#when your gf says you need to quit drugs but you addicted to murder

[elistilldoodles]

@vaultgirl2077 and I definitely enjoy killer Kay more than baby Maya does ಠ⌣ಠ

[gayopinion]

What’s wrong with fear street? I liked the trilogy, it seemed well planned out and like,, the only loose end I didn’t quite get was why someone decided to curse sam when the one guy was already cursed cuz like in the trilogy it gets established that like every decade and a half or so only one person needs to be cursed to maintain this one family’s deal with the devil or whatever

Like it was convoluted but t seemed well put together? I’m not asking to argue I’m just like, curious about what you didn’t like I guess >~<

"Oh but the decisions were stupid like the whole blood clothes removal and then painting their fresh clothes with the blood, that one guy doing it on his chest??? Did he want to die? Like oh my god just use something else as a target holy fuck" (2/2)

totally fair question bestie. i'll elaborate in full detail why i thought it was bad. ok spoilers below

totally fine if you enjoyed the movie as i see many others did as well! to each their own of course. i haven't seen much negative feedback on it which i just thought was weird because i really did think it was so cheesy to the point that i just couldn't take it seriously. i expect a lot more from netflix than just high production value and good camerawork.

i'm not really qualified to speak so heavily on the whole backstory bc like idk something something hanged witch something something shadyside town curse. don't remember much. i agree that sam herself doesn't rlly do anything to get cursed? all sam did was get a nosebleed and touch the grave. and idk like why didn't she go crazy until the way end if some people go crazy before they die and then come back? right? weird. and yes weird that ryan is cursed already like did he also touch her grave w blood? 😭

also genuinely where was the realism. where are the parents. where were the coaches and band directors like these high schoolers were on roids or something to be acting so hyped up at a VIGIL no less and no one stopped them? like genuinely in what world. and there was like maybe one scene with overhead ceiling lightning and everything else was flickering creepy vibe. calm down set design like we get it it's a horror movie.

i found deena to be pretty annoying like she was just always saying mean or rude comments for no reason so. like what was her deal. and then her friends get pretty brutally murdered near her and she didn't have any reaction at all to that, never is it acknowledged ?? at least from what i remember??? and then her and sam just get back together and it's framed like thats some cutesy ending story like......? your friends are being slandered in the media for prescription drug addiction after both clearly being murdered in an unrelated way and.... nothing? at least josh stuck up for them in the chat room lol. also when c berman called back again she was so rude like for what sorry someone couldn't answer your call right away ...... literally not their job .

and yes exactly with the decision making...... frustrating to see so much critical thinking lacking. she basically was ready to throw an ice cooler out a window at the car following the school bus which. surely would have fucking killed everyone in the car no joke like? at the speed they were traveling? and then that really really fake looking grass/weed where they crashed the car was oh so goofy. like all around it was forest and leaves and then just a 10x10 patch of fake grass i- lol. when they found the bones there that was so...... spirit halloween decoration on a suburban lawn. like it's been 300 years since she was hung there and her bones are just sitting there? and then when they buried them with peters jacket? why lol. and yes exactly with the blood thing. also when kate was like "deena you're literally ready to let us all die to save sam" she was right and that literally happened, deena essentially sacrificed both her friends to save her ex gf which? she apparently ended on horrific terms with. i would pray to god my friends never pull that shit on me. sam was ready to sacrifice herself movie coulda ended there

just some other highlights i found ridiculous (or just off putting enough for me to be like ... what??), even for a slasher movie:

1. hijacking an ambulance and driving it all around town. what did they leave it and all the medical equipment inside just unlocked in the open? and is the school unlocked too? ik this is a common trope so it gets a pass but like, doors get locked irl

2. heather closing the bookstore at night, apparently the only shop in the mall that stays open that late and actually closes and locks up their merchandise?

