#vexedviewer

[iamafanofcartoons]

Vexed Viewer just hit a new low. He made a video insulting Kiersi Burkhart (one of RWBY’s writers) for saying in a twitter AMA that Cinder experienced (clearly negative, as per her own admission of “for better or for worse”) growth and change as a character. In addition to making a mean-spirited gotcha towards her, he didn’t ask her for permission to share her twitter information in the video. You can get sued for that. I really hope someone tells her about this, and that she decides to press charges on that asshole, or at the very least report his twitter account and/or YouTube channel.

Do people STILL think Vexed Viewer is not a misogynist?

Over 50% of his channel is dedicated to insulting women.

His most popular videos and tweets are about hating fictional women.

And he's transphobic.

Then again? He IS a hardcore blacksun shipper and adam taurus lover, so it makes sense that misogynistic men and women love him.

In the meantime, use this.

It will allow you to block his channel, and give yourself peace of mind.

[psyga315]

>VexedViewer

>On r/WhitePeopleTwitter

You can't make this shit up even if you tried.

[itsclydebitches]

Its not just the fanbase that likes V9 though. Fatmanfalling, Tom Horan, VexedViewer, Mrcheese. All major rwby critics who have never been nice to RT have stated this is the best volume. Its a consensus thats very wide. Which is fascinating

I don't follow the Youtube scene so I haven't seen their interpretations myself, but I wonder if this trend stems from the fact that, technically speaking, Volume 9 has done a lot of what critics have been calling for.

Jaune is absent for the first half of the Volume

The group is disagreeing with each other

Ruby is the focus of a major plot-point

Blake/Yang are indisputably in a canonical relationship

Penny's death is at the emotional heart of the Volume

This is a character-focused season

The Cat's presumed connection to the Gods ties this "fluff" arc into the wider narrative

There are other examples too, with the point being that if you were to just condense the Volume into talking points, yeah, it would come out looking really good. I wonder how many fans - critics and non-critics alike - are swept up in the relief of finally getting a lot of what we've been asking for... not realizing or admitting that it's a monkey's paw situation were we're also getting a series of unintended consequences as a result of these wishes. Again, I haven't seen these vids myself, but at some point I'd love to know a) if critics are factoring in the comparison aspect when calling this the best Volume (that is, "best" by RWBY standards doesn't mean free of serious problems) and b) if everyone still holds this view post-finale and after a bit of time has passed. I mentioned several posts ago the allure of RWBY's spectacle and given that I find myself doing this on occasion with other shows, I wonder how many fans would change their tune after revisiting Volume 9 after a bit of downtime. When we're not swept away by the shock of old!Jaune and the horror of Ruby drinking the tea and the excitement of seeing characters like Pyrrha again... when the novelty of the Big Reveals has worn off, do these moments still resonate? Or does that then leave room for a, "Actually, that's not very well done" response?

It is fascinating either way. I personally think this is one of RWBY's worst Volumes, due to how it has spectacularly failed to follow up on the conflicts introduced in Volume 8, its mishandling of new conflicts (like Ascension), and the overall tone of the Volume where we have a gag-focused start swerving hard into incredibly dark themes all while taking place in a world that, frankly, has had no time to be fleshed out. The fact that Little underwent the same fate as Maria and Pietro last episode - here's a side character you and the group are supposed to care about, but they're forgotten by the story after a horrific event where it's unknown whether they lived or died - just says to me that RWBY is still suffering from all the same problems, but now with increasingly ~shocking~ events to help distract viewers from that.

[blakebow]

Check out vexedviewers video "if yellowjacket was planned". Rewatching blacksun moments back to back reveals just how idiotic the decision to sink the ship was.

i think i've seen that video but it's been a while. yeah, i fully agree.

throwing out a ship with a solid 6 years of development where it was painfully obvious it was the original intention of the creator was disrespectful and wrong,

[onesheeptwosheepandachicken]

its impossible to talk to you. You clearly have a victim complex. No bee shipper is ever bad and all other blake and yang ships shippers are. There is no gray area, all bee shippers are innocent poor little meow meows 🥺 no objective thinking here no mam!

There are plenty of good blacksun shippers. here is what they have in common.

