#wai's literally never been ''nice'' have u watched ep1
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snickerdoodlles · 3 years ago
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Wai’s still the same
So something that I haven’t seen mentioned yet is how a lot of Wai’s actions in ep7 directly parallel his actions in ep1. And I want to turn a quick light on that because I’m personally really invested in how Wai’s actions have turned from a positive push in Pran’s life to a negative one due to different contexts, and how I think they will still change again as the story goes on and all these characters grow together
Put this under a readmore since it got long, but here’s some rambles about how Wai’s trying to be a good friend and why it’s not working, plus some Pat rambles as an end treat because I love that boy:
So, the first thing to talk about is Wai’s still trying to help Pran reconnect to music. Consider one of the first interactions we saw between Wai and Pran:
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Music is very important to Pran and integral to himself. He’s always listening to music in everything he does and he even puts a lot of consideration in how the music integrates with his activities. It’s also a way he connects with his family and his friends, and also a very important way he expresses himself:
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Yet in the audience’s introduction to the Freshy Day Music Competition, Pran insists he’s given up the guitar and he has no interest in going back to it. This is very obviously a lie, just look at the way the kid lights up any time he looks at the guitars in the music shop, but it’s a lie Pran’s clinging to. And one of the main reasons why Pran picks up the guitar again is Wai.
In fact, for most of ep1-4, we as the audience see Wai being a really good friend and a huge positive push Pran needs. Pran's main conflict in all of Bad Buddy can really be summed up here:
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We know how it’s going to end, isn’t it better not to start at all? (x)
And Pran’s slowly learning that the answer is no, it’s always worth pursuing what makes you happy. You can’t know how something will turn out, but letting opportunities pass you by means you will never achieve what you want. You can’t and won’t out plan every risk, and that’s okay.
Of course, Pran’s biggest influence to overcoming this fear will be Pat. And I’ll circle back to that in a minute, but before Pat, the person pushing him and encouraging him was Wai. It’s Wai who encourages Pran to join the Freshy Day Competition and encourages Pran to confront the floor guy hitting on him via dumplings. And these pushes are a good thing. Pran is very insular and at the beginning of the show, he needs this outside push to help him confront his fears of risk. Wai’s earlier actions helped give Pran the excuse and encouragement he needed to reach for something he wanted (or, at least, something he’s scared to face).
The problem with Wai now is that he’s hasn’t realized Pran’s grown.
Pran is not the same person he was in ep1. In ep1&6, he wasn’t running away from only the guitar. He was running away from the very old and still weeping sore of his family’s drama he doesn’t want to be a part of and his long time crush on Pat. He’s wrapped up so much of this pain in his guitar that he wants to get rid of this physical reminder and presence.
Wai doesn’t know this.
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Pran doesn’t open up to Wai about this very complex and messy situation. Which, fair tbh, but it means that all Wai knows is that his friend is running away again from something that he loves, something Wai had just seen Pran reconnect to:
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Now, this push to help Pran come out of one of his shells in regards to music was only successful because Pran chose to make this leap--Wai may have encouraged him, but Pran was the one that ultimately chose it. The sequence where Pran is delayed getting the competition form wasn’t just a narrative tool to keep Pran away from Wai and the other engineers--it’s Pran choosing, repeatedly, to join the music competition. He could’ve let Wai distract himself getting the form, he could’ve left as soon as he saw the empty music room, he could’ve left when there were no more forms. But he doesn’t. Pran chooses, over and over, to join the competition, even if he won’t say it in words.
And that’s where Wai’s actions start to fall apart in ep7.
He assumes that Pran’s still running away from music and tries to help push Pran back to it. Just look at the progression of Wai trying to reconnect Pran to music in ep7: he starts with asking Pran to join him on sound for the play. When Pran rejects him, he still tries to get Pran to help out (and, from his perspective, Pran does seem to be pretty into it). And then, finally, he begs Pran to take over his duties as the sound person for the play and drops off Pran’s guitar that he’s been caring for.
And it’s wrong.
Wai is not listening to Pran. Even if giving Pran a push would be a good thing, it is not Wai’s place to decide this. He needs to respect Pran’s boundaries, both spoken and unspoken, and remember that it’s ultimately up to Pran to choose what he wants to do. Right now, he’s taking advantage of Pran’s nature to accept responsibilities to try to push Pran into a place that he thinks will be good for him.
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Now, all of this does not make Wai a bad person. It just makes him a person.
But there are two reasons why Wai’s coming off as especially bad in this episode: Pat, and perspective bias.
Pat is just plain amazing. He’s very good at offering his help and encouragement to others in ways that don’t come off as overbearing or intrusive, and the way he acts around Pran especially highlights this aspect of his caring nature. Every time he pushes Pran to confront something he might be uncomfortable facing, he still does it in a way that still gives Pran control over the situation--he’ll ask Pran questions but let Pran set the boundaries (”do you think we could be friends?” / “do you?”), he’ll fold the newspaper but let Pran decide how much space to give him, he won’t let Pran run away but he’ll make up a bet to help Pran feel more comfortable. Pran can open up to Pat because Pat’s really the only one so far that doesn’t impose on Pran--he lets him come to him and he’s always there when Pran looks for help, and that’s why we see Pran’s first awkward and clumsy (and defensive) attempt to reach out for help in ep7
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(Also, the way Pat rejects Pran hiding behind the wall of their bet but later still showing Pran that he’ll be there for him is AMAZING and we will be talking about that in a different post because I’m still half-feral over Pat being the best boy I love him so much.)
And the thing is, when we have this amazing foil and positive influence in Pat, the other characters trying to help/push Pran fall leagues short. They were good for Pran at one point and they're still actions of care, but Pran’s grown beyond it and his friends haven’t (yet).
That said, Wai’s actions are still particularly grating in ep5-7 in a way that they aren’t in 1-4, and that tone shift is also due to the change in narrative perspective.
Pran is a lot more forgiving of his friends than Pat. We see it in how the fights are framed and how Pran defends his friends in the first 4 episodes, and then we see that bias flip on the two friend groups for ep5-7 (and probably ep8 as well). But that doesn’t mean that the perspective won’t shift again.
We’ve already seen a huge narrative shift in character perspective on one character: Pat. Even just comparing how he’s introduced in the first half of ep1 to the second half. We got a speedrun on the narrative shift because of PatPran’s history, but Pat is introduced as a thug that’s uninhibited and out of control, plus a selfish jackass that won’t even do his own laundry and thinks the world revolves around him (”why did you follow me to university?”). But as soon as he starts to reconnect with Pran, his caring and nurturing personality is revealed. We even see how his confidence is mistaken for arrogance, how he gets pulled into drama he doesn’t want to be a part of, and how careful he is of other people’s boundaries even when he’s pushing someone out of their comfort zone.
the tl;dr of this is Wai’s acting the same as he always has been. He’s still the sweetheart we met in ep1-4, but he’s currently a static character in a developing narrative and we’re getting a much less forgiving narrative perspective on his flaws right now. And that’s okay! All of these characters still have a lot more room to grow, but they care about each other. It’s going to be really interesting to see how the narrative’s perspective on all of them change as we not only shift to a more balanced narrative POV in ep9-12, but also as these characters grow to be better people as well.
#bad buddy#bad buddy ep7#long post#people can hurt each other out of love but they can also grow to be better for that love as well#all i want is for the friends to find out about patpran and decide on their own in secret to stop fighting and stop being dicks#like i just want them to go thru their character growth on their own time with many shenanigans so patpran can flirt in peace#ANYWAYS tl;dr i get being annoyed at wai these latest episodes but hes still the sweetheart from ep1-4#i think i saw smth about a tweet about how hes not ''nice'' and tbh i???? dont get why ppl are worried about it???????????#wai's literally never been ''nice'' have u watched ep1#he cares and he tries but he has a mountain of an ego he needs to get over he always has#pran's just more sympathetic to him and we feel bad for him when hes bullied at work#i just dont think a b&w read on. well. any of the characters tbh but esp a b&w read on the friends is accurate#that does not fit bad buddy's overarching narrative#and if u dont care about the friends growth or reasonings thats cool but then this post isnt for u so 😂😂 nbd#i dont intend to be a shameless friends apologist but im vvvvvvvvv invested in that group squad pic at the end of the op sequence#and im v excited to see how we're going to get from the friends-as-of-now to that#the friends just havent rly changed since ep1. the audience still has to do a lot of legwork to extrapolate their characters atm#so it makes sense that they first want to show those sides and flaws of the characters first before they go onto the character growth stage#ANYWAYS SHUTTING UP NOW#this is so rambly hfjhfhjf i just have a lot of feelings about foils pat and wai ahhhhh
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beigejournals · 4 years ago
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Season 5 Lucifer
welcome to my unsolicited thoughts about Season 5 of Lucifer.  
as an avid and veteran series binger AND a talker-while-watching-a-movie-or-series-but-does-not-want-to-spoil-anything-for-my-friends type of person, i have finally dedicated a space and found a good way to let all my thoughts out as i watch a movie or series when i am alone when i can’t bother a lot of people because (1) they don’t want to be bothered and (2) i don’t want to spoil things for them.
so here are my thoughts, and of course, SPOILERS AHEAD.
BTW, i LOVED all of Lucifer! but this season was a slow burn for me. 
ep1
drug scene at Lux; is Amenadiel mean now?
so is Lucifer himself in his own hell loop when he became the ruler of hell? his own guilt towards his father? idk (to be frank, i don’t remember the past episodes except for the fact that he is now back in hell)
the premise of the first episode is cute!
side note after the title card: i remember how much i loved the soundtrack for Lucifer!
Maze is still hot.
I love how Maze and Chloe’s relationship developed and how they don’t have to use words to communicate.
Amenadiel’s and the Psychologist’s house HAHAHAHA i love it.
is Charlie Jesus? His mom’s faith in front of Ella is like every mom plus every religious person ever haha
YES. ELLA. YOU. DESERVE. A. GOOD. GUY.
self-improvement is now a meme, huh?
Dan is me.
comment on drug scene: Amenadiel is still the same, haha!
Maze and the card, haha!
how was the guy in the mask face (did i just say mask face?) blurred but in the party, Los Angeles was in perfect accuracy. excuse me.
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coming out of the dead: “oh sorry, that’s so gross!” LORDT HAHA
love you, Charlie! hope you don’t feel like you have to perform because your mom expects a lot from you and that’s so ironic because she’s a psychologist!
Dan’s speeches about parenting: i get it tho, parents try to love their child, sometimes, they just don’t know how
also, i think it’s the sister but Chloe’s just a softie
lol Maze is jealous that Chloe got to talk to Lucifer and trying to say that they don’t need Lucifer.
OOF MAZE.
i forgot about what happened with Eve.
