#whereas Hannibal would eventually go 'eat the rude'

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Hi ! I am sorry I’m actually just writing to commiserate with you about the devil judge, I saw your post about how everyone just puts everything on Yohan and I agree sooo much, it’s infuriating to me, how Min Jung Ho just like immediately says it’s his fault he got attacked, and don’t get me started on the fucking priest, what the hell bro? He was a child, a lonely, weird, abused child, not the fucking devil. Seriously it is getting me crazy, it feels like the only person who sees him as a human being is Gaon. I know a lot of people have made a parallel between tdj and Hannibal, and like, I really disagree ? I understand where it comes from, but Hannibal and Yohan are vastly different characters, and the whole characterization of Yohan to me feels like the writers are saying that while every one thinks this guy is the devil, he is very far from it, whereas Hannibal is definitely a monster, and his relationship with will is monstrous as well (and very captivating don’t get me wrong). What do you think about that parallel ? It just rubs me the wrong way but I don’t know if I put it into words correctly. Sorry for the really long ask btw 😅

Hi! thanks for the question. I completely understand what you’re saying. I hope I can answer this well because it’s really so complex. Sorry if this turns into a whole dissertation essay, Hannibal is like my favorite show ever.

Yea I can see a lot of people draw comparisons to TDJ and Hannibal saying things like “tdj is just Hannibal in a courtroom” or “tdj is Hannibal without the cannibalism” lol. I think what people are mostly looking at is the dynamic between Yohan/GaOn and Hannibal/Will and how they’re similar to some degree.

Gahan and Hannigram have a similar type of tension with each other. The difference is Ga On already had suspicions about Yohan from the very beginning and was very antagonistic towards him. Will, on the other hand, initially thought Hannibal was just psychiatrist and sought out his help. It wasn’t until a little later that he started suspecting him and grew to understand his true dark nature.

Yohan/Hannibal— wealthy socialite, sociopathic tendencies, hiding a secret, wearing a “person suit” (more on this later) to fool those around them, misanthrope and thinks humans are beneath them, thinks no one in the world could possibly understand them until they find the one person who does and they can only show their love through violence and manipulation.

Ga On/Will— sensitive, empathetic, intelligent

Will is first introduced as this tortured genius who has an empathetic ability to recreate scenes. In short, he can vividly construct the mentality of criminals and psychopaths. Being able to step into a darkness like that, you have to eventually lose a part of yourself and start sympathizing with the monsters and that’s what eventually happens to him. They’re both capable of murder. Ga On was ready to kill the con artist for his parents if SH hadn’t intervened. They have a moral compass in their corner to keep them grounded (Jack Crawford for Will, Soo Hyun for Ga On—I won’t even mention Min Junho because the guy is sus). They’re both fighting against an internal darkness

Gahan/Hannigram— THE HOMOEROTIC TENSION.

“I want you to admit what you are.”

“Must I denounce myself as a monster, while you still refuse to see the one growing inside you.”

Actual lines from Hannibal. I can’t even mention all the lines that could apply to Gahan (I could hear these words being exchanged between them). Both Hannibal and Yohan bring out the best, and worst, in their partners. Hannigram is toxic as hell. Hannibal would go through all kinds of sick shenanigans to get Will on his side, Yohan has said he would do bad things to get Ga On on his side. Gahan’s relationship is one that starts out tense and mistrustful, then grew to curiousity, comaderie, now Yohan has come to rely on Ga On without him even realizing it or admitting it to himself.

“No one can be fully aware of another human being unless we love them.”

This is obvious. Hannibal is a cannibal, Yohan is not.

I was rooting for Will to finally succumb to his darkness and join Hannibal’s side because he found the truest version of himself in Hannibal. I have different expectations for Ga On because my sweet summer child is more different from Will, he’s not as drawn to darkness as Will is (in the recent episode, he was so horrified at the blood on his hands). Will in the end basks in it.

