#whatever they got going on is not healthy but tbh they are demons so idk
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“I’ll be back in a moment.” Psyche carelessly settled her glass of alcohol on the bar; the corners of her smile twisting into somewhat of a smirk. Her dark blue eyes carefully tracked the movement of a figure behind her "beloved" companion.
“Oh?” Bell’s tone carried some light amusement that quickly perished the moment he understood her intentions, “so a one-night stand is more important than our conversation about the boundaries.” His tone dropped harshly — taking on that usual deep and intimidating tone he used on every human.
She froze for a moment before giggling as he caught her trying to give him the slip.
“You know, this is the very reason why if I decided to suddenly cheat on my wife it would be with everyone in this room but you.” He snapped before sipping on his Bloody Mary.
“Satan, you are so needy~” She chuckled seeing the deep shade of vermillion red crawling over her companion’s face. He choked momentarily on the alcoholic liquid before narrowing his eyes and quietly growling at her, threatening her to continue. She smirked at the provocation, “you need to be center stage and can’t handle—” Her eyes widened when a sharp nail pressed itself against her jugular. Her smirk grew, and she pressed her throat against his dagger-like nail feeling it tear into her skin. She hummed enjoying the vibrations, “this is why you married a human, isn’t it? Their idea of "monogamy"?”
Her body grew slack and heavy for a moment; her control momentarily thawed. She stared down at him and met void-like scleras with ruby red iris — which caused a wave of panic to overpower her for an instant. An awkward, graceless chuckle forced itself out of her mouth as she tried to withstand the gaze of the demon holding her life by a thread. “Did I hit a nerve?” Her tone felt unsteady to her as she forced the corners of her lips to rice into a smirk.
He slowly pulled his hand away from her throat, threatening her to dig his nails deep into her throat if she dared to continue. She decided to obey or rather was forced to obey since her body had a complicated time reacting to her requests to continue provoking him. A few seconds later, Bell sighed and finally broke eye contact. He chugged the remains of his Bloody Mary and grumbled under his breath for a moment before turning on his heel and leaving the bar with a scowl.
A sigh of relief unintentionally escaped Psyche as her stress melted a few seconds after her companion's abrupt departure. Her sense of self preservation felt ever grateful for the existence of Bell’s wife.
She chuckled as she had managed to elude their conversation regarding the boundaries. She pressed the glass against her lips and sipped on the alcohol reeling in her victory before her eyes widened in realization. He had left her with the tab.
#I like to think they hate each other but like idk if it reads like that#I believe they are frenemies#they are also terrible with friendship#whatever they got going on is not healthy but tbh they are demons so idk#They would absolutely backstab each other if the opportunity presented itself#or as a friend put it “they would trade each other for a chip” or less than a penny#Psyche would like them to be frenemies w/ benefits but Bell keeps rejecting her & she kind of refrain on the talk#after hearing he became a married man#Psyche wouldn't mind being a homewrecker but surprisingly Bell actually cares about his marriage enough#like he is oddly moral about the marriage#like way too much for a demon#writing#writing snippet#my writing
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spn s1 ep2 "wendigo"
THATS RIGHTTTTT!! more notes for my lil rewatch thingy.. man I love this show 😭
i love the grimey lighting!! Like slay I can't see shit!!
You can almost always tell how lore based an episode will be based on what it starts with.. like it's starting with random men in woods + death so filler! A monster of the week kinda thing!!
Which also makes me wonder why when Sam and Dean were kids John would be on a hunt for weekssss. Like it can take Sam and Dean a couple of days man??
Why are these kids camping if they're just gonna be on their phones?? Most boomer writing ever. WHICH REMINDS ME DEAN IS GEN X BRO.. and jack is gen alpha😨
bro these guys are DUMB. *Friend screaming in woods* *mild concern*"uhhh brad? What's going on?" IDK A BEAR ATTACK?? GET UP FREAK.
a poca shell necklace?? makes sense. I'm glad these MFS are dying and being kidnapped.
ALSOOO wendigo?? Hannibal reference?? Jkjkjk... UNLESS? no jk..
dangit moving into emotional territory. GAHHHHH JESS ☹️. she deserved better tbh.
“i should have protected you.. should have told you the Truth..” BABY NOOOO!! you couldn't have known :(((
Oh shit it was a nightmare. Forgot he had those. Tbh Sam's visions were one of my favorite plots in the entire show!! up there with demon blood, creepifer, godstiel, hallucinations, and everything to do with Jack kline.
“another nightmare?” DAD DEAN WINCHESTER I TELL YA!!
“you want to drive for a bit?” he doesn't know how to help Sam so he's like "well driving my car makes ME happy sooooo—" and honestly? Good effort pal
“im fine” ARE YOU SAM? ARE YOU.
why are they acting like John will know what killed Jessica?? He doesn't know what killed Mary dude 💀 AND THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY HE'S MISSING. (it's because he's on the demons trail but still..)
"so black water ridge is ther—" “dude check out the size of this freaking bear!!” HELPPPP!! Dean stay on track man— HOLY SHIT THATS A BIG BEAR. NEVERRRRMINDDD.
sams side eyes LMAOOO. "Why is he talking about this bear??"
Ranger guy really just handed out private info to these random guys because they said they were some girls friends..
“why do we even need to talk to this girl???” Sam chill out 😭
“so maybe we can know what we're walking into before we walk into it???” LMAOOOO YOU TELL EM DEAN!!
Sam has had a complete character swap and I love it. He just wants to find John, and kill whatever killed Jess. And Dean is slightly tweaking bc Sam is acting SOOOO careless 😭
“since when are you all 'shoot first, ask questions later'??” “since now.” DEAN DON'T SMILE AT THAT. SAM IS NOT ACTING HEALTHY.. just because you act like that doesn't mean Sam should too lil bro 😭
WAIT HOLYSHITHOLYSHIT!!!!! ON THE FAKE ID DEAN SHOWS THE GIRL IT SAYS SAMUEL COLT!! LIKE THE LEGEND. THE MAKER OF THEEE COLT GUN. THE MAKER OF THE TRAP TO THE GATE OF HELL IN S2/3 GAVNS HOKY SHITTTT!! REFERENCE!!
why is it that whenever Dean is about to 'hit it' or yk pull a women he looks at Sam with a smug smile. Like.. "look Sammy. She thinks I'm cool. Yeaaaaa women love me im SOOOOO awesome! 😼" If you were so cool you wouldn't be desperate for your little brothers validation.
codependent siblings meet codependent siblings.
“our parents are gone. It's just me two brothers and me, we keep pretty close tabs on each other..” Literally kid Sam and Dean core.
So this girl is all like "yea guess I'll see you out in the woods then. I'm gonna find em. I have too" and deans all like "I know how you feel.." DO YOU? who actually cares about John bro..
Nerd Sam finds shadows on bad video. Dean is wayyy to proud of him dude😭 it's honestly kinda sweet.
STOP HARASSING SAD OLD PEOPLE 😭😭 last episode with the guy with a dead wife and kids, this episode with a guy who saw his parents murdered and got mauled by a "grizzly bear" LIKE LEAVE THEM ALONE BRO😭😭
holy shit that scar is so bad. I'd cry.
“its corporal..” "stfu nerd what does that even mean??" "Its—" "blah blah, which means we can kill it! It's corporal." HE JUST SAID THAT DEAN..
sams kinda right.. it's dangerous for this girl to go with you, but deans also right.. she's gonna go no matter what.
LMAO COOL IT ON THE SASS SAM. “finding dad's not enough?? Now we gotta babysit too??” HELPPPP
Dean why are you looking so OKSY WITH THIS. Sam is clearly not right in the head bro😭 all he's thinking is "Sam's acting all tough like me 😼 kinda being a dick but we don't know these people so idrc"
“and your hiking in biker boots and jeans?” “well honey I don't do shorts 😒💅” HES SO ICONIC!!
this Roy guy is dumb. Like they're (in your perspective) rangers, they know what they're doing chill out. Obviously they know how dangerous the woods are??
and another one bites the dust.. RIP RANDOOOOO
dean finally met his snarky match.. “say uhh.. those critters ever hunt you back?” *gets yanked still.* “whatcha doing Roy?” *Roy picks up stick and disables bear trap.* “watch your step ‘ranger’”
OH MY GOD THE BROWN JACKET!! I miss the old wardrobe sm. Sam reminds me of a deer, no wonder Crowley calls him moose.
“your not rangers. Who the hell are you?” SHE CLOCKED THEMMM!! they've gotten caught twice in 2 episodes. C'mon guys. Your 2-0. losing. Or is it 0-2? Idk sports reference.
HOWEVER DON'T HATE THE DUFFLE BAG LADY. that stays for all 15 seasons. I think ���
“besides it's probably the most honest I've ever been with a woman. ever..” HELP?? NOT A FLEX DUDE. you cannot convince me pre-series Dean had game. no way.
“what do you mean I didn't pack provisions?” THEN HE PULLS OUT A GIANT BAG OF M&M'S. ARE YOU FR??? HELSPSBSB
they are at the cords and... NOTHING. however there's no crickets so duh, obviously preds are around. Like animals not pedos. I CAN'T SPELL FAUCK
“you shouldnt go off by yourself..” “thats sweet. :)” ROY I LOVE YOU OLD MAN.
Also Ben (the kiddish brother of the girl) is listening to music in his earbuds the whole way and honestly? That's so real of him.
I love how Sam just follows dean around, ducking over his shoulder. It's kinda cute. I LOVE MY SONSS
I really don't remember much about the random man screaming but... yep they got their packs stolen. Tsk tsk tsk.
It's so obviously NOT A BEAR. bears don't commit kidnappings believe it or not!!
“so much for my gps and satellite phone :((” oh 2005, how I miss you.(I wasn't alive)
I really do like the old phones though tbh. No texting. (Even if there was, Dean probably couldn't figure it out back then)
“it wants to cut us off so we can't call for help..” “it? You mean someone. Some NUTJOB.” no Sam knows what he said Roy.
Sam dragging Dean away to speak in private omg. Dude I know these MFS are brothers, but they sneak around so much they act like a closeted gay couple. People on the road def thought that— HELL the entire bugs episode exists?? All the real estate agents were like "we sell to ALL types of people." And the second time they got hinted at being gay, Dean gave up and called Sam honey 💀💀
Finally they know what it is, even if Dean doesn't believe smarty pants sam.
sams right. These strangers?? Gotta go!!
“im trying to protect you.” “trying to protect me? I was hunting these woods when your mommy was still kissing you goodnight!” jokes on you HE DOESN'T HAVE A MOMMY!! hah! Take that!!
finally Dean talking to Sam. “no your not fine. I'm supposed to be the belligerent one, remember?” FINALLY.
“dads not here. Why are we still here?” valid point Sam! “this is why. (*Pulls out journal*)" NOOOOOOUHHHH. They treat it like it's the Bible. ITS NOT. “maybe dad wants us to take over where he left off. Saving people., hunting things. The family business.” dude. Sam is grieving over Jessica. Just let him grieve, kill the thing, and go back to law school 😭
“why doesn't dad just talk to us?” FR. I hate john.
Deans following orders, and Sam just wants to finish everything. It's kinda crazy how alike Sam and John are, but in different ways?? Idk.
Dean trying to comfort Sam but saying shit that doesn't help part 1!!
roy got nabbed. DUMBAHH
don't make Dean go into his backstory girl.. I know he looks like a pretty princess in leather but..
oh shit this IS an old show. They said 'Indian'. Which reminds me of in the bunker when Sam corrects Dean and says 'native American'. Idk if it's just because I was raised with hearing native American but calling them Indians is stupid. Like there can't be two?? And they just straight up AREN'T INDIAN?? but WTV..
ahhh yesssssssaaaa!! The cannibal lore of wendigos! reminds me of a certain gay phycologist? or uh.. wait what does he do.??? Physiatrist? WAIT—
okayyyy soooo fire? Cause wtfdym guns are useless?? damn when ARE guns useful.
why is Sam so smart. "Dawg the tracks? To obvious and clear it wants us to—"
HOLY SHIT ROY. we found him—yay???...
RUN BITCH RUNNNNNUUUUH
welp they lost Dean and Hailey.
No way the stupid product placement was actually important. Good job music kid!!
Also not part of the show but I found a pimple on my arm and YIKES the amount of puss— uh anyways..
*WARNING DO NOT ENTER* OMG let's go in here!!
like..
I mean yes they are probably in there but jesus.
okay now the boring plot.. blah blah save people, blah blah bad 2000's effects, blah blah.
Honestly the monster aspect of the monster show was kinda lacking in the first few episodes for me. I lLOVEEEE the monster stuff normally, don't get me wrong, but idk the action isn't peak rn, and we barely get to see the monster. :9
and Sam gets to drive baby!!! YIPPEE!!
#spn#supernatural#spn meta#spn rewatch#oli watches spn#spn s1#dean winchester#sam winchester#sam and dean#sam and dean winchester#wendigo#paranormal#Hannibal mention#john winchester hate club#john winchester
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JUST FINISHED RE-READING SOUL EATER AA. THOUGHTS BELOW
I enjoyed it a lot more than what i’d expected??
I looove the characters and I love the ending.. It left me with good feeling. Idk man i think good shonens truly are the one that ends without getting stretched out into 300+ chapters.