GUYS THE MURDERER IS LITERALLY GOING TO ESCAPE.
the amount of projection as defense mechanism in this episode is too much it feels like it’s too on the nose.
but i do love the parallel between what’s happening on Earth and in hell.
the amount of layers in this question either it’s Lucifer’s or his or his sister’s (assuming it is his sister who was behind his murder)
ok apparently it’s not his sister.
me in law school:
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sana all kaya kang mahalin na babalik from hell. kilig aq.
also, after all these years, Lucifer’s house has been so clean!!! wala man lang alikabok
if she’ll be fine without him then who tf is that?
ok i read the synopsis for the next couple of episodes. i don’t like spoilers. don’t make the same mistake.
ep2
i’m Ella when it comes to my friends’ special people HAHA
also, i love the slight lean to one side to show us that this is not the real Lucifer.
why does he have to be naked???
it’s so funny for me how they have to reestablish him. LUCIFER NEVER LIES HAHAHAHAHA yes we can remember now after you repeated it 3x.
ALSO WHY IS EVERYTHING TO ON THE NOSE. EVERY SECOND IS A METAPHOR FOR SOMETHING. was it always like this?
Oh Michael. Nice. Was he an archer? We love the American accent.
how can Amenadiel not know that was Michael? GANON KA IDENTICAL SIZ?
we love the unnecessary car chase just to  reinstate the fact that this is a crime show
that slomo with the wings!!!
also everything is so slow with this show!!! idk why but everything feels just a little bit slower (or maybe i just want lucifer and chloe to be together? idk)
gwapo ni lucifer nung nagmomol sila ni Maze pls
cringe ng elevator scene
ykw. i think it’s because i like the lucifer character that’s why i’m impatient. he hasn’t been appearing the way i want him to.
see. you don’t have to remind me so much about the show because i know he was supposed to say “what is it that you truly desire” not fear. I FEEL LIKE THIS SEASON IS DUMBING THE PEOPLE WHO LOVED THE SHOW FOR SO LONG. okay sige.
either she knows it’s not him or SHE’S REALLY THAT NICE AND POWERFUL OF A HUMAN BEING.
oh i’ve been questioning whether they had sex already and this episode answered my question
CRINGE coffee scene: the spoon???
random question: are angels virgins? so is Michael a virgin?
what kind of a person would just go deep on someone else’s pocket just because they ran out of money?
knew it Maze won’t do Chloe dirty like that!
thanks Chloe. u know better than that. (full disclosure: I THOUGHT SHE WAS ACTING BADLY APPARENTLY A GOOD ACTOR CAN ACT BADLY TO PROVE A POINT?)
literally just liked it and now there’s a new secret that was said too soon.
God baka naman pwede mo ko gawing Chloe Decker char.
AH so interesting. Lucifer = Desire. Michael = Fear. Too on the nose again but that time, i needed the guidance because i am a dumbass.
God ain’t raising his children right!
ep3
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yes explain everything to me it’s literally not like we have been binging this show for 2 hours straight
see, the Lucifer character is really endearing. i’m enjoying myself again hahaha. (well, i guess Lucifer when he’s with Chloe?)
can i just say that Tom Ellis was born for that role. he fits is so well that him acting as his own twin doesn’t sit well with me.
i just feel like this show was written by a psychologist who liked watching murder shows.
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it’s Lucifer, Chloe!!! siya yon.
ep4
love Lucifer-Chloe tandem!
we love how the actors can sing and the show gives them a chance...
one thought: is everyone going to play a double of who they are?
also is Maze the daughter of Lucifer?
i love how they’re transcending mediums, reminds me of Community with their random episodes.
there you go, Chloe’s doing the double acting too.
Now it’s Linda. (so maybe this is the episode i was asking about earlier).
Now it’s Ella.
omg is this why i loved fleabag, it took forever for the Priest and Fleabag to finally do it? no. i just love the Priest.
Charlotte’s back! and the distance from the table shows how not okay they are. okay.
green screen while driving i love it.
now, Daniel!
we love gender fluidity? i guess. i’m not sure how you call it but i appreciate.
Lilith’s dress for the second song. OMG.
there again to make us dumb. after we just watched the whole thing happen, they retell the whole story again. damn. they think we dumb.
literally this season is making every girl kiss Chloe.
why did she blow the ring? was that her life?
what’s that song in the end?
OH that was the reason why she was retelling everything.
damn celestial beings are the worst parents.
ep5
i wanna be Dr. Linda Martin please.
i appreciate Lucifer wearing the bracelet until now. (but i expected nothing less)
i’ve always loved how people reacted to Amenadiel. he always seemed nerdy but these are times where he truly shine and im so happy.
i forgot.  i think i was showering that time that Michael and Lucifer fought and theyre hella dumb. ok lets go toxic masculinity mixed with daddy issues.
i know they’re too on the nose ABOUT EVERYTHING but i do like the debate about free will and predestination
honestly i don’t know what’s Chloe’s issue is with being made by God probably just because i’m lazy and i just want to lay everything in His hands but coming from a very atheistic perspective where she comes from i kinda get it. i guess my only reasoning why i’m okay with God’s reason is with her is because of my fear of the unknown; my current fear with not knowing my true purpose. at least she got hers! what is she complaining about?
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oh i get it now, but that’s why there’s free will Chloe (or idk, idk how God works; there’s currently no electricity in my house rn. i don’t get how that works even if we pay for our electricity all the time, how am I suppose to know God’s plans?)
but aren’t well created for something else? looking at a selfish perspective, maybe He created all of us just because He wanted to.
wow. literally when the nun kissed Amenadiel, the lights in our house opened up. if that ain’t God. idk who that is.
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wow that’s so interesting.
“There are no shortcuts.” 🥺
he exposed himself i’m interested. what if i were the one to whom that was exposed to... how would i react?
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another sample of them explaining to us WHAT WE ALREADY CAN INFER FROM THE SHOW (the conversation actually continues to dumb it down for the audience) but i get it. it’s religion and fiction built together.
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oh i just cringed i almost vomited with this 
also can i just share these. these are the funniest thing Chloe said on the show.
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ep6
OOF what a horrifying way to start the episode (after the beach fiasco)
they’re holding us. that’s so adorable!!!
ugh. im still cringing.
yes jowa for ella yes pls. ELLA YOU SAID YOU WANT A NICE GUY!!! HE’S THERE!!! i’ll take him if you won’t!
Chloe if you don’t want Lucifer, i’ll take him too!
can i say how proud i am of Chloe and Dan’s relationship. it’s very healthy for what they are. add Lucifer and Dan to that too! we love men.
also the women in this show have bad taste in men. (except for who Linda married, i guess)
we love the seasonal girl’s night!
that whole charlie thing being amused by lucifer’s devil face is the best bit
was it Michael calling? and oh noooo ;(
FUCKEN MICHAEL
ngl i could have waited for another season for them to have sex on season 6 episode 6 but sure have it at season 5.
ep7
we love a person who wakes up and is not pretty. princess anna who? (i mean she is wearing full on make up, but we’re okay with that snore)
Deckerstar!! they made a word for it
our mojo??? does it only work on lucifer or does it work when she does it to others as well, we shall find out.
oh no! Lucifer’s isn’t working at all HAHAHAHA
it’s currently 2:19 AM. i am tired and sleepy.
Dan talking to Charlotte 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Fucking Michael
oh he emphasized archangel Michael. with my limited knowledge being raised Catholic, i was going to ask earlier if he was an archer because he had crooked shoulders. AND I JUST CHECKED. ARCHANGEL MEANS HIGH RANKING ANGEL NOT AN ANGEL WHO’S A FUCKING ARCHER. me being raised Cathlolic means nothing. HAHAHH
now i’m realizing if i see an angel, maybe i won’t be in the situation where i’ll see Amenadiel but Michael
NO NO NO AMENADIEL
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i love this HAHAHAHAHA
knew it. called it! worked on lucifer ONLY. HOW CAN TWO PEOPLE BE THAT MADE FOR EACH OTHER. LORD BAKA NAMAN.
i’m ella shipping them.
THEYRE SPEAKING TAGALOG HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH and HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
what song was that? “When it hurts, just to breathe” same
The Shining reference no thank you pls
NAAAH i really can’t do horror things especially not with things i truly fear and when i don’t have a curtain on. No thanks.
14:54 and i’m watching again open the lights bro, it’s easier to find clues that way   also i do get that they’re closing it to ensure that the killer is not there but theyre also moving like the killer is not there anyway so better open up the lights! tho i really know nothing about crime solving (i just typed crime solving instead of solving crimes didn’t i)
we stan ella’s healthy relationship!!!
can i just say there was a time where i can’t even say serial killer out loud so this is really hard for me to watch alone
i know that he’s vulnerable around the detective. BUT SHE SAID HE CHOSE TO BE SO BY NOW HE SHOULDN’T BE AFFECTED BY WHAT HE DID.
Fucken Michael.
ep8
how attractive can you be that even in slow motion, you look great.
oh apparently he did not die.
ALSO OO NGA CHLOE. US2 MO SIYA MAMATAY TEH.
CHLOE THE OVERTHINKER but i get it. BUT STILL.
you know that montage of people just studying and it’s now happening to chloe trying to solve a crime. that’s my cinematography goal HAHAHA. it’s been awhile since i’ve been invested in studying like that.
Lucifer can be just so immature some times
is KillShare based off of SkillShare?
also i’m thinking that Chloe was either taken by Michael or Dan or the SK.
that ring of Lucifer on Maze is probably the longest ring someone has waited for.
i love Maze’s eye make up! ALL THE TIME!
if the lady here is not detective and they’re relieved. that’s just fucked up, man. they were slightly relieved. that’s good acting HAHAHAHAHA.
I’M JUST PRAYING TO GOD THAT PETE REALLY IS A GOOD GUY AND NOT THE SERIAL KILLER COZ I CAN’T HATE THAT GUY PLEASE. the key and the research!!! WTF. stop trying to be smart, show!!!
his mojo is back, does that mean Chloe is gone? 😢
OH AFTER THE TAPES, I THINK IT IS THE BOYFRIEND. DAMN SHE’S REALLY INTO BAD MEN, ISN’T SHE?
I’M SO SCARED. THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME.
THE FLOWERS ARE FRIGGIN KILLING ME.
kamukha niya pa si Penn Badgley, nice.
DOES HE GENUINELY LIKE HER OR IS THE KISS TO THROW HER OFF GUARD.
AH NO. i think he genuinely likes her. except that she... you know found that he’s a fucking murderer
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HAHAHA PETE
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right??? why does this show have to say everything out loud like don’t already know.
oh he just used her but then he liked her. idk. the way he speaks too, so nonchalant.
