#which is ''uwu everyone deserves forgiveness and youre mean if you don't forgive. everyone was just sad!''
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i dont wanna sound like a person thats like “if a character is mean then theyre written poorly” but truly what makes or breaks a villain to me is whether or not youre supposed to find them complex and well intentioned deep down and they obviously arent
#idk what it is abt dr connal from reborn tbh bc like. TECHNICALLY the game doesnt try to say he was a well meaning person#or that his tragic backstory inherently means he was good deep down or anything#i think part of what ruins him is just his entire character just being made up for shock value and depth was forced on him out of nowhere#and also that multiple characters use him as a way to say ''uwu everyone deserves forgiveness and trust no one deserves what he went through#i mean like. i LIKE vengeful villains. i like characters who are evil out of revenge or pettiness#and have vicious acts of evil that solidify them as an antagonist#and yes i do like villains that are well intentioned deep down and arent just static villains who were born evil or something#but like... idk connal doesnt feel like that he feels like a character that youre meant to find compelling and tragic even if hes a villain#but bc hes a literal child abuser who is heavily implied to have SA'd one of his child victims all attempts to paint him as tragic are hollo#really reborn overall is a game that desperately wants to portray itself as deep and complex and mature#but in actuality is just pretentious and shallow with a moral that aligns itself more withgoddamn barney the dinosaur#which is ''uwu everyone deserves forgiveness and youre mean if you don't forgive. everyone was just sad!''#echoed voice#sorry for the reborn posts. eve is replaying it so its on the mind
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I have two of them
1: Steven x Peter isn't that bad honestly. Imo at least. It doesn't deserve the amount of hating it gets. 'But Steven ruined Peter's life by sending him to become a phone guy' the games go out of their way to show and even directly tell you that phone guys are slaved people who are brought back from the dead and forced to do as their programming says. Steven isn't an expert or anything he's just as slaved as the others were. And while he does say 'I hope u can forgive me for this' which kinda means that he knew it was bad? But honestly I still don't blame it on him fully. From my understanding phone guys are only capable of going 'against' (for lack of better word) their programming only if they have some humanity or memories when they were alive, which I dont think Steven does, in both dsaf1 & 3 hes fully convinced that he's Scott Cawthon and only remembers that he isnt after literally being forced to. 'they hate eachother' I've replayed all the dsaf games and I can't find anything confirming that. Steven obviously regrets what he did and wants to make it right to not just Peter, but everyone else as well. Peter and Steven don't interact much, but Peter hasn't said anything mean about Steven once. The only thing that implies this is Peter's line of Jack saving even those who don't deserve it. But honestly he never said it was about Steven. For all we know he could had been referring to Dave or hell even himself. 'Its boss x employee which would be toxic by realistic standards' ok I see your point but why compere realistic standards to fucking dsaf? You know what else would be incredible toxic by realistic standards too? Davesport. But the fandoms not ready for that talk.
Speaking of davesport
2: Davesport is hellaaaaaaa overrated. I get why people ship it. It has much potential. But honestly it's the only thing the fandom talks about and Im getting tired of it. Where's my Steven contact? Where's my Peter or Dee contact? Where's the phone guys, Henry, Jacktrap or hell even Davetrap contact? Where's the angst connect on the Kennedy siblings? The only endings this fandom talks about are like the Gnarly Endings even tho I think the good ending and pure evil endings in dsaf2 are much better better than the gnarly end. Contact of the legacy routes are almost non existent ESPECIALLY on the legacy route of 2 and when there's is. It's davesport angst. How about we make angst about how Jack literally kills his motherfucking sister that he literally died for in an even more curler dsaf3 legacy route. I also hate how much the fandom mischaracterizes it. No they aren't uwu gay boys, no they don't have a perfect relationship. Their relationship is fucking unhealthy, flawed and bittersweet. (No Im not saying davesport is a pr*ship don't accuse me of that, although it's an unhealthy relationship it's not an ab**ive one). Dave literally stalks Jack, he has cameras on his house for the real Fredbear's sake. Yes I know they're treated like jokes, yes I know that Jack doesn't seem to mind, yes I know that Dave & Jack ARE capable of being in a somewhat normal relationship, with Flipside Dave at least. But still that's not healthy. They are literally willing to kill eachother if they're opposite! Those are two dead courses that have been stripped almost completely out of all their humanity thanks to that pink fuck Henry. Obviously they won't be sweet and caring to eachother or anyone really. If you like Davesport at the very least actually protey it correctly.
