#we need more 5/turlough fic

[cringecompanionapologist]

Doctor Who Shipping Statistics: Because I'm Bored and I Like This Sort of Thing

So, I decided to see which Doctor Who ships were the most popular in the fandom, not because it matters, but because shipping is fun.

This probably isn't an accurate ranking of which ships are the most popular though, because it's just the amount of fics on Ao3. I'm only going off Ao3 because it's the only fic site where statistics are easy to find, because pairings are tagged and the number of fics with a tag can be counted.

If there's a really popular ship that people don't write fic for, for some reason, it won't show up on my radar, which is fine because this isn't exactly Science. It's fucking around with lists out of curiosity.

So, let's get started!

I started off with just finding the top 10 ships for Doctor Who in general. To no one's surprise, it was completely dominated by New Series pairings. The New Series tends to encourage more shipping and is ongoing, so more people are paying attention to it. Therefore, more fic.

10/Rose

13/Yaz

11/River

Metacrisis 10/Rose (That's the human clone of 10 btw)

9/Rose

12/Clara

Amy/Rory

Doctor (in general)/Rose

Doctor (in general)/River

Doctor (in general)/Master

Only Doctor/Master could be a pairing without any New Series characters, because that would include Classic!Doctor/Classic!Master.

Also, you might notice a lot of Rose. Get used to that. She's inescapable.

Anyway, I decided to filter the search to only E-Rated fics to see if there was a major difference when smut was involved. This didn't actually change very much:

10/Rose

13/Yaz

Doctor/Master (the Master comes up a lot more on the smut list lol)

12/Clara

Metacrisis 10/Rose

9/Rose

13/Dhawan!Master

10/Simm!Master

10/Jack (of course he'd show up more on the smut list)

11/River

What this reveals is that people are more interested in Doctor/Master smut than Doctor/Master romance, which honestly makes a lot of sense. The smut list is also slightly less het than the overall list. Slash fans appear to be the horniest of shippers. As a slash smut writer/enthusiast, I can't really protest.

But, what about Classic Who? I was more interested in Classic than New, so I looked at fics tagged Doctor Who (1963) specifically, instead of Doctor Who in general. Most Classic Who fics are tagged this way, so you'll find more Classic Who there. Here's the results:

Doctor/Master

2/Jamie

10/Rose (Yes, there's still new stuff in hear and of course it's Rose)

3/Delgado!Master

Tegan/Nyssa

4/Sarah Jane

7 and Ace (Notice the and. Platonic relationships get tagged too)

Ian/Barbara

6/Peri

5/Ainley!Master

And I did an E-Rated Only list for Doctor Who (1963) as well:

Doctor/Master

6/Peri (They seem to be more popular as smut than anything else)

3/Delgado!Master

5/Ainley!Master

2/Jamie

Tegan/Nyssa

5/Tegan (I see a lot of fics for this ship and feel strangely jealous...)

10/Simm!Master (A new series ship that isn't 10/Rose?!)

Mel/Ace

7/Ace (No and this time. They get shipped sometimes.)

Once again, Doctor/Master gets a lot of smut. Also, I think this is the first list to not include 10/Rose :)

Look, I don't hate 10/Rose. I'm pretty indifferent towards 10/Rose. Rose is nowhere near my favorite companion, but nowhere near my least favorite either. I just get a bit tired of seeing her absolutely everywhere.

I think decided to check for fics tagged with each Classic Doctor to see who they get paired with the most. I'll list every character who they're shipped with in the top 10.

First Doctor: Rose

There are at least 3 separate fics about Rose fucking every incarnation of the Doctor. If it was River or Jack, I probably wouldn't care, but Rose is not the Doctor's One True Love. And least River can claim dibs on having married an incarnation and Jack is Jack. This is what I mean about seeing her everywhere. Rose is often treated like the most important companion in the history of the show when she's just as important as any other companion. There's probably reason for this mindset that I could go into, but I'd like to finish my list first.

