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Butcher: Does not wash his hands after peeing
Homelander: Doesn't hold his wang when he pees, yet still removes his gloves to wash his hands.
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reposting a favorite reddit moment of mine since god knows if ill ever see it again
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the boys is literally political satire man idk what to tell you
The first two seasons was as much a critique about the superhero genre as anything.
Kripke has had to be reminded by his actors that Homelander isn't a 1:1 analogue of Trump. The show has become more about TRUMP BAD after he left office than it ever was while he was president.
If you don't understand that a show can be multiple things, man idk what to tell you.
#the boys#vought thoughts#eric kripke#trump derangement syndrome in the guise of political satire has caused a show i deeply care about to become a parody of itself#the last two seasons were 'trump bad' and 'men bad'#and sorry if I'm not into that#block me or mute my url 🤷
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Re: Vought Rising
Okay, now that I've actually had some time to process this, here are my thoughts.
I still really think Kripke needs to get over his boner for Jensen and SPN. He is never going to have that again, get over it.
The show did, in fact, need to stop last season. S4 (save e4) has been one crushing disappointment after another. I don't trust him to handle certain things very well at all.
I don't understand why SB--who is just as bad as Homelander--is getting a show. Or the Nazi. He's made it very clear that we're not supposed to like the villains, going so far as to make the fan-favorite into a Trump analogue, so the reasoning behind this confuses me.
HOWEVER
I am so excited to see Aya Cash again. I love her so much, and I am praying fans can be normal to this time
I am dying to see who they cast as Chloe.
The fact that the show is going to be set in the 50s means that it's going to be difficult to make Stormfront Homelander's mom. I'm still not putting it past Eric "Let's make this as gross as we can for no reasons" Kripke, but I'm more hopeful.
Final verdict: I'm not happy it exists--not everything needs to be a Cinematic Universe--but I'll give it a shot. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, and I'll be sad, but not surprised.
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‘Tracker’: Justin Hartley on Working With Good Friend Jensen Ackles for First Time
ET has a first look at Justin Hartley and Jensen Ackles on set of ‘Tracker’ season 2, which airs Wednesdays on CBS.
#Jensen Ackles#Justin Hartley#Russell Shaw#Colter Shaw#Tracker#S2: Tracker#Tracker 2x02#Ontological Shock#*#Interesting that they brought up Justin on the boys#because I have thought about him on Vought Rising#and that sounds good he should play a role there
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why are my two favorite tropes "seemingly powerful and dominating guy turns out to be kind of pathetic" and "silly goofball of a man turns out to be terrifyingly powerful"
#vought thoughts#black noir#homelander#the boys#(he's not pathetic he just needs a hug and for someone to TELL HIM THEY ARE PROUD OF HIM)
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Things I keep forgetting:
A-train is not canonically trans
Kevin is not explicitly autistic
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What's going to be interesting re: shapeshifter is whether or not the show addresses it as rape. Because it is. But we've consistently seen Hughie mistreated by the narrative. He literally saw his girlfriend die an incredibly gruesome death right in front of him, and yet he's shamed and labeled with "toxic masculinity" when he wants powers to protect his loved ones. He wants to be able to take care of his partner the way she takes care of him, and he's shamed for it. He wants to ensure she doesn't die an equally gruesome death, and he's told no, that's bad, shame on you.
And now he's going to be a victim of rape-by-deception, and given that Kripke is.... Kripke, I really do not trust him to handle this well. It's a situation that needs to be handled sensitively and with nuance, and Kripke wouldn't know nuance if it punched him in the dick.
Also, like. Can we stop using rape as a plot device now? Not just because of how it's been handled, but because it's getting stale at this point.
#there's my two cents for anyone who cares#the boys#spoilers#vought thoughts#man i don't even give a shit about hughie#but the way he's been treated as a character is fucking bullshit
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The Boys AU where everything is the same except his mask has LEDs like Daft Punk.
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😐 or 👀, depending
#black noir#the boys#the boys (2019)#the boys amazon#the boys tv#vought thoughts#here have a shitpost
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The Boys, s2e3, "Over the Hill with the Swords of a Thousand Men" ft. Antony Starr as The Homelander (2020) // Ditto (Mr. Mime), Pokemon TCG POP Series 3 (P3) #12, illustrated by Yuka Morii (2006)
#homelander#the boys#mr. mime#ditto#pokemon#yuka morii#here have a shitpost#vought thoughts#i tried to make this a proper ~*~artsy~*~ shitpost but alas 😔
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..... Every fandom should have mermaid au so what do we think happens in The Boys universe?
#homelander#queen maeve#starlight#a train#firecracker#the deep#hughie campbell#billy butcher#the boys#the boys poll#talking stuff#honestly just thought it would be funny to imagine homelander as an Orca#..... Orca!Homelander with Vought as SeaWorld#annie january
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*cracks knuckles* Here we go. Homelander and DID.
Opening Notes
If you have any questions about systems, this post, my system specifically, or if you just want to know every single thought I have ever had about Homelander and Mirrorlander in general, shoot me an ask!