It’s like KNY in a way? Without most of them dead for shock value. It starts when they’re teens and it ends when they’re teens. None of that Naruto-Bleach ending shit. You don’t need to know if Maka or Soul get married and have kids. You just need to know what happens after they beat Kishin and thats it!!! THAT’S WHY I LOVE IT SO MUCH
And i knoooow they have those pedo fanservices and my bar for shounen mangas is in hell, but Maka, Soul, and the gang actually have such fun and healthy friendships. AND KID TURNED OUT TO BE COOLER THAN WHAT I THOUGHT HE WOULD BE? He’s not annoying at ALL?? Like he’s your typical rich boy shonen mc but he’s actually dependable, trustworthy, and living up to his shinigami title. A BETTER shinigami than his father was
Also Maka is suuuuch a good female mc i love how Atsushi wrote female mcs tbh. She has self-doubts and problems without making her too self-conscious. I think Atsushi wanted (?) to make a love triangle but just stopped churning and deepening the new female character, INSTEAD i love how he wrote Maka not acting typical “tsundere” like she actually knows how popular Soul is, and she understands why he got so many fan letters and it’s like their own little inside jokes you know. She’s not worried at all like aaa it’s already 100x times better than how Kishimoto wrote female characters
And Soul actually cares so deeply for Maka auuuurr whenever he defended her or calmed her down... SNIFFLES. I love these kids so much man
THE FEMALE VILLAINS ARE ALSO SO. SO SEXY???? AND GOOD?? AND WELL WRITTEN???? AND HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONALITY?? MY BAR IS IN HELL WOW. You know how shonen usually use mother or sister to reassure you how this female characters are good and kind and wholesome or whatever. But in SE the villains ARE a mother and a sister. Atsushi doesn’t even try to redeem them by giving them sad bg story. They’re just... evil. And I appreciate that.
Other thing that I enjoyed was how Atsushi drew them with different clothes everyday. and not ugly shit either. like i know he bought fashion mags for references
So yeah I guess i can totally recommend you to read SE. Again, cw for pedo fanservices. Other things that I wish Atsushi did is show Maka’s mom at least?? I haven’t and don’t really intend to watch the anime but in the manga you didn’t see Maka’s mom AT ALL... Since she’s so powerful I think it’s a bummer to not show a litttleeee glimpse of her.
Alsoooo i just don’t like that Marie and Stein had baby together as some kind of “fixing” their lives. Ohh boo Marie was a single adult woman desperate for having a husband before her biology clock ends and booo Stein was mentally ill without standing close to Marie’s soul wavelength. It’s just... so stupid and simple and disappointing after all that battle and how you can see that both Marie and Stein were finally gaining their own self-confidence.. Stupid. WITH ZERO CHEMISTRY. Stein got that hots for Medusa and explored Spirit’s body and you’re telling me he’s Marie’s baby daddy????
MARIE AND JOE WERE IN LOVE AND CUTE AND THRIVING LIKE. STEIN DOESN’T DESERVE HER AT ALL PLEASE THEY WERE GOING TO DINNER AND JOE WAS LITERALLY HEAD OVER HEELS FOR MARIE AA. again. stupid
Hmm what else.. oh Atsushi drawing SWANA characters like that he needs to go to JAIL. Chrona’s end was also unnecessary. They’re just a little kid and I just wished Atsushi gave them a happy ending after all that demonic torture they went through :(
Anyways.. I’ll give SE 9/10. Not 10/10 because some of the characterizations pissed me off. Totally worth to read though. Simple and fun. My faves so far are Kid, Maka, Sid, and Mira ofc ofc. Sid and Mira are the only sane adults and by FAR the sexiest partner in the entirety of SE
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i don't know if i'm the only one but i've often wondered exactly how hard it was to convince julian mcmahon to stick around for season five. they took his character, a feared powerful half demon and made him into the butt of the joke and the whole joke was basically ha ha look at this lovestruck fool obsessing and suicidal because he's got nothing to live with but can't die. ain't that funny? like how the fuck did the writers sell that to julian is my question
i find the entirety of season five just so goddamn insulting to cole's character. hell the fact that he got possessed by the source and this was treated as him turning evil instead of a shitty situation that got out of hand. like it wasn't bad enough he was villified for something that he wasn't even in control of half the time they couldn't even just vanquish the dude, they dragged it on and ridiculed him. i hate it here
lol. i mean. yeah. i really. like. it's like. like okay we all know cole was a fan favorite right and he & phoebe were really meant to like. be the sex appeal to the show no one else was really filling that role they were charmed's Sexy Couple tm. so like. in a sense i get the notion ab wanting to keep him around. because everyone loves him! he's bad boy! he adds this dangerous edge love balancing on a knife's point stuff like that. so like. that being said. u wanna keep him around. i just like Do Not Get how you opt to keep him around Like That. tbh. as w all things. i am blaming brad kern. i think it all really started to tank s4 (well, with mortal cole, but like) with source cole. that was bad, but i know it was part of the push to have like long form season drama character driven plots conflict between the sisters themselves it just like. sucked ass and balls imo. like i mean the fact they had to do the source as a possession just so they could get demon cole and lover cole,,, i mean it speaks to how stupid it was. the fact that u wanted cole to be a villain So Bad but the only way to do it was like. possession? sign that u should not do that like. like. like. i don't know how we're supposed to feel ab that.
and then. the vanquish. not sticking. i think like. i think they probably had the vague idea that cole having a mortal soul would not be able to be vanquished properly right? like. demons get destroyed into nothingness, but the human part of him lives, so i think they probably knew that was what they were going to do, that's what they sold to jmm and like. we sowed those seeds in the s4 finale w his ghost whispers and materialization. so i think like. they knew they wanted to Not Kill Him because he was such a fan favorite. maybe there was an intention to do a will they won't they variant of phole? and then. of course. there was the whole idea of paige cole, which, as the rumor goes, was meant to kick of in the s5 pilot, but both julian and rose shut it down. but i feel like. assuming that's true (which i 100% do assume that's true absolutely and i'm not endorsing it i don't think it would have been good or well written or whatever but like. 👀. you know?) but yeah. assuming that's true, i feel like that piece really speaks to what their designs for cole were: man meat. he was meant to be their male sex appeal and they weren't going to be picky about the narrative itself as long as he was still kicking.
but like honestly? i mean i shouldn't have to say this it's a given: it's not enough to just put your sexy man in front of a camera and call it a day like imo even a man who is not sexy can be made appealing through the power of the narrative. like, to level with you, i never really ever shipped phole nor found cole attractive at all like ever, but i can see like the fucking support beams you know i can see the infrastructure on which this whole thing can you know take on a life of its own in the earlier seasons because they very consciously put it there!! people shipped it for a reason n not just because they were two people standing next to each other on a tv screen i mean hello almost sinking a dagger in her heart but can't do it sends her away back to her sisters because he can't act out on his evil plan!! that's something!!!! that's so very something and they gave us Nothing they gave us nothing in the later seasons. and still expected it to fly. like. tbh julian was probably just like unwittingly duped like dragged along for the ride s5 which is likely why he was vanquished halfway through because i'd imagine roughly three episode in he went okay! um. what's this? guys? what's this? and then they said cole<3 you know he like knew he had to get the hell outta dodge.
anyways. if i were to resuscitate phole in s5. which like. to level w u. i wouldn’t. because they would need a lot of one-on-one screentime and we already spent so much of s4 splitting up the sisterhood in the name of phole i wouldn’t really want to continue with that per se But. if i were. this ask is getting long it’s under a cut
something something demon of the week something something realms the point is cole is there when he very much shouldn’t be and like. he and phoebe get knocked into a different plane. so their bodies are fine and at the manor, but their minds are elsewhere and they need to solve whatever it is in order to get back. and we’ll say there’s a fuckin deadline because the girls need the power of three and right now they are sealed off from accessing it. and you know phoebe’s pretty fuckin pissed with cole because you know. he dragged her down to hell and she almost gave birth to the antichrist. actually source’s heir might be fun to keep around in this au idk. the point is phoebe’s pissed at cole and cole’s pissed at phoebe because phoebe’s pissed at him but he literally didn’t have control over himself in that era and he’s not getting the space he needs to justify himself because phoebe keeps stepping over him. but they gotta work together to get out of here. and were kinda doing enemies to lover 2.0 but like now they have History. of course we’ve gotta do a moment where cole has idk done something normal and phoebe’s so riled up that she does something rash and almost dies cole saves her like catches her bridal style or something faces inches apart breathing heavy and there’s a moment. like a we’re back in early s4 moment. which phoebe immediately breaks from and like walls going flying up but just for a moment there we see it it’s obvious: she’s still in love with cole. which then segues into an argument because like. cole wasn’t sure. right? he wasn’t sure if phoebe now just genuinely hated him. but now he knows right he knows better now so why are you acting like this? why are you taking every opportunity to shut me down to shut me out? why are you acting like you hate me when you know that’s not true right that whole thing to phoebe who gets the Classic because i do hate you. i hate you for what you did to me for what you did to my family and i hate you because i loved you so much and you destroyed me and i hate you because no matter how hard i try that love is still there and i know that for a second if i stop hating you i’m going to love you just like before and you can destroy me again and i hate myself because i’d let you because i love you. you know? big speech. big reveal. i have No Idea what piper and paige are up to right now. the point is. after this big confession we get the lull the cards are on the table what the fuck do we do now which is when cole Finally gets to opportunity to say he was actually possessed by the source and manipulated by the seer and the only thing that kept him holding on was his love for her and after she became queen of hell after he saw what the source had done to her he knew it had to end he doesn’t hold it against her for vanquishing him right this is where we exonerate all wrongs we’re just saying anything bad that has happened ever? scrub it. it’s the source’s fault. cole has no resentment against phoebe. he loves her a healthy, normal, non-possessive amount, so much so He Loves Her So Much he let her kill him and like honestly would probably do it again. idk and then they make out or something. and then they’re out of whatever plane they were in by the end of the episode. And Then we get a buddy cop episode with paige and cole where they bond and also sort through everything that happened there. slowly but surely. and then we do a real phole wedding a super small affair in the manor lowkey bc i hated their wedding episode it blowed we give them a good one. wallah <3
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So in your case, are you put off from Sor iku because of the ship wars? And would you have been more open KH multishipping had it not been for that? Or, is Sor iku simply a ship you wouldn't have thought of had the fans not brought it up?
At this point in my life, I feel like an alternate version of me right now could have been shipping S*oRiku some, if the fandom hadn’t ruined it for me.
Though that’s not entirely true. I just feel like this ship would never completely gel with me. And even in said alternate universe, I would still be shipping S*oKai more as my true OTP.
But my issues with S*oRiku are this:
1. While S*ora’s a good enough person to not let what R*iku did to him--in trying to kill him, and all--really bother him or hold it against him... I just personally headcanon that his subconscious mind might cause him to have nightmares about it. Like, his conscious mind is okay with it... but his subconscious mind isn’t. And as an aside, one of the reasons I ship S*oKai--and think it’s good--is because K*airi’s the only person in S*ora’s close circle of friends who has never betrayed him. Some of you may think I’m wrong on this one... and that S*ora’s forgiven R*iku so much, that even his subconscious doesn’t hold onto any of those old feelings. But IDK. Even while forgiving N*aminé, yes, S*ora still told her in that moment he wasn't happy with her messing with his memories.
2. The goddamn power imbalance drives me bananas, and I don’t think it would be healthy. This was, of course, at its worst in K*HI. But it was improved upon after that... when they both realized they were jealous of each other and wanted to be like each other, and then took a healthy step forward in becoming moreso friends again than rivals (perhaps the friends they once were). So you may be asking, “Why don’t you ship them then, Shanna?” Because D*DD had to bring it back! With R*iku now being a Master over S*ora... and seeing as how N*omura always wants Sora to be a “normal boy”, I don’t see that changing. In K*HIII, R*iku--among everyone else but K*airi--kept teasing him about not being a Master... and while it was all in good fun, you can tell that it really hurt S*ora and shattered his confidence a lot. Maybe not so much the teasing, as the event itself... but still. Maybe not tease your dear friend over a sore spot of theirs every second of every day, guys?
3. I’ve just realized R*iku’s entire redemption arc--which is a huge reason as to why people ship S*oRiku--bothers me and makes little sense, imo. Like, the big takeaway from K*HI, is that R*iku was wrong to side with M*aleficent, kidnap Princesses, want to sacrifice P*inocchio to save K*airi and kill S*ora if he got in his way of saving K*airi... And yet the story’s way of R*iku making up for what he did to S*ora, is to essentially kill more people but for him this time: R*oxas and X*ion. And I know there’s a whole narrative about how our heroes were told N*obodies weren’t supposed to exist/really didn’t exist/were doomed to fade away or back into their original selves, anyway, and R*iku felt he had no choice. But it still bothers me. To me, it gives the unintentional narrative that it’s not okay to kill people for K*airi’s sake, but it is for S*ora’s. It also doesn’t help that, for the most part, R*iku doesn’t see what he did in the D*ays timeline as bad at all--or that he should apologize for it (and he’s yet to): at least not like D*iZ and N*aminé do.
And as a 3.5 of this list... I feel like R*iku became too obsessed with S*ora in his desire to help him/make amends with him, and it really isn’t (or at least wasn’t) healthy. Especially since he didn’t seem to take care of himself at all during that time. Though to be fair... some could maybe argue the same when it comes to S*ora’s obsession with K*airi, and how that’s now gotten him killed twice now... and they may not be wrong. So see? I’m trying to be objective and fair here.
4. And this is a big one for me... I kind of don’t care about S*ora or R*iku without K*airi, so this is probably a big reason as to why I could never really ship them... but explains why I can ship S*oRi*Kai some. All of D*ream D*rop Distance, I got no ship feels like many others would or did, or whatever. No. I just wanted to punch both of them in the face the whole time, for abandoning Kairi. I was so mad! I was like, “How dare you leave your other best friend behind, for no good reason (since you thought there was no danger and she can even somewhat fight now), when you know how much your doing so hurt her last time and you maybe even just made promises against that ever happening again?! Yet here you are! And how dare you take the raft without he?r! And R*iku, what the fuck are you saying, that it was T*erra who made you want to see other worlds when in K*HI you said it was Kairi?! You know what?! Dishonor on all of you! Dishonor on you, dishonor on Sora, dishonor on your cow!” Yeah.