I did the E-Rated Only thing for each Doctor as well. Yes, for all of them. I'm curious and I fear no smut.

First Doctor (E): Rose, Barbara (there are at least 2 1/Barbara fics)

Second Doctor: Jamie

E-Rated Only doesn't change that. Fics tagged with the Second Doctor still contain a lot of Rose Ships, but 2 isn't emphasized quite as much. 2/Jamie is basically THE Second Doctor ship.

Third Doctor: Delgado!Master, Brigadier, Jo, Sarah Jane

E-Rated Only is the same characters in a different order

Third Doctor (E): Delgado!Master, Jo, Brigadier, Sarah Jane

Jo gets more smut than the Brig.

Fourth Doctor: Sarah Jane, Romana II, Sarah Jane/Harry, Rose, Ainley!Master

The Rose Fucks Everyone fics strike again! Also, we get our first OT3 with 4/Sarah Jane/Harry.

Fourth Doctor (E): Sarah Jane, Leela, Rose

Of course Leela would get more smut. I'm surprised with the lack of Romana though. Both Romanas are gorgeous and 4/Romana is the closest to a canon Doctor/Companion ship we get in Classic Who. Maybe it's a Time Lord Thing.

Okay, on to the Fifth.

Fifth Doctor: Ainley!Master, Tegan, Turlough, Nyssa, Rose

Yes, 5/Tegan is more popular than 5/Turlough right now. I'm fine really. 5/Master being at the top of the list is kind of what I'd expected though.

Fifth Doctor (E): Ainley!Master, Tegan, Turlough, Nyssa, Simm!Master, 6

Unlike most Classic Doctors, 5 is Young and Pretty, so he reminds people of 10 and gets porn with 10's Master. Also, Tegan is still ahead of Turlough.

Shipping wars are mostly bad, especially when people try to claim a moral high ground for their ship. I don't want to get involved in any hostilities just because my ship isn't as popular as another ship.

However, maybe encouraging some friendly competition by saying "more 5/Turlough fic should be written" wouldn't be going too far. If you ship 5/Turlough and write fanfiction, write a 5/Turlough fic because winning is fun.

Anyway, how about the Sixth Doctor?

Sixth Doctor: Peri, Ainley!Master, Rose

Sixth Doctor (E): Peri, Ainley!Master, Mel, 5, Charley, Rose

Our first Big Finish companion! Also, I was so distracted by shipping jealousy with 5 that I forgot to mention the selfcest. I think one person wrote a bunch of 5/6 smut fics.

Seventh Doctor: Ace, Ainley!Master

Ace was 7's definitive companion, so if people want to ship him with someone, I'm guessing she's the obvious choice. I personally see 7 as the one incarnation I just can't pair with anyone, but People Can Do Whatever They Want Forever.

That includes writing smut! The E-Rated Only round is the same two pairings in the same order.

Lastly, we get the Eighth Doctor. He's always interesting in terms of fandom because his televised run was one movie. Anyone who's familiar with him has had to see out audios and novels. The audios and the novels each of their own Definitive Eighth Doctor Companion.

But they somehow all lose to fucking Rose again!

Eighth Doctor: Rose, Charley, Fitz, Grace

The three Not Roses can all be explained. Charley is the Definitive BF Eighth Doctor Companion and the Big Finish audios are the most popular Eighth Doctor stories, especially since they're still ongoing in some form. The EDA novels ended around the time the new series began, so Fitz isn't as well-known as Charley. But, in the book version of the Eighth Doctor's adventures, Fitz is basically 8's Jamie. He's a guy who stays with him forever and is more prominent than the female companions of the era.

As for Grace, she's the only onscreen Eighth Doctor companion and they kiss.

The Eighth Doctor was the first Doctor to really be portrayed romantically. 1 got a one-shot love interest and the first four classic Doctors were allowed to flirt with someone from time to time. The Doctor wasn't a traditional male lead and he didn't have long-term love interests because no one writing him was really into that. It wasn't until the 1980s that Doctor romances were flat out banned. They made JNT nervous.