I agree with you about Hannibal, there’s really no denying that he is a monster. And there’s really no explanation for why he is the way he is; he wasn’t abused (as far as we know) but he was orphaned and left to raise his beloved sister (who died) and later became a serial killer. Yohan, on the other hand, was an abandoned and abused child who only had the love of his older brother. It’s no wonder that he puts up a tough exterior because all throughout his life, people have made assumptions about him without trying to get to know him. I mentioned the “person suit” earlier, this is a mask Hannibal puts on to blend into the human world. He carefully built his life and reputation as a surgeon/psychiatrist and socialite, presenting himself as the sociable doctor while living his philosophy of eating the rude on the other side on the veil.

Yohan’s person suit is a defense mechanism. Whereas Hannibal is using his suit to hide a monstrous nature, Yohan uses it to hide his vulnerabilities. He’s wearing this suit to blend in with the elite he hates, but underneath that exterior is just a lonely and misunderstood man (who’s actually a softie in reality)

Finally, I think these two shows don’t really have a whole lot in common besides the homoerotic tension. Gahan are vastly different from Hannigram. Yohan isn’t a true monster/devil while Hannibal is. Will turned his back on his moral compass and succumbed to the darkness, while Ga On can’t seem to let go of his moral compass and he doesn’t desire to become a monster.

Sooo ultimately…

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aloe, angelica, hydrangea, magnolia, poppy, rose

@blessedxsilence gets a novel from mandi // answers beneath the cut

ALOE: how does your muse handle grief ? ANGELICA: where does your muse draw inspiration in life ?   what motivates them ? HYDRANGEA: how much does your muse value communication in their relationships with others ?  are they prone to being misunderstood ? MAGNOLIA: describe your muse’s relationship with nature   &   the natural world POPPY: what comforts your muse ? ROSE: how much does your muse value other people ?   do they wish to have many friends ,   lovers ,   and/or associates ?   are they an easy person to love ?

ALOE

how does your muse handle grief ?

          This actually stems into a larger head canon that I will eventually write on Hannibal’s relationship with death as an individual, as a therapist, and as a killer. In short, Hannibal doesn’t handle grief. He can tell you the grieving process, what it looks like in other people, and how he can display the telltale signs of grieving; however, those emotions and expressions are superficial. Hannibal processes grief, and many other overwhelmingly strong emotions as if they are little more than inconvenient stressors.            Though the NBC canon shows Hannibal as killing as a means to stock his refrigerator, it is so much more than that. Cannibalism is a statement of superiority; he eats those that he sees and feels are less than him. In addition, the phrase “eat the rude'' alludes to a moral code associated with the people that he chooses as his victims. Hannibal kills, on the other hand, because it is a stress-reliever. It isn’t a compulsion that drives him, nor is his cannibalism. He kills because he wants to and because he feels good doing it.            With that said, Hannibal would process grief by likely targeting the “source” of his grief. His grief over the loss of his parents is eclipsed because there was no one left to blame, no one left to kill. With Mischa and Grutas, he was prepared to hunt Grutas to the ends of the earth to process that pain. Eating Mischa was a subconscious effort to keep her safe while also unconsciously seeking release from the chains he imagined her holding him back with.            For more information on his relationship with Mischa, take a look at my  head canon on Hannibal and his family. Which I will permalink here when it’s finished. 

ANGELICA

where does your muse draw inspiration in life ?   what motivates them ?

          This question is highly verse/timeline dependent. In short, Hannibal is neurodivergent and has the tendency to hyperfixate on people. You see this with Will Graham in the NBC series, and Clarice Starling in the novels/movies. His inspiration comes from people and an innate desire to see them made into something more beautiful.            Hannibal is an avid behaviorist, and Abraham Maslow’s hierarchy of needs is one that he references for introspection and self reflection even if he doesn’t reference it with his patients. He is motivated by a strict set of rules and personal expectations. Ironically, Hannibal is not a rule breaker, and I would consider his personality alignment as a lawful evil (or a very narcissistic lawful neutral). 

