#which is hilarious because if you want horror with christian thematic fuckery shounen and seinen are ripe with it
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rivalcobalt · 2 years ago
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@naoreco DUDE I KNOW... I also can't imagine copying off of ons and not taking mikayuu when that's the one thing that made most fans have any kind of interest in it in the first place, but, yknow, obviously I'm very biased on that
Imo all the characters are way less complex than what ons accomplishes within s1, which is... yeah. Ons is really not winning any awards for its character writing (and while it admittedly has had some moments/details/concepts I love, those aren't executed well most of the time either)
The minor characters definitely have it the worst though. At least the squad kids in ons early on have likable personalities and backstories and we have some idea of what motivates them and their group dynamic; for the most part, we never learn much of anything about who the other kids in The Watch really are or where they came from, let alone attempting to give them personal struggles. It felt like they were given labels for race and gender/sexuality and a visual description to show "how cool it is that they're queer/poc" (disclaimer: I am saying this as a gay trans mixed guy) and about 1 personality trait. I think if the author had used half of the time spent describing gore to flesh out the characters more, it would've improved the depth of the story a lot
This is by far not the first time an English work has copied a Japanese work and was praised for originality, but "gay trans YA novel rips off mediocre gay vampire shounen" has to be conceptually the funniest and yet there still seem to be 0 google results about it
#note 2: i even /like/ gore! but character writing is way more fundamentally necessary imho#ons#hell followed with us#mine#also hello yoichi kin... fellow ons kinnie. you understand my pain#also btw yes i know a bunch of things ons does are very tropey or genre typical for shounen i didnt really state that clearly in hindsight#esp when youre pulling directly from dvmn that tends to be inevitable#but early ons is way too concerned with hitting every shounen trope it can#i just included everything whether it was a common trope or not cause even if it is its like. i think he still got it from ons in this case#iirc this was the only anime he had on that list#which is hilarious because if you want horror with christian thematic fuckery shounen and seinen are ripe with it#once again all this one bitchs fault o7#the alc burning down also made me think of a similar plot point in scott westerfields uglies but its been way too long since i read that#for me to confidently say anything about it#it was a massively impactful ya book on my generation-ish though (i was 8 when i got into it and ajw is probably a few years older than me)#so given this... wouldnt be surprised#if anyone wants to weigh in on it#i think me being 8 was about when pretties had just come out? mabe specials was out but definitely not extras until a few years after#i should really go back and reread them now that im. yknow. not 8#that said a lot of the fundamental concepts of dystopia and societal & beauty industry criticism did have a lot of impact on me even then
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