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shannonsketches · 19 days ago
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Look at this framing. Goku proudly presenting the newest baby saiyan to the Royal family.
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2guysand1moredubs · 11 months ago
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Goku's here to play a game with the Z-Boys
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Dear Frieza-sama, allow me to take this current opportunity to inform you that your era is at an end. Your loving Vegeta.
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tobiasdrake · 2 months ago
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Digimon Adventure 01x46 - MetalEtemon's Counterattack / Etemon's Comeback Tour
Previously on Digimon Adventure: Yamato and Taichi punched each other so much that Homeostasis came down from Digimon Heaven to give all of the children study detention, even though six of them did nothing wrong! Except Hikari, who needed her rest and was allowed to sleep through it.
(Japanese episode titles for anime get a lot of shit for being full of spoilers. I like how the dub team apparently wanted to get in on that action this time around. SPOILERS, FUCKING BOTH OF YOU!!!)
Now the team has fractured. Yamato has gone one way, Mimi and Jou another, with what remains of the nakama following Taichi to war.
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We open on carnage already in progress. An explosion of dark energy in the woods calls our attention to Ogremon, being chased through the forest by waddling treelike Digimon. He stops running, turning to face them.
These are Woodmon. An Adult-stage Virus-type Plant Digimon from the Wind Guardians. Woodmon is what can, with sufficient effort, evolve into Jureimon and Garbamon.
Narrator: Woodmon. A plant Digimon. Usually disguised as an ordinary tree, it sustains itself by capturing passing Digimon and draining their energy.
They're vampiric ambush predators that impersonate ordinary flora to snare their prey. Hahaha that's fun....
Three Woodmon advance on Ogremon; He knocks two of them back with a left hook, then bashes the third with his club.
Ogremon: My great self is not some girlish maid!
This line is difficult to translate. He seems to be saying "Ore-sama onna meido nai yo!" The subs translate this as "Don't underestimate my power" probably to avoid the obvious sexism in the line, but he is most certainly being sexist.
Ore-sama is easy. The -sama honorific is a highly respectful honorific applied to a venerable elder or superior. Applying it to a first-person pronoun like ore is one of the most Cocky Little Shit things you can say in Japanese. This is a popular choice for anime braggarts like Dragon Ball's Vegeta.
"Meido" is a maid. A female housekeeper. But just to make sure you know he's negatively comparing femininity to himself, he also says onna, which straightforwardly means "woman".
Punch, thwack, boast: I-sama am not a maid woman!
I'm not 100% but I'm fairly certain that's what he's saying.
One thing's for sure: Ogremon shit-talking women to brag about his strength isn't making it into the dub.
Ogremon: (rundown) Get away from me, you pile of Woodmon! I know your tricks! You pretend to be trees and then absorb the energy from unsuspecting Digimon as they pass by! (punch, thwack, boast) Ogremon: This is your last warning!
Punching them in the face is not a warning, Ogremon, but at least you aren't randomly denigrating women. Your Japanese counterpart somehow manages to be a Manosphere bro despite only having aesthetic gender.
I mean, he comes from the internet so that's fair. He learned it from watching us.
Also want to shout out the "I know your tricks!" bit. They somehow managed to make the diegetic rundown work despite Ogremon having no one to explain Woodmon to except Woodmon. Props for that.
Despite his bluster, though, Ogremon knows he's cooked. He can't win this fight.
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Ogremon: (thinking) However, a swarm like this is too many for me to handle at once. I'll have to fend them off and keep running.
He throws his signature Haouken at the ones in front, knocking back three; The one in the center takes the hit so hard that chunks of wood break off of their face. Then he turns and starts running again, with the horde of Woodmon giving chase.
Dub Ogremon continues bragging.
Ogremon: How many Woodmon could an Ogremon chuck if an Ogremon could chuck Woodmon? PUMMEL WHACK!!! (Ogremon blasts them, then turns and runs) Ogremon: They sure run fast for tree stumps!
Bet you can't say that first line three times fast.
Cut to Mimi and Jou taking lunch in the woods. The Digimon are enjoying their food, but Mimi remains despondent.
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Gomamon: (bites an apple) Mm, tasty tasty! Mimi: (quietly) Um, Jou-senpai? Jou: What? Mimi: I'm sorry for imposing my selfishness on you. Jou: What do you mean, selfishness? I don't think you're being selfish at all! I agree with what you said, Mimi-kun. Conflict is only good for creating further conflict. It does nothing to actually solve anything. But....