3. the hospital having 2 employees, one being a really strange nurse lol. also when they walked past an entire group of patients just sitting staring dead at some tv program? have y'all ever been to a hospital

4. josh (or whatever the little brothers name is) and kate kissing in the stall. i found this genuinely inappropriate as he seems to be a freshman and her a senior in high school. no need for that. also why did she ask for help? can she not undo her own bra? just ew all around there. he seems like a child. disgusting

5. deena and sam tryna get it on at multiple points throughout the movie like why are y'all having sex knowing y'all are absolutely not safe. what lol

6. people keeping their bloody clothes on, knowing that it was what was causing them to be hunted. it was genuinely confusing like you said

7. this town had one actual cop, poor dude went on every call and saw all this shit, even tho we see a ton of cops in the background of the hospital massacre crime scene? only he goes inside and investigates like why is he taking every single call

8. everyone going to a "mandatory vigil" in their football, cheerleading, or band uniforms but no one actually??? played or cheered or performed like why was that a thing. and they were literally ready to kill each other on the bus ride back like calm down pls

9. the epipens being used to wake sam up? first off epinephrine is just adrenaline used to suspend anaphylactic shock reaction time to get someone to a hospital. she also used them extremely incorrectly (used no force, did not hold needle inside, struck chest instead of thigh) and gave same like 6x the dosage. instructions are literally written on epipens

again just the delivery of every line was so riverdale so over the top so epic highs and lows of high school football 😭😭 nothing wrong with enjoying riverdale either, but everyone can acknowledge that the writing is a little goofy

also the biphobia. deena rlly did not have to be so weird about sam dating a man. bisexuals exist 🤨 even if she was a closeted lesbian it's the 90s.... have a little sympathy miss girl

i don't often watch slashers i do know they're known for their "girl acting out of her mind" moments and "unrealistic stuff to make the story work" elements but as a genuine horror movie fan who doesn't mind gore i just thought it could've been done in a way that made it seem like the story took place in this universe and not the upside-down lmao

my apologies if i got anything wrong here i didn't have my eyes glued to the screen and i missed some scenes when i went to pee and stuff. but i think enough here is correct to explain why i don't really understand the hype. which might be the real problem - it's been so insanely overhyped that as an indie flick i would give it a pass as a fairly well made movie for resources available but as a netflix slasher i just...... expect more. you are of course more than welcome to still disagree with this and that's fine! if this trilogy was your style then i'm happy for you, twas not for me however. maybe the other two movies are better or make the story make more sense but i don't plan on watching them. 💜💜💜

[ziracona]

The tendency in fandom to take every white girl with short hair, regardless of the status of their canonical interest or lack of interest in women and explicit interest and/or sexual history with everything but, proclaim them a lesbian queen, and then ignore or absolve them of every single horrific act they take in fiction because of this. Is not doing feminism. Women. Lesbians. Or anyone. Any favors. It’s just bad.

Somehow. Some people really do apparently need to hear that...being any specific sexuality...is not a personality trait.

And also. Women aren’t inherantly less vile than men (or anyone non-binary, agender, fluid, etc, else), and whatever bad deeds they do should be judged based on just that—on the deeds, and their context. Not their sexuality, imagined sexuality, or their gender. Becuase none of those things effect whether committing murder is bad. At all. Not even a little. And none of them. Is even a personality trait. Affecting the character’s value as a person.