1. They are NOT vic micnogna apologists

2. they don’t bash rwby or crwby

3. They don’t trash talk Bumbleby regularly

4. They don’t go off using derogatory imagery towards female characters or people who love rwby.

5. They don’t take pride in their hatred of RT

And last but not least? Good Blacksun shippers don’t act like they are victims just because two evil cis white men are dead, and two lesbians are in a relationship.

So!

Are there good Blacksun shippers in the fandom?

There are thousands of good ones. Just as there are thousands of good Bee shippers.

You just are NOT one of either.

[greenteaandtattoos]

I think it’s time we stop talking about RWBYtubers

At this point, it’s bringing more toxicity into the fandom than the so-called “toxic” RWBYtubers are. 

I don’t agree with a lot of Judgmental Critter’s opinions and criticisms, I feel that they are too negative for my particular tastes. 

Calxiyn has done some things I don’t agree with, including her response to rosegarden shippers getting excited when the V9 teaser dropped at RTX.

But what is being said to and about them is disgusting and often out of context, complete lies, or said in bad faith in an attempt to cause mass hatred in their direction. 

The opinions and actions that I don’t agree with don’t automatically mean that they are horrible people. And the assumption that they are just because you disagree on something is pretty fucking toxic.

We need to stop taking every negative post about them at face-value, especially from people who might find enjoyment in deliberately causing discourse. 

If you see something that suggests that they did something you morally cannot agree with, or that they said something you find a genuine problem with, then it’s my suggestion that you go directly to the source and find out for yourself if what you saw was true or not.

Calxiyn’s twitter is here: https://twitter.com/Calxiyn

Judgmental Critter’s twitter is here: https://twitter.com/JudgmentalThe

If you see something you don’t like, then don’t just post about it without getting the full story. Go to them, ask for clarification. I am almost certain you will get a reply in the comments. 

You cannot rely on second-hand information from Tumblr accounts that often enjoy sewing the seeds of discourse by using the so-called toxicity from RWBYtubers as their cover and excuse to be toxic themselves. 

Judgemental Critter may be more harsh with their opinions, but the defend their fellow RWBYtubers, and do not let people bash on other people with baseless and often inaccurate opinions. 

Calxiyn might associate with people you don’t agree with (VexedViewer, Judgmental Critter, twiins iink) because you personally have a problem with how they act, but they are rather fair with their criticisms and how they interact with people. 

GO TO THEM. ASK THEM QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING THEY DID, ASK SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THEM, OR BETTER YET, ASK THEM DIRECTLY!

I am guilty of this, I will admit. But I’ve talked to them, and while I don’t agree with some of the things they do, they’re really, truly not as bad as some people will make them out to be. 

And if you do all this, and still find a problem with them, BLOCK THEM. UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THEM. MUTE THEM. DON’T WATCH THEIR VIDEOS.

They don’t deserve to be lied about and slandered when they can’t defend themselves because others don’t like them and decide to use their dislike to cause more discourse. 

Just recently, Raijin Rising released a video commenting on the topic of toxicity in the fandom, and without even giving him a chance, people were ready to categorize him as a “hater”. What you didn’t know was that he was fair, he did not separate the fandom into positive toxicity and toxic haters, he addressed the fandom toxicity as a whole. 

That’s what the bloody word “fandom” means. It encompasses the people who watch the same show. 

But people have been so immersed in the “you vs us” mentality that they cannot imagine that a person who does not agree with them can still be a decent human being. 

You can’t judge someone based on their opinions on a fictional show. Do you know it’s called when you do? 

Toxic positivity.

In the end, we are contributing to the toxicity of the fandom just as much as they are, and if we want that to stop, we have to first learn to stop and think for ourselves. Don’t just take what someone says at face-value, certainly not a stranger on the internet. 

GO TO THEM SOURCE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. 

And a PSA:

The tumblr blog known as CanonSeeker cannot be trusted as a source for reliable information. They have often lied and taken things out of context in order to sew chaos and get people to stop following certain individuals. 

Just last night, they went into Calxiyn’s Discord server, pretending to be someone else, in order to justify their actions and turn people against Judgmental Critter. 