5. This is kind of a minor one... but a lot of people ship S*oRiku in a “and S*ora saves R*iku from his darkness” kind of way. And I’m just- I’m getting sick of this trope in any piece of media anywhere. Because it’s not someone else’s job to save you from your demons. It’s your own. Seriously. Stop trying to put that on so many people/characters. It isn’t fair to them... especially when an act of love so strong as that can often times destroy the giver. Not that I really think it would S*ora--or that this entirely applies to S*oRiku--but I’m just kind of done with the trope as a whole. And a lot of people ship S*oRiku because it’s kind of a light and darkness pairing, and find S*oKai boring because it’s light and light... but tbh? In real life, if given the choice, most people would choose to be with a light person and not be weighed down with a dark one. Because again: it’s not their job to save someone, and expecting that from them really isn’t fair.
6. And I guess this is moreso why I don’t like them in fanon, as opposed to why I don’t like them in canon: I hate how most S*oRiku fanworks that I’ve seen of them, strip away any masculinity that S*ora has--but I’ve also seen their argument, that we S*oKais can make him too masculine. And I could maybe agree with that--and just want him to be a damsel in distress for R*iku to save. I think people who have made posts--about how certain S*oRiku fans need to check themselves... because they hate K*airi, for apparently “always needing to be saved by S*ora”... but then dream of S*ora always being saved by R*iku--aren’t wrong.
And as for if I would have seen any S*oRiku at all in the games without S*oRiku shippers telling me it was there... in the original trilogy (K*HI, C*oM, and K*HII), I don’t see it at all. I know most S*oRiku shippers started seeing it in II... but I don’t. At all). I don’t even really see it in D*ays and B*bS. If anything, I started seeing it in C*oded and D*DD (but at first, I didn’t really see it in C*oded, either; it just seemed long strong/sweet friendship stuff to me--and maybe still don’t as much there as I see it in D*DD--so D*DD’s really the only one I see it in). 0*2 doesn’t have it, in my opinion. And even though people try to argue that K*HIII has it... I think if any S*oRiku fan is being honest with themselves... they can tell that the bromance was toned down in that one, at least compared to recent games, probably because this was when N*omura was first getting news that people shipped S*oRiku... while he was making this game that he wanted to go full S*oKai in. Yeah.
So, to answer your question, at least in this reality... I can never really ship S*oRiku: for the fandom, for things I dislike about it, and the fact that S*oKai will always be my favorite (though I can ship S*oRi*Kai, just not as much as the former). But in an alternate universe where the fandom wasn’t awful... I would probably be shipping it a little; I may have been big enough/strong enough to set the tropes I dislike about it to the side and give them a chance, but I still wouldn’t ship it like I do S*oKai... and I’d get mad at any time K*airi was left out and I felt S*ora and R*iku were being bad friends to her.
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Henlo!! I love your blog so much 😍 it gives me life and makes me happy when I have a bad day. I was wondering if you had any headcanons about Malec’s first time or something where Magnus is a nervous wreck cause he has to tell Alec that he’s trans? Thank you and sorry for the bother 😭♥️
y’all it is a CRIME how long this has been in my inbox, im really sorry and ur not bothering me at ALL i just love this ask and wanted to do it JUSTICE 👏
also im!!! so flattered!!! aaaaaAAAA im glad my blog can cheer u up :)
okokok so trans magnus + malec’s first time + magnus being nervous about coming out lghkjgfh
ok i have no fucking idea why but i’m making this twi malec. i’m just. in the mood for twi malec i guess. fuck it amiright
magnus is just. he has a lot of secrets. there’s a reason he hasn’t gotten close to anyone in a long time, there’s a reason he only talks to two or three people who actually know him, there’s a reason he hasn’t been how he used to be--out and about, flashy and showing off and wearing armor made of glittering beauty and colorful silks and bold makeup, instead of comfortable cardigans and twitching hands and quiet.
speaking of which: def headcanon twi magnus wasn’t always the way he is in that episode. he was a lot like canon magnus once upon a time, charismatic (well, he’s still charismatic, but like, in that bold flashy way, you know?) and open (closed off, but with the illusion of having all his cards on the table) and bold
anyway. there’s a reason. lots of reasons. mostly all the secrets he hides.
the fact that he has magic, that he’s immortal, a dusty relic of a time long gone, of an age past, clinging on past his due date. he feels like he doesn’t belong in the modern world, like he should have died with the shadow world, like he should have been sealed out with all the other demons.
the fact that he is a prince king of hell, son and slayer of the greater demon asmodeous himself. even tho he’s sealed it all away, he has a huge amount of power, both from just. originally being the son of such a powerful demon, a fallen angel, and also from managing to kill one.
i don’t think it fits with canon twi lore but i don’t care, i’m saying twi magnus was involved in the sealing of the realm, and he managed to kill asmodeous and basically absorb his power, so a) he actually did this huge incredible feat that changed the whole world, whether on purpose or not i’m not sure yet (it has something to do with asmodeous, but i’m not seeing the whole picture yet) and b) he’s actually. more powerful than canon magnus. it’s partially why he sealed away his magic for so long, he was afraid of what that power could do.
honestly i dont have this super well thought out but i like the potential
but anyway! barely related to this! let’s get back on topic!
and. the fact that he’s trans. a decidedly more mundane secret, but still one he keeps close to his chest. he’s lived through a lot of eras with bad very transphobic times? like he’s lived through places/times with very accepting atmopshere, but he’s also lived in like, victorian england, you know? and canon magnus had a chance to be more out of his shell and open in the modern world but this magnus has completely closed himself off. he mostly talks to people other than his close friends to give them a tarot reading. he’s not like, totally cut off, i can’t imagine him like. not helping people. you know. idek. but the point is he’s more isolated. canon magnus was closed off in a lot of ways, but still surrounded by people. he had a job to do, people to protect, and parties to attend. not to mention going to pandemonium and stuff. twi magnus isn’t really doing that. man i really went on a tangent here but the point is i feel like that would contribute to how he feels about being trans. feeling isolated, having less friends to be open with and to help him you know? in my experience it’s a lot harder to feel like. valid? without that sense of community. even with a few close friends, it’s hard. if you’re “passing”, which magnus is, it feels like a secret.
the point is! i am getting so off track! magnus has got layers and layers and layers protecting him, both literal and metaphorical (he doesn’t wear the more flashy and revealing clothing canon magnus occasionally favors, preferring thick and comfortable sweaters and cardigans and stuff like that. bonus headcanon: whatever happened that ended in asmodeous dead and the walls of the world sealed, it left magnus with more scars. not to mention top surgery scars he may have, or even just hiding a binder, or using thick layers to disguise small tiddies since binders are great but you can’t bind all the time or every day for centuries and still be like, healthy. anYWAY)
and when he starts dating alec despite that little cautious voice in his head insisting he needs to not get attached, alec begins to just. effortlessly peel those layers away
he’s so blunt and honest, unlike people who have lied to and manipulated magnus in the past (CAMILLE, anyone? i feel like she’d still be a thing in the twiverse. also asmodeous, albeit in a different way) and he’s gentle and loud and bold and he’s funny and sweet and he just. fucking cares about magnus.
when he finds about magnus’s magic he’s like “oh my god that’s so cool” he just fucking accepts him so easily!!!
and even when magnus ends up tearfully confessing he may or may not be a literal king of hell (or, one of the hell dimensions) alec’s like “damn, i’m dating royalty?” and maybe makes a joke about not everyone getting to make a king scream with pleasure and magnus is just so relieved???
but that’s later
anyway
they haven’t had sex yet and magnus is just like. he feels like inevitably this relationship is gonna fall apart. he has too many secrets, too many hidden parts of himself that if he ever shed light on, alec wouldn’t see him the same way
and as much as he wants alec to fuck him, as much as he wants to be in bed with alec and cuddle with him and have sex with him and show him everything, he feels like he can’t, it would be the beginning of the end
he keeps pulling back just as alec begins to initiate, and alec never pushes but wonders if he’s doing something wrong, or if maybe magnus is asexual, or just doesn’t want to have sex for other reasons, and eventually he broaches the topic with magnus and magnus is so surprised alec noticed something is wrong (he expected alec might confront him over not “putting out” but alec doesn’t seem to care about the sex--he makes sure to emphasize while he is attracted to magnus and would lvoe to have sex with him if that’s what magnus wants, it’s by no means a requirement--but more about. magnus. and communicating with him.) that he just blurts out i’m trans.
and alec kinda blinks at him. his beautiful, wonderful, nervous and scared boyfriend. and he ends up blurting out oh thank god. because he would be more than okay with magnus not wanting to have sex--he’s super gorgeous and absolutely smoking hot, but alec doesn’t ever like, want to have sex with him unless magnus wants to. obviously. but he was honestly worried it wasn’t magnus but him, that he’d done something wrong or wasn’t attractive or something, and honestly worrying about something being wrong with him was not a feeling he was used to. then he realizes how bad that just sounded, and he’s like, aaaaaaaAAAA WAIT and ends up panickedly rambling like i mean sorry i just was kind of worried i was doing something wrong but like, i love you so much and you being trans changes nothing about that, and if you never want to have sex that’s totally okay and i love you, but if you’re worried about me still being attracted to you that’s not a problem, but-- and magnus is like y-you’re not?? but you’re gay! and i’m-- and you know that feeling of like. internalized [insert form of bigotry towards yourself, in this case transphobia]. where you think something bad about yourself. and if you think about it you’re like “no that’s transphobic i would never think that about anyone else” and your brain is just like “yeah it’s true about you tho” that’s this. magnus is like. i’m not a real man, how could you be attracted to me? and alec (not to be all Cis Savior, but look, magnus deserves a loving supportive boyfriend who comforts him and shit, okay! i am PROJECTING) is like yeah i’m gay and you’re a gorgeous, beautiful, stunning man?
and they end up talking it out and get it sorted that yes, magnus does want to have sex, but it would be okay if one of them didn’t want to, magnus being trans does not make alec unattracted to him, it’s okay, they’re okay, because malec are Kings of Communication,
ANYWAY
ACTUAL FIRST TIME
probably not the same day, that day they cuddle and talk
but like later
>:)
alec is just so gentle and reverent y’all. like. them big hands on magnus’s body, all warm and gentle and magnus is like oh fuck this is nice
they do have to kind of communicate boundaries--alec’s asks if there’s anywhere magnus doesn’t want to be touched because dysphoria (or any other reason) and vice versa, magnus trying to be like “you know if you only want to fuck my ass or have me wear a strap-on or anything like that it’s fine, i understand you’re not necessarily attracted to those parts of me” and alec’s like “we’ve established that you would enjoy me eating you out and i WANT TO EAT YOU OUT”
their first time probably is pretty simple, “vanilla”, idk why but im thinking they just exchange oral sex tbh like magnus blows him and then alec eats him out
also magnus cums pretty fast bc he hasn’t been touched like this in a long time and he’s very embarrassed about it but alec is like “damn that’s hot can i try to make you cum a few more times”
ok but imagine their first time it’s just alec holding him down and eating him out until he sobs and squirts? yes
anyway tho they have like, lots of “other” first times too like. first time alec fucks his pussy. first time alec fucks his ass. etc.
first time alec slides that Thick Dick balls deep into magnus’s cunt he’s for sure immediately on the edge of orgasming he’s so full and it feels so good--
and alec’s like holy SHIT bc he’s warm and wet and tight and he clenches every time alec praises him or dirty talks him and it feels amazing
first time alec fucks his ass is also very fun for both of them ;)
it’s just a good time all around folks communication and magnus getting pounded the way he deserves :’)
not to mention when they first start getting into kinks
alec, carefully broaching the topic of bondage: how would you feel... about handcuffs?
magnus, barely looking up: mm, padded or not? and what kind of padding? the normal kind hurt my wrists after too long and not really in a nice way, so i like padded. furry can get a little itchy sometimes but they look real nice. also, are we talking above my head to the bedpost, and if so, am i on my stomach or back? because stomach is a little uncomfortable. or like, behind my back? especially bent over, mm. good view for you ;)
then he like looks up and realized he’s said all of this very casually and alec’s looking at him with 1. shock and 2. lust
like. “i wasn’t expecting this, but i really should have, and now i want to bend you over and tie you up and fuck you hard”
and he blushes just a lil bit like o shit i just said all that and alec’s like “padded it is. behind your back or above your head... hm... both have potential, but maybe the latter? i love you on your back under me, i can see so much of your beautiful body and all of your gorgeous face :)”
and like TOYS
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAA ANYWAY
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idk if this is a rant or wat but whatever
So I made a post a while ago on how Yamamoto Kotetsuko is one of the best mangakas of the boys' love genre, because of her fluffy, cute and funny af stories/plots/characters, and somehow I really feel like I'm being a bit hypocritical because I really despise rape/abuse/pedophilia/etc in any genre of story, but somehow I became really interested in Ogawa Chise's work.
Who's Ogawa Chise? This mangaka is probably one of the most twisted writer I've ever read, because I'm a pussy and don't read that much so I don't have any other writer to compare. Going back to Ogawa Chise, this artist, apart from twisted af, is really versatile.
I came upon their work on youtube, there was a channel for a while uploading some short BL mangas with their respective BLCD, which I enjoy very much, because I'm obsessed with seiyuu-san; I saw first Gousan no Heart or Miscalculation of Heart, which is actually really fluffy (that's how I was deceived into this artist in particular), if you haven't read it, the story goes like this: Miki is a playboy and one day at school he listens to Udou, a honor student and all that crap bocchama gentleman bullshit, talking with a girl, more like the girl begging him to give her a chance to have him like her, which he refuses and Miki goes to the rescue and meddles in saying Udou is dating him, and you can guess what goes on later on. This story has a spin off that's about Udou's older brother and his friend from middle school and their story also develops blah blah blah and they are cute and fluffy, there's another one that's reaaaaaaally fluffy, it has a huge ass name so I'm gonna mention the characters' names (or last names....?) they are Okachimachi (the top) and Fujima (the cute lil bottom) and also there's one that's like Arabian themed which I can not remember much, but it's really soft and cute all over
I haven't read all of their work, but I've read quite the amount? and Ogawa Chise's work IS VERY TWISTED, like be careful if you read their work because it includes sexual/physical abuse, rape, incest (both between siblings and a dad and his son), there's this really weird one shot about a demon at the stairs of a certain window at a certain high school, I can't recall much because I was almost sleeping while reading it AND what I think is their longest running work, Caste Heaven, it does include all of the above themes, except, I think, incest/pedophilia idk.