This led to a period of time where not only did the Doctor not get love interests, but it had to be emphasized that Doctor Who Has Never Fucked Ever. Not even for reproduction. The 20th anniversary came with a Radio Times short story establishing that Susan was adopted. Along with that, when filming The Five Doctors, Carol Ann Ford was told not to call the Doctor "grandfather", because that might make people think the Doctor had sex at some point. Ford laughed at the whole thing and was allowed, for continuity's sake, to call the Doctor "grandfather" anyway.

There's nothing inherently wrong with interpreting the Doctor as aroace, or Not Having Fucked Ever and Susan being adopted. It just shouldn't be something treated as Sacred Lore That the Americans Ruined With Their Stupid Movie. The rule against the Doctor having love interests was made by a producer that the same fans who claim that this rule is sacred usually fucking hate.

Doctor Who fucks however much you want him to.

But, because 8 was allowed to have love interests, 8/Charley, 8/Fitz, and 8/Grace are all varying levels of canon. I haven't listened to much of 8's BF stuff yet, but from what I can tell, 8/Charley was mostly one-sided, but might've not been. 8/Fitz wasn't as directly discussed in-universe and came across as Canon in All But Name.

We got sidetracked. Here's the E-Rated Only thing:

Eighth Doctor (E): Rose, Charley, Fitz, Roberts!Master, Jacobi!Master

Of course there's Master smut. This is an established pattern.

Since we've already gotten sidetracked, I'd also like to say a bit more about Rose.

I think that for fans that got into the show at any time other than right as the new series began, it's hard to see why Rose is not only super popular, but still dominant in fandom, appearing in more Ao3 fics than any incarnation of the Doctor. The thing is, Rose was the first companion for a lot of people and her introduction worked differently than similar first companions.

If you started watching the classic or new series at any point but the very beginning, someone had probably already told you that companions come and go. No individual companion is a vital component of the show. You might get really attached to Sarah Jane, but she leaves and the show continues without her. This will happen to every companion.

The only exceptions to this were people starting at the beginning of a series, before any companions had left yet. This makes Susan/Ian/Barbara as a team similar to Rose as existing before the show could exist without them. But, there's three of them and only one Rose.

There's also the way their introductions are set up. Both An Unearthly Child and Rose (the episode) start with the companions and introduce the Doctor through their eyes. They're normal people in present day London who walk into something strange. But, there's a certain even distribution between characters in An Unearthly Child. The entire show is named for the Doctor, the first episode is named for Susan, but Ian and Barbara are the real main characters.

But, though Doctor Who is still named after the Doctor, the first story is called Rose and is about Rose. To someone unfamiliar with the classic series, the show has established Rose as the main character of Doctor Who, the center of the show's universe. The idea that there could be Doctor Who without Rose doesn't seem to add up.

In Series 2, School Reunion is the point where Rose (and the new audience along with her) learns that the Doctor traveled with humans before her. She's traveled with Jack, so she knows that other companions can happen, but she thought she was the first, the special human the Doctor bonded with. She's special, but only because all of the Doctor's companions are special. She's part of a group of special people.

While the classic series audience would've recognized Sarah Jane and enjoyed seeing her again, the new audience would've learned that the Doctor had companions before Rose at all. You could swap Sarah Jane with a completely original character that the Doctor recognizes as a former companion, and the same point would be made.

So, School Reunion attempted to do some damage control. Rose was leaving at the end of the season and establishing that she wasn't the first companion would make it clear that this would be a normal part of the show. Doctor Who would go on without Rose.

But, the show was incapable of leaving it there. After a Big Dramatic Exit, Rose haunted the show longer than any companion had before, new series companions included. Until Jack returns in Utopia, the Doctor doesn't seem that upset over losing him. The show moved on. But, Series 3 has the Doctor still not over Rose, causing him to be a dick to Martha. Audience members that warmed up to Martha will be mad at the Doctor now and audience members still upset over Rose will turn on Martha because the Doctor does.