It’s cool, and good, to see characters with minority identities. And it’s real nice. When it’s whatever you are. But them being whatever. Is not a personality trait. Just a fact. And sometimes. People of any type. Are not good. Pretending any minority status—gender, sexuality, race, disability, neurotype, etc—is a get out of jail free card? Is not. Doing them. Or anyone. Any favors. Personality disorder. Doesn’t make you bad. Also doesn’t make you good. Your actions do. Acting like Amy from Gone Girl did nothing wrong when she date rapes her boyfriend & then frames him for doing that to her & ruins his life, then blackmails her husband who is terrified of being murdered by her into staying with her for the sake of the child she made at a fertility clinic with his sperm without his consent, bc she’s a woman. Isn’t good. Men aren’t more deserving of violence than women. Neither is anyone else. Jane. Left an infant child in an unheated car in subzero weather in a snow storm with zombies around that easily would hear it cry and go eat it. So she could lie and say she already let zombies eat it to bait a man with easily triggerable PTSD who had just lost his family to zombies for the second time into starting a fight. Because he was injured, unarmed, weak, down an eye, and 50, while she was fit, mid 20s, healthy, and armed with a hunting knife. Because she wanted an excuse to kill him without looking bad, because she wanted the 11 year old girl she was co-parenting with him, all to herself. And her immediately responding to the dude throwing a punch by stabbing him in the stomach to escalate the fight from brawl to life or death, then losing her knife, and instead of telling him the baby was alive & she’d made it up to start a fight which could have at any point ended the fight, begging the 11 year old child to gun down her oldest surviving friend with her own hands in cold blood so that she’d get what she wanted? Is evil. As is crying on the 11 year old and using pity as a weapon to get her to stay with her if she gets mad and wants to leave when she realizes Jane staged the whole thing for an excuse to murder, and so is after realizing like a month later that she is pregnant, committing suicide, and leaving the 11 year old that she just manipulated into killing her oldest surviving friend/completely isolated on purpose so she could have her to herself, totally alone in the apocalypse to care for an infant. Jennifer’s Body? Is a fantastic film. And Jennifer didn’t deserve any of what happened to her. But not one single boy she kills during the course of that film deserved it—and explicitly so. Even the guy who could easily have been a meathead jock bully is outside alone crying becuase his best friend just died and he loved him before she decides to lure him off and eat him alive. And acting like it’s totally fine & Needy should have just let her keep eating boys instead of killing her? Is fucked up. None of them deserved to die. And no one deserves death innately more because they are or are not something that is just a factual designator of their makeup as a human. The exchange student was scared and alone and nice, the catholic kid was sweet and Needy’s friend, Chip is a bad boyfriend but he meant well and being stupid doesn’t mean you deserve to die. And this girl ate them alive. That’s not funny. Or cool. Or fine becuase they were dudes. Gertrude Robinson? Chose again and again to betray people who loved her, or trusted her—sold out victims of awful trauma to their worst nightmares. Killed friends in the worst possible ways, like it was nothing. Michael loved her, and trusted her, and tried to care for her, and she without faltering fed him to his worst nightmare and forced him to become it. There is nothing excusable about that action.