Jou looks up at the sky, seeing the Earth hanging above. A reminder of the instability threatening both worlds. The image of his brother Shin appears reflected in his glasses.
Jou: No, never mind. Gomamon: Jou? Jou: What? Gomamon: You should share with us if you have something to say. Jou: That's not always true, Gomamon. Even if you have something to say, sometimes it's best that you don't say it! Gomamon: Yeah, that's true. I suppose you might be right. No, you've gotta be! Jou: (pleased) You think so too, Gomamon?
Jou agrees with Mimi on principle but he's clearly worried about how those principles apply to their present situation in practice. However, he bites his tongue on the matter, feeling that there is nothing he can say at this time that would help.
In the dub:
Gomamon: (bite) This... good.... Mimi: Joe, can I tell you something? Joe: What? Mimi: I hope I wasn't too selfish for saying I didn't want to fight anymore. Joe: I don't think you were selfish. In fact, I think you were pretty brave. What you said was true; Fighting just leads to more fighting and then nothing ever gets resolved. My brother Jim used to say the same thing after he'd get beat up! (Joe looks up at the sky, thinking about Jim) Mimi: Joe? What is it, Joe? Joe: It's nothing. Never mind. Gomamon: Joe? Joe: What? Gomamon: Don't keep things bottled up inside. It's not healthy. Joe: Don't tell me about not being healthy! I've been not healthy my whole life so I'm an expert, and if I want to keep things bottled up, I will! Gomamon: Whoa! It looks like somebody needs a time out in the corner. I was just trying to lend a friendly ear! Joe: I know you were, Gomamon. Sorry, bud.
Everything through Joe's agreement with Mimi is played straight, but then things start to drift. The moment with Jim's reflection is recontextualized to be Joe nostalgically remembering him.
The follow-up with Gomamon still indicates that Joe's biting his tongue about something, but it's made more vague by giving Joe an unrelated reason to be thinking about Jim. Though I think what they're going for is that thinking about Jim made him worry for the Earth, rather than him looking at the Earth and thinking about Jim.
We lose Jou expressing his philosophy of social propriety; How small lies and omissions can maintain peace in social situations. Instead, the more high-strung Joe comically snaps at Gomamon in defense of unhealthy habits. Both of these do make sense for their separate takes on the character while still maintaining the core point that Jou/Joe has something he wants to say but won't.
Suddenly, a shadow falls over them. Something appears in the sky overhead.
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Palmon: What is that!?
The darkness coalesces into a spherical object burning with the heat of atmospheric re-entry, plunging towards the Digital World.
Jou: That's a meteorite.... (Jou watches it fall) Jou: (alarmed) IT'S HEADING FOR US!!!
Meanwhile, the Woodmon horde chases Ogremon to the edge of a cliff.
Ogremon: This is bad.... I can't afford to die here! I can't die until I've defeated Leomon-- Huh!? (Ogremon spots the meteorite) Ogremon: W-WHAT IS THAT!?!?
The Woodmon scatter, but some are too late; The unpleasantly familiar looking ball of pipes and black scrap crashes down on top of the horde, killing many Woodmon and throwing Ogremon off the cliff from force of impact.
In the dub:
Palmon: What is that thing? Joe: It looks like a meteorite! (Joe watches it fall) Joe: LOOK OUT!!! IT'S COMING THIS WAY!!! (Meanwhile, on the cliff) Ogremon: I can't get rid of you guys! You're not trees, you're weeds! It can't all end like this; Not before I beat Leomon-- HUH!?!? (Ogremon spots the meteorite) Ogremon: What in the world!?
Faithful translation with a weed insult thrown at the Woodmon. The dub puts a commercial break here as we watch Ogremon plunge into the canyon. But then, so there's no confusion about what's happening in the next scene, it cuts together shots of Joe and Ogremon's reactions with the meteor landing again.
Joe: That thing is monstrous! Ogremon: It's heading right for us! (Meteor crashes and throws Ogremon into the chasm again)
Basically a Cliff's Notes version of the preceding scene.
Elsewhere in the woods, the meteor impact causes the ground to shake, which does not go unnoticed by Taichi's crew.
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Taichi, Koushiro, Hikari, and Sora all grab onto trees to ride out the earthquake. Koromon, Tailmon, and Piyomon are all left to fend for themselves, but Takeru curls around Patamon and shields him on the ground.
Sora: An explosion!? (The shaking subsides) Taichi: W-What happened!? Koushiro: Was it an earthquake?
Tentomon flies down from the sky, having apparently gone to scout it out.