Series 4 brings Rose back and gives her a second send-off, once again establishing that the show can't let Rose go. It wasn't until the change of showrunner that Rose was allowed to be just another companion.

This was sort of the same thing that happened when 10 regenerated. The show wouldn't let the characters go, so audiences that'd grown attached refused to let go either, screwing over the next in line. Rose is treated as the Most Important Companion because the show wouldn't let her go, when the show normally lets companions go.

So, that's why Rose is shipped with every Doctor and is inescapable. Once again, I don't dislike Rose. I just find it annoying when she's given special treatment, though from everything I've just said, I know why. I started watching Doctor Who right before the 50th anniversary, almost exactly a decade ago, so when I starting watching the show on Netflix, I saw how many seasons there were and knew that things changed a lot. When my friends talked about the show, it was all 11th Doctor stuff, but I already knew that he was on his way out. I consider 12 to be My Doctor because he was the first Doctor I experienced live, basically. He showed up around the same time I did.

Watching the 1st Doctor's episodes for the first time while overhearing multiple hissy fits over the new Doctor being "too old" was an experience.

Okay, I've rambled this thing to death. Hope we all learned something.

[isitanylittlewonder]

1. Yu-Gi-Oh!

2. Sherlock

3. Sherlock, because it brought me a much deeper enjoyment of the thing than I ever had known before, and opened me up to other variations of Sherlock Holmes, and also because I've never felt so close to people in a fandom before. (runners up are House and Harry Potter)

4. Not really? I'm a bit embarrassed about Yu-Gi-Oh! but I can't say I regret it.

5. House, Harry Potter, Sherlock, Merlin, Glee, original ACD Holmes, and a little for Supernatural, Atlantis, Hannibal, Doctor Who.

6. House/Wilson, Lupin/Snape, John/Sherlock, Holmes/Watson, might have dabbled in Kurt/Karofsky when Karofsky's gay storyline first came out, Destiel, Pythagoras/Icarus, Will/Hannibal, Doctor/Master for a while, also Doctor/Turlough, Kirk/Spock, Arthur/Merlin, Gwen/Morgana for a while

7. NoTPs? Tonks/Lupin for sure. House/Cuddy. Sam/Dean. Spock/Uhura in the reboot. Doctor/River, though I like them individually.

8. I was already a bit involved insofar I watched the show and liked many fandom posts online. But then I saw a series called TJLC Explained that I got obsessed with and it pulled me in far deeper into the fandom. One thing led to another…

9. Everyone's so clever and coming up with more theories all the time. They honestly love the thing, and are very open about sharing it.

10. Star Trek, occasionally. Yu-Gi-Oh! because I wasn't any good then. Most things I usually at least attempt a ficlet, but that hasn't happened yet with Star Trek. I did start to write a longer Trek fic, but it's not done yet, so I didn't count it.

11. Holmes/Watson. After s4 of Sherlock, we all need our own ways of coping. Mine is to retreat into ACD fic. I don't consider this cheating, because tjlc.

12. OT3, eh? I have dabbled in Joltolock.

13. Warstan. Also Mycroft/Smallwood in s4 was pretty disturbing.

14. Mrs Hudson and Sherlock and John.

15. Jolto is pretty intriguing. Margaret/Mrs Hudson is too.

16. Sherlolly. He's just not that into her.

17. At the start, I was torn between Sheriarty and Johnlock. Now I've completely abandoned Sheriarty and only like Johnlock.

18. Johnlock.

19. Molly/Lestrade. Maybe I've lost my taste for straight ships?

20. I once read a series of fascinating Johncraft fics that were so well done it made me fall for the ship a little. Who knew?

21. Secrets and Lies was my first real attempt. After trying and failing to write fanfic in the Yu-Gi-Oh! fandom, I tried again in the Harry Potter fandom. I wanted to write a long fic, not just a ficlet. After a few years, I ended up with a novel that was heavily edited in the front and roughly written in the back. Eventually, I quit, telling myself it's done, and made myself move on.

