#while for usopp lying is just surface level of believing in something when he trusts his own feelings enough
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It still amazes me the number of people who see the juxtaposition between Nami and Usopp during Wano and their fight against Ulti as "Nami's devotion to Luffy is unmatched, unlike Usopp's" when she isn't able to say he won't be the king of the pirates but Usopp is telling her to lie.
I think most people don't have in mind, either, that Usopp isn't the one being directly asked. He is looking out for Nami and begging her to lie to keep her alive because he is scared to death they might lose her for something as insignificant as lying. For him, lying is a form of survival and it is not that big of a deal because he trusts Luffy enough to tell Nami to lie about her feelings. It is something that will only stay between them because he knows it is better to lie than to die and Luffy would want it that way too.
And that doesn't mean he isn't loyal to Luffy or his dream. He is just looking out for Nami's safety. And as I said-- He isn't being asked directly, either. It is easier to tell others to lie about something of the sort than to do it yourself, and if the roles were reversed I personally think he'd have the most awful of times with it too.
Nami refuses to say Luffy won't become the king of the pirates because for her, even if lying has gotten her out of messes, she puts her trust and loyalty in Luffy before her own instincts of survival because lying is what got her to push them away when they first met and this is the one thing she can't lie about because it would hurt more than death.
Then again, I think she would do the same exact thing Usopp did if she wasn't being the one asked. It is the whole point of the scene, actually. They both know the most rational thing is to lie so the one witnessing the scene will always be cold-headed about it, but the one having to lie is the one suffering the bitter realization of how lying about this and saying it out loud is way harder than it seems from an outsider's perspective.
So I am tired of seeing people criticizing Usopp for his decision during the fight against Ulti as if it were that easy for him to see Nami being about to get killed if she doesn't lie. Sorry for the guy to actually want to protect the people he loves instead of letting her be reckless and basically kill herself freely for telling a truth even Luffy would tell her to lie about if it meant living.
#i am very intense about this scene actually#and usopp haters are so annoying when it comes to this#as if nami wouldn't have done the same if the roles were reversed#they're often on the same page when it comes to survival except for this one time and i think it's because they're not on the same situatio#and also i think nami has a harder time verbalizing these things because she is very vocal abt her trust in luffy#but usopp's trust in luffy is something they know for a fact and he knows that lying wouldn't change that#but i think too that he would've done the same as nami in her situation#and even if he hadn't. he is way more logical when it comes to these things than her#nami makes her beliefs visible and loud while usopp keeps them to himself mostly and i think she needs to say it out loud for it to be real#while for usopp lying is just surface level of believing in something when he trusts his own feelings enough#YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN??? i am not crazy#anyway usopp haters i don't like you you're the weakest link and nami would hate you#one piece#usopp#cat burglar nami#wano arc
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