Tentomon: A meteorite! And a huge meteorite at that! It came crashing down nearby! Taichi: A meteorite? Sora: Let's not talk about the meteorite. We should get back on-topic.
Sora is aggressively disinterested in whatever that was. XD The remaining child soldiers in our nakama have important shit to discuss. We have, here in these woods, a fucker to assassinate.
Takeru: Right. I think we should go to Pinocchimon's mansion. Patamon: We can lead the way. Koushiro: Rather than waiting for him, we should make the first move and challenge him to fight. Tailmon: I agree. Besides, we don't have time to waste. If we don't hurry, it will be too late for both our world and yours. Hikari: Onii-chan, let's go! Taichi: Hm....
Taichi was gung-ho about charging straight into the lion's den a couple episodes ago, but recent experiences have made him reconsider the nature of valor. He hesitates, thinking things over.
Sora: H-Hold on a second, everyone! Pinocchimon is at Ultimate level, remember? He won't be an easy opponent for us to win against. Takeru: But we have to fight him eventually, don't we? Patamon: That's right!
While Taichi remains silent, Sora is badly outnumbered.
In the dub:
Sora: WHAT'S HAPPENING!?!? (The earthquake subsides) Tai: Was that some sort of explosion!? Izzy: An earthquake? Tentomon: (returning) A METEOR!!! And I mean a whopper! It just crashed in the forest! Tai: TOTALLY COOL!!! Let's go check it out! Sora: I don't know, Tai. It could be dangerous. T.K.: Yeah! Let's head over to Puppetmon's mansion instead!
Yeah, that sounds way less dangerous than the meteor. Sora funnily nipping this conversation in the bud gets replaced by Tai getting eagerly sidetracked before Sora killjoys his idea. T.K.'s response is ironic but I'm not sure if it's meant to be a deliberate joke as the irony goes unremarked upon.
On a pedantic note, Tentomon reports this incorrectly. The original correctly labels it inseki for "meteorite" rather than ryuusei for "meteor".
A meteor burns up in atmosphere; A meteorite is the chunk of a meteor that survives entering atmosphere and makes it all the way down. That shaking was the meteorite impacting the ground.
Patamon: We'll show you guys exactly where it is. Izzy: I suppose it's inevitable. He's one of the Dark Masters and we'll have to fight him sooner or later. Gatomon: Yeah, it's time somebody cut his strings instead of waiting around here! Let's take the fight to him for a change. If we don't hurry up, I'm afraid that both of our worlds will be destroyed! Kari: Let's do it, Tai! Tai: Hm.... (Tai considers) Sora: Wait a second, you guys! Let's think this over. Puppetmon is a Mega Digimon and we won't be able to defeat him that easily! T.K.: (sarcastic) Oh, in that case, let's give up and go watch cartoons! Patamon: Let's fight!
This part is a near-perfect translation. The one thing that sticks out to me is T.K.'s much more snippy response to Sora, which fits the general tone of the dub kids being meaner than their Japanese counterparts.
Now that we're at an impasse, Koushiro presents an idea.
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Koushiro: Why don't we take a vote? Everyone who thinks we should go to Pinocchimon's mansion!
Koushiro, Hikari, and Takeru all raise their hands, while Sora and Taichi do not. Tentomon, Tailmon, Patamon, and Koromon all vote for going too; Koromon lacks hands, but his bunny ears go from folded down to straight up in the air, doing his best to make the voting gesture.
Though the vote clearly settles the matter numerically, Taichi's vote surprises everyone. He merely stands, arms folded, lost in thought.
Koushiro: (confused) Taichi-san? Sora: Taichi.... Taichi: (thinking) If Yamato were here, what would he do? What would he say? Takeru: Taichi-san? (Taichi opens his eyes and sees Takeru) Taichi: (thinking) If something were to happen to Takeru, how could I ever face Yamato? Hikari: Onii-chan? Tentomon: Are we going or not? Sora: (thinking) You won't go, Taichi? Taichi: Okay, I've got it! Let's scout the place out, then figure things out from there. Younger Kids: Yes! Takeru: This way, everyone!
Sora's hopes are dashed as Taichi does ultimately relent and go along with the group; Albeit not as gung-ho as he once was. Everyone leaves, following Takeru, except Sora who hesitates.
Taichi, realizing Sora's not with them, stops and turns back.
Taichi: Sora? Sora: There's no other choice. You've made your decision. Taichi: It's not what you think. If we walk into danger, Koromon and I will hold off the enemy. I want you to lead the rest to safety while we're distracting them. Sora: (surprised) Taichi! Taichi: I'm counting on you. Sora: Understood.