22. A few things. Mostly in the Supernatural fandom, though a few in the Potter fandom. Mostly the regret is embarrassment of bad writing, or fear of revealing too much.

23. During a Snupin Summer Fest on LJ, I took a prompt and wrote Who We Are. The fic was based on a prompt about Gryffindor sword and the locket of Slytherin, and I ended up using those as metaphors for Snape and Lupin finally reconciling and getting together behind the scenes in DH. I like the language it used and thought it worked well.

24. The latter half of Secrets and Lies. Also, this one ACD fic I wrote where they investigate some obviously queer murders only to end up in the killer's trap.

25. According to the kudos on AO3, it's Lovely Invasion or, Invisible Enemy

26. Usually, it's whatever pops into my head. Otherwise, I try to think what the fic is essentially about, and name it based on that.

27. Titles. Summaries are fairly simple; titles have a more limited space to sum up what the story is. Especially with longer stories, it can be hard.

28. After I finished Who We Are, I desperately wanted a pic of the kiss at the end. But what's the likelihood? I can dream…

29. I've never had a beta reader. In part because I'm afraid to reach out/don't know how. In part because I would imagine them as proofreaders, and I'm pretty good at that.

30. Often characters do. Sometimes, I come up with concepts that I just have to write. For example, what if Holmes and Watson actually were caught out for being too gay and were put on trial for it just like Oscar Wilde, and that was their Reichenbach? I actually started to write that one; I haven't finished it yet.

31. Years ago, I received a couple of nice comments on my fic, Old-Fashioned. In particular, I liked how well done they said the dialogue was.

32. If I need it for motivation, I do. Sometimes, though, it's too distracting.

33. Oneshots most often, since they don't require huge commitments. Sometimes, though, my idea naturally requires multiple chapters. But I don't write epics.

34. Secrets and Lies apparently finished out at 113k. Does that count as an epic? 😳 I didn't mean to. Let's see if Reichenbach Downfall can give it a run for its money.

35. I definitely write drabbles. Usually they're about little moments that pop into my head.

36. Difficult to say. Angst has certainly been a pet genre to read in the past, but I don't think that translates to my writing. My fics are often character-driven, so maybe drama?

37. Generally I use close 3rd person. When I first started writing fic, I gravitated to first person, but over time I developed close third because first was too limiting. Close third still allows me to stick with the character without being tied down to their perspective alone.

38. Generally, I stick to canon characters. I only introduce OCs when I wanted to make a specific point or express a particular thing.

39. Well, I'm told I'm good at dialogue. I also like to think I'm good at characterisation, but that's usually limited to my favourites.

40. Plotting out longer works is something I'm working on. I also struggle to understand characters I've neglected developing.

41. Technically, I'm still reading The Burning Heart, since I'm still on the last chapter; Sentiment and Espionage, and All That Lies Between is an excellent fic, and I'm eagerly (impatiently) awaiting the next update; I've been working on this one for quite a while, a Mystrade fic called The School Boy, which is finished but of epic length and also part of a series; don't think I ever finished Three Continents Strikes Again; and finally, not my usual fandom, but I was looking for the "soft epilogue" quote, and kuebiko might be the fic

42. Arionrhod; McKay; May_Shepard; kinklock; Odamaki (may be locked to AO3, idk)

43. idk, there are lots of great people. Marcelock and Alexxphoenix42 come to mind.

44. Johnlock's my ship, and it's also the main ship. But I guess more femme slash ships would be nice.

45. Across fandoms? Tough call. I loved Coffee Girl by Peacewish in the Yu-Gi-Oh! fandom, Twist and Shout in Supernatural, Performance in a Leading Role in Sherlock… but Sherlock's got more than Performance. There's Riptide Lover, there's my top 3 smut fics, I'm Not Actually A Pervert, Evening Ride, and Idle Hands. My favourite? Out of those, I guess either Twist and Shout or Evening Ride.