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preach, ELLA!!!! shout out to those who had crappy childhoods and are not serial killers! that’s the bare minimum i guess.
go, Ella!!! know your worth!
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lol made me love Pete, he’s funny.
ok my assumptions were right-ish.
HAHAHA, his american accent.
his choosing to be bot vulnerable around her anymore, Michael, i think is a way of him staying alive for Chloe but ofc Chloe will think that Lucifer would rather have his vulnerability than to be with her.
baka di lang love language ni Lucifer words of affirmation, okay! HE SAVED HER LIFE SO MANY TIMES AND NOW SHE’S DOUBTING BECAUSE HE HASN’T SAID I LOVE YOU YET??? SIZ. HE LITERALLY LEFT HELL FOR YOU.
MICHAEL STOP. Michael the shit stirrer. we all have that one friend.
awa me kay Maze. she’s like a lost dog throughout the show.
does Michael want to be God?
skipped thru the speech. cringe.
what’s Amenadiel’s problem with his child having a normal cold? what’s wrong if he’s a mere mortal?
WHY IS EVERYONE IN THIS SHO’W SO INSECURE. i get so annoyed every time Chloe’s mad that Lucifer doesn’t get what he wants
it’s just that i resonate with Lucifer. it’s hard for me to say i love you and now i think Amenadiel stopped time.
oh. i thought Amenadiel’s fears about Charlie being mortal was superficial, i just realized that he was afraid that his child was going to die. but, he can take him to heaven like what he did with Charlotte, right?
oh Michael.
MAZE! MICHAEL IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!!! you’re fine! i don’t have a soul either.
celestial beings and their daddy issues and inability to communicate with one another and the desire to fight it out as if that’s the solution
HOTTEST BROTHERS EVER DAMN.
itong si God ngayon lang magpapakita anuna siz.
WHY ISN’T HE PLAYED BY MORGAN FREEMAN BUT OK.
CLIFFHANGER!!! IM MAD.
ep 8 should have been called blueballz tbh
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zepdeans · 5 years ago
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there’s not a lot I can say about s3 that hasn’t already been said (and articulated 200x better) but! here are some of my (albeit dumb) thoughts :~)
ep1 -isak leaning against the bathroom wall gets me EVERY time its such a powerful scene esp introducing you to s3 and tarjei..... spare some talent for the rest of us please -LiTeN gUtTeN fRa StRaNgEr tHiNgS -isak rly ties his pants w a shoelace...... -isak noticing even for the first time bc of his laugh.. whew.... also. i love this intro SOOO much bc its so non-monumental? theres no dramatic music or whatever but its not subtle.... like you know right away o shit love interest!! hello sir!! bc isak’s expression watching him :’) i could go on -isak is a bad liar HOWEVER this only applies to stupid nontrivial things e.g. the black sweatshirt. but when you look at him lying about like, his sexuality, he hides that shit well -”c00l” isak. i hate u so much -honestly all u have to do is look at even for .2 seconds and u can tell this boy has had a crush for a solid month bc he just looks awestruck (HOWEVER henrik’s acting is *chef’s kiss* bc its subtle enough to go undetected b4 you actually know eVEN SAW HIM ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL) -even isak and emma all sitting on the bench together is funny enough on its on but then a song called threeway comes on and like. julie sdshjsfdjfkjskd ep2 -there’s something so endearing about even’s handwriting idek what -i LOVE even’s video w mikael it reveals so much about him to us- how weird (ok we saw how weird he was w the paper towel thing but) and dorky he is? and his love of film! his view on love stories and how he sees the world :( but it also shows a lot abt isak because he saw even making stupid jokes about vladimir putin and was like yeah we about to fall in LOVE love -isak not using headphones to watch even’s video or r+j?? bde or general incompetence what’s the verdict guys -the isak watching r+j scene hits so hard like yall ever think about isak lying in bed at 3am staring at the ceiling probably thinking about how he’s never gonna get a beautiful world-shattering romance like that like ..... also him changing positions skam get out of my life go away ur too realistic -not to make this even more self-projection-y but isak simultaneously being the least emotionally vulnerable person ever but crying during r+j > -i made a post abt this already but even’s INTENSE staring vs isak’s “i have never looked anyone in the eye in my life” gets me it says so much about their characters -even said i see your bde move (asking me to buy you beer) and i raise u with my own (inviting you to my house after faking not having my id) -”if you listen to music” even is such a dick fsdjhsdff -when the message comes on...... i rlly do owe julie my life huh -”have you heard about my rapping?” “I have actually” have we talked about this enough????? 1. isak finally feels comfortable enough w even to flirt and his first move is to RAP for him jesus christ. keep in mind this is the same man who pulled that smooth af ibuprofen line w emma like...... 2. even has heard about isak’s rapping. either this means im-not-on-social-media even went out of his way to go thru homeboy’s instagram OR isak’s rapping is actually talked about. i- -the group chat messages. cant believe i forgot about the 2016 clown epidemic
ep3  -mahdi is a good friend and i love him. thank u -even wearing isak’s cap until he chucks it at him sjksfjsdjsd -how much yall wanna bet isak’s been listening to illmatic on repeat since last friday thinking abt even (even tho meeting sonja shattered his heart a lil) [also kinda an aside but i think a lot about how isak n even bonded over rap and how some homophobic lyrics in 90s etc rap might have impacted them? or how that little detail ties into julie’s story? e.g. halftime by nas, which is on illmatic] -whats worse. even staring into isaks soul wearing a size xs see-through white t shirt or isak staring at even for five (5) seconds before chugging his beer and immediately making out w emma. OR even crashing that party before it can start “i think you guys are bonding too much” cheesy ass shjhfsdhskdf -yall act like evak didnt invent hands. did even shaking isak’s shoulder telling him his apartment is nice mean nothing to u -im convinced robyn wrote call your girlfriend for this scene specifically bc how could anything fit so perfectly by coincidence -is anything better than egging isak on- even bech naesheim (2016) -idk if yall have read the scripts but i love the sock thing so much bc its soo true to how isak thinks and it makes everything so much more interesting and !!!
ep4  -i will never get over even sending isak bad seinfeld memes -even smacking open isak’s locker. first of all whew second of all u think as soon as he got into the stairwell he lowkey cried bc ow -parallel of isak saying “it’s 2016, why are you religious?” to sana vs. emma’s “it’s 2016, get out of the closet” to isak anyone :( -”takk sanasol!!!!” thank u isak for my life -I wanted to be with you aloneeeee -even’s face when he sees the pool like we get it youre a director -how many times do i need to say even is such a dick sjkfsd “does it look like i care about my hair?” “usually but not right now” like this would only work on isak i love soulmates!! -even just.. fully choking isak out ssdhgfd got em -when the first notes of im kissing you start ooh boy -even going in for the kill kiss and isak going from huh to oooo shit and pushing his lips out at the last minute. phenomenal 
ep5 -ngl as soon as im not in love comes on my heart goes uwu bc like!!!! that song the meaNING.... them......... i jus love this scene sm like theyre in their own little bubble and they both feel so comfortable and at peace :((  -even leaving isak comics about an inside joke of theirs like yall mind if i scream -isak feeling left out from the conversation and his friends whew i felt that... and having them talk about how gross it is to makeout with a girl w facial hair?? blease :( -taking stock of isak’s nicknames: issy k, isabell, izzy, baby jesus, -im not even gonna bother trying to articulate thoughts on Pause bc it’s a literal masterpiece. thank u tarjei henrik and julie for inventing television with this one  -MAGNUS SDFKJSDFJKDSHK "oooh my name is Jonas and I love idealism and reading klassekampen and I don’t like plastic and I skate on a skateboard made of sustainable wood and wear old clothes because new clothes are bad for the environment and I only drink recycled water” screAMMM -what i said abt pause also applies to pride ugh its such a powerful scene and!! the beginning of kicks to isaks stomach. honestly what i fucking love about this episode is how it goes from hell yea best day w even ever to crying in the street within one week (s3 had the best balance of angst and payoff thanks) -even’s Soft Party Flannel... forever tainted by this scene rip -not knowing why even kissed sonja keeps me up at night -speaking of. how used and stupid isak must’ve felt when he saw even completely unbothered, hooking up w his ex at this party?? whew :( -bros is one of my all time favourite clips solely bc of the music?? lift me up gives me chills and when hold my liquor starts i LOSE it -ep5 and 6 remind me of that quote “to see what your characters are really made of you have to break them” because julie rlly goes all in and god it hurts so good
ep6 -never have i ever seen insomnia portrayed as accurately as tarjei did here and i remember when i first watched the cantina scene i was like. winded bc its SO true to sleep deprivation whew -i really like that isak wasnt together with even when he reached out for help and came out to jonas. bc it was him, on his own, being strong enough to talk to his friends and then eventually he was confident and secure enough in himself to be in a good place when even started reaching back out!! -i have no idea what its like to come out to someone, to be afraid of your friends rejecting you, everything isak went through. but tarjei’s acting of when, like, you have something you KNOW you have to tell someone, and youve put yourself in the position where youre going to have to tell them, but youre terrified and eventually just force yourself SAY the words??  -and isak’s smile when he realizes jonas is gonna be his bro no matter what :’)))
ep7 -weirdly one of my favourite isak looks (black t-shirt grey snapback c-c-c-combo) -”what’s your name again?” have i mentioned i love sana and isak bc i love sana and isak -jonas truly is the best friend oh man. perceptive, thoughtful, loving, laidback, a friggen BRO. tbh i was wary of him in s1 and thought he didn’t treat eva well (tho I recognized he loved her a lot, he was just bad at being a boyfriend) but jonas in s3?? just goes to show how powerful your perspective of someone can change viewing them in a different role!! because while jonas was a crappy bf, he literally is SUCH an incredible friend and his actions and words and just! him! in s3 completely redeemed any illwill I had towards him :’) -maybe im a little gay (up there with other s3 comedy classics such as “thats a boys name”) -mahdi season WHEN ugh a legend -’when someone asks isak if hes going to a family party’ literally what other reason for living do i have if not to read the boy squad text convos -isaks locker finally opening and his smile at evens drawing whewwwwwww!! also even rlly is that guy who wont text you back but will leave hand written love letters in ur locker -also. another stellar look from valtersen -slutt a meld meg is a whole masterpiece like what other piece of media has the RANGE -eskild: play hard to get. jonas: no smiley!!! isak: nah fam im good B)
ep8 -this episode is BEAUTIFUL bc you feel practically euphoric?? like hell yeah theyre finally together!! isak is out and accepted and even is done with sonja! but theres also this unsettling undercurrent of worry bc you know deep down something isnt right? why is sonja calling isak? why is even acting kinda strange? whats going on? yknow?? -literally never going to get over 5 fine frokner :~) even is such a goddamn nerd and he’s the man of isak’s dreams can u believe!!  -sana’s little speech is SO important in so many ways ooo i love her so much -also have we discussed eskild making evak do a photoshoot for him. highkey those are my favourite pictures of ALL time u can tell even was like hm strange but im down while isak was more omg guys stop🙄 omg haha eskild i cant believe youre making me cuddle with even for a photo🙄 i cant believe ur making me snuggle this dude for a pic!!!! definitely would not have done this otherwise!!! -magnus only realizing it’s THAT even after seeing how isak looks at him. whew -isak is so brave i rlly love that kid! his text to his mamma <3 -no r*make will EVER nail text conversations like mari/julie did w evak’s this week thanks for coming to my ted talk. i'd quote the best ones but it would literally double the length of this post (ok ill cave. “hahaha shut up❤️” GETS me) -you dont know whats in store but you know what youre here for. hallo -isak running around oslo with even’s clothes looking for him :( his heart is so big he cares about even so so much -when Part II (on the run) comes on in the credits its like a kick in the teeth honestly
