#which idk why disney made them that way if their biggest demographic is young girls
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Jazz Fenton is by far the best older sister I’ve come across in cartoon media and blows pretty much every 2000s-era Disney Channel big sister figure out of the water for the sole reason and sheer fact she actually loves and cares about her younger brother, isn’t self-absorbed, and doesn’t treat him like total fucking trash.
#danny phantom#i just finished my brother's keeper#and while she might come across as overbearing jazz isn't a turbo dick to danny#she is THE backbone of the fenton family#and while maddie isn't exactly a bad parental figure she's definitely not putting in the same amount of care & legwork#that jazz is showing to danny#i wouldn't even put jazz on the same level as a disney channel big sister#b/c even if those girls *do* care about their little siblings at the end of the show they still act like Jerks With A Heart of Gold#which idk why disney made them that way if their biggest demographic is young girls#that would be in the age bracket that would necessitate positive role models#or at least characters that go through that development that make them become positive role models#is jazz overprotective? a little. but at least she's doing it out of a place of love for danny & concern for his welfare#even before she learned that he became a halfa#it also probably helps that she's like this *because* she's studying therapy and psychology#so it's already in her nature to want to help others w/ their problems#but at the same time also to give them time & space so that when they're ready to talk she knows she can be there to do what she can to help#armi watches danny phantom
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Why do you think Kamala Khan, Miles Morales and Sam Alexander were given their own Teen Titans-equivalent team (the Champions) rather than simply having them join the Young Avengers, who were already popular in their own right?
Bunch of reasons!
Age bracket. Miles and Kamala were introduced in their early teens and had reached their mid teens when the Champions were formed; Young Avengers were by this point college aged.
Tone. The Young Avengers had a long sprawling soap-opera type team history that encouraged relatively meandering interpersonal drama focused storylines, where the team was often its own biggest problem to a higher degree than is usually true of superhero teams. Champions ran to a much faster, punchier narrative that could be fit around the fact that some members had other books they were mains in. And their concept was to do cleaner heroing less tied down by baggage than the Avengers, who'd just shat themselves spectacularly with Civil War II, while the Young Avengers are literally a team about baggage despite none of them initially being real legacy heroes or even having met the Avengers they were riffing on.
Geography. Miles is from Brooklyn and Kamala is from Jersey City and afaik the Champions operated primarily around the greater metro area. It would be weird to write the Young Avengers like that, but disruptive to find a way to keep involving those two when the story didn't stay put. Sam didn't have this limitation, and neither did Viv or afaik Amadeus, but they weren't the big draws.
Marketing. The point of putting Miles and Kamala in the same book, with other heroes their age, is they're the hot new thing people are into, in particular people who were not already part of the Comic Book Purchasing demographic. Young Avengers content is catered foremost to nerds who have been engaged with comics for 20 years; Champions was meant to work as an entry-level title.
Related to all of the above, writing logistics would have been such a pain, trying to satisfy multiple audiences with different stakes in the title and allow Miles and Kamala to headline while also being the babies of a group where they didn't really fit in. Awful idea. Editorial was so correct.
In summary: Did you ever see that short Titans run I believe just after Flashpoint, where DC put Damian on a team mainly staffed with characters from the NTT era for nostalgia cred, so you know people around Dick's age cohort, and had Damian lead it and made characters like Beast Boy happy about being micromanaged by this rude little twerp? Unreadable.
My question was how Marvel had the balls to launch the Champions into a market where they also had a teen-team-style West Coast Avengers book out, the new Wasp running an all-girl team, and a new Runaways book. Actually idk which came first but that's not the point. Like four very different narratives being done but it was still four youth team titles at once, way to splinter your base. Was Disney just running tests on market saturation?
#ask#hoc est meum#Anonymous#comics#marvel#the champions#i feel like ironheart was skipping between Nadia and the Champions a lot?#i do wonder what the numbers were on these#Pretty sure Champions was still running#when Teddy and Billy got married in space and settled down to run an interstellar empire together#like you do not want to overpopulate your book with characters#whose stories can't interlock smoothly#young avengers#i really don't think of myself as a marvel fan but i got some receipts huh#funniest member of the Champions definitely Young Scott#i didn't mention this in the post#because it seemed too obvious#but Young Avengers were broken up at the time#like you'd have had to get the team back together to put them on it
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An even if she sometime overprotective that just show how much she live her brother. After all you most times would not be overprotective of someone if did not love and care for them. This is why I love Jazz so much. She does not just say she love her brother but put said words into action.
Jazz Fenton is by far the best older sister I’ve come across in cartoon media and blows pretty much every 2000s-era Disney Channel big sister figure out of the water for the sole reason and sheer fact she actually loves and cares about her younger brother, isn’t self-absorbed, and doesn’t treat him like total fucking trash.
#danny phantom#i just finished my brother's keeper#and while she might come across as overbearing jazz isn't a turbo dick to danny#she is THE backbone of the fenton family#and while maddie isn't exactly a bad parental figure she's definitely not putting in the same amount of care & legwork#that jazz is showing to danny#i wouldn't even put jazz on the same level as a disney channel big sister#b/c even if those girls *do* care about their little siblings at the end of the show they still act like Jerks With A Heart of Gold#which idk why disney made them that way if their biggest demographic is young girls#that would be in the age bracket that would necessitate positive role models#or at least characters that go through that development that make them become positive role models#is jazz overprotective? a little. but at least she's doing it out of a place of love for danny & concern for his welfare#even before she learned that he became a halfa#it also probably helps that she's like this *because* she's studying therapy and psychology#so it's already in her nature to want to help others w/ their problems#but at the same time also to give them time & space so that when they're ready to talk she knows she can be there to do what she can to hel#armi watches danny phantom
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