46. I'm the most proud of Old-Fashioned and Who We Are, both of which are Snupin fics. Perhaps I simply relate to them in some way. I would probably recommend either one of them, just because of the complicated way they relate to each other and approach each other. I think it's interesting to contemplate what they are to each other.

47. AO3 is great! It's where I go to post my better, usually longer fics. However, tumblr's where I go when writing ficlets on a whim.

48. Not as much as I should. I'm usually too focused on bookmarking to comment. Also, sometimes I'm afraid to, even though that's ridiculous! When I'm moved, or when I think I should, then I'll comment.

49. Often I'm too scared to read comments. I should really get over that. I live in the hopes that I will, and then I will be pleasantly surprised. So, I do hope there's some waiting for me for that someday. So I guess I care.

50. While exploring the net for some Yu-Gi-Oh! I found ff.net, and went crazy with reading. Immediately I knew I wanted to participate in fandom, and chose fic as my medium.

51. omg, I love how everyone can come together for this thing they love. We got artists, writers, meta writers, betas, podcasters, podficcers, sometimes even musicians. We got vidders too, just all kinds of creators that unite for this one thing. And they get good, really good! one could go pro with all the skills you learn in your medium. and everyone's so supportive, so full of love, nurturing this gift! that's something you might not find elsewhere.

Fanfiction Questions

Fandom Questions

1. What was the first fandom you got involved in?

2. What is your latest fandom?

3. What is the best fandom you’ve ever been involved in?

4. Do you regret getting involved in any fandoms?

5. Which fandoms have your written fanfiction for?

6. List your OTP from each fandom you’ve been involved in.

7. List your NoTPs from each fandom you’ve been in.

8. How did you get involved in your latest fandom?

9. What are the best things about your current fandom?

10.  Is there a fandom you read fic from but don’t write in?

Ship Questions for your Current Fandom

11. Who is your current OTP?

12. Who is your current OT3?

13. Any NoTPs?

14. Go on, who are your BroTPs?

15. Is there an obscure ship which you love?

16. Are their any popular ships in your fandom which you dislike?

17. Who was your first OTP and are they still your favourite?

18. What ship have you written the most about?

19. Is there a ship which you wished you could get behind, but you just don’t feel them?

20. Any ships which you surprised yourself by liking?

Author Questions

21. What was the first fanfic you ever wrote?

22. Is there anything you regret writing?

23. Name a fic you’ve written that you’re especially fond of & explain why you like it.

24. What fic do you desperately need to rewrite or edit?

25. What’s your most popular fanfic?

26. How do you come up with your fanfic titles?

27. What do you hate more: Coming up with titles or writing summaries?

28. If someone were to draw a piece of fanart for your story, which story would it be and what would the picture be of?

29. Do you have a beta reader? Why/Why not?

30. What inspires you to write?

31. What’s the nicest thing someone has ever said about your writing?

32. Do you listen to music when you write or does music inspire you? If so, which band or genre of music does it for you?

33. Do you write oneshots, multi-chapter fics or huuuuuge epics?

34. What’s the word count on your longest fic?

35. Do you write drabbles? If so, what do you normally write them about?

36. What’s your favourite genre to write?

37. First person or third person - what do you write in and why?

38. Do you use established canon characters or do you create OCs?

39. What is you greatest strength as a writer?

40. What do you struggle the most with in your writing?

Fanfiction Questions

41. List and link to 5 fanfics you are currently reading:

42. List and link to 5 fanfiction authors who are amazing:

43. Is there anyone in your fandom who really inspires you?

44. What ship do you feel needs more attention?

45. What is your all time favourite fanfic?

46. If someone was to read one of your fanfics, which fic would you recommend to them and why?

47. Archive Of Our Own, Fanfiction.net or Tumblr - where do you prefer to post and why?

48. Do you leave reviews when you read fanfiction? Why/Why not?

49. Do you care if people comment/reblog your writing? Why/why not?

50. How did you get into reading and/or writing fanfiction?

51. Rant or Gush about one thing you love or hate in the world of fanfiction! Go!