ep9 -ive already screamed enough about cherry wine but god it fucks me up -cannot put into words how much I love eskild and how good of a person he is, he just has so much love in his heart  -”wait they have waffles here? see ya” -this convo is why i love skam so much!!!! magnus giving insight and good thoughtful advice to isak was such a brilliant move by julie (also truLy heartwarming) bc like. magnus is a flawed layered character! he’s dumb and ignorant and not very careful with his words BUT hes also such a sweet guy. i genuinely dont think he would hurt a fly and him talking about vilde (in ep10) is ;-; bc he really likes her and respects her and wants to be a gentleman! hes so loving and just. yeah. also i wonder if isak and magnus (and vilde) ever talked about having mentally ill parents and lent on each other for support bc like....<3 [sidenote- this is why i HATE b***** like they absolutely massacred magnus’s character and magnus did not deserve that!] -det er bare slutt........ very cool of tarjei to invent acting here. also the character development makes me WEEP like at first isak lied and told his pappa it was over bc its easier to brush stuff off and say you were joking than be vulnerable especially about 1. having a boyfriend and 2. saying youve already broken up?? but then isak was like hey im done with lying about who i am bc i want my life to be REAL and he told his dad the truth even if it was hard and even if he was trying rlly hard not to cry  -isak reaching out to even<3 standing up for even<3 -o helga natt. another scene i genuinely cannot comment on bc u cant really put into any written language how magical and breathtaking and heartbreaking and powerful and brilliant this scene is. so. -jk. obvs i cant say anything intelligent enough to give this scene justice but probably the most stunning piece of television i have ever had the privilege of watching. even’s text breaks my heart every gd time (esp since we never really see this side of him before finding out he’s bipolar? his guilt, insecurity, feeling like a burden, being scared of losing everyone in his life because he thinks he’ll hurt them). the music is SO beautiful i cry real tears as soon as the strings start. also the brilliance of JUST o helga natt playing and no dialogue except for isaks one line? isak’s realization when he sees the cross. him RUNNING across oslo to go to even. the FLASHBACKS all going backwards in chronological order until them smoking on the bench. isak looking at the bench and not seeing even and u can feel his heart breaking and urs breaks too! but then he remembers the bathroom and he turns and theres even and whewwww. du er ikke alene<3
ep10 -minutt for minutt is THE most healing clip im telling u. and like.. seeing even depressed really is hard and as someone who was very very depressed for 4-ish yrs of their life it rlly hits me? like when youre in an especially bad funk and you cant get out of bed and youre just numb and exhausted and feel so shitty and u want to be alone but you really dont???? could go on but literally i owe henrik holm my life for his portrayal of even  -not to be a soft bitch on main but when isak tucks the blanket over even and it keeps getting pulled off his back so isak just. covers that spot with himself? -i do love that call between sonja and isak bc once again! a flawed (realistic) human being -and isak thinking its his fault even is depressed? it means a lot that sonja told him its no ones fault, even is just bipolar. and i wonder if isak felt that way about his mamma as well, guilty for her being ill, and if what sonja said made him feel better about that situation too :( -lowkey random but when isak is rambling really fast and he goes “maybe we’ll get bombed tomorrow and talking about all this is a waste of time” it continually punches me in the throat bc that is /exactly/ how i ramble and think like tarjei........ pls -like eskild said. there really is so much love in isak’s little grumpy teenage body<3 -isak no longer just passively accepting life as its given to him, now he fights for him and even!!!!!  -isak is such a forgiving person and seeing him able to just accept things and move on? incredible -i remember when i first watched ep1 i was like oooo even and isak are gonna be kosegruppa partners and thats when theyll first get together, cooking food or smth!! but lmfao after episode 3? kosegruppa whomst???? also hilarious vilde thought isak of all people would willingly sign up for kosegruppa just to go to revue parties -even and linn friendship!!!! -cannot articulate how mf heartwarming it is to see even smiling and being more himself after being depressed (also thank u julie for having ups and downs coming out of his depression- its so true to life having one day when youre feeling awesome and then the next you feel awful again for no reason and its SO frustrating) -I had to stop watching passe pa meg cause it made me toooooo crazy! it would just be like: “I like seeing you laugh” and I was like: *SCREAMS* -im the fucking master of lying 😤 -literally don’t know why isak and even ragging on kosegruppa is so funny but “did you think I joined to have fun” gets me every time -I SAW YOU THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL -also even literally radiating love @ isak watching get snarky w vilde on the phone bc it reminded him of the first time he saw him! even rly is that boyfriend who thinks isak being pissy is the Best Thing he has Ever seen -halla boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiz -literally the glo up of isak telling his friends the order in which he’d bang them -No filter! wow I love symbolism -so nice to see the girls together for a lil bit :) -the boys hyping up mags while also telling him to be respectful awwwwww -take desperate to a whole new level- Confucius  -who’s going to show isak how to properly hold a beer can -literally evak banter gets me thru the day. thank u tarjei and henrik for having phenomenal chemistry + improvisation skills + making isak and even the dumbest nerdiest boys i have ever seen -biology partner. and friend. ;-; -even literally is the biggest stoner blease -isak’s talk with eva is just sooooo<3 and not to be emo on main but every single word of the last few sentences he says hit me so gd hard because i feel the exact same way in my BONES -livet er nå 💛
final thoughts :( <3 -this season is so special. it feels like one really long oscar-worthy movie or smth?? i cant even exblain, its just magical. ALSO very dear to my heart. -julie really said you guys have seen isak sad and alone and repressed for the past two seasons so heres him falling in love with the best person in the world and coming to terms with who he is and being brave and opening up and finally being happy and living a real life -this season definitely feels different from s1/2/4 to me editing or production or music smth wise? as in, its got a lot fewer aesthetic shots and the cinematography seems a bit different if that makes any sense???? I also think this is the season most focused just on the main (i.e. not many- if any? sideplots going on) -literally will never get over the thought, love, and detail put into this season. when i say there is literally nothing i would change about it, i mean it and coming from my nitpicky ass??? means a lot lmfao. the acting, directing, music choices, symbolism...... sublime -s3′s cold rainy autumn aesthetic makes me ACHE for fall and also nostalgic for a highschool experience I never had lmao?? also. all the nighttime clips >>> -don’t know what else to say except thank u skam for my life
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MY ANGEL HELLO!! 💞💞!! Omg no need to be sorry at all and i hope things have gotten better for you!! And if not then I hope you can do little things that make you happy bc you deserve it!! KCKCKVKV March has been a very weird month…but I do think it’s bc it’s been literally two years in this pandemic cjcjcjcj but all the more reason to take care of ourselves in this time!!
AHHH watching figure skating felt like a horrible rollercoaster that was only going down for a long time!! but same i got so happy for sui and Han!! And omg the woman’s individuals were so hard to watch and literally the scores were so hard to watch!! I HATE THE ISU!! And yes we love yuzu in this house!! Honestly, I’m so tired of these jumps getting over scored when I feel like the most beautiful skating we get is when the artistry gets to shine!! But anyway thank you for your posts, it felt like I had a buddy living through that hell with me!!
Hehe my favorite flavors are the sugar ones!! I tried a taro and mango sugar one last week and it was so good!! Do you have a favorite?? OMG yesss taeyeon always has such good albums and i honestly have that album on repeat!! Omg listen none of your writing is trash and that’s so cute and awesome that you got inspired!! and i get emo over music and yoongi too JCKCKCJCJC!! Omg I totally forgot to listen to apinks album but I did enjoy their title so I’ll have to report back!!
Ooh I’ve never seen kingdom so I will have to try it out!! AND OMG!!! I’m watching 25, 21 too!!! Kim taeri is so cute and I love the cast!! It’s such a lovely coming of age drama!! DKFKCMCMCN I SNORTED OMG, listen somehow nam joohyuk gets us all…i remember that i literally stopped in the middle of the first episode of bride of the water god bc I couldn’t take it and now look at me KXKXCNCK
I missed you angel!! I hope you’re doing well and I’m sending all the good luck you’re way!! And all the hugs and kisses!! I hope you have a lovely weekend and can drink some wine and have some desserts!! 💗💖💞 also I’m so excited to experience another rv comeback with u!! Please expect me to come screaming into your inbox!!
HI BB I MISSED U 🥺🤍 aw thank u so much i’m definitely going to try to take better care of myself 🤧🤍🤍🤍 i hope you’ve been doing well, drinking ur water + getting all the rest u deserve !!!! march was a weird month 🙃 i’m finally getting my life together slowly but surely so i take that as a good sign !
omg figure skating… getting them war flashbacks as i type 🤕 it’s so fascinating to see we share the same interests tho !!!! sag twin indeed !!!! i agree w what u said about artistry >> my only exception is sasha trusova for some reason idgaf about artistry when she skates i love my unhinged jump champion 🥲
ooooo ive never tried those flavors before 🧐 i really need to try more to have a fave ;; n YAY A TAEYEON FAN ! she has the best albums for real… what are ur fave songs??? ok maybe i will post the yoongi drabble just for u ! n dj ddjwjsk i still haven’t listened to apink 😭 pls tell me if it’s worth it or not
yes i love kingdom !! 🥺 n omg i actually haven’t watched anything after ep 8 if 2521 the reviews and comments about the rest scare me 😭😭😭 it was really cute up to that point tho but i don’t want the drama to disappoint me ;;;; DONT MENTION BRIDE OF THE WATER GOD it’s a cursed drama omg it was so bad i couldn’t finish ep1 either
MISS U TOO ALWAYS ! ur comments n messages are a big positive part of this blog 🤍 ily i wish only good things for u !!!! i def had all the wine i could have (+ desserts) n i hope u also treated urself to some nice things hehe ! i will answer ur rv ask in a separate ask bc idk how to combine it on mobile ! 😚
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henry-hart · 6 years ago
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The Danger Begins s1 ep1
I’m so glad I decided to rewatch this because it made me so happy!!!! (also, to keep you guys from getting uber annoyed with me, i’m just gonna lb on one big post like this from now on lolol)
first off
s1 henry was the cutest thing to ever exist. ever. my heart couldn’t take it bc he’s so grown now but in that first ep he’s this adorable little baby chick ajdksjslk
it was so incredible to see Siren on my screen. Like, within thirty seconds BAM there she was. i felt blessed, like she blessed my laptop
PIPER. MY OVERDRAMATIC DAUGHTER. I miss her “I am NOT okay!!!” catchphrase akdjlsj 
her “so we’re living like animals now” reply to being told to wait for her video to load---same girl, same.
