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beepboop358 · 3 years

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To be honest there's a lot of people that don't really care about how St's marketing's going rn, I know a lot of people that were perfectly fine with st4 coming out on summer. Like, I feel like this is irritating mostly to the ones that have been actively waiting for season 4 to come out, like us, but we're generalizing the disappointment a little too much, there's a lot of people that didn't even know leave alone care that there were hints about the SuperBowl, Stranger Things is very famous universally, when it comes out countless people will watch it, whoever loses interest because of how long we're waiting will not exactly make a lot of damage, most people will just watch it when it comes out and go about their lives until the next season. I feel like the only people they're really risking are the ones that are devoted to Stranger Things until they get fed up of waiting, but they have a lot of watchers that won't really mind this. I know I've casually watched movies, shows and visual novels that have taken a lot of time in coming out and I still didn't really care and watched it anyway, and they weren't half as famous as ST.

Don't get me wrong, I get what you all mean and I understand that, I just think this bad marketing and how long it's taking doesn't affect the real majority of ST's watchers as much as everyone's saying it does.

hey anon!

Yeah I totally understand that those of us who are the most upset by it are the minority. The causal viewers aren't aware of all the little stuff, so there's nothing to be disappointed or let down by, but I mean I know a few casual viewers who just don't care about the show anymore because it's been so long and are now into other shows more (which I'm honestly really surprised Netflix isn't worried about - ST used to be like an "it" show, and waiting so long to release leaves room for another show to swoop in and kind of take that spot) and I know a lot of casual viewers irl who are going to watch it and are waiting for it, but are confused and frustrated by the fact that we've gotten so little over 3 years. Those people are like "hey where tf is stranger things? what happened to it?" So it's not just us the ones who are obsessed with the show who are questioning the marketing, but we are the ones who are more invested in it, so naturally we are more upset and disappointed. I feel like waiting this long to out a TV show is risky (movies are different and run on very different timelines generally) because there's usually a steady following for a TV show, and you are pandering to a certain audience, and TV comes out faster (or is generally supposed to) than movies do.

I guess we'll see how it turns out. I think season 4 will be pretty successful, but Netflix is in a super different place now than when season 3 came out, so if s4 gets a few million more views than s3 did, it's still gonna be successful, but not as predominantly as other seasons. They measure the success of how well a show does by how much it's watched in the first 28 days since release. Every time the other 3 seasons have come out, they've been record setters for the most watched... So in order for season 4 to continue it's pattern of setting records,(which Netflix loves to hype up ST about) it now needs to top Squid Games. Season 4 will probably do very well and a lot of people will watch it, I have no doubt of that, but I just don't know exactly how well it'll do with the 3 year gap. Netflix may be disappointed if ST4 doesn't continue setting records 🤷‍♀️, and that's a huge number to surpass LOL. It will be a great experiment for other media too, to see if most viewers really will wait that long, and to see if they can have even more success.

thanks for the ask! Hope you're well! xx

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lokiondisneyplus · 3 years

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Director Kate Herron calls from her childhood bedroom. She's staying at her parents' home in Southeast London for the summer, having spent the past year apart due to the pandemic and directing her latest series, Marvel's Loki. "It's so surreal seeing the show go out," she says over Zoom, "and being in the room that I was last in as a teenager."

Loki's first three episodes have seen the God of Mischief (Tom Hiddleston) team up with Agent Mobius (Owen Wilson) and the all-powerful Time Variance Authority to track down a fugitive Variant of himself: A female Loki that goes by Sylvie (Sophia Di Martino) who's set on blowing up the Sacred Timeline and, with it, the MCU as we know it.

"My dad, bless him, he was never into Marvel before, but now he's obsessed with it," she says. "When I got the job, he started watching his way through the films, and he's got all these different YouTubers that he now watches for theories, and he tries to get spoilers out of me. He's like, 'What does it mean?!' and I'm like, 'Dad, I can't tell you!' It's very sweet, but very funny."

Now, with three episodes left of the season, she's bracing for their first family viewing experience. "I might not be able to, though. I might be like, 'You have to watch it by yourselves and then we can talk!'" she laughs. "Wait to hear the Loki theme and be like, 'Oh, I can go downstairs now.'"

In the meantime, Herron fielded all of ET's midseason questions about making Loki's bisexuality canon in the MCU, flexing more of his magic than ever before and why Sylvie isn't really Lady Loki or the Enchantress.