This is coming from someone who doesn't even ship Steveter (that's what I'll call the ship) and loves Davesport btw
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Sorry I know we don't know eachother- but how do you know scarletarosa and melias-cimitere saying the truth? They seem to be a cult, and aside from that I catched scarletarosa lying a bunch of times, she even called herself lilith in the past and a succubi under lucifer and lilith, plus melias was reported preying on underage people, I could add more but I can't remember at the moment, sorry.
Besides it sketchy how they tyring to isolate you from your friends/family etc. so you will rely on them and their belief alone..
Idk if anything I'm gonna say will be taken out of context or not since that's what the lynchmob likes to do.
"They seem to be a cult"
"Seem" is not a valid enough proof to say sth like that about someone else. Never have I been asked for money (like cults do), never have I been told to preach and then go 100% silent as if I'd be wipped off the face of the earth, they have not pampered me and then threatened me with any kind of violence, never have they sent evil spirits my way and so on. Whoever says they're a cult don't know how real cults work. They have helped people get away from real cults and have a normal life.
"I catched scarletarosa lying a bunch of times, she even called herself lilith in the past and a succubi under lucifer and lilith"
Sincerely, never have I seen sth like this so no comment.
"Plus melias was reported preying on underage people"
Again, in my most sincere experience, never have I encountered anything of the sort. I have minors in my family and nothing has ever been asked about them or said, and no attempts have ever been made.
"Besides it sketchy how they tyring to isolate you from your friends/family etc. so you will rely on them and their belief alone.."
Idk anything about this and am not speaking on their behalf, but, say, if you'd be living in an extremely toxic enviornment/family, wouldn't an advice to move out be a good thing? It might be hard, but it would be worth it. Everyone doesn't deserve forgiveness too, even if they are family members. If you have "friends" who lead you down a the path of drugs and overall self destruction then cutting ties with such people will only benifit you, no? I live on my own and have toxic family members that should be avoided(and Melias knows this) and he hasn't told me to cut ties completely bc it's my choice to do so or not, and I have to think with my own head what to do with my life. I've been told many times to not rely on them, but to find out truths/stuff myself bc they don't want to be "right all the time", MEANING you have to find out things, see things for yourself, talk to the deities yourself(and not search shit up on wikipedia and take it as the ultimate truth), to make an opinion of your own on how the physical and astral world works. They can show you the door to better yourself, know things, but that's all, what you do is up to you and they fully support this. If someone is a fucking snowflake when someone is a bit stern towards them sometimes(bc people tend to do stupid shit and sometime a stern voice is necessary to knock some common snese in the head, not lovey-dovey flower-suggarcoating things) then maybe the lhp aint for them, js. The lhp is not a "uwu" path ffs.
I'm in no way deffending anyone, I'm just using my fucking brain. Every response, every comment I've seen basically states either "someone said" or "my friend said that someone else-" which are invalid statements. Also, have you seen any real evidence like exchanged text messages(screenshots) and such for these accusations to be verified as true? I haven't and the hate mob who have made disgusting posts hasn't provided any real evidence and neither have these "I heard someone say-" people. If you accuse someone of sth so serious this type of evidence is extremely necessary, especially in interrigations. A dumbass mobster( not gonna call out people just yet) once said they believe the anon messages just bc "assault" is mentioned completely ignoring the absence of evidence. Make it make sense.
So my point is, basically, if there's no evidence then all this is nothing more than a rumor which too many people who cannot think for themselves fall for and spread misinformation and serious false accusations which is an extremly disgusting behaviour. It's been more than a half a year(?) and nothing has been provided.
I have never gone through anything like this and Melias has never used anything against me. And I do not believe I'm more special or less special to be used or preyed upon or whatever the fuck. Both have helped me in the past with things so I can live normally now.
Let me just say one thing - if you're friends with sick fucks who'd go and accuse someone of vile things with 0 evidence, death curse them and do worse just bc their opinions differ from one another..you need better friends, bc the moment you'll start thinking for yourself, they'll do the same thing to you too. These horrid people(the accusers) aint your friends, but wolves in sheep clothing. They'll get what's in store for them, eventually and I noticed some one of them faced a little bit of consequences for these actions, but they're retarded enough to not notice lol Their moms sure would be "proud" of their kids knowing they're being close to being murderers.
Edit: Let me just add that the people you're being fed this hate from are extreme racists and people who practice/worship what they don't really believe actually exists irl. Let that sink in a bit. I've cought them lackin' many times, but their culty people don't seem to have neither eyes or a non-smoothbrain to see it.