Henry at 13 was a million times more proactive about the whole job search than I have ever been and I’m 22 sksjskjsk
his whole “I’m not good at anything. I’m a big ball of average”---I feel that lol
“No special skills needed.” “That’s me!!” 
okay one of Char’s first lines was “One day when you two are cleaning my pool bc you failed this algebra test...” and it doesn’t get more iconic than that
GOOCH. I HAVE MISSED YOU. 
Ray just coming in with all these ridiculous questions lolol poor Hen
“I’m 13. I’ll be 14....on my next bday.” ajskjsksljk
“Ah, so you’re aging sequentially. I like that. The name’s Ray.” “Nice to meet you, Ray. I’m Henry.” “You ask a lot of questions.” “I....don’t think....I’ve asked any questions...????” loved it
I laughed when Ray changed into his uniform and the zipper got stuck (that never happens again????)
“Did you have to melt my phone???” Hen, sweetie, hate to break it to you, but your phone gets broken.....preeeeetty much every ep (need me a bank account like that where I can steady get new iphones)
WhAt Do YoU mEaN nO sPeCiAl SkIlLs HeNrY???? yOu NoTiCeD tHe TaToO!!!!!! u smart lil cookie
Ray was all “I’m getting old. I can’t do this forever.” Two things: 1) RAY DID YOU JUST REFER TO YOURSELF AND OLD IN THE SAME SENTENCE??? 2) why is this never mentioned again??? Like, Ray got a sidekick to pass the mantle onto someone younger to keep protecting Swellview when he’s done. We’re like 4 yrs down the line, and they haven’t even hinted towards CM retiring??? (I know that would mean the end of the show, but they could at least bring it up every now and then)
OK. hated the toddler then. hate him now. 
Props to the props department (ha ha get it???) for all the junk in the store. It’s all so strange and doesn’t make sense and fits the show so well (also it seems like each ep has diff junk??? that’s impressive)
“They seem like nice kids.” “Yeah, they’re names are Jasper x Charlotte. I’ve known them ever since--” “Get rid of them.” “I’ll get rid of them.”
DAWWWW Jasper x his buckets :’))))
“I told you Canadian money upsets ppl!!!” Ah Char (I wonder if Riele comes up with some of these Canada jokes??)
OMG I FORGOT ABOUT HEN’S HORRIBLE TEST WARDROBE. IMAGINE IF THEY HAD KEPT ONE OF THOSE IDEAS AKSJLKSJ (there really wasn’t any need for a whole test wardrobe tho--just style an outfit to fits Ray’s. His obvs works out well for him) (I know that’s what they ended up doing lolol)
Okay, Ray’s “Oh man. I ate a lot of fruit.” line KILLS. ME. bc when i first watched this ep, every time the scene changed and Ray was shown w/ a diff fruit, I was like, “Why...is he eating so much fruit????” bc they’re all diff and he even eats a whole pineapple--outside peel and all. BUT I WAS THINKING IT AND THEN HE SAID IT AND IT MADE IT ONE MILLION TIMES FUNNIER.
LIL BB HEN IN HIS SUIT FOR THE FIRST TIME. I CRY. HE’S SO TINY AND HAPPY
“Chew gum. Blow bubble. Fight crime.” Ray wrote those instructions. I just know it. aksjskl
“And what does a single flashing light mean?” “Just to shoot me a text, you know, whenever.” aksjklsk
HENRY JUST GAVE HIS PLEDGE. THEN. HE. SAID. THE. ICONIC. “FEELS GOOD” FOR. THE. FIRST. TIME. I’M CRYING.
Hen not knowing how to get the tubes to work and just jumping up and down making noises aksjlsk
“Affirmative.” “That means ‘yes’.” “I got that.” and so the sass begins lolol love it
“Awwww no! That was my favorite bridge!”
“I hate my life and I am NOT okay.” i feel u Pipes
the sass is strong in those Hart kids. Siren x Jake can’t catch a break aksjslk
Siren. Hart. Is. So. Beautiful. her hair just looks so good this ep
“I’ll run away. I’ll do it.” ajskjskl Pipes chill
Jake....Siren...that’s....your son on the tv screen...like.....that’s literally your child’s face.....the product of both of your genes is right there.....plastered on the screen.....how do u....not....recognize him?????
“Two ppl said they might come.” “Who?” “Sidney Birnbaum and Oliver Pook.” “Ew.” “Those guys eat bugs.” “So? They’re people.” I just love the kid’s line delivery here lolol
I just want everyone to know that s1 Henry is the cutest. I already said it, but I’m saying it again. 
Henry panicking bc he doesn’t want C x J to keep reading about KD but he also doesn’t know what to do so he just throws a glass and smacks C’s phone out of her hand and clean across the room ajskjslk SAME
Jace was so.....twitchy in the first two seasons. He’s really mellowed---which I understand it happens when you get older---but it’s just so funny to see this little bean with all his crazy expressions and loud outbursts and rapid movements lolol
Hey Lelani? You’re hot (give me ukelele lessons pls)
“The toddler’s men stole 5,000 packages of diapers. Can you guess why?” “Uhhhh???” “To bombard the diapers with radioactive zenite particles.” “.....I would not have guessed that.”
also Ray getting lower to the ground as he talks and Hen just following is so funny to me. Ray was really extra in that first ep 
RAYMOND MANCHESTER HOW DARE YOU GET MAD AT HEN FOR WANTING TO GO TO HIS BFF’S BDAY PARTY INSTEAD OF FIGHTING CRIME. HE IS 13. AND YOU WOULD LATER CALL HIM UP WITH THE EMERGENCY ALARM PAST 12 AT NIGHT FOR CORNDOGS, SO I DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT.
“Okay. Okay. It’s cool. You go to Jasper’s party. I’ll handle the toddler by myself. Don’t worry about it.” “Are you sure?” “Yeah. I’ve battled the toddler alone before--almost killed me, but whatever.” and u still want to take a 13 yr old out there??? Ray.
“No, I’m not bringing the muffins!” but u said u would
okay, but the news jumping from CM’s kidnapping to a report on why squirrels love nuts???? TOO tru (they really do that “here’s something serious. kids are dying. now here’s this pointless and meaningless crap” lolol)
“I can’t talk! I’m naked!” friends anyone??? (“You can’t come in. Ross is naked.” “Why’d you tell her I was naked???” “I couldn’t tell her I was naked. She’s allowed to see me naked.” “Why does anyone have to be naked???”) (sorry i just love friends akjslkjs)
I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO HAVE SIDNEY X OLIVER ON MY SCREEN. I LOVE THEM. 
I hate u toddler. just in case you were doubting.
Jasper unknowingly saving the day by downloading that sound effect app on Hen’s phone *claps for him*
Henry just....completely kicking butt on his second day???? That’s my son.
“Captain Man!” “Henry!” “It’s Kid Danger.” :))))) I’M SQUEALING. I’M SO PROUD OF HIM. HIS LIL POINT TO RAY AND THAT SMALL SMILE. TOO. CUTE. (also Ray just namedropping like they don’t have identities to protect)
“How do I get you out of there?” “I don’t know. This is the first time I’ve been stuck in a baby bouncer hovering over a bottomless ball pit.” CALL SUPERHEROES OUT, RAY. all these extravagant traps they’re caught in and they just....know what to do??? Doubtful. (bottomless pits are impossible, but you know lol)
Ray swinging around everywhere in that baby bouncer was hilarious alkjdlksj
that spitting device is the literal WORST thing i have ever seen. i freaking hate spit.
God, i wish the toddler had stayed tf down there in that ball pit. i wish that bottle had blown him to the center of the earth. (sorry i just really don’t like him akdjslj)
“What do we do with this? (the bottle bomb)” “We give the baby his bottle.” “Ah. Good call.” “Hey.” “Suuuuup.” “Hurry.” “Oh, right.” aksjlsksjl there are some really good moments in this ep
Ray shielding Henry was <33333 (it would be really messed up if he hadn’t considering he’s indestructible, but I like to think that he chose to)
AJKSJSKLSKSJLK HENRY’S FACE WHEN RAY TOLD HIM “GOOD JOB” WAS SOOOOOOO PRECIOUS. He looked so shocked. Like, “CM thinks I did a good job????” 
It’s like, Henry’s second day on the job, and they’re just namedropping right and left. Why be careful???? It’s not like they have secret identities or anything.....(they steady use their real names. i guess they don’t really have to worry. C must be the only smart person in Swellview bc no one else seems capable of figuring it out. I mean, not even his parents recognized him ajksjslk)
If you need any proof that Ray is a good guy, just watch this ep. His willingness to show up to J’s party despite only knowing Hen for like two days is a solid testament to his character. This is the Ray I know and love.
awwwwww poor Jasp. your party isn’t a flop. It’s about to be lit af because your bff is HENRY FREAKING HART, THE SWEETEST BOY TO EVER LIVE.
Ray, your excuse is horrible. “My van broke down across the street so I decided to come into this house and into this basement.” alskjlskj what is that????
“You’re CM!” “Thank you.” “You’re my hero!” “Of course.” oh Ray
Henry’s just watching J freak out over CM, watching how excited and happy J is and knowing he did that for him, and it’s just----my heart is all ajkdjlsjks
Char is the cutest in this ep. she’s fangirling over CM, and it’s so weird bc now she can’t stand him lolol
Hen x Ray pretending they don’t know each other. SO. PRECIOUS. Ray’s face is so sweet and they share this secret smile and just GAHHHH
J asking CM if he can hit him w/ a bball bat alksjlk “Remember kids: never do this to anyone but CM bc regular ppl could be badly inju--AHHHHHH.......I wasn’t done talking.” “Did that hurt?” “Yeah. But I’m okay.” the way Ray says yeah cracks me up bc it’s like, duh it hurt. it was a bat hitting my head lolol
“Hey, CM?” “Yes, boy?” “Would it be ok if Jasp texted a few friends and told them you were here at his party?” “Suuurrreeee. I love being used.” Ray kills me. cooper x jace have some of the best line delivery/comedic timing akdjslkj
*J is shaking CM’s hand* “Thank you so much! This is the best day of my life!” “Ha ha, are your hands always this sweaty?” “Yes sir.” “He takes medicine for it.” “Wellllll, it’s not working.” *wipes hand on J and leaves wet mark* ajsklj poor Jasper
Henry brought the muffins after all <33333 “Muffins.” “Yeah.” (you can tell Jace x Sean were already good friends. so cute.)