We are halfway through the season. Outside your parents, how has the reaction felt so far?

It's been amazing. We had these big ideas in it -- like, about free will and good and evil -- and wanting to [know that] if we're going back in with Loki because he's so beloved, that it's going to be a good story for that character, but some fresh terrain. I think the response has been pretty joyous and it's just so fun seeing what people are liking, what people's theories are. I couldn't be more happy, to be honest.

Being someone who appears pretty online and active on social media, how deep are you going into reading what people say and diving into those theories and all that?

I definitely read a lot of them -- I don't comment on them -- but I used to love Lost and Game of Thrones, and I was on Reddit, commenting, like, "Ooh, maybe it means this or means this," and I think that's the fun thing with our show, right? Our fans are so smart and it's fun seeing what they're getting right and what's not right but is very interesting. The Easter eggs they dig up are always amazing to me. Some of them we put in there, and I'm like, "Well, let's see..." and I'm like, "Oh, they found it!" So, it's really fun tracking it online. It's very weird directing something where you know every frame will be [screen]grabbed by some fans because they're looking for stuff.

I loved your tweet about why it was important for you to confirm that Loki is bisexual in the show. Not really reveal -- because he's bisexual in the comics -- but make that canon. Talk to me about having those conversations with Marvel.

I think it was something very important to everyone. And I felt like, OK, how can we acknowledge this? We have aspects of the story that are there, so how do we build this into the story so it feels earned in the moment? I didn't want it to feel like we were just wedging something in, but we had this beautiful scene where these two characters are being really raw and really honest about who they are, and I was like, "Well, it is a part of who he is and who they are." For me, talking with Michael [Waldron] and Bisha [K. Ali], it just felt like it was the right moment for that line. This episode is really beautiful for me, because it's these two characters getting to know each other, so in that sense, it felt like the right place for that conversation to happen. And I thought it was done really beautifully by the writers.

Obviously, like I've said, it's very personal to me, and I said it was a small step in some ways -- because obviously, he's just talking about it -- but in the bigger scale of things, I'm like, oh no, it's massive actually. If I saw that when I was 10, it would be really big for me. It's been really nice getting comments from people online. Some people were like, "It helped me actually talk about how I feel to my family and helped me come out." And I thought, "Well, if it helped one person do that, then it's worth it."

This is the MCU's first lead character who is openly queer. Did you know that? Were you aware of how big a milestone this would be?

Yeah. Well, in some senses, yes, and in some senses you're never sure, right? Because [Marvel is] so secretive about all their other projects. [Laughs] For me, I was like, I'm telling Loki's story, it's a part of who they are and I just want to acknowledge it. It's canon in the comics and if we can make it canon in the films, that would be amazing. When I came on board, I was like, if there's a way to do this, it would mean a lot to me and, I'm sure, a lot of people. But it was very welcomed, and I think we're all very proud of how we did that.

This may be getting into spoiler territory that you aren't able to talk about, but acknowledging one's sexuality is one important part of representation, seeing it play out through relationships is another. Can we expect to see any further exploration of what it means for Loki to be bisexual in this show?

I'm trying to think how to answer your question. [Laughs] I would say in our story, this is how we acknowledge it. But I hope that that paves the way for deeper exploration.

We're halfway through the season. What were your biggest goals in these first three episodes?

I think the biggest one was obviously, the Loki we're with in this story is on a completely different path, so it was tracking his character in the sense that he basically sees this amazing arc that the other Loki had gone on across the MCU movies, he sees that he reconciles with his brother, but that wasn't him in that moment. He's watching a different version of himself. But seeing that moment and seeing that he has room for growth and change is really interesting with our Loki, because he's in a very different headspace. So, it was tracking, what's familiar about this character from the Loki that we've seen over the last 10 years go from villain to antihero? And what is going to be completely different and completely different sides to this character that we get to now dig our teeth into? That was something really important to me and to Tom and the writing team, and it was really fun unpacking that and what his identity means.

The other challenges, honestly, were just setting up the TVA, because it's outside of time and space and giving that a grounding and a reality and making that feel like a whole new exciting corner of the MCU. That was a big responsibility, and I was really excited by that. And then you have the bigger arc of the story, but you also knowing it's going out weekly on TV. So, how are we going to track this week by week. Where are we leaving the characters and what are we leaving for the audience? Something we always thought about was we knew there'd be discussion week to week, so it was like, "Where are we going to give them certain bits of information across the show?" We wanted to provoke conversation and discussion about even just things like free will, you know?

