#wouldve loved to get it on alpha but i am NOT playing all the way back to the stillgore chateau

[risingsunresistance]

omg you get to pick the color of this one according to the wiki page

[gronjon44]

Ok, so I'd like to update my take on the Ghostbusters 2016 vs Ghostbusters: Afterlife situation.

Last time I spoke with @veronica-rich , I'd like to point out that I hadn't fully realized the details of the 2016 film. I went and rewatched it, and I'd like to add more to my thoughts.

First, the film isnt as bad as some people would suggest. There were good moments I like the comedy that comes from Holtzman and Chris Hemsworths character (his name escapes me rn), there were some strong ideas present and it wss actually an ok film.

BUT

I would also like to point out the flaws of the film. And to clarify. None of these have anything to do with the fact that's it's a female version of the original, but I'll get to that in a moment.

The films as a whole is fine I don't hate it. But I have gripes. The first being the writing which, in all honesty, could have used some work. The pacing was slow compared to the original, despite having an almost parallel story format, with certain details shoved at random spots where they weren't needed or were necessary but not provided.

But there were small details I liked, like the bust of Egon in the background or Patty's uncle being one of the original Ghostbusters cast members. Bill Murray as a "antagonist" to rile iPhone of the main characters was, in my opinion, unneeded as a reference to the original film. The bust of Egon, Dan Akkroyd as the cabbie, and Ernie Hudson as the uncle were nice details. But Bill Murray and even Signorney Weaver were both just kinda unneeded. Personally, I think it wouldve been better to have say Rick Moranis somewhere in the film might've been funnier, whereas Ms. Weaver and Bill Murray I felt like were there for the popularity aspect.

And let's not forget Annie Potts as the receptionist in both films which, honestly was probably my favorite special guest from the original.

But now the plot.

Ima say it, it was predictable. The original film had an engaging plot that I always found fun to watch. And in the beginning the new film wss in fact, fun to watch. But when the villain killed himself on his device I think it just got predictable. Using himself as a sort of undead conduit to further his plan, him turning into the evil version of the logo, even Slimer driving the Ecto-1 into the vortex that wss predictable. It all just felt kinda simple and, yeah it's movie not a Shakespearean Play, but it can have a few more twists and turns to make it interesting.

Also I very much enjoyed the big goofy dance scene with the soldiers it reminded me of the big Cuban Pete scene from The Mask.

Now the ending however...

That was bad.

The final action scene was genuinly boring to watch I couldnt get into it, best part might've been when the green gargoyle thing got shredded. The squishing of everyone by the StayPuff Marshmellow man wss kinda funny but eh.

The confrontation with the antagonist was... ok. Now, I LOVE this idea of the final ghost being an evil riff of the Mascot, that was awesome and funny and I enjoyed that part. Everything else, not so much. The way they fought him was boring it just felt like a slow Kaiju fight to me. And the way they beat him is just... uncalled for. I can enjoy grossout humor or an occasional gross joke I live off crass humor the joke in the beginning with the fart coming from the front wss one of my favorites. But shooting him in the dick that just... I get it'll make most men weakened I get it but gah...

No other gripes with the plot honestly, other than too many gaps.

Now some smaller details I'd like to point out, I'm just gonna list em quick fire.

Too many references it felt lo like they're were just trying to shove as much Ghostbusters shit in the viewers face it was just kinda annoying after awhile.

Some grossout humor is fine but certain bits like the over the top puke scene actually made me feel uncomfortable and not in a funny way.

The way they used Slimer wss fine but trying to introduce a random Female Version wss just kinda weird.

Ima say it, the black chick wasnt as funny to me she had a few good jokes but she was eh.

The Zuul reference at the end just annoyed me for some reason. The entire plot was one big riff of the original with the person breaking the barrier, ghosts running rampant, the spooky ghost chick in the beginning, even something as simple as the scene in the train tunnel it was all frame for frame practically. If yoire gonna copy the whole plot just use Zuul and replace Stay Puff with the ghost Mascot.

Now, to adress the elephant in the room. Gender debate. This film is without hesitation, meant for the female and feminist audience. But to say it does not care about the other side of the demographic and is 100 percent against men isnt fully true. Like I said the ending it a litteral and figurative jab at men, and it shows throughout the film. Men are treated like a joke, the Major is am idiot with his female secretary doing most his job. Hell No Men Beyond this Point was nicer to men than this film was, and that showed Men as a LITTERAL MINORITY essentially.

And I won't be the first to admit that Chris Hemsworth is really funny as a dumb blonde I'll say it yeah, but making every other men an absolute tool was kinda unneeded. Even the cops and the people who ran the universities were basically made out to be self righteous alpha males, which can be excused as to further the plot, but it wouldve been better off just making the mayor and cops women, making the mayors secretary a man who believed in them, and even make the college professors women or at the very least make them semi understanding in their actions I get we're meant to hate them and you don't need to make them likeable, but at least make them a bit less alpha male.

I'm gonna say it one more time. I think this film is actually ok and it doesn't deserve as much hate as it gets, gender debate aside it litterally is just a female retelling of the original film.

Do I think it could've used some work? Yeah.

Do I think people should be a bit more understanding about it? Yeah.

Do I think it deserves a sequel? No not in the slightest.

This is ok yeah, but it by no means deserves a continuation. Take away the fact it's a reboot and take away the gender debate, and look at it as just some movie that exists and accept it normal flaws as a normal film.

And I personally think that it genuinely does not deserve a second film. It was ok but it was by no means sequel worthy. And honestly I am excited because the original two films earned a third film. And I'm happy to see a new film come from the son of the original director.

And that's all this film is, isnt it? A letter from a son to his father, saying "Hey I really enjoyed the story you told, and I'm sad you didnt get to finish it. Why don't I finish it for you? I'll treat it well dont worry."

I also will say this to those who plan on hating the new film just because they didnt make a sequel for the 2016 version, then by all means, grow up.

In the end it's all just a film so just learn to enjoy it. And stop hating films before they've even hit theaters. And that goes on both sides of the argument.