Jude Perry? Has 0 redeeming features. Didn’t even stay faithful to her poor gf & was creepy obsessed w Agnes. Literally murdered her co-worker friend just because he was happy, and she wanted to destroy things: that’s it. She didn’t even dislike him. Murdered him because he had a wife and kid and house and it seemed fun, then burned down his house, took his wife’s money, and now checks in on his kid every so often in case he ever recovers from the trauma she inflicted enough to be fun to kill. There is literally nothing good about this woman. Yes. I mean that. Because being a lesbian? Is just a thing. There is no g/b tag, there is no tag at all. Amanda Young? Got kidnapped and tortured and forced to choose between killing a man who couldn’t resist but was conscious to watch her, and letting herself die, and she killed him. Then, instead of responding to that trauma with guilt or responsibility or anger at her captor, joined up with him and started helping him kidnap people just like her. She was not forced, she was not lied to. It does not matter if John was manipulative; she is a grown ass woman and like all grown ass adults, responsible for her own actions and choices. She did not get manipulated pitifully into this—she did not go unwillingly. She volunteered, with a happy vengeance, became obsessed with John and in love with him, despite his complete lack of interest. And she did not even just do what he did. She decided on her own that no one deserved redemption, & she killed them for fun in traps that wouldn’t let them go even if they did whatever awful thing the trap demanded as a price for life, just for the fun and power trip of watching them die helpless & in agony. That was all her, & her alone. She sat in a house full of people slowly dying from organ decomposition over the course of a few hours, for no crime worse than drug addiction—the thing she of all people should have been most sympathetic to—knowing full well at any time she could have saved them and stopped the game, and did nothing. She held a woman in her arms and stroked her head lovingly while she let her die in one of the most inhumane ways possible for the crime of having not been able to break an addition. She got saved by a 16 year old child multiple times, who had done nothing more than shoplift, and stood by while he had to watch a man get his brains blown out, another burn to death in an oven. As his organs slowly dissolved too. Watched the kid kill another human being & massively traumatize himself to save her life. And responded to that by attacking & knocking him out, tying him up, locking him up for days in a tiny safe bound and gagged with an oxygen supply to keep him alive, to be a piece in another game. Left his father, who had shown up to try & save him, to starve to death in chains in a horrible abandoned rotting room, & never even told him his son was alive. Let every other addict die horribly, let that kid sustain permanent damage to his organs that will kill him young, antidote taken or not, took his dad from him, & went back to torturing without a second thought. Kidnapped a woman whose worst crime was being a doctor & dating someone while maybe separated instead of divorced from her husband, put her in a trap that would take her head off with shotgun blasts, threatened her for fun, & then killed her even after she did everything she was asked, because it was more important to her that the old man she was obsessed with think she was special and great, than for the other woman to get to stay alive another day & go home to her daughter. There is nothing sympathetic about Amanda. She’s just not only evil, but too spineless to take responsibility for her own choices & actions, & tries to hide behind a “UwU I am sad & lonely & damaged & having trauma means I can literally torture people to death to feel special & it’s really tragic and sympathetic about me, not evil. Uhm. Some people??? Commit torture-murders?? To cope??” And acting like she’s somehow a victim in this becuase she is a pretty white girl with short hair? Is fucked. Up.

But every. God damn. Time. I see this. Please. It needs. To stop. People go: “UwU pretty girl short hair want” & I go “Ok. I see where u. Come from. Indeed.” But then. They go. “Girl pretty I like. So she was blameless. For this atrocity.” Those words...

Every day. I wake up. Thinking of Janic saying. Iconically. “At least me and Regina George know we’re mean,” and I weep inside. Because I cannot fathom. Or stomach. The lack of responsibility. I will kill. Characters who cannot admit they are bad. Myself. But somehow. They become. Flames. To moths. Of the “UwU pretty white girl short hair. We stan. Victim. Queen. Love her. Never done wrong.” Boy. We all done wrong. Even all my faves. At least once. I think. ...not if we count dogs probably, but people, yes. Ok. Anyway. All this is to say. Characters. Should be judged. Based on what they did. And why. And the aftermath. Not a grouping tag. I don’t mean any of these. Make bad characters. At all. Amy is a great character. So is Jennifer. So are most of them. I have quite affection even. For Jeneffer specifically. But you can like. Character. Without proclaiming. Them perfect humans. Who never did a thing wrong. Or their acts somehow. Justifiable. And ok. And you better stop saying. Ok. Because done. To men. Men do not. Deserve violence. Any more. Than anyone else. No one deserves violence defacto for factors. Outside their control. Wtf. Really people. It’s ok too. For character. To do much bad stuff. And still like character. Villains. And often just complex characters. Sometimes just characters. Do stuff. That is bad. It’s not supposed to be not their fault. Or ok. Also. Women are not a sisterhood. Of flawless beings. Who never hurt anyone or do any bad stuff. They can. And are. Often purpotrators. Of awful acts. And when they are. It is still. Very bad. Still. An awful act. Same level. Even. Of awful. Wild.

In conclusion.

Having short hair. While a girl. Doesn’t make her a butch queen. Who is absolved of all responsibility for that murder she committed. It just makes her a girl with short hair. That did a murder. I’m gonna. Kill someone. Too. And if I chop my hair off. I guess I can get away with it.

[vaultgirl2077]

Its a weird feeling when the love of your life deceives you, especially when you can read people as well as Maya can.

@vaultgirl2077 and I definitely enjoy killer Kay more than baby Maya does ಠ⌣ಠ