I will say about the TVA, I'm basically a human Miss Minutes stan account. I think she's the baddest bitch in the MCU. I watch every Miss Minutes fancam that pops up on my Twitter feed.

She's incredible! What I love about it is that she's in our first episode and she actually used to come out of the presentation that Loki watches -- she came out on the screen -- but it was too crazy. We were like, "OK, we can't do that in the first episode. We'll do it in the second episode!" But what I love about her is that we're seeing the TVA through Loki's eyes and it's, like, the status quo, right? And if our status quo is a Southern-talking, Roger Rabbit-style clock, the show is going to probably get quite weird. I think that's what I love about her. And obviously, Tara [Strong] is awesome. Yeah, Miss Minutes is a lot of fun.

You talked about exploring who Loki is and could be. He's always had an arsenal of powers, but in this series, you really get to explore and define what his power set is. What were those conversations like?

That was something else, coming in, I was so excited about. We have six hours of him, let's see some more magic. Because across the comics, he's super powerful, and for example, in the last episode, that's what was so exciting to me about that, the oner at the end of episode 3 was that I've seen a lot of oners but I haven't seen one with magic. So, I was like, let's put loads of magic in there! We get Loki using his telekinesis and his magic blasts and then also Sylvie, as well, and her powers.

For me, it was exciting getting to bring those in in a way that pushed the story forwards. Because I get it, when he first lands in the TVA, they can't use magic, so I know if I was watching, I'd be like, "What? No magic?!" But I think that's the fun thing is, we still have three episodes to go and also it was fun to put him on Lamentis and see him using his powers in different ways. It was definitely something important to me and the team, was to get to show a little bit more of him. But across the films, you can only do so much. Now we have six hours, so it felt like, of course we have to delve into that more.

I don't know if you saw this on Twitter, one of my favorite reactions to episode 3 was someone tweeted a screenshot of Sylvie screaming and her hands glowing and wrote, "she did the meme!!"

[Laughs] That's great!

We've now officially met Sylvie, and we're starting to piece together that this may be sort of a hybrid character of Lady Loki and Sylvie Lushton, the Enchantress. Are you able to confirm that you pulled from both to create your Sylvie? Or is that something that's to be further revealed?

I would say there's more to be delved into. One thing I would say is, like, she's different to the comics. Like, she's a unique character, but obviously, there's things that have been pulled from. I think for her character, she's on the run and she's called Sylvie and she's dyed her hair. The blonde that we associate with Sylvie is played in that sense, but it makes sense for her character within our story. But I would say deeper than that, yeah, there's more to be revealed about her character to comes.

The main thing I would say is: Lady Loki in the comics is a very different character to our character, obviously. I love that character and I think she's got a very different journey. But our Sylvie is a female Loki, in that sense -- because in episode 1 and 2, they know it's a Loki they're tracking -- but I think that's part of the discussion. It's almost like Loki -- as in Tom Loki -- he's like, "Wait, how much of my life have you got? Who are you?" And I think that's the real question is, who is she? So, we will discuss that as the show goes on. Why does she not like being called Loki? What's her past? Where did she come from?

Tom and Sophia have such great chemistry, but how challenging was it for you and Michael and Sophia and the writers to create a character that essentially has to match up with our Loki, who's had however many films to become the fan-favorite character that he is?

It starts in the writing. Because she's a unique creation, and that was exciting and I was intrigued where they were pulling from with the comics. I was like, OK, that's cool. Beyond that, I think it's casting it. Sophia is an incredible actor. I've worked with her before. She has this fire in her and she brings this amazing vulnerability to all her characters, but she's also, like, so funny. It's just, so many of these things she always brings, I was like, they're so Loki. So, I was like, "We've got to get her to read!" And we were just all blown away by her read of it.

She definitely can hold her own. That's the other thing, as well. I know her, and I was like, she will hold her own. I know she will. Because she's going against Tom's Loki and that's such the fun thing about them. Even just on the train, where it's the end of the world and Loki's solution is, "I'm going to have a party and I'm going to have a drink. I'm going to have a lovely time." And her solution is, "I'm not going to have a glass of champagne, thanks. I'm going to focus on the mission of getting off the moon." Those little differences is what's quite fun about them to me. How are they different, and how are they the same?