I'm not gonna go much into detail about it, because I might trigger anyone and I don't want to, but it's weird. I got really trapped in the plot, more like I want Azusa to live in peace and Karino to stop abusing him, and I don't want them together, I want anyone with Azusa but Karino, but smh the latest ch was actually kind of........ They resembled an actual couple?????? i'm very confundida, like a part of me wants them to be in a healthy relationship like Atsumu and Kuze (they sort of areeee...? idk anymore, Atsumu grew up a lot throughout the manga tbh and it's like the most rational character of this manga?......) but my rational half of my brain knows it won't be that way and they'll come to terms BUT their past relationship will be seen through anyways.
I usually read fluffy ass mangas, and avoid these ones the most, because if they get too psychological I have to go back and read all over again and I get bored.
I read Killing Stalking til the end and it made me sick, I couldn't stand reading more than a few pages in one go because it made me feel really bad, tense and really anxious. I just read it out of curiosity because EVERYONE was like read it read it you won't regret it, and boi i regret it.
Caste Heaven is really tense too but it's a well thought plot, in despite of all of the disgraces that happen in the book, AND the mangaka usually includes a few bonus pages with some hilarious shorts in order to lighten up the mood a bit (the artist says so in those pages and they do actually cheer you up), it's usually Azusa bickering with either Karino or Kuze.
It's not like I'm freaking obsessed with this manga, I don't find a word to replace 'enjoy', because I don't completely enjoy reading it, but I'll continue reading it because it is an interesting plot, and it's well developed and I want Tatsumi and Senzaki back together, like I'm sad for them and for Inukai and Anji, their ending made me REALLY REALLY sad I actually cried and for the crybaby I am (which I am, I cry while listening to SNSD's Into the new world, because of my S♡NE ot9 big fat ass), I don't usually cry with manga.
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2. if you HAD to choose, who’s your favorite muse?
it would be a tie between HARLOW and ALISTAIR. the reasons vary, fuck this question i’m not choosing.
3. which muse is the trickiest to get into character for?
ANSWERED.
8. what is each of your muses otps? notps?
KOL-- tbh i think that anyone besides DAVINA would feel like a crackship. HARLOW-- hands down. CLAUDIA is the best ship for harlow. someone that is too good would definitely clash with her and the polarity would probably cause an imbalance that could turn toxic very quickly. now, with someone that is the same as her? it would be CHAOS. while it would be an interesting dynamic, i don’t think there would be actual feelings. NICOLE-- because the idea is absolutely interesting, i enjoy her and LUCIFER. their dynamic could go in different directions, especially with the plans i have for nicole in the long run. as for someone else. i feel like nicole is pretty flexible when it comes to terms of shipping. ( i had always thought though, that she would either end up with an angel or a demon. and well. )BAIRD-- toro jk. i’d say DAPHNE but we know that’s v complicated because he is trash. personally, i don’t see him getting in a relationship. he’s NOT longterm material. unless someone is into that................................ ALISTAIR-- in an absolutely no homo way-- JAIME. other than jj, i think someone who is morally gray would fit great with him. preferably also someone who WON’T DIE. VICTORIA-- while it’s an infinitely complicated relationship, i adore her and ADAN. tbh, i think victoria is one of the trickiest to settle with someone, simply because she refuses sdrft and most of them would end up being chaotic as well. i will put the blame on her tbh. ( shout out to c who once said all the gangbangers are in some odd relationship with each other though. i agree. ) SEBASTIAN-- listen, homeboomer is head over heels with CASSANDRA. so much, he saw lizzie and went haywire into unconsciously thinking about cassandra. in general terms, it would have to be someone highkey patient and that understands the struggles of being a boomer baby in a gen z world. but nah, man-- it will always be cassandra. NATASHA-- so ngl, she came with an integrated otp sdfgh and that is no other than SAM. ( let’s break the curse of the dick, okay? she’s only technically dead. ) while i think generally speaking, she’d be also pretty flexible to ship with someone. most of the others would have to be in the neutral or good/lawful spectrum. funnily enough, thinking on a healthy relationship for her, sam does fit the description. they’re both hunters, try to do good rather than evil, protect those they care about, keep their promises, and just that good kush. overall.
10. which muse is the most fun to write for?
BAIRD and HARLOW, just because i can think pretty much anything. write it, and it’s still ic.
11. is there another muse you’ve been thinking of adding or writing for? who?
yes, and no. the base of natasha’s character was one i had for months. since i had missed natasha 2 days after dropping her i was like-- why not use that idea for her? and voila. she came back as a remastered version. there are also three ideas i’ve had in mind, but that i don’t think will come any time soon. the first one is an angel that recently fell from grace because of something minuscule and i’d be playing them as they slowly transition to being a demon. the second one, is a krysten ritter fc who is a hunter who lost all of her family, and while she’s not looking for revenge, for some reason or another, she gets stuck with responsabilites like... idk training younger hunters or whatever. and she’s just an eternal ben affleck meme mood. ( while i like the idea, i don’t think i’d ever bring her becase i get bored with human-ish characters + she’d end up being a jessica jones insert lmao ) finally, i suddenly got the appeal of playing your stereotypical werewolf who is highkey protective of his family and friends, and is ready to throw hands just because someone breathed the wrong way near any of them. ( no, i totally did not get inspired after rewatching elite s1 and having a new found love for guzman. nope. )
18. would you ship any of your muses together? who?
on a superficial level, i think ALISTAIR and VICTORIA would fit. and would probably be beneficial for her character. for his....? not so much whenever she dies.
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(if you get multiple 5's, I'm sorry. Tumblr is a butt.) 5
I haven’t but thanks for the heads up. this one will be for Colleen and is slightly disjointed in that I still haven’t fully edited it from when Colleen was a new oc.
5: Describe your OC’s physical appearance.
okay, so she has lightly tanned skin, enough to make it look like she’s no longer on death’s door anyway. dark brown almost black eyes and straight shoulder length red/bright orange hair (tbh it’ll probably change to almost chin length but idk). she’s got a healthy build, due to the whole “fight demons, vampires and whatever else” thing she’s got going on (magic only goes so far you know!)
she has a tattoo on her sternum but that’s probably better described with a picture or a random bit of writing I have lying around that doesn’t really fit this. there’s the scar that goes around the area just above her elbow and a very large amount of scarring all over her right foot and ankle from an incident. annnd there’s also a bunch of deep lacerations/scars on her legs from various dealings with werewolves.
tbh she probably has more scars and tattoos but that’s all I got for now.
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talk about some character growth you're really proud of?
okay well on my current roster:
lucille has obviously come absurdly far during her time on denny, and i’ll always be proud of that and how much? thought and effort i put into approaching a redemption arc for her. i love redemption arcs but i’ve gotten much more critical of and picky about them over the years, and you know what they say about doing something yourself if you want to see it done right, and! yeah! the thing was, when lucille first showed up on denny she really wasn’t in a place to... want or care about redemption and so the first general character development goal i aimed for was to try to get her to a place where she did. and i tried to be pretty conscience about making that HER decision and HER responsibility and not making it dependent on like, how other characters were reacting to her especially where edith was concerned, because i didn’t want to turn it into something where edith was trying to support and guide someone who’d hurt her before it was actually deserved.
so throwing her into silent hill really gave her an opportunity to confront some of her inner demons (literally), helped along by some characters she met along the way like joshua (the character, not the rper, although he was played by the rper,) who actively encouraged her not to stagnate. eventually she got to the point where she was actively remorseful not just for what she’d done to thomas, who she loved, but to edith, who was her ENEMY, which is really important. edith and lucille’s relationship development is especially an aspect of this i’ll always be proud of. and from there she moved on to not only wanting to make things up to the people she hurt, but she started caring about getting to a better place in general. she did little self-improvement things like working at the animal shelter to help her re-learn empathy (not just for animals, but for people too). she met maria and was finally able to bond with someone in a (relative to many of her previous relationships) healthy way and eventually they were even able to leave silent hill together. over the years lucille has become such a different... more functional and aware person and i am really really proud of that.
okay i actually didn’t mean to go on so long about her BUT OTHER CHARACTERS. bramblestar. sometimes even i forget that i apped him after the new prophecy arc, when he was still brambleclaw, and that he’s come such a long way HIMSELF. i’m really proud of lionclan as a whole honestly, i think so many people have contributed it to make it as strong and functional as it’s been, but bramblestar acting on his ambition and feeling out what being a leader really means is something i’ve really enjoyed rping.
siobhan... being honest i think the reason siobhan is the character who has never been as affected by my dc burnouts is because, well, she was such a minor character to begin with so this is easier to accomplish, but she kind of? feels like more mine than canon’s at this point? she’s just been brought to this completely different place with a completely separate identity from what she was in season 1 of supergirl. she’s gone from a reckless supervillain hellbent on revenge and literally not caring if it kills her in the process to someone who has actually been able to shed at least some of her ultra-cynical “all people want to just screw each other over and it’s not worth trusting anyone” mentality. she’s still someone who doesn’t make that many friends and holds grudges (even over small things) forever but she really really cares about the people she’s close to! she’s learned how to be selfless! she’s learned to value herself at least to the point where she, you know, no longer wants to fuckin’ die and actually gives a shit if her family curse robs her of her humanity. she overcame her gut reaction disdain for people who actually want to help and change things, learned that this was important part of who rocket and his friends were, and accepted that. learned to respect them for it. pretty soon she’s going to try to honor them for it. i’m really interested to see where she goes once she’s in a little bit more of an active vigilante-ish (in a very guardians of the galaxy sort of way) role but i already feel like she’s come a long way.
sara unfortunately is someone i’m more burned out on but she still deserves a mention here because when i apped her it was only... shortly after she’d become captain of the legends, so she really had minimal leading experience. and now i feel like she leads her denny team pretty confidently and naturally, most times. not only that, but in her early days on denny being separated from her team she’d really... receded more into her season 1 self, was really pretty much a loner who didn’t want to surround herself for a lot of people, so her not only taking on a new team, but eventually learning to accept them as family was pretty big for her. also i feel like her’s and laurel’s relationship deserves a mention all on it’s own because they have come an enormously long way considering how... disastrously and bitterly things started out.
heather deserves a special mention even if i don’t play her as much anymore, because like. well! she’s pretty different from how she started off on denny. honestly you can attribute some of that to just her growing up, because at least to some extent teenagers are naturally selfish and petty and unempathetic a lot of the time and you just. grow out of that as you get older and more exposed to the world. but also, heather was REALLY viciously mean, and you have to credit a lot of her change to like... working through things with her canonmates too. to the genuinely trusting and supportive relationship she’s built up with veronica, to the way she and duke were both able to own up to some things, to ratchet teaching her that all people aren’t going to be terrible and objectifying. and not even just about how much she’s improved, but also the work she’s been able to do in being able to get over her own trauma and actually trust and rely on her friends to help her. i’m v proud of her for that!!
and i guess i’ll just finish up by mentioning dolores, because when i first apped her she was like. she’d literally been properly ‘awake’ for maybe like a week if that. she had no fucking idea who she was as a person! and on denny she’s really been doing a lot of work to like... define that and what she wants. and some of what she wants and thinks hasn’t really changed, and thats fine - i didn’t app her with the intention of instilling like, “dolores learns that humans aren’t so bad after all!” or “decides to approach things in her world more peacefully” or whatever - but the way she’s been able to explore her own agency and build her own life have been really rewarding tbh. she’s still like... almost overly defensive about her independence at times; she doesn’t like people making decisions for her or defining anything about her and sometimes that can bleed into her like. ignoring good advice or pushing people or concepts away just for the sake of being able to do things on her own terms. but she has found a lot of, idk, simple meaning in her time on denny, and i’ve enjoyed seeing that conflict with the much greater sense of purpose she still feels back in her world, and through all of that just. being able to bond with some people, even human people, which is really big and took a lot of work for all like two counts of it, but that kind of gradual building of trusting, close dynamics is always something i find super rewarding. and getting to do stuff like actually having her develop feelings for laurel and figure out exactly what that means to her and how she learns to handle it, or like... build on what’s become such a fierce sense of loyalty to cloud, who is basically her best friend (another vital and complicated role in her life) has just been great!! i’ve loved all of her relationships on denny but those two have taken the most work so i just wanted to give shoutouts
the rest of my characters are new enough that they haven’t really hit MAJOR development milestones but i have already enjoyed stuff like, sophie’s relationship with cloud being so... strange and distinct compared to the emotional distance she usually keeps from things, and i think that has a lot of potential for development. or like, camille... just camille in general tbh, i really want to explore some deeper issues with her and figure out the way she actually copes.
and i’m excited for some plots with my claims and stuff too but, yeah, honestly it’s just so rewarding to look back on character growth stuff after extended periods of time
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Fallane and Eliza Fate, please
Alright, these two are from different ‘verses just fyi. so any supernatural elements are very, very different, as well as social situations.
WARNING: Fallane’s contains reference to some things that might be triggering. nothing in-detail, but please be advised.