Hen x Char got Jasp the bucket from the shop that Gooch wouldn’t let him have. Dawwwwww
“For awhile there, I thought you weren’t gonna come.” “Come on, man. I’ll always be there for you.” then. they. hug. they’re. so. cute. i. love. solid. friendships.
HENRY’S LAST LITTLE LOOK AT THE PARTY BEFORE HE LEAVES IS THE BEST THING EVER. THE LITTLE NOD HE MAKES LIKE, “YEAH. THIS IS GOOD.” LIKE, HE’S PERFECTLY OK WITH MISSING OUT SO LONG AS EVERYONE ELSE IS HAVING FUN. AHHHHHH. I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. :)))))) <3333333
that was a perfect way to end an ep
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I’m glad I watched this. I’ve forgotten most of the earlier episodes which is a crime because they’re so good. It was hard to see Jace so little when he’s so grown now!!!!! My heart couldn’t take it. But lil Henry is precious and I love him. Stay tuned for more rewatches!!!! xoxoxox
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History of YOI fandom
As a YOI fandom grandparent, I felt it was my duty to write out all the fandom explosions for the newer fans who weren’t there to witness the big bang and gradual week-by-week creation of this universe. All the arguments, people blowing things out of proportion, blaming characters, death theories, awesome fans clearing up miscommunications, YOI breaking the internet... 
This isn’t a post to call out specific people on their arguments and theories - I’ll stay respectfully away from restarting flames and picking fights, thankyouverymuch. Rather, this is an overview of the topics and conflicting views that swept across hundreds and thousands of people and prompted strong reactions. I’m doing this now, because I know that 6 months later, 1 year later, 3 years later, etc. there will be new fans who will have many of the same exact arguments. We’ve been there and done that. I see fans now who say things without knowing where the spelling/quote comes from, or who don’t realize how much has changed, or don’t know why there are certain perceptions of characters. So here’s a little bit of passing down history.
I also don’t want to forget the crazy ride this was. Laugh with me at the silly theories; smile with me at how deeply YOI has impacted our lives. For those of us old-timers, let’s take a trip down memory lane. Remember when...
---------------- (Large arguments will be italicized or bold. Special thanks to @sachiro for reminding me of a bunch of stuff I missed, and looking over the draft in its various stages of being written and edited.)
Pre-series
Idea that there would be a love triangle (Yuri P.--Yuri K.--Victor)
Some fans started spelling Yuri Katsuki with two “u” in order to tell them apart.
Victuri ship name created for Victor x Yuri K. (in a comment to the PV)
The title
“lol ‘Yuri’ on Ice? Where are all the lesbians?”
“When it said Yuri on Ice, I thought we would get girls. Y’know what I mean?”
“Yuri on Ice? More like Yaoi on Ice! amiright?”
etc.
J.J. misspelling (English spelling “Jean Jack” instead of French Canadian “Jean-Jacques”)
you can see the remnants of this in the audience banners during the episodes, but it was corrected to “Jean-Jacques” on the official website and the in-show text
Phichit x Seung-gil ship created (there was more art for this than for Victor x Yuuri)
Episode 1
Victor vs. Viktor spelling arguments 
Although “Victor” is the official spelling and seen in-show, people argued that the creators are wrong and that we fans know better than them about Russian culture - thus the “Viktor” spelling was born.
People argued back that spelling is subjective and you can spell a name multiple ways and still be correct - thus transliterating his Russian name into English as “Victor” would be just as acceptable.
The YOI wiki held fast for a time on using official spellings and information from the official website, but the transition of power led to a new team that started using agreed-upon info rather than solely using official info. “Viktor” replaced “Victor” on the website.
this change from “Victor” to “Viktor” on the wiki happened around episode 2~3, but the arguments were in the page comments since episode 1 -- with moderators explaining their reasoning with sticking to official sources.
Victor is a flirtatious over-the-top character who will seduce Yuuri
Victor is the overwhelming seme and Yuuri is the shy whimpering uke.
People dropping the anime because Yuuri is overweight; people commenting that they don’t want to see an overweight main character
in addition, some people dropping YOI due to feeling that the series was “fat shaming” by using Yuuri’s weight as a point of comedy.
Conversely, some people praising that we have a main character that gains weight and actually has an overweight appearance. 
“Japanese Yuri” &“Russian Yuri” or “Yuri K.” &“Yuri P.” were used to differentiate between the two characters since they shared the same official English spelling “Yuri”.
Starting with ep1, “Yuuri” spelled with two “u” became more widespread due to convenience when typing.  
Japanese fandom simply used kanji for Yuri Katsuki and katakana for Yuri Plisetsky. 
Some fans argue that Yuuri is more correct because in Japanese his name is ゆうり(yu-u-ri). Other fans argue that “Yuri” is still acceptable transliteration because there are multiple spelling systems (Hepburn, etc.) and an alternative correct spelling would be with a macron (Yūri).
Fans point out that Yuri’s name would be spelled “Yuri” in official documents anyway due to lack of macrons on many keyboards.
Spoilers for episodes 1-3 were out because of the two Western fans who witnessed the first three episodes of YOI in a Tokyo preview screening.
fans relied on a certain blogger for info on YOI. 
“WHERE DID YOU SEE EPISODES 2&3???” was asked every 5-10 minutes (literally) and became an inside joke with us old-timers.
Yuuri = Yuzuru Hanyu, Victor = Evgeni Plushenko.
Some fans link characters with real-life skaters to encourage anime fans to watch real skating. 
Some fans saw these as one-to-one connections without considering that characters are a mix of various real-life skaters, and then went onto YouTube videos and spammed about “real-life Yuuri.” 
YOI fans being rude to skaters and sending emails to ship these real-life skaters (emails sent even to skaters who are married with kids)
Amazing researching fans:
find Victor’s apartment and the beach from the ending credits Instagram roll.
Love hotel
Makkachin’s name found in magazine Yuko was holding 
speculation starts on what “Makkachin” means and how it should be transliterated (Makkatine, Mocatine, Makkatin, etc.)
Comparisons of Yuuri to the main character from Parasyte due to similar appearances (Tadashi Hiramatsu, the character designer who adapted Kubo-sensei’s initial designs for animating, was the main character designer for Parasyte).
Speculation on the year in-series starts. 
Yoyogi for Worlds doesn’t match with Sochi as the GPF location.
Yuuri’s iPhone model is seen as a clue.
“Yuri on Ice” trends for 6 days on Tumblr
Episode 2
Victor is manipulative:
He’s a playboy and flirting all the time 
In episode 1 Minako mentions that he is desired by millions. 
His wink in episode 1 shows that he casually flirts with fans.
He will break Yuuri’s heart. He came to romance Yuuri, then drop him later.
He’s already pushing into Yuuri’s space with the chin-touching. That MUST mean he’s suave and planning to seduce and drop him.
“Victor calling him ‘piglet’ is so mean!” -- an extension to the fat shaming debate of episode 1.
Yakov’s angry comment to the press = more fodder about Victor being selfish and only there in Hasetsu for his own pleasure.
Victor is horrible because he broke his promise to Yurio x-number of years ago.
All of his happy smiles are a facade and he can’t actually be that nice. 
Counterarguments to trust the creators and wait to see more about these characters because it’s only been 2 episodes.
Koibito translation nitpicking (it’s not “girlfriend,” Victor is saying “lover.” It’s a gender-neutral term.)
people calling this queerbaiting
“It can’t get any gayer!” line starts to make its appearance.
Ship name “Victuri” cemented. “Victuri sounds like victory!”
Arguments about spelling it “victuuri,” because of the trend with spelling Yuri K.’s name as Yuuri to differentiate the two Yuri’s. 
Counterarguments that “Victurio” would be for Yuri Plisetsky, so therefore “Victuri” would be fine for Yuri Katsuki.
Evgenia Medvedeva starts watching around this time and posts comments on her twitter account.
The livestreaming IRC group is started. There were about 15 people tuning in (this grows to the hundreds by the last episode).
Mira makes her appearance (more of an appearance than the brief flash in ep1). Her name isn’t announced yet so some people nickname her “Natasha” (after the Marvel comics character Natasha Romanova/Black Widow)
Episode 3
Yurio was robbed. 
and all the counterarguments against this.
score calculating posts begin to show up.
“Victor is manipulative” evolves into “Victor is evil” 
“he didn’t keep his promise to Yurio”
people ignoring that he actually did keep his promise to choreograph a program
Eros story Yuuri tells Nishigori = parallel to how Victor will abandon Yuuri in the end. Victor is the evil playboy, confirmed!
People fighting this with meta about how Yuuri is the seductress keeping the playboy, and this was all Yuuri’s interpretation -- Victor may have had another story in mind and we’ll never know what it was. (<---until episode 10)
He forgot Onsen on Ice was about the competition and was there playing around as Hasetsu ambassador. He doesn’t REALLY care about the two Yuri’s.
“he didn’t notice when Yurio left and was having the time of his life with Yuuri on the podium”
Victor’s super-serious expression when Yuuri hugged him means he doesn’t care.
“Make a man pregnant” - the start of the ABO fic influx
“Katsudon ga daisuki da yo” is how we say “I love you” in YOI.
Boyfriend shirt has taken on a new level: boyfriend costume.
Yuuri and genderfluidity 
quite a few fics were spawned from this topic too
YOI is not yaoi -  how genre is not the same as tags. Posts clarifying what yaoi actually is and why Yuri on Ice doesn’t fit that genre at all.
Yuuri getting more confident by episode 3 already - initiating hugs and contact with Victor. “How much more gay can we get!? They already said ‘I love you’!”
Fanfic explosion 
due to Victor’s character being slightly more fleshed out, and the relationship between characters becoming more established
Top!Yuuri starts to make appearances
Going in blind to the episodes from here-on-out because the fan report from the screening was only through episode 3.
Real life skaters are noticing and posting on social media about YOI. 
Evgenia Medvedeva, Denis Ten,  Deniss Vasiļjevs & Stéphane Lambiel, Ashley Wagner, Danny O’Shea and many others from here on. 
Masterpost soon created to document all these skaters.
Kubo-sensei tweets about episode 4 being her favorite
Episode 4
Victor has cancer/is dying.