Was there something you got to do as a director in these first three episodes that you had never done before that you were especially excited or nervous or both to tackle?

I suppose so much of the show, right? Because I've done a lot of drama and a lot of comedy, but they were like, "Here you go! Here's the reins to this massive, genre-driven piece where you have to set up a new corner of the MCU and you're going to have this beloved character." There was a lot to carry. But I'd say in terms of something I was excited about, only because Kevin Feige was teasing me, when we filmed the big oner at the end of episode 3, I was really inspired in the writing, because it sounded like you were really with the characters. I love doing long takes anyway and I remember thinking, "Oh man, this sequence feels like the one that we should do as this oner," because I want the audience to feel like they're with Sylvie and Loki in this moment, and it's also a moment where you finally start to see an apocalypse and it feels more real, because you're seeing the horror and the terror that's going along with that.

For me, that was exciting, but the really cheesy bit that made me so excited is they had these foam rocks that fell on people, but it felt like real movie magic to me. I was so obsessed with the rocks. I was like, "Oh my god. This is like real, big Hollywood filmmaking." And I remember Kevin Feige was like, "You can take a rock home, if you want," and I was like, "Oh my god!" So I have this rock. It's in bubble wrap now, and I'm going to unpack it when I move into my place. But that's probably honestly the most excited I've ever been. [Laughs] I was just so excited by the rocks. Oh, and also, I remember when we were at Roxxcart and Tom gets thrown into those robo dogs, I was obsessed with the robo dogs. He was like, "I think this is the happiest I've ever seen you." So, those are my favorite moments on set. The foam rocks and the robo dogs.

Somebody's going to come into your flat in the future and there's going to be a shelf with just a rock and a robotic dog on it.

Mhmm! And I'll be like, "Yeah, guys, I did something." [Laughs] They'll be like, "What is this...?" But the foam rocks are genuinely amazing, because they look like real, heavy rocks, but they're so light. I was so fascinated with them. I was so excited. I made a lot of low budget stuff before this, so it was a big deal to me.

My favorite part of the first three episodes is the Kate Berlant cameo. How did that come to be?

Basically, I love comedy and my producer, Kevin Wright, does as well, and we were trying to think of people that could be fun. We've got Josh [Fadem] in episode 1, and that was a miracle. I just spoke to her about the part and was like, "This is a very small role, but if you're interested, you're very talented and you're so funny." And she was like, "You know what? That sounds really fun. Renaissance faire? Yeah, I'll come do it." So, it was very kind of her to come down and do that for us. She's so funny, man. She's so funny.

Do you let her riff at all?

We did. We have a lot of alts and a lot of very extended bits of her talking to the Minutemen. I think there's one where she talks about a bird show at the faire. She's so funny. I was very flattered and grateful that she did that for us.

I'm going to start the #ReleaseTheKateBerlantCut campaign. I want a whole episode of her alts. Or she can be the new Stan Lee and cameo in every MCU project. Before I let you go, if you had to choose one word to tease these upcoming three episodes, what is that word?

Hmm. I thought of one word, but then I'm like, it's spoiler-y, so I can't say that. [Laughs] Oh, one word. Exciting? I have to say "exciting," because I can't say the other one I wanted to say!

#Kate Herron #Loki #interview

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legendsofentity · 3 years

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2021 year-in-review meme

@donnas-troia thanks for the tag, as always 💕

1. first things first, did you have a good year?

eh, it had its up and downs, but honestly all things considered it was pretty good

2. how old did you turn this year?

3. do you feel your age?

sometimes i do, sometimes i still feel 16, sometimes i feel 60.

4. did your appearance change in anyway?

well i mean i got haircuts, and i also started really working out 5 days a week, and my arms and legs are slightly toned now lol

5. if you travelled, where did you go?

nope lol. didn't leave the country at all.

6. which fashion trends did you love?

what's fashion

7. what fashion trends did you hate?

what's fashion

8. what song sums up this year for you?

unstoppable by the score. in an ironic way ofc.

9. what album came out and has been on heavy rotation since then?

no idea lol i listened to songs from at least 3 years back

10. what was your favorite movie of the year?

snyder cut, the suicide squad

11. did an actor/actress catch your attention for the first time this year?

daniela melchior. i saw her as ratcatcher in the suicide squad and i think i'm in love haha

john cena, also in the suicide squad. dude killed it as peacemaker.

