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Dragons Rising S3E8 introduces Lar, who was a fake elemental master of water, but after the Merge, he became the Elemental Master of Red Water (first seen in “Gangs of the Sea”). We meet him after he’s joined the New Ninja, but the episode ends with him merging with the (red) sea to defeat Mala-Wojira (different from Wojira) after she was awoken by Kalmaar (who survived and turned from purple to white).
Then the New Ninja pick up some chronosteel at Kreel’s junkyard, drain his power and he’s fine.
If the writers really wanted to, they could make lar a canon character... with all the new elemental masters showing up... he could be the elemental master of H2O or something...
#and it becomes the most beloved episode of the show#bookmark this it’s happening#calling up Doc Wyatt and Kevin Burke to tell then they need to do a quick rewrite#Ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago lar#lar ninjago
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There's gotta be something more to the Blood Moon right?
It was associated with the Forbidden Five in ancient times and the curse on Egalt and Rontu, but even if there had been a Blood Moon when the FF ruled the Wyldness, it only would have lasted one night.
Ras describes the sacrifices needed to free the FF as sacrifices "to the Blood Moon" and when he addresses his master, he stares at the Blood Moon.
Lloyd's visions even post-Blood Moon still include it, and the Source Dragon of Motion herself attacks and destroys it (in Lloyd's head).
or maybe it's just a magical lunar eclipse who knows
#this isn't really a “Dragons Rising Mystery”™ but the writers could go into more detail#it also rises really fast but I think that's just for effect#the FF connections can be explained away as just a cool aesthetic#and Ras could just be saying whatever#but why is it still in Lloyd's visions after he experienced the Blood Moon?#yeah it could be a vision of the past but why does the SD of Motion attack it?#ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago dr s2#dr s2#ninjago lloyd#Lloyd garmadon#ninjago ras#lord ras#ninjago egalt#ninjago rontu#ninjago forbidden five#forbidden five#ninjago source dragon of motion#source dragon of motion
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garmadon, they "will never set foot in Ninjago" even if you didn't banish them because NONE OF THEM HAVE FEET
#sloppy#very sloppy#/s#ninjago#ninjago s4#ninjago tournament of elements#ninjago garmadon#garmadon#sensei garmadon
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Reminder that Lloyd had no way of knowing that Sora had beat Frak earlier - for all he knew, he was the last Ninja standing in the tournament
also he might be "the king of putting too much pressure on himself" but this one is on the SD of Motion imo
#someone needs to let this guy take a break#no wonder why his mom tried to find a way for him to escape the prophecy#ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago lloyd#Lloyd garmadon#dr s2#ninjago dr s2#dr s2p2#ninjago source dragon of motion#source dragon of motion
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Kai hears that Nya felt left out when he and the other Ninja went on missions without her, learns that she's fully competent as a Samurai, and then next episode tells her to "head back to the Bounty and wait."
Seriously did he completely forget or something? No asking if she wants to join, just a command to go away.
#early season ninjago wow#this episode is basically perfect otherwise#and if the writers didn't want to include Nya#just have her get a Samurai X alert on her bracelet or something#at least give a reason for her not being in the main plot#this alternative is obviously still bad but it says something that they couldn't be bothered to do it#ninjago#ninjago season 1#ninjago rise of the snakes#ninjago s1#ninjago kai#ninjago nya
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sincerely at a complete loss here. I���ve seen this battle plenty of times too so I feel like I should be able to tell if there’s a difference but maybe not?
Kai: Follow you? You're two beats off. Zane: Actually, 2.72 off the beat.
feeling like this rn
Wu goes from being concerned about his "old bones" to being turned evil, confronting a failure from his past, nearly aging to death, reliving his youth, confronting a failure from his past (again), regaining his motivation, and then finally directly confronting the embodiment of evil itself.
Underrated character journey is all I'm saying
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I keep listening to it and I hear no difference 😭.
I downloaded the video from that same Lego upload so idk why it would have changed (and didn’t apply any filters myself).
Wu goes from being concerned about his "old bones" to being turned evil, confronting a failure from his past, nearly aging to death, reliving his youth, confronting a failure from his past (again), regaining his motivation, and then finally directly confronting the embodiment of evil itself.
Underrated character journey is all I'm saying
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Wu goes from being concerned about his "old bones" to being turned evil, confronting a failure from his past, nearly aging to death, reliving his youth, confronting a failure from his past (again), regaining his motivation, and then finally directly confronting the embodiment of evil itself.
Underrated character journey is all I'm saying
#I got the video from Lego's YouTube upload#listening to the two and they sound the same?#or at least close enough that any difference might just be compression?