He was so dramatic and playful when he joked about balding. That means he’s hiding something. Balding = cancer. Therefore Victor is dying! (Note that cancer doesn’t cause balding, although it’s treatment with chemotherapy does.) 
Victor being that out of breath must mean something is wrong.
Victor’s comment about injuries = 
he’s hurt but hiding it
we can expect someone to be injured later
Rise of fanfiction featuring Victor with large past injuries he’s kept hidden.
Celestino getting annoyed at Victor = more fodder for Victor being evil. 
No coach likes him - that means he must be untrustworthy and there must be something that he’s hiding that we don’t know yet.
The Old Man in the onsen becomes a fandom celebrity for a while (captain of the ship)
Victor’s comment on Yuuri’s stamina = fic fodder
“You meet me where I am” - fans exploding at how meaningful this all is and how far they’ve come in four episodes.
“What do you want me to be to you”
---Victor said “koibito” but subs say “boyfriend”
---Daddy kink: “A father--” “Yes!” 
this is when we start to see this kink in fics and fanart/comics
Phichit makes his appearance. Fandom explodes with glee. People pointed out his appearance in episode 1 and more explosions of “no detail left behind”
Aeroflot
Enter Lilia and her teaching Yurio.
Evil Lilia and Yakov
“Yurio should have stayed with Victor”
Kubo-sensei laughs at the rumors of Victor dying.
Everyone and their mother tries to learn to make katsudon - various recipes float around; Crunchyroll releases recipe (Nov 4). 
Jokes and critique about YOI dub (Gru!Victor; Russia(Hetalia)!Victor)
Episode 5
Victor obviously knows no Japanese at all vs. Victor obviously knows a little Japanese after living there for 6 months (about whether or not Victor understood Yuuri’s love declaration due to him commenting about the tie and not the confession)
Fan comics/art and fanfiction about burning Yuuri’s necktie
JARAN jacket (that one scene with Yuuri’s jacket misspelled)
Lots of flailing and dozens of gifs of the lip balm scene
awesome fans finding the exact Chanel lip balm
Yuuri’s confident walk = flailing and keyboard smashing moment (gifs with explosions behind him)
Hug meta (back hug; “do the hands on neck mean anything?”)
Minami is a chicken nugget (McDonald’s colors + being small)
First time we hear Victor’s thoughts - people discussing this
Victor’s image shifts away from “evil Victor” towards something a little more positive
Leaks of the Oh! Skatra!!! Tracklisting (Nov 6).
Duetto title makes people freak out
Speculation on who will skate what piece.
Speculation starts on who will appear in which GP series competition.
Pre-episode 6
Jealous/Possessive!Victor due to the ending image in ep5 of him wrapping his arm around a flustered Yuuri.
speculation on where that is and who took the picture
Dengeki, the website that posts teaser pictures and text of various anime’s next episodes, posted a teaser summary on their site that used quite a few innuendos.
Starting from here, YOI episode previews start to be released later and later. This becomes a running gag among fans who stay up to wait for previews. 
Episode 6
Chris makes everyone uncomfortable.
wet ice comments
People freaking out about the hand holding (“koibito tsunagi/lover’s hold”) then about the lip licking
Victor’s innuendo and lewd mouth animation
Victor actually is sexually attracted to Yuuri
Paired with Yuuri being comfortable with Victor clinging naked to him at the restaurant, and worrying that people would think he’s not serious about the competition = fans arguing how far they’ve gone
Queerbaiting arguments still continue ( “fujoshi bait” and “fanservice”)
“Ai ha katsu” (Love wins!)
Georgi is an Evil Witch
Leo = awesome representation (non-white character representing the U.S.A.)
Phichit meme ( “scandalized” with hand on mouth)
Phichit is captain of the Victuri ship
Kubo-sensei posts summary of The King and The Skater 
Pre episode 7
Dengeki, what in the ever living F is that preview summary (twitter)? Along with the shortened version.
Another preview summary wtheck comment - this time from a YOI animator, Itou Noriko
“Drastic measures”??? Will Victor hug Yuuri? Violence? Harsh words? Kiss on the forehead or MAYBE the cheek?
fanfics, comics, lots of speculation
Episode 7
Kiss vs. Hug
drawings/charts/tracings to prove it was a kiss
queerbaiting comments continue
Western fans ask Kubo-sensei for a direct answer; she’s amused that Japanese fans didn’t need confirmation yet Western fans did
Yuri on Ice trends on Tumblr for two days at #1 (previous episodes had trended in top 3 for about a day).
“Japanese censorship is what made them cover the kiss!” -- and the subsequent posts that stopped this misinformation.
“Victor is evil” continues - he was cruel in the parking garage and the queerbait lip hug was obviously just consolation
Chris, stahp! (more wet ice comments)
Guang-Hong is badass, Leoji ship sails further
Georgi is creepy, some people hate Anya, some feel sympathy for her
Georgi’s outfit = figure-skating Elsa (photoshopped pictures)
Head boop
Aired after the U.S. election - “episode 7 is the only good thing that happened this week”
“YOI singlehandedly saved 2k16”
Watchers dropping the anime because Victuri became canon.
some people liked the anime as long as it was still ambiguous. This kiss/hug scene made it much less ambiguous and left them feeling awkward.
some people liked it as long as the pairing was not mainstream - they liked being a niche shipper.
Conversely, more people started watching once they heard it was canon and not queerbaiting/fan service.
Johnny Weir homage with young Victor’s outfit and rose crown at European Worlds.
Johnny hears of this and adds YOI on his to-watch list.
Kubo-sensei tweets about a certain scene - confirms and does not confirm it as a kiss
pre-Episode 8
Will YOI talk about homophobia and LGBT hatred?
They’re going to Russia next - lots of fanfiction about Victor dealing with past and current homophobia, and how Yuuri and Victor would act during their stay in Russia.
Magazine had the titles for episodes 8 and 9 - “Victor returns to Japan” has people theorize about what could be drastic enough to have him return.
Kubo-sensei strikes again:
tweets about looking forward to Dengeki’s summary this week and ends up trolling the fandom.
being one of us and wanting them to get married already.
Makkachin’s name revealed to have no meaning.
Dengeki posts 5 hours later than normal.
Episode 8
Angry fans yelling “Why didn’t they use this chance to address hatred?”
People arguing about how this is nice because we already have so many other series about hatred and would it kill them to let us have ONE nice thing in life? Let’s just appreciate that we get a happy relationship with no prejudice or hatred from the world for once.
Kubo-sensei defending the hate-free world she created.
Seung-gil feather duster/parrot/swiffer comments and comparisons.
Sala vs Sara
official site and subs romanized her name as “Sala” but a more natural spelling would be “Sara.” (sala means living room in Spanish and Italian) 
wihin the week, the spelling was corrected on both the website and subs to “Sara.”
Mila Babicheva was also changed to Mira Babicheva at this time.
Makkachin-related tags and comments
#Don’t die Makka!
#SaveMakka2k16
#Makkachoked
Speculation on what Yuuri will place - and who will make it to the GPF.
J.J. and the cross - many understood it as a religious motion, but it was soon linked by figure skating fans to Yuzuru’s cross motion to check body axis.
Kissing the ice - seen as “J.J. is so narcissistic and kissing himself,” then disputed by other fans as a sign of respect for the ice much like real-life athletes do with the ice, track&field, and court.
Yurio x J.J. shipping starts
Sub!Victor fanfic boom, BDSM, foot fetish, and other related body worship fics
YOI trends over Barack Obama (Nov 24)
Katsudon recipe released by Funimation on Yuuri’s birthday (Nov. 29)
Preview images for ep9 of Sara encroaching on Yuuri - some people worried that this would be in-series drama or that fans would ship it.
Dengeki still posting way later than they used to. This leads to lots of waiting and loss of hope for future episodes until…
Episode 9
Freaking out over the airport scene:
“What did Yuuri’s tears mean???” 
relieved/touched Victor cares for him and returns feelings? All the emotions catching up from their separation and the hard skating? 
guilt over hiding that he will retire soon? Sadness that this will only last 2 more weeks?
Clarifying why Victor brought up “proposal” (“Why does what Yuuri said sound like a proposal?”)
People “fixing” the subs (mis)translate the word “koto” as if it was the word “mono” and end up making Yuuri’s line to Victor sound super possessive/cheesy as a result.
Yuuri mentioning that he’ll win gold prompts discussions about “Does Yuuri need a gold medal to be happy? Is a gold necessary for his character?”
Fandom exploding over Yurio’s pure smile and friendship with Yuuri
People uneasy over Sara and Michele’s sibling relationship.
Mira x Sara ship gains steam and sets sail.
“Hug zombie” - the term given to Yuuri’s hugging spree
Johnny Weir planned to watch YOI “one episode per day,” but failed and watched two episodes the first day. Then binged the rest within two more days and caught up in time for episode 10 on Wednesday.
Naked Victor on the front page of NBC due to Johnny’s tweets
Crunchyroll releases Katsudon Pirozhki recipe (Dec 7)
pre-Episode 10
“Something round and golden” -- gold medal, wedding rings, cock rings, onion rings, golden snitch
Kubo-sensei fanning the flames
we were losing hope for teasers until... our saviors, Animate, took over for posting them. Dengeki still posted the identical teaser pics on their site, but did so at a later hour.
Preview lines about Yuuri recalling the previous year’s nightmare banquet.
Translation confusion led to people thinking it was a “nightmare bucket” “nightmare baguette” (and other attempts to find the correct foreign word) until someone pointed out that figure skating competitions have banquets.
Theories about what happened at the banquet. 
Episode 10
Rings
Yuuri buying one ring (with Victor buying the other) vs. Yuuri buying pair rings as a set 
would later be confirmed in a magazine post-series that Yuuri bought both rings
Are they really engaged or not?
Best plot twist ever.
The ending changes everything we ever knew about this series 
 people analyzing all the interactions since episode 1
“Poor Victor” comments and tags appear
“Victor was pining all along!”
Victor seen as super patient and willing to let Yuuri drive the pace (because he never brings up the banquet in order to respect Yuuri’s shyness). 
Victor flying to Japan with his dick out. 
Victor had a crush on Yuuri since the beginning.
“Victor is a dork who would do anything for love” mentality sweeps away previous malaise.
fanfic and fanart explosion of dorky, loving Victor 
This is when the loving!Victor image squashed any lingering remnants of evil!Victor 
Eros parallel re-interpreted as Yuuri being the playboy and Victor being the woman seduced and left behind. 
Victor is savage for making a program based on the banquet and thinking to skate it for a season. 