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i've been streaming THH every Friday on Twitch with my Manager Bunny, who is Japanese (like from Japan) (i say this so much it's almost a meme in itself, but i always want to make it clear to those who follow me for Silly Text Post Edits and don't know anything about me). we talk Localization stuff all the time.
anyway: Danganronpa has some funny glitches in trans/local, i agree. those are definitely the ones i highlight the most in DR1. on the other hand, we were just coming off of the Rice Ball Donut Era, so i forgive it. i think if it was localized today they'd probably have kept at least Idol for Sayaka, maybe even Doujin Author for Hifumi, but getting westerners to understand "gyaru" in any capacity is...tough. "gyaru" definitely tells you WAY more about Junko though. it packs a whole punch. i have more opinions on it but i won't get into that here!
Taka's i have mixed feelings about. Hiro's kind of eliminates the idea that he's (iirc) actually supposed to be kind of a shaman, so there's kind of some comedy removed there. good old Toki's backstory is just funny overall because of the way Romance Novels are considered total trash in the West
some good THH localizations IMO:
Hifumi's way of speaking in Japanese i'm told is "stereotypical samurai" which is often associated with "stereotypical weeb," though he has a sort of "UWU" voice. this was localized well and performed well by Lucien Dodge (Keebs! Yuma Kokohead!) as a proper, pseudo-academic professor-like mode (with an UWU tenor still)
Sakura talks like a princess in JP, and this is presented in her deliberate, careful dialogue in EN, though it removes a bit of comedy when she gets mad
Genocide Jack's nicknames for people (Cherry for Chihiro etc) are great and made my Manager Bunny laugh (she had only played unofficial translations before we played it together)
Manager Bunny also says our Celeste is better hands down, no contest
i'm biased and this is Super Minor but i love Hina as a nickname for Aoi. to me as a Westerner it tells us a lot about her athletic background (though the intent was probably to give Western people an "easier" name to say)
other game notes:
danganronpa 2 has some hilarious and charming translation glitches (Akane calling money "Benjamins", Hajime not being able to read stuff that isn't in English, Nagito pointing out what things mean in Japanese, Fuyuhiko spelling out his name for us)
UDG was the pinnacle of localization in DR (IMO)
and as much as everyone disliked Summer Camp as a game, its scenes were wonderfully localized - the person who came up with Miu's nicknames for DR1/2/UDG characters deserves the US presidency ("Bigcockoyeah" for Byakuya kills me EVERY SINGLE TIME)
if you want the real messed up one, i'm told it's v3. Manager says it's downright awful and undercuts a ton of characters, as well as making Angie...like that
apologies for hijacking your post with my autism again OP but you always post about awesome stuff that Hits My Hyperfixations!
I complained earlier about Byakuya's needlessly wordy title of Ultimate Heir Wealth-Inheriting Loinfruit, but I actually need to take a moment to complain about title localizations in DR1 some more.
Toko is the Ultimate Writing Prodigy.
Why not just say, "Ultimate Writer"? The word Prodigy isn't doing shit in that title. All Ultimates are prodigies. The whole concept of Ultimates or Super High-School Levels is to accredit child prodigies.
At least it's better than her Japanese title, the SHSL Literary Girl. Really? What even is that? Hifumi gets to be SHSL Doujin Author, and Toko's over here saddled with fucking Literary Girl. I'd be screaming down everyone's throat in every conversation too if I was the class literary girl.
Hina's Ultimate Swimming Pro title is fine but again I'm not sure why they didn't just say Swimmer?
Sayaka and Junko's title switches at least make a lot of sense. Sayaka is the SHSL Idol and Junko's the SHSL Gyaru, both of which are Japanese cultural references that could be lost on American audiences.
Idols and pop stars are close enough conceptually that it's an easy jump to make. Gyaru's a bit trickier to translate since so much of gyaru culture is about over-the-top westernized girly fashion; Fake tans and blonde dye jobs and long painted fake nails and the like. Over in the west that's just, like, fashion. So making her Ultimate Fashionista loses some of the intended artificiality of her persona but gets the point across.
There isn't really a Westernized concept for "purposefully appropriating a Western fashion aesthetic in order to stand out from everyone else". So the SHSL Gyaru was always doomed to be a little bit lost in translation.
Similar with Taka. Taka's the SHSL Public Morals Committee Member, which is another Japanese cultural reference. A public morals committee is a disciplinary organization made up of students whose job is to police the behavior of the other students.
"Ultimate Moral Compass" kinda works, but makes it sound like he's more just. Like. Incorruptibly Lawful Good, rather than the specific thing that he represents. Personally, I probably would have gone with Ultimate Hall Monitor.
Ultimate Clairvoyant is a suitable localization for SHSL Fortune Teller, if lacking a bit of specificity. SHSL Gang Leader became Ultimate Biker Gang Leader because while the bikes are fairly standard for Japanese gangs (to my understanding), there are different kinds of American gangs so the clarifier is helpful.
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