#we consistently see him lie about who he used to be bc he wants mk to see him as the perfect hero who could do no wrong
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spoofyleaf · 1 year ago
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I hear ya, I do, but I also find it super interesting.
Azure came from a place of manipulation, to get what he wanted: power. He purposely lied, left out important details, and twisted the story.
Macaque comes from a place of deep emotion- he genuinely felt as though he was abandoned by his closest friend. Betrayed by the one he followed into battle, even tho he knew there would be dire consequences. Macaque tells things truthfully- altho his truth is only a small part of the story, and muddled up with emotion and hurt. Macaque befriended a hero who protected him and was kind to him; and he became said hero’s warrior, the sidekick… the hero’s shadow. Macaque is open to MK about his past bc he doesn’t want to watch history repeat itself. He sees how similar swk and MK are, and that scares him. The world doesn’t need another murderous, chaos inducing, impulsive monkey who stops at nothing for more power/immortality. While not a GREAT mentor, he does his best to teach MK genuinely good life lessons (maybe minus the first one, but that I think was self preservation bc of the whole LBD situation)
Wukong isn’t open about his past nearly as much because he regrets a lot of it. He isn’t proud of who he was, but he still wants MK to see him as the Good Guy TM. So naturally he isn’t gonna go into detail about the things he did. And, even though it was his own actions causing direct consequences,,, swk still has a decently traumatic past. It’s gotta hurt thinking about any of all of it. Plus, he sees himself in MK, no doubt: which has to downright terrify him, seeing how much the kid looks up to him.
So naturally MK is gonna go to Macaque for information, he’s been the only one who’s sorta willing to talk about it. Macaque is much more emotional vulnerable/ honest/ open around MK than swk is
(this isn’t me trying to argue your opinion btw, I just really like picking things apart)
I am kinda getting sick of macaque pov on events about swk,it actually getting annoying that we never see wukong talk about his past to mk,it bothered me that mk seems to go to macaque for information (in s4 specials) ,when macaque hasn't tell the whole truth all, even in the s4 specials he doesn't tell much,I don't want macaque to be the storyteller of jttw or swk story,because he doesn't know everything,his bias also is shown in shadowplay (s2,ep6),wukong should tell his own story next season to mk,about jttw and his history.
Personally, macaque has always been untrustworthy with how to tell these things,like azure.
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angstandhappiness · 1 year ago
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THEORIES, THEORIES, THEORIES, WHO CAN TELL US THE TRUTH, and also, Wukong, Monkie Crew, TELL US YOUR STORY
@spoofyleaf #if anything Macaque is more reliable for truthful information than swk is#much like azure lion; swk very much bends the truth about his past#we consistently see him lie about who he used to be bc he wants mk to see him as the perfect hero who could do no wrong#him and azure got along at first for a reason: they’re both good at twisting their stories to have others blindly trust them#and azure and Macaque didn’t get along bc Macaque called out BS when he saw it. he was always truthful#i could go on and on about this show#I’m aware I talk a lot and yes I am sorry
@hyperfixation-tangentopia #if anything Macaque is more reliable for truthful information than swk is#much like azure lion; swk very much bends the truth about his past#we consistently see him lie about who he used to be bc he wants mk to see him as the perfect hero who could do no wrong#him and azure got along at first for a reason: they’re both good at twisting their stories to have others blindly trust them#and azure and Macaque didn’t get along bc Macaque called out BS when he saw it. he was always truthful#i could go on and on about this show#I’m aware I talk a lot and yes I am sorry#prev#please keep talking I never thought to pick this apart this is so interesting#I say/think all the time that Azure and Macaque are unreliable narrators but I never thought about the difference in how or why#or that Wukong might be just as bad#agahhshdn this is so interesting fff #mmm yummy yummy thoughts
@spoofyleaf #wukong has yet to mention why he hates macaque tho#and if im being honest i don't think it is bc the identity theft macaque pulled in jttw#i think macaque dipped out when they went up to fight heaven#and that absolutley pissed swk off bc he was supposed to be his right hand man or somethign#and maybe macauque flaking caused their plan to hit the fan and maybe swk blames him for it#idk#i just have so many thoughts#and jttw can only answer so many of these questions#bc lmk doesnt fully adhere to the og text#love that tho
@shadowpeachyaoi #true#the fun of the backstory shit to me was that both macaque and wukong aren't reliable narrators#macaque bc of his skewed perspective and wukong bc he wants to gloss over as much as humanly possible (bc he's a Cagey-Ass Bitch)#god i need to watch them get therapy so bad they would be awful#getting wukong to go to therapy would be like getting my cat to go to the vet#(quite difficult and he's not cooperating for one second once he's there)
@fluffypotatey #sorry#got excited#saw swk and unreliable narrators and blacked out#also i find it very interesting 👀 how Macncheese’s attitude towards the past has shifted#s1? He was a bitter bitch. angry and upset to be abandoned and thrown away like trash#s2? Still bitter but also more melancholic (that play was not spiteful but one created from sad yearning and I stand by that)#s3? tired and bitter but almost like going through the motions#s4? he’s not okay and he’s still hurting but he no longer wants to inflict harm on others (MK) just to get back at Wukong#also!!!! when MK asks he answers without that resentment anymore (there’s still something but it’s different to how he started)#edit: forgot to add more to circle back lol#yeah macaccounting didn’t say he hated swk but he definitely wanted to kill him (or get close enough to that) in s1#by s2 he mostly wants to keep MK from making the same mistakes in his own way#but yes#oove this addition#i know MK and swk promised to not lie to each other after s3 but both of them have been omitting information 👀 can’t wait to see more
@ashamednowholeismyhome #If dad won't share me the tea I'll go to mom#Mk probably
I am kinda getting sick of macaque pov on events about swk,it actually getting annoying that we never see wukong talk about his past to mk,it bothered me that mk seems to go to macaque for information (in s4 specials) ,when macaque hasn't tell the whole truth all, even in the s4 specials he doesn't tell much,I don't want macaque to be the storyteller of jttw or swk story,because he doesn't know everything,his bias also is shown in shadowplay (s2,ep6),wukong should tell his own story next season to mk,about jttw and his history.
Personally, macaque has always been untrustworthy with how to tell these things,like azure.
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