Pole dancers comment that the moves in Yuri on Ice reference actual moves (Yuuri is pretty good and has great grip strength; a couple of Chris’ moves are incredibly hard)
Otayuri (Otabek x Yurio) becomes a pairing
Beach scene discussion - was Victor angry or not, and why?
Hype for Kubo-sensei revealing that the GPF would have the most realistic animation of all the episodes.
Animate posted late (only a few hours before airing), but Dengeki even later.
Episode 11
“Scoring system is broken!”
Yurio’s score is literally impossible using the current real-life ISU scoring system (he’s about 5 points too high)
Yuuri scored low despite low number of technical mistakes
J.J. given a higher score than should be allowed because of his huge errors.
Discussion on Victor looking out at the ice during Yurio’s SP (“what was he thinking?”), and discussion about his flashback and burden
Chris’ mystery man ( “Chris’ boyfriend”? “Who IS that guy???”)
Half the fandom dies with Yuuri’s last sentence; half the fandom trusts Kubo-sensei (and comforts the other half)
Evgenia posts a tweet trusting everything will be alright
People’s view of J.J. changes - some sympathy and “??? I never expected to actually care for this guy!”
It seems everyone pitches their predictions about who will be on the podium.
“Phichit’s hamsters predict the podium?” theory
pre-Episode 12
We give up on teasers because they’re so late. Animate releases them a few hours before the episode airs.
Oh!SkaTra!!! Yuri!!! on ICE Soundtrack released about a day before the final episode aired.
“Spoilers” (but not really, because we had the tracklist since episode 5). We confirm the last two songs are the exhibition skates. People avoid Tumblr until the episode airs because of the “spoiler threat.” 
Episode 12
Breaking Tumblr, Crunchyroll, and Animate.
Crunchyroll released a statement on Twitter about YOI’s high traffic breaking it.
Tumblr crashed (traffic volume too high) right after the CR simulcast/subs came out around 4PM EST. It wasn’t fully fixed until several hours later.
Animate’s website crashed for the same reason as above.
“It wasn’t gay enough”
People feeling disappointed about the relationship between Yuuri and Victor because there was no second kiss or explicit “I love you.” People wanted something that could not be denied (wanted an “uncensored” kiss).
Others counter-argued that relationships can show deep love without needing an “I love you,” and point out how the relationship was built steadily throughout the series.
People feeling betrayed because Yuuri didn’t win gold.
“Otabek was robbed!” and “J.J. overscored!” complaints circulate
“I won’t kiss it unless it’s gold” prompted a legion of pictures/comics, and fics.
Gushing over the liberate use of ring flares
“History Makers” in the end credits - the extra “s” felt like an Easter egg to some.
Ice dance vs. Pairs - many fans mistake the final Duetto exhibition skate as Pairs when it’s actually based on an Ice Dance routine
How will Victor do both skating and coaching?
Will we get a Season 2? “See You Next Level” means a second season, right? 
After the series, we saw Oh!SkaTra!!! and the DVD/BD volumes sell ridiculous amounts - easily placing in either 1st or 2nd place on Oricon’s charts for DVD, BD, CD, and CD digital release. The Blu-ray and DVD volumes continue to hold high sales. Magazines continue to be translated. Some ideas/meta are confirmed and others become defunct.
It was a wild ride from way back when YOI was only a website and PV. Every week brought new ideas, writings, meta, art, and discussions. It was to the point where some weeks you would get in-depth meta and polished art just hours after the episode aired. In fact, there was so much made that you could easily reblog hundreds of posts in a day for the more explosive episodes, and meta would either get hundreds of notes or be lost in the current of new stuff appearing every few minutes. At the rate that it’s still going with new campaigns, events, and merchandise, Yuri!!! on ICE will be active for quite some time.
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nenxchains · 8 years ago
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summary of my thoughts during s4 ep1 of Sherlock
- *loads the episode* nah I can’t do this I’m actually going to vomit i’ve waited three millennia for this  
- shERLOCK IS LIVE TWEETING SAME 
- “Free as a bird” THIS MAN IS LITERALLY THE MOST EXTRA PERSON TO WALK THE FACE OF THIS PLANET 
- “nice, warm office with my brother” “natural high” “glad to be ALOIIIIIIVEEEEEEEEEE~” YOU REALLY CAN’T BE TELLING ME THIS MAN ISN’T AS STRAIGHT AS CHRISTOPHE GIACOMETTI (yes, i’ve already said this tonight) 
- wow I hate not living in the U.K. WHY IS THIS STREAM SO PIXILATED 
- semi-unrelated but man I really like aquariums 
- “it’s never twins” JFC 
- Mrs. Hudson taking pictures reminds me of my grandma taking pictures. Molly, do the right thing and take the camera away ffs 
- THIS IS WHY WE DEACTIVATE SIRI 
- “Now, for the last time: if you want to keep the rattle, do not throw the rattle.” Sherlock, you are literally trying to reason with a baby 
- LESTRADE, SHERLOCK, AND JOHN IN ONE ROOM GOD BLESS
- LESTRADE’S FACE WHEN HE HEARD GREG COME OUT OF SHERLOCK’S MOUTH 
- PRIMADONNA GREG, ALL HE EVER WANTED WAS THE CREDIT 
- Receptionist? who’s the receptionist? MARY YOU HAVE SOME ‘SPLAINING TO DO 
- uno Sherlock reminds me of Ranpo from BSD 
- this mans really has a shrine of Margaret Thatcher ffs 
- “Margaret Thatcher, I don’t know her” - LITERALLY SHERLOCK 
- “this is a waste of time” “I KNOW WHAT I SAID” - literally Sherlock again 
- what kind of lame ass death, like i’m sorry this mans died but what a lame ass death 
- I forgot how quickly Sherlock solved cases what kind of Super Deduction nonsense is this 
- “I’ve never been good with humans” I feel u my guy (side note: *screams out the window* MYCROFT IS THE BEST CHARACTER) 
- JOHN CONTROL YOUR MANS  
- JOHN REALLY PUT A FUCKING BALLOON WITH A FACE ON THE SOFA 
- ngl tho I would still take a bullet for balloon John 
- THIS MANS LITERALLY CONCOCTED THIS CONVOLUTED STORY ABOUT A SWISS (??) SPY WHO WAS PLANNING ON TEAMING UP WITH MORIARTY AND BROUGHT OBAMA INTO ALL OF THIS WHEN REALLY THE HUSBAND’S BREATH STINKS AND HE LIKES WEARING HER BRAS I REALLY CANNOT BELIEVE SHERLOCK 
- now that I think about it, that story sounded way too real and rehearsed for it to come off the top of his head. even for sherlock. (*coughs* MARY *coughs*) 
- uno Sherlock’s attention reminds me of Jurgen Klopp sometimes 
- DID HE ACTUALLY JUST SAY “i like you” 
- *rewinds* “I like you” *neck snaps* *starts salivating* *chokes and clutches chest* fiRST VIKTURI AND NOW THIS BITCH TF 
- GREG JUST WANTS THE CREDIT part two (side note, I love how everyone is so supportive of my son’s blog) 
- y do alla these people have busts of margaret thatcher like….. pls love urselves
- THIS DRAMATIC ASS FIGHT IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW 
- FUCK MARY MORSTAN IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE REASON MY PRESSURE RISES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2017
- “what’s the plan” “no plan, we die like men” - actually Mary 
- “What are you, Wikipedia?” “Yes.” I LOVE MYCROFT
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- MARY’S ACCENT I’M DEAD AND GONE 
- “did you lose it in the war ahahahaha;sldjf” 
- wHAT HTE UCFK MARY OR WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS JFC WHO ARE YOU (also, ngl I thought of Otabek when I saw black haired Mary with her motorcycle YOI IS ALWAYS ON THE BRAIN) 
- I KNEW WE COULDN’T TRUST MARY WHOSE MANS IS THIS 
- FFFFFFFFF OF COURSE SHERLOCK BEAT HER 
- “the mathematics of probability”  fUCKIN 
- who tf is watching Rosamund? Molly? Mrs. Hudson? 
- KARIM LITERALLY CAME BACK TO A BODY ON THE GROUND THIS POOR BOY HE PROBABLY JUST WANTED SOME CHAI 
- is he cheating or is it Deeper Than That™ (the former seems a little out of character, i feel. this has to be a “there’s more than meets the eye” kind of scenario. perhaps they’re speaking in code? wtf does vampire mean who actually talks like that @ moftiss pls)  
- Mary saw the texts? is that what that was? what’s happening 
- Vivienne pls 
- “I never could resist the touch of the dramatic” oH rEaLlY sHeRlY 
- someone finna die, it’s probably going to be Mary 
- wHAT THE FUCK SHERLOCK IS REALLY GOING TO TAKE THIS BULLET-OH WAIT MARY’S TAKING THE BULLET 
- why tho 
- is she really going to die or is this some Neal Caffrey Bullshit™ 
- okay but like, i don’t think she actually died??? how did she die that fast, sherlock didn’t die that fast 
- rly I hate bio and I’m an engineering major but I don’t think she got shot anywhere ~that~ important. she couldn’t have died that fast, could she?
- does blood gush that fast? asking for a friend  
- me: it’s 2017, don’t be petty
me to me: MARY IS A LITERAL ASSASSIN EVEN JOHN DIDN’T TRUST HER 
- JOHN WHAT ARE THESE CHEWBACCA NOISES 
- “what to do about john” THIS MANS IS GOING TO SEE A THERAPIST HE IS SO LOST WITHOUT JOHN SOMEONE CALL THE AMBULAMB 
- what’s with this sticky note pls Moftiss i’m going into cardiac arrest SHERRINFORD ARE YOU SERIOUS
- MRS HUDSON’S TEARS ARE NOT WHAT I’M HERE FOR THIS SWEET OLD WOMAN 
- SHERLOCK IS PUNISHING HIMSELF WITH THIS “Norbury every time I’m cocky” THING I REALLY CAN’T DO THIS 
- JOHN PLS YOU CAN’T DO THIS TO ME 
- and in that moment you can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half 
- YOU GET BACK HERE AND APOLOGIZE TO SHERLOCK I REALLY CANNOT BELIEVE THIS YOU CANNOT BE TELLING ME JOHN HAMISH WATSON WOULD ABANDON SHERLOCK LIKE THAT 
- really the reason why this hurt me is that John only saw Mary get shot and probably assumed Sherlock didn’t do anything, which is far from the truth and I am in pain
- sAVE JOHN WATSON. FROM WAHT (side note, after the initial shock wore off, my guy, Sherlock has literally been doing this since A Study In Pink) 
- GO TO HELL FOR WHAT. IS SHE TELLING HIM TO GO TO HELL OR LITERALLY GO TO HELL 
so, in conclusion, all of my thoughts can be summarized by Michael Scott
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@ god, give me the patience to get through this month 
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