Full Name: Fallane
Gender and Sexuality:
male-ish but with a rising intonation and a hand-wiggly gesture. sexuality is definitely just a hand-wiggly gesture, we think he has a slight preference for men but tbh no one cares
Pronouns:
he/him. if you used other ones he probably wouldn’t object but if you asked he’d say ‘he/him’
Ethnicity/Species:
Egyptian. and he’s like,,, vaguely a demon but not actually. he’s
supposed
to be one of the generals/servants/sextoys/whatever of AN ASSHOLE who reincarnates every 30 years or so, possesses a young girl, and makes everyone’s life hell but he said ‘nope that’ and (mostly) left. so he’s not actually a demon but that’s what his kind got characterized as by various mortals and usually he doesn’t correct people
Birthplace and Birthdate:
like literal ancient egypt in like 2,700 bc or smth
Guilty Pleasures:
I don’t think he’s guilty about any of his pleasures.
that came out way more sexual than I intended
I just meant that he likes things and he’s not ashamed of it
Phobias:
ahhhh this ‘verse is so dark help. I’d say sexual assault is pretty high on the list. I think he’s also a bit claustrophobic. more than a bit. he’s very claustrophobic he just doesn’t get into many situations like that
What They Would Be Famous For:
he could be a model? like actually. he wouldn’t but he
could
. he’s got a wicked fashion sense and is really good at makeup. ooh he could model makeup too
What They Would Get Arrested For:
can u get arrested for smoking indoors? he would. or shoplifting. he likes petty crime because either a) ‘this shouldn’t be privately owned and private ownership is just a social construct’ or b) ‘haha what are u gonna do, catch me?’
OC You Ship Them With:
Sam!! Sam Reeve x Fallane is best ship. you could also ship him with Kai but Sam is most perfectest. I made a ship name for them but it’s lame and I’m not sharing unless u dm me. I also ship Fallane with a healthy lifestyle but that’s never gonna be canon so
OC Most Likely To Murder Them:
does Nara canonically murdering him count? there r a lot of ppl who want to murder Fallane so I feel like this is an unfair question. Kai genuinely hates him for a large part of the story. ahaha Kai canonically kills him too jesus christ Fallane you’ve been killed three times you gotta chill. but I think Nara would be more likely to succeed than Kai so. the answer I pick is Nara. in a sarcastic way tho it’d be Mista, who is so done with his shit and she’s the type to say ‘im going to murder you’ when he like, puts his feet on the table or something
Favorite Movie/Book Genre:
mystery? anything he can sarcastically criticize the plot of, tbh. maybe horror
Least Favorite Movie/Book Cliche:
if he’s a horror fan, then it’d be where any time someone says ‘dont do this’ the person does it and dies. I think he definitely dislikes the ‘aliens are always technological experts’ cliche like what if the explorers are anthropologists with no clue how their ship works?? did you ever think of that?? no you didn’t
Talents and/or Powers:
his main talent is sarcasm. he’s very gifted with picking up languages and accents, and he has a high appreciation for all forms of art. in the supernatural realm, he’s got a lot. he’s a natural low-level empath, and then he got powers on top of that, which made him nigh immortal, gave him rly cool wings, and magical charisma (which is like subconscious suggestion, except,, magic) which he mostly uses to convince people he’s paid for shit he
hasn’t
paid for. in the name of disabling capitalism, of course, and not because he just wants the pillow. then he’s also got some extradimensional abilities which are often interpreted as a kind of telekinesis but isn’t technically. and his empathic abilities get turned up to eleven until he can project so hard he can accidentally (or purposefully) kill someone
Why Someone Might Love Them:
if you’re about grey moralities, ambiguity, and anti-heroes, you’ll probably love Fallane. he’s also very protective, and a single dad of energetic twins so there’s no shortage of relatability, either. but I think a lot of his charm comes from his interactions with other characters, because he feels very strongly and brings many things other characters are afraid to say. there’s a weighty sense of honesty with him, and a real desire to do right by the world and help the downtrodden. he also struggles with trauma and mental illness and he’s really, really messed up but he
tries
and sometimes he fails and I think people will find a surprising amount to identify with. Fallane is my ultimate walking contradiction, but I think it works.
Why Someone Might Hate Them:
I feel like he’s a character people would be just indifferent toward UNTIL people started being apologists and saying he does nothing wrong and then he’d be one of those characters that the fandom just splits on, as polarizing ends get increasingly more argumentative. he can be manipulative too and I think people might take issue with things like that, but I feel like most people who would actively hate him would be misinterpreting him. he’s not supposed to be a paragon of good morality
How They Change:
in the first few waves of this ‘verse Fallane was a definite villain, if a hero-aiding anti-villain. then I decided villains were overrated and now there’s no villains, just a complicated mess of varying degrees of grey morality. in canon, this is reflected. he goes from a certain ‘I can’t do anything substantial about it so I just won’t bother’ to someone who
acts
on his desire to combat discrimination and abuse. he also gets his family back, and gains a little sister, and he’s constantly learning how to love (in every way) and how to
live
.
Why You Love Them:
honestly?
because
he’s learning how to live. much of Fallane’s backstory (and his role-switch from anti-villain to anti-hero) came from when I got over being suicidal, so he’s sometimes a comfort character. ngl, I also love his aesthetic. I’m also a bit biased because he has ocd and I have ocd and that’s relatable too and it makes his aesthetic
extra
relatable. he’s also incredibly emotional and that’s always an adventure to write. I really love Fallane guys.
also this ao3 tag is like the greatest descriptor of him:
Full Name: Eliza Fate
Gender and Sexuality:
female, bisexual
Pronouns
: She/Her
Ethnicity/Species:
English. and she’s a vampire so uh yea
Birthplace and Birthdate:
England and uh….. like…. idk….. a long time ago
Guilty Pleasures:
both slow and fast jazz music. also she’s surprisingly good with children - I like to think that sometimes, she volunteers at daycare-like-places in the shadier parts of town where there’s too many kids and not enough workers and she just helps out these toddlers and teaches them to jazz dance, the way you teach little kids anything, which is hold them and pretend they’re following anything you’re saying
Phobias:
I don’t think she’s phobic of anything, but she’s afraid of losing her family. they’re very important to her and I think her deepest fear is that someday she’s going to wake up completely alone. she’s not afraid of any one person leaving (obviously she’d be upset), it’s just the idea that
everyone
could disappear
What They Would Be Famous For:
she’s kind of famous within the criminal underworld because she’s like a mob boss, and she’s mostly famous for having a very large family, and for being independent. she went almost two centuries without a right-hand man/woman/etc which, especially as a woman, was quite unique
What They Would Get Arrested For:
I mean she already murders ppl and runs a mafia so that
could
get her arrested, but if she ever got caught it’d probably be something like she murdered a child abuser or something really,
really
violently and not well-planned
OC You Ship Them With:
Itsuki, who’s her canon boyfriend, and Andrea, who’s her canon girlfriend. she’s poly and her relationships are usually open relationships, including with those two. I also ship her hardcore with Katsumi, although that’s a very different dynamic (1960s lots of drugs and alcohol and free sex and it’s about pushing each other further and further and not always healthy but they know that and it’s okay). I feel like Eliza would be really great for romance fanfic because you can go with many time periods!
OC Most Likely To Murder Them:
Rin. boi Rin has wanted to murder her since he met her probably, he just hated her on principle and then Eliza went and decided she liked Itsuki so Rin hated that and
then
she started dating Katsumi too and so she’s in love with both his roommates and that pisses Rin off. it’s funny.
actually it’s often really depressing because they end up blaming each other for Katsumi’s death and just about everything else and I think Rin might actually wish she had never existed but
usually it’s a sarcastic ‘I would murder you right now Eliza I swear’
Favorite Movie/Book Genre:
slice of life. I think she likes the variety and the normalcy of it all, and she usually thinks the couples are cute. her least favorite genre is probably mystery
Least Favorite Movie/Book Cliche:
love triangles. they’re way, way overdone. also they invalidate the possibility of poly or open relationships. on a less serious note, she hates any mystery story that ends with like ‘the detective was the culprit all along!’ there’s not really a reason why she hates that but. she does. I made her I make the rules
Talents and/or Powers:
powers: well, she’s a vampire. talents: charisma. she is very good at getting people to understand her viewpoint, when she puts her foot down on something, which is rare. she’s also good at dancing. and very good at sex too apparently. she’s good with children too! but only really smol ones, once they get above like 5 they’re usually assholes
Why Someone Might Love Them:
she’s strong, and independent, and I think she’s over all a good person. she doesn’t take shit from people, but she doesn’t assume that people
are
giving her shit. she’s quite easy-going, all-in-all. she’s also really loving to her family, and in many ways she fulfills feminine roles, but the way she does them and the way she thinks about them are empowering, I think
Why Someone Might Hate Them:
when Eliza was first conceptualized in mid high school, I was terrified that people would see her as bad representation because she’s not morally straight
and
I worried that making her bi and poly would make people angry. but I think I’ve mostly gotten past that? idk. but I definitely think people might dislike her for her constant relationships - she doesn’t do well if she doesn’t have at least one datemate, and people might see that as too dependent or needy. she sometimes comes across as needy, so there’s that. I think there’d definitely be Eliza Fate stans and Eliza Fate haters
How They Change:
you get to see her progression from the civil rights era to present day, and she does change a bit, but overall she’s one of the most stable characters in this ‘verse. she really learns to accept rejection, and since she adopts a literal child (Nayeli) into her family and doesn’t raise Nayeli with any expectations of her joining the Family, I think she learns to work with people during their formative adolescent years, too
Why You Love Them:
Eliza is a character from the second wave of this ‘verse, so she’s quite old to have changed so little. I also love how she can differ depending on the time, so her roles change depending on the context. her personality doesn’t really change between any of them, but she’s a very complex character (a side effect of having been in my head for at least 5 years) and you can actually
see
all her facets. also she’s a mob boss mom??? like that’s cool idk she’s super suave and i’m gay
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So it’s been 2 days and I am still like feeling residual anxiety abt this so I figured I’d make a post and see if that helped any. (warning for mentions of racism/homophobia)
I live/work in a mostly white, very conservative area. It sucks but it is unfortunately where I’m at rn. Some days are better than others and most of the time I just can avoid talking about any social issues with people and I’m cis/straight passing, even if I do come off as weird or a loner or whatever.
Anyway there are a couple of our regular (like there every week, all thru the year) volunteers that have been vocal about their various views, but it was usually not a drawn out thing. Since we’ve opened back up this year, however, one in particular has on almost every occasion, said some form of racist/queerphobic statement. I think maybe she spent too much time over quarantine inside that specific shitty facebook side of the internet which has made her more intolerable. idk.
This week she got started in because costco has discontinued the brand of pimento cheese we used to get for events (rightfully so tbh), and got into an echo chamber with another very vocal bigot. They went on to have a rant for at least 40 minutes instead of getting work done (while I may add, my boss was there with them and contributing her own homophobic statements instead of like trying to veer the convo back to fucking christmas tea).
It began with “well they’re right, BLM is a terrorist organization” and devolved into how these two women are boycotting lego and carter (a kid’s clothes brand) because these “demons have taken god’s rainbow and made it something bad. they’re just like satan!” by which they meant they went to a fucking walmart and saw a baby shirt with a rainbow on it and it wasn’t labeled for “boys” or “girls” because it’s for fucking babies who don’t give a shit about anything anyway.
And then the other woman started in like “I don’t have anything against gay people, my daughter is gay, but I don’t support the social movement. It’s not healthy or natural!” and that made them all go off about pride parades. “Why do they get special rights?? we never had a hetero parade!”
and about that time I just gathered my shit together and took an early lunch so like god knows how long this continued.
When I returned they had both left, thankfully because I would have considered like faking an illness or something tbh had they still been there. And like I said, these two specifically have said things, and my boss has said some wild ass shit that I just kind of have to ignore that it happened, but never to this extent of like a 45 minute screed. SO I managed to somehow combat my anxiety and like normal avoidance of conflict and I said to my boss, “so I’m not sure how to bring this up, but that discussion y’all were having made me uncomfortable, that’s why I left early. I’ve noticed that’s happening more frequently, is there any way I can have a different work day, or do different hours to avoid this?”
She looked at me like I had three heads and asked “well why did that make you uncomfortable??” and I’m not a dumbass so I was like “well, it just really got to my anxiety (she knows I have this b/c unfortunately I was diagnosed when mom was alive and told everyone all of my business when she would help out there), and I don’t mind removing myself from the situation since I felt (and here I fucked up but couldn’t think of another word) unsafe”
Ofc she flagged that right away and said “unsafe?? what do you mean??” so I bluffed it off like “oh, that’s just how my anxiety responds, I can’t really explain it” which I think was fine, she seemed to accept that. But then she said “Well I will consider it, and I will mention to (Karen1) that she needs to stay on topic. But honestly you just need to be more accepting of other people’s opinions”
So that’s gonna solve absolutely zero problems. Idk. Like I have a lot of reasons I like working where I do, but it emotionally very uh draining on me.
I think writing this out has at least got it out of my brain. I am still anxious about if it’s going to happen again next week, and then we’re ramping up for our seasonal events so I will have to see more of all of these people.
ANYWAY, this was a very long explanation of events, <3 if you read this whole thing.
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What are some oq fics that you would recommend?
okay i took the greatest of care selecting what matters most to me. i also categorized as best as i could so it wouldn’t look like a mess of links i was just throwing at you – even though they’re all pretty much complete AUs, but i also attempted to summarize to help. bc you’re worth it, nonnie.
that being said, i’ve been awake since 2 in the morning, so i for sure forgot a lot of fics, and this is probably still a mess. regardless, this will be my oq fic rec masterpost that i will add more to when i’m not so tired.