Notes on Systems
A body that has more than one person in it is a system. You see this a lot in fiction. Sometimes it's fantastical, like Atem and Yugi (YGO). Sometimes it has a more realistic basis, like Kevin and his system (Split, Glass).
Systems can be split into two categories: Endogenic, meaning that the system did not form as a result of trauma. My system, the one I'm a part of, is endogenic. The members developed as the result of roleplaying and a whole bunch of autism. Systems that formed as a result of trauma are called traumagenic. Systems where the origins are sort of hazy, or are a bit of both, are called mixed origin. Some systems like this prefer the term quoigenic.
Please note that in neither of those instances did I use the word "DID."
I do not lose time as part of my system. All of us can talk to each other and share knowledge quite easily. There is no dissociation. DID requires all of these things.
Assuming that Homelander (HL) and Mirrorlander (ML) are, in fact, a system, they do not have DID. I do believe they're traumagenic--Antony Starr himself said that HL created ML as a kid to be a sort of mother/father/friend to him.
I believe that Homelander and Mirrorlander are part of the same mixed-origin system, and that they do NOT have DID.
More under the cut.
Notes on Homelander's System
We see Homelander and Mirrorlander communicating quite well, actually. It's a whole big Thing, even. We don't know what extent the mirror plays in their communication--if they need the mirror to communicate or if it just helps them communicate or if this is just how Kripke chose to show it--but they communicate clearly and easily.
I think it's also safe to assume there's no dissociative barrier between the two. When ML is talking, HL seems to be aware of time passing. There's also no mention of any "gaps" in his memory or "missing time."
We do see him dissociate, but that isn't necessarily tied to the system. Given his childhood in general, I think it's normal.
Now, why do I think he's mixed-origin instead of endogenic or traumagenic? Because HL created ML (something generally associated with endogenic systems) to deal with the trauma of being raised as a lab rat. That blurs the line a bit. Hence, mixed-origin.
Final Notes
This post is based on personal research, a small bit of headcanon, personal experience--both as a system and in system spaces--and a general love of the show. To me, one of the most compelling things about Mirrorlander is that he doesn't fall into the "evil alter/headmate" trope, something which dates back literal centuries (Jekyll and Hyde being the earliest one most people know). This is a man who was created to protect HL, and genuinely believes that he's doing his best. To me, this is a refreshing change.
S3 was a fucking shitshow, but HL/ML was amazing. I really hope we see more in the upcoming season.
#the boys#homelander#mirrorlander#vought thoughts#i'm not too sure i'm happy with how this turned out but there you go#tldr I DO NOT BELIEVE HE HAS DID
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"Why not?"
"I wish you were a girl."
#hughlander#at first i thought of hughie saying the first quote but the more i thought about it the more it made sense for it to be john HEAR ME OUT..#he was obviously trained to only enjoy the whole “american dream” so ofc that picture perfect look for him would be a woman next to him#while he himself is a piece of shit and cares only about his image he also just doesnt give a shit#(based on his behavior l8r on in the show) he also just doesnt care what anyone has to say especially since in his eyes he is THE strongest#no one can say anything to him and hes untouchable..which is why his odd obsession with hughie will prove to be zero issue#and while he tries to make a connection with hughie in his own overly possesive way hughie holds himself firm with his actions#(lowkey where things gets ooc oh well idc) homelander does try and make SOME sort of attempt in picking at his brain anf at hughie as to#figure out WHY he even is interested in “that loser” and in doing so he eventually finds that hughie for whatever stupid reason#notices that he GENUINELY does care about people and that its not some front like he really does and TRY to see some good in people#so john opens up slightly to him about what people at vought did to him as a kid and its those moments where homelander tries to make it-#light buy hughie looks at him and i mean really /looks/ at him and says “jesus thats fucked Im sorry” and john is absolutely dumbfounded#like so dumbfounded and the god honest yet short comment in regards to him opening up about his past#essentially john starts to feel what he always imagined what “feelings” are supposed to be and after a long time of him and hughie oddly#finding some sort of “middle ground” he tries to pull a move in a moment of odd peace amongst the two and hughie jerks back#john is so confused and i mean REALLY confused#he thought he read all those “signals” right based on the romantic films he was forced to watch why is hughie acting like this?#he doesnt want to even think about what this pain in his chest is and all he can ask is “why not?”
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You know how I’ve been saying that Jarpad being in The Boys is my worst nightmare?
… yeah if the alternative is him being a regular on Vought Rising sign him the fuck up for S5 right now.
#Vought Rising#jarpad#ive thought about it and there is ONE thing worse than him being on the boys#Because there would be so much cringe press about them being ‘reunited on screen’#🤢🤢🤢#The boys#Don’t get me wrong I still want his appearance on the boys to be short lived and end with a gruesome death
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Continue....
[A shot in the dark: same-sex sexual behaviour in a deep-sea squid]
Hoving et al., 2012
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