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Wu goes from being concerned about his "old bones" to being turned evil, confronting a failure from his past, nearly aging to death, reliving his youth, confronting a failure from his past (again), regaining his motivation, and then finally directly confronting the embodiment of evil itself.
Underrated character journey is all I'm saying
#his conversation with Bonzle also helps contextualize a lot of this as well#how much of him recruiting the Ninja was him training students to do what he couldn't#and how much was it him trying to restore his friends from the Elemental Alliance?#he and Garmadon had been friends for literal centuries before G's fall#no wonder the guy went from looking like he was 30 to 80 in ten years#ninjago#ninjago wu#sensei wu#master wu#ninjago overlord#ninjago s1#ninjago rise of the snakes#ninjago s15#ninjago crystalized
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"Wasted [true] potential"
People love to say that [x] was actually a good idea but had "wasted potential" - I've seen this applied to basically any piece of Ninjago content that is generally disliked (eg. Hands of Time, Crystalized) or even stuff that is liked but could have been better.
This makes sense - usually if you dislike something, you can think about why you disliked it, and if you like the overall show, find a way to imagine how things could have gone better. But what's a Ninjago idea that was just bad?
No "wasted potential" - just something that was flawed from the start, and while theoretically it could have worked (since I think basically anything can be contorted into making sense), given the constraints of the medium, almost certainly would have failed.
Ideas:
Bringing back Harumi - could have been net neutral but I don't think anything could have been worth undoing her really powerful death scene
Reviving the villains in a 44-minute special. Unlike Crystalized bringing back old villains, where there was more than enough time to do something new ("wasted potential"), I don't think any version of DotD would have done justice to all the villains in just 44 minutes
The Jay/Cole/Nya love triangle. A better show could have pulled it off, and I'm almost willing to forgive it because "Versus" is such a good episode, but it did a lot of bad things to half the Ninja team and I don't think there was that much of an idea there to begin with beyond "let's invent character drama." It does lead into Skybound, which *does* have wasted potential (and some individually bad ideas) but the triangle in and of itself was just bad from the start
On the same note - the Wu/Garmadon/Misako love triangle. Even worse.
The episode "True Potential" ironically enough falls into the almost-reverse category -- the category of having almost no "wasted potential" because it delivers on its potential so well. Love this episode
Snaketastrophy - suffice it to say I would appreciate its humor a lot more (because it is genuinely funny) if it didn't come at the expense of (inadvertently) gutting Harumi's character, which I think was unavoidable without completely changing the plot.
The magical storeroom gags in DRS2. The only "potential" they had was to be shorter
Agree? Disagree? What are some of your ideas on stuff that isn't "wasted potential"? Could also be things that have no "wasted potential" since the execution was really good and lived up to all the potential!
#this is kinda a negative post#obviously there's some things I listed here that people like#no hate intended ofc#I just feel like so much community discussion is “what if x was different”#but there have gotta be things that were just fundamentally flawed#even if they could be improved to a degree#maybe this post is one of them#ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago critique
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Shatterspin is presented as a near unstoppable weapon in "Shattered Dreams." By "Rising Ninja," it can be countered, but such a counter (Rising Dragon) is presented as a big climactic moment. By "Elements of Betrayal," it's barely a nuisance.
#wondering how the Forbidden Five will remain a threat after this#using their elemental powers will help#but all that does is even the playing field#no one has a real advantage#ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago dr s2#dr s2
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Okay Skylor gets a pass for taking a parachute despite having the Elemental Power of Gravity since she's evil at this point but Kai and Jay -- both of you have limited abilities to fly. Maybe at least *try* to use them before taking a parachute?
Also Sensei Garmadon would have been fine -- don't tell me he fell from a much higher height in "Spellbound" than in "The Day of the Dragon" -- the man was up in mere seconds after falling from a plane.
#and this is setting aside true potentials#both Kai and Jay can fly with theirs#they don't use their powers to fly in other seasons either#but I don't think they're ever in a situation where flying would be as useful as it is here#when I first watched this episode I was very confused about Lloyd's dragon#it's a green version of the golden dragon but that seemed like a golden power exclusive thing#but as foreshadowing for the “everyone gets a dragon” thing it made sense#ninjago#ninjago s4#ninjago tournament of elements#ninjago skylor#ninjago kai#ninjago jay#jay walker#ninjago lloyd#Lloyd garmadon#ninjago garmadon#sensei garmadon#garmadon
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just saying that with Nokt‘s power being brute force, there is a realistic chance that Zarkt‘s power is brutal dominance
#on one hand there's no way they pull this twice#on the other this was my first thought too#imagining the forbidden five calling out their elements before using them like the Ninja used to#“swarm!”#“brute force!”#“brutal dominance!”