- ̗̀ modern AUs ̖́-
sunny side up (by @queen-of-the-merry-men, in-progress) - robin asks regina for her eggs during breakfast one day, but it turns out he means the baby-making kind. this fic’s still getting started, but it’s so adorable so far, and i’m so in love with how this person writes platonic bffs robin and regina, it’s so sweet and enjoyable to read while you wait for them to realize they’re in love with each other
what would they say (by @queen-of-the-merry-men, in-progress) - aka (bc i gotta warn you) the most epic slowburn to ever slowburn. like, some people try to give that trophy to other fics, but i strongly disagree bc i definitely count fic years, and boiiiii. i don’t even know how to summarize this… the gist, regina falls in love with the husband of her late best friend. the long, regina goes through some serious shit (including her best friend dying), and robin’s a real supportive guy, a good boy (who also goes through some shit i.e. his wife dying), and they fall in love
you’ve got mail (by @gray-autumn-sky, complete) - based on the movie (that i will watch one day), robin and regina become pen pals, not knowing they hate each other in real life. you know you can’t resist an enemies-to-lovers trope, bc no one can resist an enemies-to-lovers trope. and it’s written by tara, a quality person, so there. tbh i don’t know how to properly flail about how much i love this oneshot without spoiling it, so just know that i do, and should the day come that more is added to this verse i will spontaneously combust.
time just flies, but i still carry on (by @robinwright, in-progress) - idk how to summarize this without spoiling. to put it vaguely, robin’s an asshole and four years later he’s back to fix his mistakes. i just feel assaulted by this fic, and i need cassie to formally apologize for it (through a prequel and a happy sequel please
baby gates and deadbolts (by @x-wishes-on-fallen-stars-x, in-progress) - regina meets a baby roland at the store, and he approves of her hair. adorable, with undertones of emo bc it’s gabi. but it’s sweet, and full of parent OQ, which i’m always weak for.
eye of the beholder (by @mysterious-song, in-progress) - a blind robin falls in love with regina’s voice. this fic is so sweetly written, i’m just in silent awe. it’s beautiful. i want more so bad.
the song that summer sings (by @writtenndust, in-progress) - movie-star regina walks into robin’s humble bookstore, and wholesome love happens. you have no idea how far up this fic’s ass i am. i’m so in love. it’s so adorable. like, why am i still talking? why are you still here reading this? go read the fic. already read it? read it again.
- ̗̀ supernatural AUs ̖́-
fallen (by @dee-thequeenbee, in-progress) - demons. fallen angels, actually, walking the earth, fucking shit up. of course regina’s one of them. and of course robin’s gotta get in her way. this concept is so cool, i love that this fic exists, and i can’t wait to see it progress
wild hearts (by @regal-pixiedust, in-progress) - amidst a zombie apocalypse, regina meets the survival group of robin, henry, roland, and david, and together they try not to die. stressful af, but there’s a healthy dose of regal believer in here, too, so it’s worth it.
broken souls (by @regal-pixiedust, in-progress) - regina can see dead people. she used to help ghosts move on in her younger days, and robin’s newly dead wife insists she gets back into the hobby. this fic is a wild ride from start to almost-finish, and i’ve loved every second of it.
- ̗̀ historical/magical AUs ̖́-
happiness can’t be arranged (by @gray-autumn-sky, in-progress) - set in some time period that’s not now (i don’t know history, sorry tara), robin and regina are forced to marry each other. basically you read this fic and alternate between NOW KISS and wondering when robin and regina’s parents are finally going to die. but it’s also some quality hood-mills family stuff, and it gets even more adorable by the chapter, so you’re welcome
in sickness and in health (by @mysterious-song, complete) - a memory-loss AU (i, am trash for memory loss AUs. there aren’t enough of them). an adorable oneshot of robin waking up in the hospital to a pretty lady, whom he immediately wishes he was married to. his wish comes true. i love this oneshot so much, it’s so cute, and i wish every day that there was more
oq prompt party: sabrina au (by @lala-kate) - based on the movie sabrina. assuming bad intentions, robin tries to romance regina away from his infatuated brother in order to protect their family’s fortune. he falls in love with her instead. i first read this while i was not in a good enough mindset to reblog (and i’m sorry about that), but i fell in love. i would give a limb for this to continue. whatever you want.
not unless you wish it (by @miladylocksley, in-progress) - after a heist, robin finds a genie lamp amongst his new possessions, and out pops regina. you know when fics just kinda stay with you? and their existence just pops into your head randomly? that’s this fic. every now and then my brain is just like ‘remember the genie au?’ i do, brain. i do.
- ̗̀ canon-divergent AUs ̖́-
from the missing pages (by @gray-autumn-sky, complete) - a page 23 AU. baby regina walks into the tavern that night, and meets robin. the only page 23 au that matters to me (the only one i’ve read fully, but whatever). it’s sweet, it’s stressful, and it makes for a nice reread every now and then
oq allergy-verse (by @gray-autumn-sky) - two super adorable s3-AU baby ficlets, here and here. regina, soulmate to her forest-bound thief, is allergic to trees. and robin’s gotta deal with that heartbreak. tbh i’m just hoping that if i keep talking about this tiny verse, tara will continue to add to it, so here we are
chimera (by @revolutionsoftheheart, in-progress) - post-s5 AU. zelena dies, and regina’s left to raise baby peanut. five-year-old baby peanut decides to scare the shit out of her aunt with her new imaginary friend. this fic is painful, and it hurts too. but i’m so intrigued as to where jakie’s planning to take it, so i’m here. hurting.
- ̗̀ holiday AUs ̖́-
actually, love (by @revolutionsoftheheart, complete) - a snow storm leaves robin no other choice than to spend christmas with his ex, regina. this fic right here is the main reason this category exists. i love it so much.
ethereal (by @revolutionsoftheheart, complete) - two strangers meet in their dreams, and fall in love. basically jakie’s the queen of holiday one-shots. this is everything i could’ve wanted and more, and i’m still so happy she wrote it
i hope this list is in any way beneficial
#oq fic rec#fanfic#outlaw queen#ouat#fic rec masterpost#ask#i'm gonna be angry when i realize all the fics i forgot to add to this#check back anon if you wish#it will be updated#Anonymous
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I'm the MAP anon: I'm gonna be honest with you, so much of your MAP discourse is a) long and rather unwieldy to read and b) seemingly focused on only the intrusive thoughts as a reason not to blame MAPs for anything. It was hard to get a read on your position, as my experience with you was you defending anti-contact MAPs, and given the person's blog I sent you say they're anti-contact, it came off as you defending them as well.
To clarify: my argument was in the scope of that anti-contact, who was still actively and wilfully sexualising minors, one of which was indeed an actual child and another who was being sexualised for when they were a child.
I @ed you not because of anything you said specifically anyway, but because you seemed to be the MAP expert on the blog. You couldn't have known that of course.
Lastly, please bear in mind that:
a) the person I sent you is someone I found through a third party blog, in addition to the fact that you yourself go on about them a lot, so all your instances of you chastising me for “seeking out” MAPs is pointless, and
b) the MAP in those screenshots states they're anti-contact, so this isn't just about the "bad" side of MAPs. It's perfectly reasonable for an outsider to see people like her and think that “anti-contact” is one stop above virtue signalling, and they're just as irredeemable. You know how people go on about how feminists need to do in-house cleaning if they want to avoid people disliking the movement? It's the same for the MAP community as well.
That said: I do genuinely apologise for not reading your arguments through properly. As much as an excuse as this sounds, my executive dysfunction issues make it hard to read as many paragraphs as you write on this subject - I am trying, but still, I dropped the ball a bit. I'm also sorry as well that I basically forced you to reiterate points you've already made probably a fair number of times before, because I know that's annoying af.
So that said, any instance I was misrepresenting your arguments you're free to ignore and I won't respond to your refutements of them since bascially we are actually much on the same page now I know who I'm talking to. There are a bunch of other things I could address but I feel it would be a waste of both our times, so I'll focus only on a few things that really jumped out.
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what about the countries where young boys and girls are routinely used as prostitutes, where assaulting young boys regularly is “tradition”?
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Maybe I’m just manipulated, maybe there’s some grand scheme to turn everybody in the western world into pro-contacts, and a tiny anti-contact community on tumblr dot com is where the disgusting revolution begins… but I highly doubt it.
The old “what about starving children in Africa” argument is not a decent counterpoint to anything since people started using it. One (1) submission to you about MAPs isn't me deciding that's more important issue of child abuse, and you have no idea what else I could be doing day to day.
Also: have you considered that the reason I even sent that in the first place is because of places like that? For example: the west has a keen problem with sexualising young boys, telling them that if older women prey on them they should be grateful, and that it's not rape because boys inherently want sex 24/7. So that MAP and others like her are an issue because hey, they aren't helping that.
Small-scale abuse is still abuse. One minor being preyed on it too many. Other, truly non-offending MAPs getting caught in the crossfire is unfortunate though.
(Also I thought you'd appreciate the juxtaposition of your “child abuse is acceptable on a societal level in some places” comment and the sarcastic “who's trying to make child abuse acceptable on a societal level?” comment.)
[…] but I don’t think that means that they’re not ever allowed to talk about it, or that it’s harming children if they ever do, just that it’s gotta be done safely and reasonably.
You sound just like an anti-shipper right now, honestly.
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Do you feel the same way about people who ship certain ships and talk openly about it?
I knew you were going to bring in anti-shipping. I had had no idea why you would then, and I don't now, but I knew you were going to do it.
Anti arguments are ridiculous because they're about fiction. Getting off to Loli hurts no one because no child was abused to get those pictures. Shipping a 17 yo with a 25 yo, or an abusive relationship, or whatever hurts no one because they aren't real.
MAPs are real people attracted to real minors, so any argument against discussions of their attraction can't just be conflated with anti-shipping. You've already given me plenty of other decent enough reasons, bringing in anti-shipping is at best redundant and at worst conflates real life attraction to minors, and the expression thereof, with fiction. Remember one of the most important points in the anti anti argument is that reality and fiction aren't the same.
Also I don't appreciate being inferred as some kind of pearl-clutcher because I find it abhorrent to have come across an “anti-contact” MAP making explicit comments about at least three real children, one of which they were discussing with another MAP. Half the point was it wasn't done safely or reasonably.
Idk is there a word that differentiates anti-contacts who are like her and anti-contacts who find anything like that abhorrent? If not, that'd be my advice to the community.
If you demonize the act of thinking that thought and the thought itself, rather than the content of the thought if made real, what do you hope to achieve other than causing unnecessary mental strain on a person that could negatively impact their coping?
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That’s like saying that my arthritis isn’t okay, it’s not reasonable… like, it doesn’t matter, I’ve still got arthritis.
You seem to have the wrong idea – I'm not demonising the act of having the thought. I'm demonising the content of said thought, as well as the shitty way it can be (and was in that example) expressed.
I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this point tbh. My mother's rheumatoid isn't okay, you may think it's pointless to bring it up but she sees the fact that people don't really acknowledge how “not okay” it is as irritating.
Half the reason I've been able to deal with my depression was acknowledging my thoughts about myself aren't okay, and the only reason I went to the doctor in the first place. The more I remind myself that the contents of those self-hating thoughts aren't okay (namely that it would be actively abusive to be saying these things to someone else for the same reason I say them to myself), the more I'm taking care of myself.
The kind of intrusive thoughts we're talking about with MAPs are probably a different breed to mine, of course. However: that MAP and her pals would do well remembering that the contents of her thoughts, though not something she can help having, are not okay, because the way she's expressing that indicates she very much doesn't care.
You may think it's not important. I disagree.
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There are other things as I said but ehhhh there's no point in arguing with someone you agree with on most things on the basis that we're on differing sides on less important ones. Kinda embarassed I ended up being someone who doesn't do their due dilligence eheh, this is a viceral topic for me so I got ahead of myself. Sorry again.
Previous submission: http://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/167987980707/submission-mod-vaporeon-i-guess-look-i-aint-a
"focused on only the intrusive thoughts as a reason not to blame MAPs for anything"
Not what I'm doing. Maps don't necessarily have intrusive thoughts, they have thoughts and attractions that they didn't choose to have - intrusive thoughts are just something I have that is comparable, and thus that I can empathize with them through. Intrusive thoughts are also something antis have taken to demonizing too lately, and I find that kind of thought policing to be dangerous to those suffering with unwanted thoughts. But none of that means that I'm removing blame from actions or speech.
"given the person's blog I sent you say they're anti-contact, it came off as you defending them as well"
I don't follow cinnamap, but I know that they're anti-contact. If my arguments defending anti-contact positions are also defending their position on those topics, then I'm glad we agree on those things, but that doesn't extend to me defending every view cinnamap has or everything they've ever done.
"my argument was in the scope of that anti-contact"
I apologize for assuming, by your wording and your claims that it was proof of a larger problem in their community, that you were extending blame to other anti-contact maps or justifying judgement against them based on those actions. As I said in the other post, I'll happily have a conversation about how to avoid and rectify situations like those posts.
"who was still actively and wilfully sexualising minors"
I know this is dark and I don't wanna have to say it, honestly it's awful to think about but... at the end of the day, that's what their condition is. The paraphilia is a sexual attraction to children. It can't be magicked away, only coped with. The conversation we're having, in regards to cinnamap, was whether that particular instance of "coping" was more harmful than good to them and others, and how to mitigate that in the future.
"so all your instances of you chastising me for “seeking out” MAPs is pointless"
I wasn't chastising you for that, I had no idea how you came across the stuff - I was chastising antis who actively seek it out to trigger themselves and to attack people. It's not healthy for them and it doesn't help prevention efforts.
"the MAP in those screenshots states they're anti-contact, so this isn't just about the "bad" side of MAPs. It's perfectly reasonable for an outsider to see people like her and think that “anti-contact” is one stop above virtue signalling"
In some of the reblogs on this post, I've talked about, to paraphrase, how pro-contacts are all assholes, but that doesn't mean that anti-contacts are incapable of being assholes: http://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/167769139872/what-the-hell-are-maps
Just because a stance or behaviour isn't pro-contact doesn't mean that it's not flawed or bad in some way. I don't think that anti-contacts are all angels, but judging all anti-contacts by the bad eggs within their anti-contact community (which is what I was saying in the last post), especially when the core of the stance is such an important thing in prevention, would be daft.
