#we see miquella without his love and that’s what we face in battle and even then he doesn’t actually attack us

[amummy]

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[gamesception]

fair points.

i guess in contrast i will say that the radahn loved war and battle, not combat as performance art. Death in 'a dual' would not have been a glorious death in battle, which might account for Radahn not telling his followers, so that there could be an actual war. Leda at least believed the promise and didn't think Radahn keeping it secret was a sign that he had backed out.

Yes Radahn was sentimental and protective of his possessions, but not to the point of protecting or sheltering them from war. Just because Radahn was too big to ride Leonard doesn't mean he had to get rid of him. He could have kept the horsd as a pet, or let the him retire to pasture. Radahn learned gravity magic to keep riding the horse *into battle*, famously not a safe or happy place for horses. If he was willing to risk his precious Leonard's life in glorious battle, I don't think his soldiers or country would have been sheltered from it.

Or the golden order itself for that matter. Maybe Radahn was sincerely battleing against Malenia to preserve the existing order, but with the understanding that if he did fall then that was the way things should be and the sign to him that Miquella's new order was right and worthy of his participation. Maybe that was the promise in the first place.

Rotting Caelid and Radahn is more than enough justification for Radahn's soldiers to hate Malenia's, but I don't think rotting Caelid & Radahn was anybody's plan. Certainly not Radahn's or kindly Miquella's, and not even Malenia's until the last desperate moment. Just like i don't think she intentionally rotted the haligtree. after caelid was gone radahn's mind was gone with it, too late to back out then. Off topic, but I also don't think Miquella deliberately captured Mohg, or even knew of his existence to incorporate him into the plan. Imo the original plan would have been to revive Radahn in Radahn's own body, and Mogh accidentally volunteered himself as a convenient alternative by kidnapping miquella at the same time Radahn's body was corrupted by the rot.

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Then again, I could see Radahn backing out too. He did have responsibilities to Caelid that he might not have had back when he made the promise to Miquella, depending on when exactly he halted the stars. And while he might have longed for the age of conquest during the golden order's period of relative peace, or felt he missed out on not getting to join Messmer & Gaius on crusade, the Shattering War might have satisfied that longing.

And you do have a point that Radahn's behavior in the promised consort fight doesn't show him as being very present, mentally.

But when and where would Miquella have bewitched him? in the mid fight cut scene Miquella talks like that's the first he's seeing Radahn back from the dead. If that was an act (for who's benefit?) and he had revived Radahn before going into the gate, then he didn't have his rune then.

I'm not sure he even could have bewitched Radahn if Radahn was set on fighting against him. Even fully ascended to godhood he needs someone sitting still very close to listen to him - he needs Radahn to grab the Tarnished twice. I doubt Radahn would have let that happen without someone even bigger to bear hug him a few times.

in the story trailer for elden ring, where we see Radahn battle Malenia, he seems equally stoic and stone faced. Maybe that's just how the dude was? Maybe if he talked more, Miquella might have realized he wasn't the kind of man he wanted to be co-ruler of what was supposed to be (but never would have been) an age of peace.

Y'know, I've been thinking about the vow between Miquella and Radahn a lot recently, and I feel like I've come up with a possible explanation for why Radahn seemingly agreed at first but later backed out of the deal.

If Radahn truly did agree to become Miquella's consort, what are the chances that it was made under the pretense that he'd be the next elden lord in the golden order? Continuing the legacy and age of both his personal hero and father, alongside Miquella as the new god of the age, but things remaining overall the same.

Once Miquella became disillusioned with Marika's age and decided to do his own thing, and create his own age, Radahn probably lost interest in becoming his consort because he wouldn't be the lord of the age he loved anymore, infact he would be a major factor in it ending. Something that he historically does not stand for.

This probably lead to a disagreement between the two that lead to Malenia invading Selia. Miquella feeling betrayed because Radahn was now refusing to uphold his promise, and Radahn feeling betrayed because Miquella turned his back on the golden order he loved and was now trying to bring it to an end.