#when i first read that line i was like “oh thats just a kneejerk reaction” but like nah-

[fruitsofhell]

Like look. I don't hate the idea that the Ancients weren't native to Halcandra, I don't hate the idea that Magolor wasn't native to Halcandra. I just hate the fact that it was pretty much the most logical conclusion for years - even up until RTDL DX because of the Jamba and "Jambandra" - and now all of a sudden, it's a maybe not.

And I specifically don't like the idea of information just being deconfirmed with nothing new in its wake. Like that's what I say about Magolor not being from Halcandra, it's destructive to his character. That conclusion being possible made so much room for others that could be drawn about his motives and person. Without him being native there, it breaks one of his connections to a defining setpiece of his game, and leaves us with kind of a vacuum of why he is the way he is. I just don't like it.

Magolor is a liar, Hyness was untrustworthy, but those games would tell you what they said, and then in other ways, make clear they extent of their bullshit. Other than the fact that he does lie, there's no reason to assume Magolor isn't from Halcandra, cause there's just... no reason to believe it's not true because it's a detail that isnt contradicted (besides a Halcandra allegedly being a ghost town when there are still plenty of alive looking enemies). Him being foreign and needing to take you to Halcandra under the guise of it "being his homeland" is like a whole new layer of extrapolation for the original game, when him living there aligns with motivation. And I think there's an obvious reason why his ORIGINAL coming clean did not even hint at that being a lie, and Kumazaki admits that story details come when they make them.

With Hyness, we explicitly understand how wrong his views on Void are through the pause screens, but there is nothing that ever conflicts with his lore dump, other than obvious bias from his side of the conflict. Which still leaves, "The Halcandrans were in two factions, and one banished the other" as a clear takeaway. If someday we learn Jambandra is named that not because of connections to Halcandra but because Hyness is faking that, or that Hyness is in other ways making up history. I will not be very happy, UNLESS that is filled in with an explanation.

It's tacky but fine if we learn these guys were lying more than was reasonable, but then I would want to know for sure, WHY they lied and WHAT they were covering up. Kirby lore is written as it goes, if the team comes back with a cooler idea that's fine, but come back with a cooler idea of where you're going and not just what you're retconning.

Twas fucking around trying to brush up on recent bunglings of the Kirby timeline, and I was trying to remember if it was ever explicitly stated: "The Ancients" - those Ancients, Ancients with a Capital A - "lived on Halcandra." Like, It Is Their Homeland.

And though that is technically never outright stated... along with all the general synonymizing of Halcandra and The Ancients, there is this line that once again kinda sets that idea in stone.

"Halcandran Vessel" "Crafted By The Ancients"

But then of course here comes my faaaavorite plot twist:

IAmNotGoingToBe"OrSoTheySay"ed! IAmNotGoingToBe"OrSoTheySay"-ed! IAmNotGoingToBe"OrSoTheySay"-ed! IAmNotGoingToBe"OrSoTheySay"-ed! IAmNotGoingToBe"OrSoTheySay"-ed! IAmNotGoingToBe"OrSoTheySay"-ed! IAmNotGoingToBe"OrSoTheySay"-ed! (slowly morphs into a corncob)