In all honesty, there is honestly no reason to get into a feud with these RWBYtubers, not Calxiyn, not Judgmental Critter, because if you just asked them for clarification or blocked them if you really didn’t like what they said, we wouldn’t have this problem. 

What’s been going on is toxic, and I’m tired of it. 

The necessity to ask for clarification and proof applies to everyone, including me. If you want proof of any of this, please come to me, Calxiyn, Judgmental Critter. There are screenshots and text messages that can be shown.

If you would like more people to corroborate, there are many individuals in Calxiyn’s Discord Server who can do so, and you will also be able to talk to her yourself and get the proof that way. 

Her Discord is here: https://discord.gg/2s5xjdqvH6

Think critically, people, and think for yourselves.

[kob131]

https://twitter.com/VexedViewer/status/1529556546396606468?t=NZHx7rsA73LyG3qNFVSP7g&s=19

Hm.

I do encourage you to actually watch the clip in question but to summarize.

"Cinder work for Salem for power but she slave! BAD WRITING!"

But wanna know what the clip is missing?

"Salem: And I’ve realized, it’s all my fault.

The pain stops, and Cinder looks up in fear as Salem walks over to stand in front of her.

Salem: You’ve fought your whole life unwaveringly for what you want and here I am holding you back instead of lifting you up.

Salem holds her hand out, and Cinder hesitantly rests her Grimm hand in it. The Hound goes to Neo and then Emerald, sniffing them.

Salem: You deserve so much more than I’ve given you. Go to Atlas, recover Watts. He can lead you to the girl"

Granted, his video as a whole covers it, saying that Cinder has to be stupid to believe Salem.

To that, I have two words-

Covington Catholic.

If anyone is stupid, it's Vexed for somehow not understanding what 'bias' is and how it affects your thinking.

Then again, that requires self reflection. And I'm certain it's toxic to him at this point.

[thatsjustrwde]

If CRWBY actually listened to reviewers like eruptionfang and vexedviewer their writing would actually improve. But they go the cheap lazy path of being chummy with the likes of murderofbirds. I've seen their work. It's cheerleading disguised as reviews. Making excuses even for awful writing🙄

exactly, they are just too sensitive to listen to the criticism, so they surround themselves with people who praise them for everything they do. that’s not a good way to write anything lmao.

criticism can hurt sometimes, i understand that. but when i reflect on all the times i received criticism and made changes to my work, i was always happier with the end result.

and again, critics didn’t start off bashing the show. all these stans have this weird collective mindset that critics just appeared out of nowhere and started bashing on the show. a lot of critics started off by being constructive, because they loved a show and they wanted their input to be heard. but then crwby pushed back, and insulted them.

[dragynkeep]

On one side you get bootlickers like calxiyn and murderofbirds, and on the other you have haters like herohei and adel aka. I get my reviews from vexedviewer and eruptionfang who are critical but not unfair. Checked out twiins ink and she's mild compared to the rest.

Funny how a lot of critics get their videos claimed by RT yet MoB never does. Wonder if it’s because he is friends with CRWBY and never has a bad thing to say. 

Receptive of criticism, my ass.

[expertmakodriver]

I really like the way that you analyze the writing and content of Mass Effect, are you a writer? Or did take writing classes or something? You've made me consider and rethink a lot of points about Mass Effect and I feel like you have a lot of really insightful and thought-provoking discussions about the M.E. games :)

I don’t know if I’d necessarily call myself a writer. Besides one very long Mass Effect fic that I’m working on with a mutual of mine - I’m mostly editing and she’s doing most of the writing, but sometimes I’ll write a few things or pitch ideas - and a sci-fi story that I’m kinda sorta brewing in my head, I don’t ever really write. I don’t consider it a hobby of mine because I don’t do it enough, but I HAVE learned how to write and assess plot from other writers - particularly critics. People who have a good amount of experience with writing and/or breaking down and analyzing media have the best advice to give.

