#voluntary subcultures that focus around decentralized abuse vectors do not deserve human rights

[betterbemeta]

Insinuating a trans person of any kind is anything like an incel is disgusting, I’m sorry.

1) you’re not sorry, that’s just something people say to make themselves sound more personable or to soften their statements. commit to what you say.

2) Did you know that ���online subcultures that could have trans people in them” and “trans people” are not the same thing? One of them is:

 a subculture that someone willingly participates in and chooses to enter, and chooses to extract social validation from

and another is 

a fundamental crux of a person’s identity and the basis upon which they differ from the social norm.

Like I know that like 85% of us are lost in the sauce on here but the concept of sorting yourself as “truscum” is not somehow an inherently essential thing to a person’s trans-ness. You can continue being trans, but also not belong to a funtime shithouse that’s committed to self-harm and harassing people they think are less respectable than themselves. No subculture is fucking bulletproof just because some trans people might belong to it. There are gay people who support medicalization of gay identity and conversion therapy. It’s not homophobic to call other medicalists out even if it might implicitly include a criticism of those gay people.

There are even cis truscum out there– which reveals that “truscum” as a label is inherently a label that sorts transphobes, not sorts gender identity.

Both “incel” and “truscum/online transmedicalists” are online communities. You can compare and contrast online communities, online phenomena, internet subcultures. As it so happens, they both shock and horrify themselves into a kind of perma-disgust with themselves and other people as a form of decentralized social control. They both target young people who feel like others don’t talk to them like adults with respect offline. They both suicide bait people within and people without their spaces. They are both right wing aligned in politics and goals. 

They have a lot in common. But you’d be laughed off the bus for insinuating that “incel” is synonymous with the identity-demographic that has a stake in it, because it’s not synonymous with that identity. It’s a fringe, voluntary subculture.

Transmedicalist and online “truscum” culture is the same way. It’s something that people voluntarily participate in that is not essential or fundamental of their identity, they choose to draw trans men with “yaoi boi” and “fujoshi” written on a pair of huge tits, they CHOOSE to spread caricatures indistinguishable from the alt-right caricaturing ALL trans people.

They can stop being truscum at any point in time, and it is the choices they make that make them like incels, because trans people don’t have some kind of brain force field that prevents them from being targeted in the same style as incels, and if the only reason why you think people criticize incels is because their numbers contain nobody of “a sensitive demographic” and that they are an “acceptable target with no collateral damage”, think again, because incels also can influence trans people. 

That’s why this style of decentralized self-deprecation online gang is dangerous and we should take them seriously beyond ‘oh lol the straight cis men are sad, let them die mad.’ I shouldn’t need to explain that anybody can be an egg and if you look at any subculture or demographic and don’t think there are trans people in there, either in the closet or fearfully on the margins, I don’t know how to address that.