12. favorite new tv show?

hawkeye, no doubt

13. which new ship/fandom has taken over a lot of your time, attention, and tears?

WONDERDOVE IS KILLING ME RN 😭

also frostllegra, rachel x rose

14. what food did you try for the first time?

uhhh i tried this blue lagoon drink. it was disgusting. as it turns out, i still don't like alcohol lol

15. did you make any big permanent changes this year?

well i mean i changed my tumblr blog appearance and everything except pfp and name does that count lol

16. what was one nice thing you did for someone else?

i helped my friends with photoshop and video editing

17. what was one nice thing you did for yourself?

i bought comic books with my monthly pay. love comics books.

18. did you develop a new obsession?

SO many. one of them is that i recently started gobbling down at least 8 xiao long bao (soup dumplings) a week. i honestly think i could eat 20 in one sitting if i was allowed to.

oh, and the suicide squad movie.

19. did you vote?

only on youtube polls

20. did you move?

nah.

21. did you get a job?

technically, yes. my last school semester before the military is an internship. in my case, i am working for the IT department of a company that provides extended warranty and technician service.

22. did you get a pet?

no.

23. do you regret not doing anything?

yeah. i regret letting myself get so easily angry this year.

24. do you regret doing something?

ehhh not sure honestly

25. have you done anything that scared you?

don't think so

26. did anyone/thing make you so mad it stayed with you for days?

yup, several, but i don't wanna go into detail because a) i get so angry at the smallest things and b) i don't wanna get angry for days again lol

27. did you lose anyone close to you?

no.

28. did you fall in love?

nah.

29. did you fall out of love?

nope.

30. did you start a new relationship?

yeah online friendships

31. did you go through a breakup?

no.

32. did you have to cut ties to someone?

not that i know of.

33. who was important to you this year but wasn’t important last year?

not sure, because all my friends are important to me.

34. who wasn’t as important to you this year as they were last year?

a few of my irl friends from my class. they had different year 3 paths after we finished year 2 last year, so we haven't really talked since

35. if you could have a do over on one thing you did, would you take it?

sure, why not. but something a bit more recent would be preferred, i don't wanna splinter the whole timeline if i go too far back to change something lol

36. what was the best moment of the year for you?

a) whenever i completed a comic book collection

b) whenever i bought a comic book

c) whenever i ate lasagna

d) whenever i got wonderdove crumbs

37. what was the worst?

whenever covid restrictions tightened, and a whole bunch of family-covid related issues happened all at once and it's such a fucking pain to help organise and account for everything. and as i type, i just learned of a family member's death today so i'm kinda shaken up still

38. did anything happen that you were sure would change you as a person but it really didn’t?

i honestly thought going to internship would change me and better prepare me and my mindset for the working world but i still feel like a fucking procrastinator lmao

39. did anything happen to you that you were sure wouldn’t change you as a person but it did?

honestly, nothing much. other than doing exercise on a weekly basis now, nothing much has changed about me.

40. what are you most proud of accomplishing?

managing to get my hands on a few comic collector's items, and got my arms and legs toned from my exercise.

41. what have you learned about yourself this year that you didn’t know in the years prior?

i learned that i have social anxiety, social awkwardness and short temper issues. not great things ;P

42. did your opinion of anyone change for the better?

the titans writers. s3 had so much potential but it kept making me mad.

43. did your opinion of anyone change for the worse?

not really, i don't think...

44. if you make resolutions, did you complete them this year?

nope. never made them to begin with.

45. if you make resolutions, what will your resolutions be for the coming year?

to survive 2022 lol

46. if you could go on an adventure during the remaining days of the year, where would you go and what would you do? Who would you go with?

i would probably go to australia to enjoy the food and shopping malls there, maybe pick up some k-zone magazines or something.

47. what do you wish for others for the coming year?

good things and happiness. the two aren't always a package deal, so i'll wish both to be sure.

48. what do you wish for yourself?

the same thing i wish for others, good things and happiness.

tagging:

@not-so-mundane-after-all-97

@wilder-fangirl

@joyscott13

@bestavengerromanova

@theheroofhorseshoebay

@caitlinsnow-yayyy

@scorpio-karma

@wonderbatwayne

and anyone else who wants to do it ofc :)

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