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— "you will always be my daddy"— murmured anxiously.
#boyblogging#lana del rey#lizzy grant aesthetic#male manipulator#girlblogging#the virgin suicides#buffalo 66#my edit#edit#femme bait#femme fatale#gay
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some of you need to take a seriously long look at how you interpret women in media. and if you don’t see a problem with the explicitly + insanely misogynistic ideals you’re perpetuating then you should probably kill yourself 👍
#before the people this is about get upset because ‘suicide baiting is wrong’#please keep in mind:#1. don’t give a fuck#2. the world would be better without you in it#3. you’re going to hell
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#there is an incomparable level of hilarity to the experience of god suicide-baiting you#only real sufferers will truly understand this
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"Eddie said he's straight! Buck said Eddie was straight! Buck said he's not in love with his best friend! They shut down Buddie in the show it isn't happening ya'll are delusional! Queerbait! Queerbait! Blah blah blah"
I feel like I'm going insane. I'm sure we're all tired of people shouting "media literacy" every five seconds, but like... Yeah, develop some media literacy, please.
I'm saying this as someone who doesn't usually like romance, despite being subjected to it in basically every piece of media. As someone who doesn't generally look for love stories. As someone who loved Buddie but didn't consider any serious possibility of it becoming canon before season 7/8, who refused to believe Buddie was truly happening until I couldn't deny it anymore: this episode is loud.
Please understand how narrative arcs work. How character arcs work. How character development works. How serial broadcast television works. Understand how writing works. Consider context; take the whole episode, the whole season, and the whole series into account instead of treating things like they exist in isolation.
I'm too tired to go through the step-by-step details of the episode to prove why these, "they said it on screen, therefore..." takes are shortsighted and ignorant; plenty of people have done that already.
But that episode, even if we do take it in isolation, is textbook. Do people really take everything characters say at face value? Do people not watch other character's reactions? Listen to what else is being said? Watch what is being shown? Consider the implications? Themes? Narrative devices?
Consider that maybe, just maybe, characters can be unreliable narrators, or believe something to be true only for that belief to change later. These things don't happen in one episode. There's such a thing as set-up, foreshadowing, the starting point of a plot. 911 is a serial drama, therefore it is going to have A) long-form story and character arcs, and B) drama.
Characters are not going to move in straight lines, or talk in therapy speak, or solve every problem in an hour. They are not always going to be right, or self-aware, or truthful, or rational. Direct dialogue does not equate to honest dialogue.
Also, saying, "well in real life, people do this, I do that, their feelings would be this, yadda yadda yadda" means nothing. Your experiences are not universal, and more importantly, this is a work of fiction. Realism is whatever the story says it is; it's going to do whatever creates the most dramatic, interesting, developmentally beneficial, or emotionally satisfying story. Whether you like that story or not is irrelevant to the fact that stories are not going to cater to all your expectations or real-world experiences.
To people pointing to Tim or the actor's interviews as "proof" they're shutting down Buddie: again, please understand how broadcast television works. They are not going to tell us everything that's going to happen before it happens. They are going to play the neutral zone, the "wait and see," the "will they/won't they." They are going to lie. That is television production 101. You can compare what they've said in the past with canon and list all the contradictions, misdirection, and twists you didn't see coming because they didn't spoil it for you. Watch the show. That is the canon.
They're also not catering to fandom--people they already know are devoted to the show, familiar with Buddie, and consistently tuning in. They're introducing the idea of Buddie to the general audience, people who likely haven't considered the possibility before. The GA has to see that Buddie is an option, so the show needs to manifest it as if it's a brand new concept. This episode pulled the pin on that grenade in a very obvious way; the idea that Buck could be in love with Eddie and that Eddie could not be straight has been planted. The next seed will be Eddie's feelings. Now the show needs to water it and let it grow.
One last thing. Been seeing a fair amount of hand-wringing and condescension over people interpreting this episode differently. As if this is some sort of "gotcha" for bad writing, baiting, or people being stupid. Listen, genuine complaints about this show's writing aside, different interpretations or inferences are completely normal. This isn't unique. That is how people interact with stories, through personal biases, experiences, emotions, and expectations. That isn't inherently a bad thing. It's totally fine to have your own views; media is all about interpretation.
However, it is also true that just because you have an interpretation, that doesn't make it true. Not all interpretations are equal in their validity, evidence, or warrants. The show has an intention, it has a story in mind. If you don't see it, sure, that could be a failure of the writing, but it could also very well be a failure of your analysis, especially when the show hasn't finished telling the story. Looking at one thing in isolation and forming your whole conclusion based around that makes for poor critique.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see who's right.
#911#911 abc#911 spoilers#buddie#ramblings#911 discourse#I guess#I usually keep my mouth shut in this fandom but I am exhausted#i am not working through a degree in narrative writing and media literacy to watch people fail this badly at critical analysis#also hate people shouting “queerbait” going “well as a *fandom elder* who survived destiel/sterek/johnlock/etc.” or whatever#bruh I grew up on that shit too please just shut uuuuuup#like be honest those weren't going to happen and it was obvious from watching the shows (not that ships need to be canon anyways)#I know queerbaiting is traumatizing but you have got to stop throwing that word around so casually and before the story is even finished#this is a whole different show with several established queer characters in a different era of television#the fact buddie is a big open topic of media discussion now is also huge--it's being established in the minds of the public#and yeah yeah “they're baiting” but do you not see how in this day and age queerbaiting would effectively be career suicide?#also they aren't relying on shippers to keep their ratings afloat#if they weren't going to do buddie they wouldn't keep leaving the question open-ended it's a catch-22 at this point#i know pessimism is all the rage but i'm begging you to try optimism and good-faith and maybe some positivism
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i wouldn't survive in casual relationships I bring Shakespearean-level devotion to a 3-day talking stage
#girl blogging#live laugh girlblog#just girly things#this is what makes us girls#hell is a teenage girl#girlhood#lana del rey#lana del ray aka lizzy grant#mentally ill girlies#female manipulator#manic pixie dream girl#the virgin suicides#sylvia plath#wlw post#wlw yearning#wlw#femme#femme4butch#femme4all#femme4masc#dykeposting#dyke bait#lesbian#wlw community#fawn girl#fawn angel#whisper girl#coquette#dolette#female hysteria
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