Additionally, anti-contact isn't just virtue signaling in this case, it's a stance genuinely held and maintained by cinnamap - anti-contact refers to sexual or romantic contact, criminal offenses, it doesn't refer to whether or not you talk about kids. If I hold the stance that theft is wrong, it doesn't become virtue signaling to hold and maintain that stance even if I'm completely fine with saying that I sometimes think about driving a Ferrari (which I could never afford, ergo would have to steal in order to drive) - as long as I don't steal the Ferrari, I'm still maintaining the morality that I espouse. People read a lot into "anti-contact" and want it to mean more than it does, and then accuse someone who fully adheres to the actual definition of the label, of not being anti-contact because they don't adhere to the add-ons.
It's unreasonable to judge an entire community by a couple of posts written by one person - if somebody is too lazy to do further research into the community and what opinions are essential to it, and what opinions are varied, then they shouldn't be commenting on that community or passing judgements. That's even more extreme than saying that it's perfectly reasonable to judge all football fans by the actions of the football hooligans, without researching what it means to be a football fan or what the vast majority of them are like.
"You know how people go on about how feminists need to do in-house cleaning if they want to avoid people disliking the movement? It's the same for the MAP community as well"
Which is a stance I supported in the very post you're replying to.
"The old “what about starving children in Africa” argument is not a decent counterpoint to anything since people started using it"
That wasn't what I was saying, and I'm sorry that I worded it in a way that could be read as such. I was saying that there are places where such things are normalized, but those practices in those places are considered abominable by our society, there's global effort to prevent them, there's hatred across the western world for pedophilia that exceeds the hatred people have for cannibalistic murderous psychopaths by a longshot. My point was that it isn't going to be normalized here, and that anti-contacts don't want the action normalized or legalized whatsoever, but that there are people out there who do and anti-contacts are as against those people as you and I. My argument was more that what you're talking about is being done by a completely different group and opposed by this group, because from your wording I believed your argument to be that there was some effort within the anti-contact community to normalize assaulting kids.
"Also I thought you'd appreciate the juxtaposition of your “child abuse is acceptable on a societal level in some places” comment and the sarcastic “who's trying to make child abuse acceptable on a societal level?” comment."
Given that my point was "these people are, these people aren't", how do the points at all contradict? Also, it wasn't sarcastic - I genuinely do highly doubt that there's some manipulation conspiracy to normalize it step by step, but it's not impossible, and it's not impossible that good intentioned small movements with positive goals end up supporting much eviler movements, look at radical feminism. Hence why I push so hard for their community to not become an echochamber.
"I knew you were going to bring in anti-shipping. I had had no idea why you would then, and I don't now, but I knew you were going to do it."
I should've expanded on that point:
a) In regards to the words normalizing things and harming the wider populace - it's a tiny hated group on a tiny hated website, it has no normalizing power in the real world, and when done properly (adequately tagged, nsfw, private, etc), it wouldn't fall into the lap of anybody vulnerable enough to be hurt by it (aside from when blogs like the one you linked spreading it in screenshots that other people don't adequately tag, I suppose). One example definitely isn't normalizing anything.
b) You can completely normalize an idea, be 100% okay with the idea, fantasize about it 24/7 (which cinnamap wasn't doing but whatever), and the action still isn't normalized. I've watched so much horror, and I daydream about murder on the regular, I daydream about murdering noisy kids in the shop or people who've wronged me or the neighbour that puts up too many Christmas lights... but I've never killed anybody to my knowledge. I know that murder is wrong and I don't want to actually do it... even if I figuratively want to do it. There's a huge difference between fantasy and action, even when you're fantasizing about real people or actively discussing them.
Along those two veins, I believe that your argument has some of the same flaws as anti-shipper arguments, in regards to the normalizing power of the target group and words in general, and in regards to the level of effect that normalization could have on actions.
"Anti arguments are ridiculous because they're about fiction"
Even if fantasy is about real people, it's still fantasy - a description of a historical figure's aesthetic in a fictional book with commentary on their aesthetic appeal is still fiction. If you have a rape fantasy about somebody you actually know, it's still just a fantasy. From where I stand, as somebody who knows none of those people, as an outsider, there is no difference to the post's impact on me whether cinnamap was talking about a real person or a fictional character. The porn blogs that post short rape stories with gifs to match, and word them as though they're true stories from themselves or others, come across as more real and visceral, and they get put in all sorts of coping and mental health tags without being marked as NSFW.
Honestly, if "I saw a hot kid" on your personal blog that's covered in the word "map", marked as nsfw, and keeping the post out of random tags, is the worst you're doing, you're not really one of the bad bad ones, like, just have a little perspective regarding what they could be doing. It's just words, at the end of the day (disturbing words, but still just words that can be criticized), and I think this conversation alone, let alone the notes on the post you linked, has shown that people will come out in force against that and attempt to correct that behaviour... which is good, as I said, I'm against the post and even small problems are still problems - they're just not problems that justify assuming everyone in the community to be not genuine about the anti-contact position.
This isn't to say "there's worse out there so we can't complain", but rather, complain on par with what is happening - having a little suspicion about their morality and extending questions about that and expressing discomfort with the wording I can definitely understand, especially if you're not very aware of things like what anti-contact means or haven't read any of their other posts, but I cannot understand condemning the whole community with it, accusing it of "normalizing" anything, exaggerating its capability for causing harm, or assuming it a definitive statement on that person's moral code or intent regarding action.
I disagree with the posts, as I've said, I think it was crude and potentially very triggering, but I don't think it had any power to normalize anything or inflict large-scale harm - like anti-shippers, you're inflating the reach and impact of the post, when I think a simpler critique is warranted. If my friend gets drunk and gets into a fight in the pub, I don't say "Your anti-murder stance is basically virtue signaling, I can't trust you or any pub-goers, you're normalizing murder", I say "Stop being a dick, Frank".
"MAPs are real people attracted to real minors, so any argument against discussions of their attraction can't just be conflated with anti-shipping."
I'm not conflating them, I was remarking on an error in your argument that is also an error in theirs - comparison, not conflating. I'm sorry that it came across like I was though, it was badly worded.
"Also I don't appreciate being inferred as some kind of pearl-clutcher"
I wasn't inferring that, I was inferring that your argument had some of the same flaws as theirs. Just because you're both emotionally opposed to something and believe that it causes significant harm and poses significant risk doesn't mean that I'd refer to you both with the same pejorative label - especially when I've expressed opposition to that same post multiple times myself.
"Idk is there a word that differentiates anti-contacts who are like her and anti-contacts who find anything like that abhorrent? If not, that'd be my advice to the community."
I've expressed something similar about the opinion of keeping their distance from kids: http://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/167831648067/did-you-even-try-to-address-any-of-the-points-on
Whether they should divide into smaller groups based on these opinion differences, or whether they should just leave it down to "we're obviously gonna disagree on some things even though we agree on others", is up to them to talk out amongst themselves.
"You seem to have the wrong idea – I'm not demonising the act of having the thought. I'm demonising the content of said thought, as well as the shitty way it can be (and was in that example) expressed."
If the content of the thought is demonized in the context of a thought, and not simply demonizing it in the context of action or specific kinds of expression of that thing, then you are demonizing the act of having the thought. I, personally, think the thoughts are gross and disturbing, however I'm not going to extend ethical judgment to that as the thoughts are not optional, just my own personal emotional judgement that allows people to understand that I don't personally want to hear that stuff unless I've been asked first if I'm in a mood where I can handle hearing it (for example if I'm needed to offer some kind of emotional help through a tough brain day).
There's a big difference between demonizing something, and acknowledging the risks of dwelling on something, acknowledging the emotional impact of it, acknowledging that it would be horrific in reality. A thought is just a thought, just a fantasy, just fiction - like I said in one of the posts I linked to you in my prior response, thoughts definitely can lead to behaviour, but if you're aware that it shouldn't be acted upon and you make the correct safety nets and decisions to prevent such a thing, there's no real reason to begin demonizing something that you cannot help, something that you're forced to mentally endure at length regularly, instead of simply coming to terms with the fact that it's just neurons firing and it has no power. Taking away its power actually helps with resisting.
"My mother's rheumatoid isn't okay, you may think it's pointless to bring it up but she sees the fact that people don't really acknowledge how “not okay” it is as irritating."
The point is that the arthritis not being okay doesn't reflect on the person who has the arthritis - if I'd done something you disliked, you wouldn't bring up the ethics of my arthritis as a way to insult me. If I'd stayed in bed all day because I couldn't move because of my arthritis, you wouldn't say "arthritis isn't okay, it's not reasonable, just get up". Whether the arthritis is "okay" or not doesn't change the fact that it's there, doesn't change whether or not I'm a good person, was my point. Whether it's "okay", in the context of a conversation where it's actually useful to discuss that, would be in reference to how much pain it causes, the stress it causes, the impact it has on life, how to mitigate those things (sympathetic not accusatory) - whether it's "okay" has no place in a conversation about morality. You're switching between two meanings of "okay" and two contexts of using it, and using one to justify the other.
I can't believe that you took my point so out of context here and you sound like you're implying that me, somebody with arthritis, is sat here going "I wish people would just never acknowledge how much it hurts".
You said: “We can accept that MAPs have little to no control over their attraction without accepting that their attraction is valid, reasonable or worth discussing except to demonise.”
Valid and reasonable are both judgements on whether something can or should exist or happen - something unreasonable and invalid should not happen. My point was that there is no point making ethical or logical judgments on the person or on the existence of arthritis or the thoughts, because those things exist and cannot just disappear - demonizing my arthritis, or them demonizing the thoughts, only leads to stress, while accepting limitations, addressing risks, and learning mindfulness are substantially better when faced with things that you can't change than anger and distress. Validity and okayness were pointless to bring up in the context in which you brought them up, because whether valid or invalid, reasonable or unreasonable, okay or not okay, these things are here to stay.
"The more I remind myself that the contents of those self-hating thoughts aren't okay [...]"
What are we using okay to mean now? You seem to change what "okay" means a few times in your replies, initially implying it means "ethical" but now implying it means "healthy".
You could change your thoughts, they can't. Healthy or ethical don't matter - if the conversation is about judgement or whether they should or shouldn't have them - if they're inevitable. If we're talking about reminding yourself of the emotional strain such thoughts can have on others if said to them, reminding yourself that they're dangerous thoughts to allow to consume you, and so on, then yes I believe that's good to remind yourself. If we're using "okay" to mean "ethical" again, and demonizing the thoughts and thereby demonizing the act of thinking them and the person who thinks them, leading to low self-esteem, isolation, and other emotional issues that can increase the risk of offending, then no I don't think it's a good idea for them to remind themselves of that.
"However: that MAP and her pals would do well remembering that the contents of her thoughts, though not something she can help having, are not okay, because the way she's expressing that indicates she very much doesn't care."
A better way to word this - if you mean what I think you mean, or what I would want to say - would be to remember the risk of discomfort to others that comes with the expression of such thoughts, and remember that your wording can convey to others a sense of how strongly you do or do not wish to refrain from very disturbing actions, and however strongly and genuinely you actually feel about that refraining they can't read minds and will make assumptions. Thoughts are just neurons firing, I won't bother judging ethically something that isn't harming anybody, I'm not the thought police - the behaviour is what causes the harm. Once the behaviour is controlled and the thoughts cannot overpower mental and physical safeguards, they're absolutely amoral.
"Kinda embarassed I ended up being someone who doesn't do their due dilligence eheh, this is a viceral topic for me so I got ahead of myself. Sorry again."
That's okay, I've actually been really mentally fucked - depressed, hallucinating, all that fun stuff. And this topic kinda makes me wanna die sometimes. My responses haven't been fantastic and I'm sorry that it's not been a very smooth chat.
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BTS Single Parent AU
kookies-and-myrok asked: Hello, sweets! I love your writing and I'm not just saying that Lol i always get excited when you post smt, anyways do you write parent au's? If you do can I get a BTS reaction about what they would be like as a single parent? If not then its okay! Keep up the great work 💜
This doesn’t necessarily work as a reaction, but I can do a little like... bullet drabble or whatever on this. Either way, very doable. - Admin Dayna
Seokjin
There’s like... this anime called Amaama to Inazuma (a.k.a. Sweetness and Lightning) which is basically about a single father who raises his daughter to the best of his abilities but he can’t cook as well as his wife (who passed away). I see Single Parent!Jin being like that... except in Jin’s case he can actually throw down in a kitchen
Lots of love and affection
Smothers his baby girl with kisses before dropping her off to daycare and after picking her up
The daycare moms thirst after him bOI
His cookies sold out the fastest at the school bakery
Partially because Daycare Moms are trying to give him the succ
Mainly because his cookies are bomb asf
He got hoes
Reads/sings his daughter to sleep at night religiously
Chocolate covered Strawberries while they watch cartoons together
Shed a single tear in the beginning of Finding Nemo evRYTIM
Was literally floating on air for like a month because his daughter told him he was the “handsomest appa”
Tries really hard to scold his baby girl
Can’t look her in the face when he does it because she’s too damn cute
Puppy Dog Eyes work every once in a while tbh
Will cAUSE A FUCKING SCENE IF HE EVER HEARD SOMEONE WAS BULLYING HIS CHILD
Dad jokes, fucking duh.
Yoongi
Picture this: Yoongi is chilling, right? Lounging on the sofa, watching some psychological mystery film or whatever emo shit he watches. His face is pretty indifferent. He’s unbothered asf. His right arm is covered in scribbles and squiggles. His 7 year old son is currently surrounded by markers, casually doodling on his dad’s arm.
Lets his son choose whatever toys he wants
If his baby boy wants a nerf gun, he’ll get a nerf gun.
If his baby boy wants a fucking bubblegum pink barbie jeep atv, he’s getting a fucking bubblegum pink barbie jeep atv.
Also lets his kid wear whatever he wants
Supports the creative and imaginative endeavors of his child
Does not support coloRING ON THE WALL YOU LIL DEMON BABY
Sometimes stares at his child and thinks “whose mans is this?”
Also looks at his child and thinks “that’s the love of my life”.
One time considered redecorating his closet just so that he can hang a bunch of mirrors on the wall so that whenever his child does something stupid, he can sit him in that closet and close the door so that he can look at his reflection and reevaluate his 7 years long life.
