#why say Loki killed Thor's parents lmaooo
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So I sometimes disagree with your Loki takes, but WTF is wrong with that anon??! That's a fucking major hate boner for Loki. Saying he should have died as a baby... and failing to realize that the Odinsons are basically a story about severely dysfunctional family dynamics involving near-inmortal beings. Odin is their father, god, and king... and they have such long lives. Also, blaming Loki for Ragnarok instead of Odin or Hela.... smdh
ohhhhh is THAT why it's called wanking?
#i lost my trail of thought at hate-boner jsdbfdsjf#i love how people categorize them#competence-boner is also a funny one#Language!#L!#anyway you're right it's wack#why say Loki killed Thor's parents lmaooo
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Your answers are always so thought out so I wanted to ask you something! It’s a heavy debate if MCU Peter is worthy to wield mjolnir because of his refusal to kill. But I read a fic where he was able to, not because he was willing to kill, but because he was willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good. Now, hear me out. What if Spider-Man is worthy because he his willing to accept his sacrifice in order so save everyone?? (I really hope this makes sense, I love your blog btw <3)
Thank you, sweetheart♥
Well, I think you’re 100% right.
When Christopher Markus was asked if Steve was worthy in Age of Ultron, he answered:
I'd say he's not completely worthy yet. He still has the secret of Tony's parents' death to resolve.
Sometimes we can’t take the writers/directors logic about the hammer because they change them all the time. Sometimes for Thor’s narrative, sometimes they change the narrative to fit Cap’s idealism and can’t even keep up with the logic that was established before in the franchise.
There was certainly a debate at one point because particularly in Ragnarok, it establishes that Thor can summon the lightning without the hammer. I think Odin even says, ‘It was never the hammer.’ And yet Cap summons the lightning with the hammer. You get to those things and you’re like, ‘It’s too awesome not to do it! We’ll talk about it later.- Christopher Markus.
In this part, you can see that Christopher didn’t even know that what he said was accurate:
Odin in Thor 1:
Whosoever holds this hammer if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.
Man, I’m sorry but this Russo is my least favorite one lmao:
Joe Russo, stated that Cap was always worthy of lifting the hammer, but chose not to in Age of Ultron in order to preserve Thor's ego.
(I love how for them, anyone who is more powerful than Cap or has done different than Cap is just simply arrogant or has a big ego lmaooo)
Here, again, writers and directors contradicting themselves. So, we’re not going to pay attention to their logic.
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So, Peter was able to hold the hammer with his webbing in Endgame. Take into consideration the word ‘hold’, not ‘lift’. They said Cap couldn’t do it because he felt guilty about keeping Tony’s parents’ death. Peter, in his case, holds Ben’s death over his head all the time. Now, this is something that happens with most of the spider-man versions. But MCU Peter Parker can be an exception since, you know, they made Cap an exception too.
We’re going to follow the first Thor movie for real reference and we’re going to mix what’s happened in the recent movies.
In the first movie, Thor only regains his worthiness when he sacrifices himself selflessly and at the same time this is what frees him of what made him unworthy in the first place. So, in this case, even if Thor still felt like he did wrong, he could regain that worthiness by showing true compassion and selflessness. In a headspace where he felt like he could truly find redemption. MCU Peter has altruism down to a science. His first reaction to everything is to help people. For example, IW: being on a fieldtrip and deciding to help even if the space war was out of his league. Staying on the ship for his people and Tony. Homecoming: sacrificing human activities and normal experiences to do the right thing. FFH: being the first one to help everyone out (you can see that for him, it doesn’t matter if he’s helping civilians or friends, he puts them on the same ground) instead of running and hiding. And more.
Loki: What is this newfound love for the Frost Giants? You, who could've killed them all with your bare hands.
Thor: I've changed.
Then Thor asks Loki that if the throne is really worth what he’s done and become. You can see the change in Thor’s personality. He really had a change of heart. This means the hammer determines who is worthy regardless of physical strength. In this case, not only Peter can be worthy of Mjolnir but Tony is also worthy. Why? He was always willing to make the sacrifice. For everyone. For the greater good. And regardless of the guilt he’s always carried around, going by the MCU logic, the hammer would’ve seen past through that if he had a real change of heart about said guilt (one of the things that prevented him from separating himself from Iron Man but Tony’s unwillingness to change that guilt is because he doesn’t see himself worthy ‘I wanted you to be better’ his valueless comes with a price for him, therefore he can’t find himself in the same headspace). Because the hammer did the same with Thor and Steve.
Now, why do I make the Tony and Peter parallel?
Because we can argue that Peter Parker carries the same amount or practically some of the same guilt as Tony Stark; (when you can do the things that I can but you don’t and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you) and because of that, he can never bear to clear his conscience of what he considers his past mistakes (Uncle Ben, Beck hit a nerve in FFH by telling Peter that if he was stronger Tony would be alive, and more), therefore, Mjolnir would not find him worthy. But as said before, MCU Peter is different. I’m sure that if they broke some rules for Cap, they can do it for Peter.
So, in conclusion, I think you’re right. Maybe next movie Peter finds his true way to redemption. Not for the public’s eye, but for his own heart and principle.
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