#which i STILL HAVE NOT POSTED LOL. they retcon too much...mostly frank...and i never got around to making them fit the narrative
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xxstaystillxx · 1 year ago
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Miss you, hope you're doing alright 💜 --🦢
i am doing ridiculously fantastic thank you for checking up on me <3
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ziracona · 4 years ago
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re: the evan discussion and specifically how you mentioned how good and chill the fandom writes him; its so infuriating to watch people woobify the murderous capitalist and see the sympathetic (of course, as you said, POC and women) characters paid dust or straight up turned evil, and its so good to see someone finally speak on it. though, i do remember before the archives (like 2016-17 DBD), his backstory was retconned like 3 times. maybe thats the reason for the discrepancy in how hes seen?
Yeah, I really feel you anon. I’m glad you were able to find some commiseration with me. It’s like, I still would still hate it on principle, but it wouldn’t be so grating to me if just either like everyone got the same treatment, or it was less wide spread, but it is so tiring and not fun to see the rich white estate owner sadistic serial killer get woobified or a weird blanket pass very constantly while at the same time like, actually never did a thing wrong Lisa Sherwood is sitting covered in cobwebs in the corner full of pre-existing potential no one is making bank on. 
According to a buddy of mine, it’s largely due to a fic that got popular that wrote him that way? But I know little of the old Trapper retcons so that could be a thing too. I’m like, a medium-old dbd fan, lol, I wasn’t here since the beginning, but I’ve been here a while now. Retcons and off the cuff comments made by disagreeing devs have def been behind wildly different takes before, although some heckn weird stuff like Entity Ace just seems to come out of the pitch black ether itself. (Also leave my boy Ace alone TuT he never did a thing wrong. Well. P much lol.) Sometimes huge things really can start with like, one joke a person tells, so who even knows with a lot of fan stuff. 
There are a lot of things like this that do grate on me though. Like for real, I know I’ve said this before, but uh, not super chill that when the OG fandom decided to arbitrarily assign an OG killer to ship with an OG survivor, Claudette Morel got the deformed & feral one? (& Jake just got no one back then. Didn’t even get Sally, when she was added 4th. We can all do that character math ourselves pretty easy I think, and it’s. Yeah.) To this day, it’s still one of the biggest and only ships for her that get any attention, despite her being an OG and a wildly popular character. Nothing against Max, I like him and am very sympathetic to his backstory and actually would enjoy writing him more, but that’s still not super chill. (Also poor heckn Max. He gets so infantilized in portrayals often, as if his disabilities give him the mind of a child? which is still one of the biggest stereotypes for disabled people in media. : / ).  And like, my good boy Joey has so much potential as a character, but appears in anything like maybe 1/20th as much as Frank (I like Frank, just where’s the justice in those #s?), and tho he’s chiller/nicer & like 2 or more years younger than Frank in canon, when he does get time, tends to get treated as more aggressive by far than his OG portrayal, while Frank often is jokey/light or woobified or twinkified. Joey also usually gets drawn super jacked and taller/bigger than his model, when he’s pretty close to the exact same size Frank is, and uh, neither of those trait interpretations alone but especially both together are not super chill. 
Side note to end on bc this makes it sound like all I do is stare at the parts of this fandom that annoy me, I get fired up, but I wouldn’t be here if that was true. There’s so much amazing stuff here too. And like, man, I really love and appreciate it when I see artists and writers and fans portraying or even just having a great/passionate time talking about the characters, who aren’t like that. Which does happen. A lot. With maybe not as many people, but I’ve been lucky enough to find some super cool ones on here and in other places. It’s such a breath of fresh air and always makes me feel really good after. : ) (Also like shoutout to people who loved Julie pre-archives-spotlight? Bc she mostly was totally ignored, and I was always so happy when I saw somone who was like “This is not fair” and loved her so she wasn’t forgotten.) I’ve seen some really great work and follow some amazing dbd blogs I have and will keep on appreciating so much. If you’re reading this, whenever amount later doesn’t matter, and you make dbd stuff--not just like artistic content but including just gushy posts about characters you like and have fun going off about thoughts and feelings too--for one of the more forgotten female/disabled/poc list, I appreciate you. They deserve it. You’re doin’ the lord’s work. It’s a very happy thing to see. <3
#long post#ask#anonymous#also! this by no means means that every time I see someone who like--likes Evan as a chill dude do I go >:-[ 'YOU' or smth.#I am not a fan of seing shitty rich white serial killer boys getting loved and excused of all evil deeds but those not the same thing. & I'm#Not the HC  police. It's just overwhelming bc it's unequal and so wide spread. but I got buddies I know like him and I know you are chill#people w fun opinons and aren't like--only liking the mean white capitalist killer man. it ain't like that. I know y'all cool. Just it's#that with /many/ ---very definitely not all! times I see this it goes hand in hand w the rest of it. but they aren't like. conjoined#correlation is not = causality and I am super aware. y'all I love.#is very infuriating that so many of the white serial killer men get woobified or hall passes for murder while the others gather dust or get#not chill interpretations. I am not delusional and blaming every person who likes one of the popular dudes for this tho#this is over explained now but I wanted to make sure I said it bc I get really fired up about stuff and don't want any of my friends or#something to think I like--think they suck for liking Mr. Macmillan. very much not the case#dead by daylight#a lot of people create their own version of a character for one reason or another that's p divorced from the OG concept too. which also#isn't the same as a blanket pass and such for a character (like a total au take and such vs apologisting)#all that said tho the nasty-ass rich white serial killer asshole apologisting & blatant racism I /do/ see makes me livid
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