All in all he’s a super supportive daddio.
He’s not like the other dads.
He’s a Cool Dad™
Hoseok
Sitcom dad.
Literally Phil Dunphy from Modern Family.
Tell his kids a lot of stories about his “glory days”
His preteen daughter is like... hella embarrassed by him, but is highkey just as dorky as he is
Still got the juice
Can be super stern when need be
His kids knows that if they have an issue they can always talk to him about it
Has the warmest hugs when the days been rough
Shares both maternal and fraternal instincts
Can flawlessly switch between motherly and fatherly traits
Tries to make inside jokes with his children
It never works.
“Stop trying to make fetch happen, Hobi. It’s not going to happen”
The best hype man tbh
“YOU SEE THE KID IN THE WHITE SHIRT? THAT’S MINE. I MADE HIM”
Namjoon
You know that cliche where it’s like... the mom leaves the kids alone with the father for a day. And the dad is like “don’t worry honey, I got this” but then the second the mom leaves, there’s toys everywhere, the kids are running around naked, the water he was boiling is on fire, shit has literally hit the fan, the groUND HAS ACTUALLY SPLIT OPEN INTO THE FIERY PITS OF HELL - but he last minute manages to get everything together and in order before the mom comes and finds out?
That’s Namjoon.
Except like... 24/7 without the mom
Super fast dad reflexes
Also kinda annoying dad noises?
Really good at tutoring the kids with school work and stuff
He taught them majority of their math and science formulas by turning them into catchy songs
Has given up trying to be the cool dad yEARS ago
He’s just not about that life
It’s okay though because his kid’s friends thinks he’s cool
Makes sure his children are WOKE ASF
Tries to enforce bedtime
Keeps them up at night by playing games and/or watching movies together
Lets them go out whenever they want as long as they keep in touch often
Lets his kids make mistakes and learn from them instead of sheltering them from harms way
Motivational Speeches that are actually motivational
God awful happy dances
Hangs his kids A+ test papers on the fridge
“If you show me you got straight A’s at the end of the semester, you can absolutely get your nose pierced” (he says to his 14 year old daughter).
Jimin
Everyone knows that one person who has that really young but super hot mom or dad. Like, they’re lowkey popular and often have friends over because their friends kinda just want to be around their good looking parent.
Stacy’s Mom got it going on
Except it’s like... idk... Park Jae Sun’s Appa got it going on...
Whatever you get what I mean.
He’s a Dilf
Lets his kid invite his friends over whenever they want to
Doesn’t realize that his child’s friends are high key checking him out
Constantly checking up on them to see how they’re doing
“Are you guys okay?”
“Is the house too cold?”
“Would you like something to eat/drink?”
“Let me know if you need anything, okay?”
“Don’t be afraid to ask”
A little overbearing if I’m going to be honest
May even shelter his child a little too much
Good morning texts and sticky note reminders around the house
Makes sure his child has food for school everyday, never missing a beat
Proud Dad always
His son is bigger than him
Has to look up at him in order to look his son in the eye to properly reprimand or lecture him
Gets pissed whenever he isn’t taken seriously when giving scoldings
Feels really bad whenever he punishes his kids, and makes up for it with like ice cream or something
Babies make his little mochi heart flutter
Taehyung
He’s the epitome of husband/daddy material. I think Taehyung would make a great dad. He’s the perfect balance of literally all the others.
Which one is the parent and which one is the kid?
Knows how to get down to the level of a child, and properly play with them
Inside jokes with his kids
They say goodbye with aegyo
Openly tells each other they love one another
Likes to squish his baby’s cheeks and blow raspberries on their tummy
Loves the satisfying feeling that follows finally putting a crying baby to sleep
Watches his baby’s tummy rise and fall as they breathe
Hysterically laughs at his child’s laughter
His box smile is strong, and can literally be found in all of his kids.
Also has like, three dogs, but the more the merrier, right?
Isn’t too hard on his kids, but isn’t lenient on them either
Is a healthy medium between strict and easy going
Enforces a proper education but also lets them know that school isn’t the only way to a successful and happy lifestyle
Plays pretend with his children on the weekend
Always ends up in a too small princess dress with ribbons in his hair
Jungkook
You know those kids who are extremely close to their parents to the point where it’s like... and outsider watches the way they talk to their parents and finds it their causality with each other borderline disrespectful? You know those kids who can like... curse around their parents and talks to their parents like it’s another one of their friends and their parent talks back to them just as casually?
That’s the type of dad Jungkook is.
Plays video games with his kids whenever their schedules allow them some free time together
Him and his kids have a group chat together where they share memes and ugly selfies but also like... keep up to date with school events and whatnot
Follows each other on Snapchat, Twitter, and Instagram
Not the best with giving advice, but his kids know that he’s a shoulder they can cry on
Offers to help them with homework, but ends up just as confused
They all live off snacks and the neighborhood ahjumma had to start cooking actual meals for them
His kids actually care and asks their dad’s opinion on stuff about like... hair or clothing or something
He picks up on his kids habits and his kids pick up on his
they look like a bunch of bunnies tbh
They all have their own rooms, but Jungkook and his kids always manage to fall asleep dog piled on the living room sofa
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do all the oc asks ALL of them for AT LEAST two of your ocs (evil laughter)
“evil”
you act as if talking extensively about my ocs does not bring me joy (i’ll only do two probably bc i do have some asks from other people so i’ll have to do those with other ocs, and i’ll try to stick to the same two for the most part.
or three. maybe three.)
anyway let’s begin
1. if they had a tumblr, what would they post about?
Sam: hmm i think probably some blog like. Mostly trans positivity posts with scattered posts abt how much she loves her gf
Amelia: considering her popularity status she’d run some blog like. U kno the blogs tumblr celebrities run i guess? So like. Reblogging a few general funny posts and answering select asks while getting like 200 every day.
2. what’s their favourite colour?
Sam: she likes blue :o like. Light blues. Also she keeps her hair dyed light blue as well
Amelia: purple. Honestly idk much more i can say about this.
3. What makes them laugh?
Sam: shitty puns and memes, mostly. The type of person who laughs out loud when u just say ‘egg’. She’s probably still into ‘xD tacos’ random humour.
Amelia: the polar opposite of sam in this regard. Laughs at intellectual humor. Like. rich fancy people. I know it exists but i cant think of any specific examples. Politely laughs at things people say are funny but she does not find them actually funny.
4. If they had one day left to live, how would they spend it?
Sam: “lmao dw i’ll probably just go to hell anyway” wait no context is important. She’s like. Actually how do i make this not sound bad rip. Uh. basically she is a business partner of lucifer who is actually p chill but that’s another story
Anyway that means like. If she dies she’ll probably just come back as a ghost or a higher tier demon.
O fuk now i really wanna draw that
Amelia: panicking and trying to find a way to not die. She had things she wants to do and a public record to maintain and jeez i just realised how much ames has changed compared the the first universe she was in. i mean YEAH completely different life experiences but rip
5. Do they have any annoying habits?
-this is really subjective bc of what different people consider annoying but
Sam: people say she laughs too much. That is not her annoying habit is, her annoying habit is tellling lucifer when people say that so lucifer can like. Ban them from reincarnation or put a curse on them or something like that. Also sometimes when she cant be bothered to go that extra step she might go into the past and become that person’s grandmother.
...that second one isnt really an annoying habit to most people but to the one guy who has to help keep control of time, it is a very annoying habit and what makes up like half of his job doings.
Amelia: sometimes goes very over the top with things. One time she stole a magic book by becoming a security guard at the place where it was kept and then took the book and ran. So like, instead of doing things illegally, she did it also illegally and got a month’s pay from it as well.
I guess she’s like. Extra™
6. What’s their favourite movie genre?
I s2fg i have mentioned this sometime in one of the long texts i have written involving these characters but i cant remember so
Sam: tbh probably more realistic/contemporary stuff, rom-coms, slice of life, coming of age etc. Like. her life is a science fiction/fantasy movie she’s a time traveler working with the dark lord lucifer ffs. Also she’d probably get annoyed on tiny details while watching historical stuff like
“That never happened”
“Sam it’s fiction, it’s a movie, how would they have known that”
“Well maybe they didn’t know it but it’s still fucking annoying”
Amelia: probably similar to sam, her life is fuckin busy and always people and she’s famous so like. Escape from her life is to indulge in the normal things.
Just as a side note this does take place in a modern-ish fantasy world so idk what fantasy movies would be considered there but. They exist. I’ll work this out sooner or later
Also bonus character bc its fucking funny - Zeph: zephyr likes horror movies. She also likes to watch horror movies with her brother. Her brother does not share her same passion for horror movies. He has a certain threshold before he has to flee the room and cuddle someone. This is mostly why zeph likes horror movies. She is pretty picky with what she considers ‘good’ and spends most of her time making fun of horror movies.
And, like the rest of us, secretly freaks out when she is alone at night and hears a sound outside. But for significantly less long because she knows exactly how to make fun of it.
7. What are their religious beliefs?
Alright i might not (read: will not currently) answer this bc i’m still working out how to handle religion in this, bc basically there is historical evidence for how the world was created. But obviously that’s not the only component to religion?
Another point would be that actually i still havent got around to creating any religions yet.i still gotta get around to getting down a more detailed history of the world first but i am planning it
8. What’s their current job (if they have one)?
Yes BITCH i have been WAITIGN for a question like this
Sam: basically she made a deal with lucifer and runs many errands for them. But also they helped her a LOT when they helped her escape a shitty transphobic environment and also the two became best friends? So i mean she doesn’t get paid but that takes up a lot of her time
Also she, at one stage, becomes part of this thing called the council which i haven’t quite worked out how they work in this universe yet. Theyre a bunch of strong magic people who work in coordination with the Champion (more on this below) to put down rules about magic. Theyre a reused concept from this story i made when i was like. 10. So the idea does need some reworking.
Amelia: amelia is the champion, which is basically the title given to the person who wins at a big magic competition. Its a p big job, lots of publicity and pr and often regretted by the people who do end up getting there
(like? This one guy? He was kinda like “oh yeah sounds fun” and then he fucking won and he was like “lmao i’ll lose next year” and then he kept the position for 7 years and after that got so fucking sick of it he faked his assassination and became a reclusive mysterious millionaire)
Anyway she enjoys it for the first while until there is a real threat of her being assassinated unlike the aforementioned dude
But she enjoys being around people to an extent, and like. She enjoys making people happy, so
9. How do they react to confrontation?
Sam: similar way to what i described before. Like. jsut the little things. Cursing them with the help of lucifer, becoming their grandmother, you know. The usual ways people deal with confrontation.
Amelia: curiosity, further questioning, keeping calm, kinda just. Being chill about it. She wants to make herself a better person, in general, and if someone is deliberately being a confrontational asshole she prefers to just state her point calmly.
10. Do they have a criminal record?
Sam: you know? Probably? She kills a bunch of assholes where it’s required, but also she legally doesn’t exist? So? Idk? She’s been arrested a few times, but considering there is no information on her existence at all-
*shrugs* idfk how the law works.
Amelia: well, technically, no, she only did illegal things last universe and had a pretty fancy upbringing this universe, so there was no reason for her to do the illegals and also like. Public image and stuff. She worries a lot about public image.
11. What’s their favourite plant?
Another thing which i feel i have mentioned somewhere but idfk where
Sam: likes hydrangeas. They’re pretty.
Amelia: can i just say. It is definitely not catnip. Actually. Maybe? Like. she had some pretty fuckin negative experiences with catnip where she destroyed reality for like a solid five seconds by accident and went to purgatory, but also she made two life friends out of it, so? Maybe catnip after all.
12. Can they play any instruments?
Sam: “does the kazoo count”
Amelia: nope
But because this was boring, i’m going to do a special guest feature from her half brother ryan who is a semi-popular youtube vlogger/musician-y dude. or . whatever this world’s equivalent of youtube is. Uh. metube. Yotube. I’ll think about it.
Ryan: he plays the guitar and sings and he’s damn fucking good at it and he knows it. Also he shares the same combination of forgetting how to outlet his anger in healthy ways + poor impulse control which means that about once every six months he has to buy a new guitar because he couldn’t get that song right and he hit the guitar against the floor.
(his dad is a writer and also an archangel,and one time he couldn’t work out how to start off a scene right so he exploded his laptop and had to use a typewriter for the four weeks while his other archangel buddy was fixing it - i’m getting off topic here)
13. What are they proudest of?
Sam: i guess just. Her life in general? Like. she’s survived up to this point, she’s doin shit, maybe not the shit she expected to be doing or the shit she imagined she’d be doing but she’s still doin it. Like. fuck you life. I survived. And she’s proud of that.
Amelia: that one time when she managed to keep her champion title the first time? And also when she made friends with the guy who she thought was a girl and also dead who turned out to be not a girl and alive and also was the champion for seven years rememebr that guy yeah that’s this guy. Anyway she made friends with him after settling some differences. And also when she stopped a whole organisation from murdering her yeah that was good too.
14. What’s their biggest insecurity?
Sam: okay this is Definitely Not Me Projecting here (hint: it’s me projecting) but she hates being seen as masculine at all and is very insecure when people refer to her or see her as masculine? Like if u call her butch She Will Cry and also why would you do that bc her and her girlfriend are femme as heck
Amelia: public image public image public image public image
Like. she doesn’t want to look bad, or like a bad public leader, but also, she just wants to do her own thing, u kno?
15. What do they most often dream about?
Like. literally dream or daydream?
Sam: probably. Mostly happy stuff. Plus random occasional vivid recollections of tramatic experiences.
Amelia: honestly who the fuck knows (i’d answer this properly but I am Almost Out O f Time)
So yes almost out of time but thank you so much and doing this has inspired me to just completely rework my first book to make it more interesting
I know that sounds bad btu its not i promise i love oyu
(also there was a bunch of different formatting like italcs etc that was lost when icopied from here to docs sorry)
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