#why does Lucifer get to have all the girlypop???

[allastoredeer]

The phenomenon of certain radioapple artists drawing Alastor looking like this manly handsome hunk is just ridiculous when in canon he's a feminine looking twink who's thin as hell with a tiny little waist and long legs. It's so painful to me. They're fucking de-twinkifying Alastor and denying him of his girlypop status for their macho top agenda 😭

NOT THE MACHO TOP AGENDA ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ

The denial of his girlypop status is what gets me the most. Why would they take away his sassy wrist flicks? Where's his whimsy? Where's the side of him that called Susan an "ornery old bitch" in the sassiest way possible?

They've stolen his flamboyancy. His trolling nature. His ✨pizzazz✨

I don't like macho Alastor. He scares me (ʘ‿ʘ)

[koukouture]

my artstyle is so inconsistent but anyways

this is Lucifer

(I'm still super proud of this one. I do have a full body ref of her but it's literally just the same robes as the other ancients)

So she's uh... yk what let's start with the easy stuff

She's Emet Selch and Hythlodaeus' senior and they've all known each other since they were kids. She's a performer and musician, back on Amaurot before she was Azem she was an actress at the local theatre. (which begs the question of why she was voted into the seat of Azem instead of Altima but we'll get to that)

And a little side note that I have not drawn yet but definitely will: she used a lot of illusion magic, especially in combat. It's just something to add a dramatic flair bc she's just extra like that. Also on her fighting style, she switches between different weapons. Like that's her gimmick- she's not quite as strong as Emet Selch and Venat, but she's flexible and that's out she eeks out a victory.

Emet Selch especially looked up to her a lot and emulates her in the MSQ quite a bit. His love of the arts mainly stems from her and his over the top and theatrical nature is also from her. He kinda copies her as a way of remembrance bc I do love me my angst.

Uh anyways, she is, in general terms, a sociopath. She is quite the narcissist and uses the acting skills she picked up growing up around the theatre to emulate regular emotions and behavior. Everything she does is sort of in service of appearing as someone normal and trustworthy, and her moral compass is largely determined by the people around her. In short, she's fake as fuck lmao.

I've already written an essay abt that side of her so yk what let's just condense it down: Lucifer took the seat of Azem to learn about emotions and yk sane person behavior. As Azem, she would travel around, helping people in an attempt to gain empathy. And it sort of works? No she can't be "fixed" but at the very least leading up to the Final Days, she understood the weight of it all and the value of life. That's why she left deserted the convocation, Hythlodaeus being sacrificed to Zodiark was her last straw.

She was voted in as Azem because of yeah, she's Venat's pupil, but she was also just generally restless and didn't quite belong with the rest of Ancient society. I wouldn't say that Ancient society devalued art because of the fact the seat of Altima exists, but artists are always sort of hard for other people to understand lmao. That's what Venat saw in her; someone who wasn't quite at home with everyone else.

If you asking what the convocation thinks of this, they definitely know something is wrong with her but they think whatever it is actually helps her perform her duty better. Listen, I personally believe that the convocation deals in shades of grey so I don't think they're above exploiting people's mental problems for the betterment of the star. At the very least, they're not above exploiting people in general bc why the hell is Elidibus so young.

Given all that I've said, she does genuinely care for Emet Selch and Hyth to some extent because they help her fit in. That sounds kinda mean and it is on some level, but they also act as her anchor. Venat too, Lucifer has big time mommy issues and Venat kind of filled that void.

As for how Emet Selch remembers her; he doesn't lmao. Surprise! The only version of her that exists in his memory is the idealized version of her and the act she put up around others. It's not that he's unaware of the rather exhaustive list of her problems, he just ignores them. He is the poster boy of "I can fix her" like it's really bad. He genuinely thinks that love can fix her.

Hyth is also in the "I can fix her" camp but in the slightly healthier vein of "You need therapy girlypop" because Hyth doesn't ignore people's problems and actively tries to help them unlike someone.

Anyways, yeah. My WoL kinda hates her lmao so it's an interesting push and pull between Emet and her who have very conflicting views of the same person.

To all of you who have an Azem/Ancient design for your WoL/FFXIV OC: I wish you a very can I see them and tell me their names/lore.

[allastoredeer]

Aren't you guys kinda over feminizing Alastor a little bit????? like I get it that we want him to sub/bottom, but aren't you guys doing the same thing you hate that people do with Lucifer???? Like Alastor to me would never wear a dress? unless like he's joking or something??

....Alastor wore a nun outfit....out of the two, he's canonically worn a dress.

If you're going just by the show--no headcanons, no fanon, no tropes, no fan-art--Alastor has exhibited more fem-like qualities, has acted more feminine, than Lucifer ever has. I'd go as far to say that Lucifer is actually pretty masculine in the show, he just happens to have a pretty face.

And I mean, we don't know if Lucifer would wear a dress either. He's only ever worn pants, shirt, and a jacket, we have no evidence that he would wear a dress. But people like to put him in them anyway because of ✨vibes✨ - which I totally get. Vibes are important. It's not like I don't think Lucifer wouldn't wear a dress. I totally think he would and he'd rock it.

As for Alastor only ever wearing a dress for a joke, I definitely agree, but I think that guy would do anything for the bit. He'll do whatever it takes to get the last laugh. He trolls for the sake of trolling. He's a menace. But it's not like he wore the nun outfit as a joke, it was more of a manipulation tactic when you think about it. He's as faithful as a nun 🙏 see how faithful he is, Charlie? He'll never lead you astray.

I love Alastor's masculine and feminine sides. He does both so well. If I have been leaning more into feminine Alastor recently, well, it could be on account that I haven't come across a lot of content of him being feminine, and make the content you wanna see, right?

But thing is, I don't think we have been over-feminizing Alastor, at least not to the extent that Lucifer has been feminized, in my opinion. I mean, Lucifer has been feminized to the point that he's--in some cases, not in all cases--unrecognizable from the show. Whereas with Alastor, at most, I've been posting gifs from the show of him being his girlypop self. Something's not mathing, because it's not adding up. These two things feel very different.

Tell me if I'm wrong, cuz I very well might be, but I'm getting the vibes that this is going back to Alastor's ego being the reason he wouldn't wear or act in a specific way.

I just don't see how his ego would stop him from wearing a dress. It's not like he has anything against feminine clothes or attributes, nor do we have any evidence at all that he would be against it. If anything, I get the vibes that he appreciates and respects femininity more than masculinity. I don't see why he would be against being in a dress, or appearing feminine, when he's done both in the show.

It smells of misogyny. My boy is many things, but a misogynist he ain't.