HYDRANGEA

how much does your muse value communication in their relationships with others ?  are they prone to being misunderstood ?

          Hannibal is an excellent listener. Not just in the sense that you can sit down and have a genuine conversation about how something makes you feel or how it impacts you, but he listens to non-verbal expressions as well. In a relationship, he’s extremely attentive and careful even when he sees the relationship as nothing more than a means to an end (like with Alana Bloom in NBC canon). Hannibal values, and I cannot express this enough, one-way communication. He’s an excellent listener, but needs to be cracked open to get that communication to go the other way.            Bedelia makes a point in stating that Hannibal builds walls. Nothing could be more true. Hannibal’s mind is a carefully structured palace designed specifically for the purpose of maintaining memories of people, places, things, and events. His heart is another matter entirely. Hannibal’s heart is a well guarded fortress with battements so high that most people will simply steer clear of them entirely. The architecture does a good job of weeding away the unworthy so Hannibal doesn’t have to do it for himself. If one is brave enough to scale the walls of the citadel, there is still a long journey to the castle.           Hannibal himself makes no effort to keep people away once they make it to the top of the wall, the labyrinth of Hannibal’s past must then be traversed. Three people have waded through the carnage along those paths to make it to the castle at the center.            Bedelia du Maurier. Bedelia saw the carnage and wanted to stay in spite of it. William Graham. Will loved him because of the bloodfest and wanted an active place in it. Clarice Starling. Clarice was never bothered by it in the first place, it was another piece of Hannibal to embrace. 

MAGNOLIA

describe your muse’s relationship with nature   &   the natural world .

          I think it goes without saying that Hannibal sees beauty in all things. In the right setting, he would probably be an avid gardener. Just the thought of him growing rare and beautiful flowers just really sits well with his personal vibe. Nature does a good job at showing people the natural progression of life into death and that death itself is a gift that can be given and made into something that is as beautiful as life itself.           People are innately a part of nature and they give endlessly. 

POPPY

what comforts your muse ?

         As can be imagined, Hannibal finds an immense amount of comfort in cooking. Whereas one might think his comfort would be composing or music in general, those vices occupy a very specific place in his mind palace and are used as means of interpreting and expressing very specific feelings. Hannibal copes with life through music. He is comforted by cooking. Hannibal himself follows very strict personal rules, cooking becomes a sort of... embodiment of some of those rules because of the precise nature that is needed.  Though you still won’t catch him dead baking.  Hannibal enjoys preparing his food, and preparing beautiful food as a means of self-expression and self-transcendence. There is comfort in the routine that is presented by the need to eat, but decadence is in the preparation and presentation. 

ROSE

how much does your muse value other people ?   do they wish to have many friends ,   lovers ,   and/or associates ?   are they an easy person to love ?

         Hannibal has a complex relationship with finding value in other people. The general rule of thumb is that if he perceives someone as ‘less than’ him, he couldn’t be bothered by their existence in the slightest. There are very few people that he considers to be his equal and that equality isn’t defined simply by an intellectual equality. Those he does see as his equal are irreplaceable.            Hannibal doesn’t have many of any of those things, nor does he crave them. Despite the intricacies of his life and the general... extravagance that he surrounds himself with, there is nothing that Hannibal isn’t immediately willing to part with that cannot be carried on his person. When he moves, he builds rooms in his memory palace to commemorate the things that he has to leave behind. People that hold specific meaning to him are trapped inside those rooms where he can visit them. For Will, it’s his office; for Bedelia, it’s the bathtub in Florence; for Clarice, it’s his cell in the Baltimore State Hospital for the Criminally Insane (BSHCI)- though it is important to note that she is on the other side of the glass.           Despite all of his misgivings, Hannibal is very easily to love, almost painfully so. He is everything that you could want or need in your life. Until, of course, you are no longer needed as a part of his.