I’ll give you an example. There’s a guy on YouTube named VexedViewer who discusses the writing of the show RWBY, which I used to watch back in the day before it turned into a huge mess. Up until a year or so ago, it was kind of hard for me to drop the show despite the writing being notoriously bad because I was invested in a few characters. I also kept watching for the fight scenes, which was why I even got into the show in the first place (Monty Oum’s level of talent in terms of animating was just insane). I came across VexedViewer’s channel when he first started making videos about the issues with RWBY’s writing, and I tend to agree with most of the things that he says. Even though I don’t watch RWBY anymore, I still follow his channel and watch his videos because I like the way that he discusses the writing. I learned a lot about how to write a story - or rather, what NOT to do when writing a story - from him. I don’t know if he himself is a writer, but regardless, he makes a lot of valid points about writing in general - points that aren’t restricted to just RWBY itself.

Also, I watch a lot of “Everything Wrong With” videos (like this video about ME3, made by GCN) and they often bring up issues with stories that may be overlooked by fans/writers. It helps me become more aware of problems in other stories.

So no, I’m not really a writer, but thanks for the comment anyway, anon. :)

[tumblezwei]

Not sure how many bones in his arm he broke reaching in this tweet, but apparently he sees the new preview clip RT put out as Yang and Blake "on a killing spree", which consists of them...swinging OVER traffic and fighting someone(unless he actually meant something else like RT tweeting out a spoiler in this preview clip, which makes even less sense with that wording): twitter(.)com/VexedViewer/status/1202005329497788416

I’ve decided to just assume he’s trolling because I refuse to believe anyone could be this brain dead without it being intentional. 

My favorite part though is all the comments losing their fucking minds over Blake and Yang being in a fight together. Like, sure, Blake and Yang could use some time with other partner combos, but good god they take the joke “well, they sure standing next to each other” and use it in the exact opposite way.

“How dare Blake and Yang be in a fight together when they are partners. Obviously RT is shipping them again, goddamn SJWs. What do you mean Ren and Nora only ever partner up and no one complains about it? What do you mean Ruby and Weiss partner up and no one complains about it? What do you mean Ruby and Yang were shown to be working together in the exact same montage last episode?”

[rwdestuffs]

"Done dirty: Adam". Had to read this again, and it just re-confirms what I thought about RT all along. And it's funny how VexedViewer pointed out that the company is primarily all-white, lacking any type of diversity - regardless of the work area. In order to properly write a racism plot and a character that's properly sympathetic in relation to that, you need diversity and differing opinion. RT doesn't have that. Their "racism" is black and white, and that affected Adam and Blake's writing.

Even if they aren’t actively or blatantly racist, they certainly don’t seem to have the desire to research the topic.

[saintoflostmonsters]

So I tried to give VexedViewer another shot because people keep saying he makes good points and Jesus fuck dude I've never heard a more boring avalanche of complaining. Everyone's free to have complaints and nothing is perfect but the way he talks without passion or any detectable joy for anything other than the sheer act of bitching itself is unbearable. He's a rwby forum monologue in video form and idk maybe he would be more tolerable if he stopped reading from a script and didn't sound like he's giving reports in a class he was forced to take like bro you CHOSE to be here

[onesheeptwosheepandachicken]

Vexed: "I don't like Weiss because the writing made her point a gun at a kid."

You, drooling from your perpetually open mouth: YOU HATE WOMEN YOU HATE WOMEN

nice project you freak.

ignoring the derogatory language of you RWDE/RWBYCritics?

Here we have Vexed photo editing Weiss in a disrespectful manner , as trashing her and female characters is something his channel does.

Next?

We have Vexed laughing at fatmanfalling being derogatory towards female trans characters.

Next

The woman’s face is that of a female video gamer who is very passionate about fighting games.

Vex uses a cut-out of her face to deride the RWBY fandom, as well as a meme on the left side to insult the fandom.

So....did you consider that I was looking at a bigger picture?

No of course not. You look at one thing and call me a “Freak” and use disrespectful language while defending a man who laughs at his friends’ transphobia.

who disrespects women real and fictional.

THAT was my problem with Vexed.

Though...you’re not paying attention to what I’m trying to tell you..are you?

[commanderkurama]

The 1:30 minute video by vexedviewer blows the 47 minute bumblebee one right out of the water and he doesn't even say anything!

Lol says so much with so little