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A normal True Potential requires confronting one's insecurities, weaknesses, and fears, facing them and learning to live with and overcome them.
The Gong of Shattering allows someone to destroy that which holds them back -- the good in their soul, forcing the progress they need.
#like the parallels here#idk if Cinder already reached his true potential#he can use his powers freely but so could Nya pre-True Potential#maybe the gong let him use shatterspin#but his real potential is lost forever#ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago dr s2#dr s2p1
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Taking all this information at face value:
The Serpentine came from Chima*
The First Spinjitzu Master created the Serpentine**
He did so at the time as when he created Ninjago**
Then when the FSM created Ninjago, he incidentally created Serpentine deep below the ground of Chima? And then they came to Ninjago??
The better interpretation of this is that the FSM created Serpentine in Ninjago based on the Serpentine in Chima, who I guess ended up going to Ninjago or dying out before the events of Legends of Chima. Even though Tommy's original tweet implies that his theory is that the Serpentine all came to Ninjago. Not to mention that the original impetus for his tweet was the fact that Pythor had a blue crystal in his chest, so maybe that's where he would place a chi orb.* But none of the other Serpentine (including the other Anacondrai) have that. Maybe Acidicus is just wrong when he says the FSM created the Serpentine (very possible) but Doc's post*** implies that he is still telling the truth.
But this is why you don't do canon changes by tweet/BlueSky post, because it will very likely end up conflicting with established lore. In this case, we have no reason to doubt what was established over a decade ago except for posts on social media. (the same thing happened with Lloyd's elemental power btw until Roby called it "life" - until then the names "power" and "energy" were equally valid) Also Tommy (who worked on both shows) never even canonized it in the first place**** so I don't even know what's going on here.
Don’t get me wrong, if lore inconsistencies are needed in service of a good story, then I’ll live with them. But in this case, I think it’s a better story that the Serpentine were created by the same person who created humans and both races come from Ninjago. The story of the Serpentine over the whole show is that despite their conflicts, by the end, they and humans have learned how to coexist and even become friends. Having the same origin hammers this home - they’re truly not so different.
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*Tommy's original tweet, which is in response to a question about Pythor's blue crystal
**Serpentine were created when Ninjago was according to "The Curse of the Golden Master"
***Serpentine came from Chima but also the FSM made them according to Doc Wyatt
****This was never even canon in the first place according to Tommy
#I like that we can engage with the creators on social media#it helps the fandom#but there's no need to start altering old lore#we had the same thing with the akita never realm time moving faster aspheera time travel stuff#my personal philosophy is to go with what the show says above everything#if the show contradicts then creator statements can resolve#if the show contradicts the the creator statement go with the show#very possible when Doc is asking why they're mutually exclusive he's genuinely curious#after all he didn't write either show#ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago serpentine#doc wyatt#Tommy andreasen#legends of chima
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In Bricks By Mind's video we hear from the set designers that "Zane's Ultra Combiner Mech" is actually just Zane in the show* (he becomes big).
Imagining this as the transformation:
*Does that mean that the car the mech can transform into is also Zane? What about the jet? There's medium-sized Zane inside the mech but the mech is also Zane so does Zane become super big, then to demonstrate the transforming features of the mech, he becomes smaller but still leaves his shell (body???) behind to turn into vehicles? ahhhhhhhh.....
#Zanes inside zanes#what is the world coming to#in all seriousness this seems pretty cool#not sure how they'll pull it off in show#but I like the set#ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago dr s3#ninjago spoilers#ninjago dragons rising spoilers#ninjago zane#zane julien
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DuckBricks's video has a bunch of reveals:
The Forbidden Five are looking for the five Prismatic Blades (which can be used to free "something", according the Bricks By Mind's video). This seems to debunk any "leak" that says the FF are looking for two blades
Dragonians are from the First Realm
To know what "Brute Force" is, "ask Doc" (lol)
The dragon on top of Ras and Arin's Super Storm Jet is robotic (maybe? not confirmed from the designers but that is what DuckBricks said)
Riyu's new set design includes armor. Will this be canon to the show?
#reveals seem to be moving pretty fast#my guess is we'll start getting show promo material two months or so from now#very excited#ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago dr s3#ninjago forbidden five#ninjago dragonians#ninjago riyu#ninjago spoilers#ninjago dragons rising spoilers#duckbricks
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