking her true potential
Her and Arin start to drift apart
she helps him with her powers thinking it’s right (it’s probably gonna end badly)
And I will cry
they make me sad
really sad
btw if I see Sora’s parents again I will yeet them
deadname Sora again I dare you 🔪
Arin
Lost his parents in the merge
he blames himself for their disappearance
Gets a hammer yeeted at him by Ras at some point and Sora had to watch him get hurt
is terrified of losing people he loves. Riyu, Lloyd, Wyldfyre, Sora…
Begins to spiral worse in s2
This little guy can hold some much self hatred in him *pats head*
GIVE HIM HIS PARENTS BACK
HE DESERVES IT
i swear if they end up being bad guys I’ll cry
Gets shatterspined by Cinder
Constantly fails which puts a strain on the guy’s mental health
Gets beaten within an inch of his life by Ras
seriously Ras chill
thats a child
On his villain arc
The morro parallels are terrifying me
Mom come pick me up I’m scared
there’s a lot of debate of which ninja is the most traumatized and I honestly can’t decide, so I’m gonna list all the trauma I remember. Feel free to add anymore I missed.
Kai
Parentless
raised his sister by himself and had to run a blacksmith shop as a teen to make ends meet
his sister got kidnapped
Got hit with snake venom and was high for awhile
got stuck in a collapsing volcano
the whole birthday human piñata thing
saw his brother explode (rip Zane)
ends up falling in love with a villain
loses his powers
gets tricked by said villain and almost destroys Lloyd with the power staff
gf turned into a snake
got teased about what happened to his parents
(still parentless)
fails to protect his possessed brother
is forced to fight said possessed brother
nearly drowns
gets swarmed by psycho fangirls (s6)
finds out his parents may be traitors
truly believes his parents are traitors and tries to stab them
father gets hit my the time punch
is forced to go back in time and watches Master Wu be lost to time
watches his best friend fall off the bounty and “die” (and literally can’t do a thing)
loses his powers (again)
gets thrown into a bunch of walls
literally has to summon his fire or everyone will DIE
watches everyone get turned to ice sculptures
Loses powers and gets turned into a cube o7
gets pelted with rocks
sister turns into the sea
gets in a car crash
turns into a Crystal zombie
oh, and he gets hit by a giant blast and thrown into the distance, then nearly gets killed by dragons.
Jay
Turns into a snake man
Gets tied up and nearly hit by a train
has a pointless love triangle where he breaks up with his best friend
literally resents him the whole time but is secretly sad
said best friend sacrifices himself and Jay has to watch him be thrown into the pit below rip
is adopted
Bio dad is dead (dead as hell)
bio mom is gone (who knows where)
he’s just motherless
Spider tries to eat him
literally gets tortured by a bunch of pirates
loses his ex gf to a super hot djinn
watches Nya die
is traumatized by even the mention of time travel (s7)
adoptive mom gets kidnapped
is so traumatized that he just becomes emotionally depleted and is okay with a dragon eating him???
watches best friend literally fall into a cloud of darkness and can’t even do anything
almost falls into lava
watches his whole family and gf get cubed
gets sacrificed to a sea beast (which isn’t technically real but still)
almost drowns
literally almost dies because water in lungs
gf turns into the sea
is depressed for awhile
grows a beard
Gets turned into a Crystal zombie
‼️‼️SPOILER‼️‼️amnesia
Cole
Mother died when he was a child
Which lead to a bad relationship with his father
ran away and climbed a mountain in his grief
nearly got killed by a dragon
got mind controlled and was forced to fight his friends/ninja brothers
had a weird love triangle
lost powers
sacrificed himself for Jay
turned into a ghosty boi
got kidnapped by the sons of Garmadon
falls off the bounty and nearly gets frozen in the oni cloud
feels so responsible for losing the travelers tea that he literally climbs up a snowy mountain without sleeves-
gets cubed in a video game
is attacked by a creature wearing his moms locket
no one believes him
despite all the crazy things that have happened
gets thrown to the bottom of the mountain
Gets in a car crash
crystal Zombie time
Zane
Fatherless
wandered for like 10 years-
had amnesia
everyone calls him “weird”
is actually a nindroid
bird robot dies several times
btw his dad is actually alive
falls in love with a robot girl
literally gives her half of his heart
sacrifices himself to protect those he loves and all of ninjago
is rebuilt only to be kidnapped
gf is scrapped and now lives in his head
dies again because smartphones aren’t real (s7)
nearly dies from being thrown off the cliff by someone who was essentially supposed to be himself
Had visions about his literal banishment
gets banished to the never realm
loses memories and is manipulated
commits mass genocide
nearly assassinated
Gets electric shocked and hooked up to power a giant machine
turns off emotions because of Nya becoming a mermaid
crystal zombie
literally locked in a imperium temple for years (but doesn’t remember a thing???)
Nya
Lost both her parents at a young age
was kidnapped
becomes samurai X because she wanted to help and the others wouldn’t let her
im not even going to talk about s3
gets hunted down by Chen’ forces
is actually the water ninja
unlocks her true potential before everyone can die
is forced to deal with misogyny at every turn because she’s the “girl ninja”
gets possessed by the spirit of Delara
dies
someone steals her samurai suit
her parents are alive
she watches her family and bf die
has to deal with survivors guilt when Cole “dies”
is forced to confront her powers once again in s12
gets cubed
watches her bf get flirted with and he doesn’t do anything
Becomes a Queen despite not wanting to???
watches bf get sacrificed
Misses her mom but she’s been gone so long things have changed
sacrifices herself to save Jay
turns into the sea
amnesia
is alive again but is separated from Jay once again (merge)
Lloyd
Mom left him at a boarding school as a baby
dad is evil
Is mistreated and opens a serpentine tomb
gets gatekeeped, gaslight and girlbossed by a purple snake
kidnapped
nearly dies because he’s forced to retrieve a fang blade
almost dies in a volcano
Hes destined to defeat his father btw
and fight him
Son vs father
loses his childhood to save his friends
mother is alive
has to fight his father and destroy the overlord
friend group breaks up after Zane dies
Recently redeemed father dies because Lloyd has to banish him to the cursed realm
gets possessed by his cousin
gets thrown into a river and nearly drowns
says a final goodbye to his father
gets really old
isnt old anymore
is forced into a leadership role and no one cares
falls in love with this really pretty, nice girl
oops
shes evil
she beats him up and brings his father back from the dead (only the evil part)
his father beats him up and leaves him for dead
watches family be crushed
is forced top into leadership again and confronts loss
fights his father one last time and defeats him narrowly
Is forced to work with and babysit his evil dad
is so traumatized by Harumi that his trust issues are heightened
distrusts a Wolf girl but works with her
she kisses him and then he leaves (for good?)
Is forced to fight video game Harumi and they kill each other (poetic but cruel)
is cubed
sneaks into Cole’s bedroom just to tell him how much he distrusts the new princess
sister gets turned into the sea
works at Starbucks?
his ex gf is alive and pissed
dad loves a plant more than him
father plays dead and Lloyd turns into a demon goat man
Gets separated from his whole family in the merge
gets a vision of his family’s grave
gets high, beats the shit out of some bad guys and passes out
probably traumatized after that
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