Now that he doesn't have Yamato to balance him out and has undergone tremendous character growth in the last couple episodes, Taichi is being uncharacteristically cautious. His plan is as he said. They'll go to Pinocchimon's mansion but they won't go in guns blazing; He wants to case the place and find out what the situation is before committing their forces to a battle they may not win.'
And he has a withdrawal plan already mapped out in his head. He's being careful about how he approaches this, in a way we've never seen from Taichi before.
In the dub:
Izzy: The only fair thing to do is to take a vote. All those in favor of going to Puppetmon's mansion, raise your hand and say 'aye'. (The kids and Digimon vote) Izzy: The 'ayes' have it! Sora: Tai, you didn't vote! Tai: (thinking) I wonder how Matt would vote? Knowing him, he'd probably go the safe route. T.K.: So Tai, what do you think? Tai: (thinking) And what about T.K.? With Matt not here, it's my job to make sure nothing happens to him. Hikari: What should we do, Tai? Tai: Well, uh.... Tentomon: We're waiting for an answer! Sora: (thinking) After all we've been through, he can't really be thinking about going.... Tai: Alright, we're going. Just to take a look around, but we don't necessarily have to start any trouble. Younger Kids: ALRIGHT!!! T.K.: It's this way, guys! (Everyone runs off except Sora) Tai: Sora? Sora: I'll go along with your decision but I'm still not sure it's safe. Tai: I know it's dangerous, Sora. And we're not looking for trouble. But if anything happens, Koromon and I will hold off Puppetmon while you take the others and escape. I won't let anything happen to you. Sora: You mean it? Tai: Of course I do! Sora: Okay, then.
I'd say this is about 95% correct. Sora's line "Tai, you didn't vote," is a little off. We held a single binary vote; Raise your arm to go, don't raise your arm to not go. By not raising his arm, Tai implicitly voted against going. You can't abstain when the options are Yes or Not Yes.
That last bit in Tai and Sora's exchange, where "I'm counting on you" is replaced by "I won't let anything happen to you," also bothers me.
The plan is the same in both versions. If things go south, Taichi and Koromon will offer themselves up to hold the line while Sora takes the rest of the team and retreats. But these lines alter the tone of how Tai presents it.
Taichi assuages her concerns by treating her as an equal and valuable contributor to this plan, while Tai assuages her concerns by promising to be her knight in shining armor - in the process implying that Sora was only concerned about her personal safety, as her worries relent as soon as he promises to protect her.
This, combined with the earlier "The meteor could be dangerous" altered dialogue makes Sora come off weaker and more cowardly than her original counterpart.
Though Taichi's group was disinterested in it, we turn our attention back to the crater as something begins to emerge. It can't be. It can't possibly....
WHO'S THE STRONGEST IN THE WOOOOOOOOOORLD!?
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KING OF DIGIMON!!!
This would be a fantastic twist if both titles didn't spoil the shit out of it.
The emergence of the new and improved Etemon goes without dialogue in the original. The dub, eager to hear their most famous vocal performance again, has him narrate to nobody in particular.
MetalEtemon: Ladies and gentlemen! Boys and girls! Get ready for the comeback tour of the year! Baby, I'm BACK!!! Uh-huh-huh, YEAH!!!
Jou and Mimi make for the cliffside, interested in the meteorite.
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Jou: Over there! The meteorite fell on top of that cliff! Mimi: But where did it come from? Palmon: Maybe from Earth? Jou: Eh!?
That's a good question, honestly. The conditions that would produce a meteorite aren't exactly applicable with the two worlds in dimensional flux above one another like this. Mimi points out a good reason to find this sudden meteorite suspicious as hell, though she doesn't take that to its logical conclusion.
Suddenly, Gomamon starts sniffing the ground.
Gomamon: Huh? Palmon: What's wrong? Gomamon: I smell something. Over there!
Gomamon and Palmon run into the woods, with a startled Jou and Mimi chasing after.
Jou: W-Wait! Mimi: That's dangerous! It might be a trap!
They come upon a large green figure unconscious on the ground, buried under broken tree branches. The group collectively gasps at the sight.
Gomamon: There's someone on the ground! Palmon: How did this happen!? (Palmon runs towards the figure) Palmon: Are you okay!? Hang in there!
Palmon sweeps the debris aside, revealing Ogremon badly hurt. His body is covered in scrapes and scuffs, and a trickle of blood is running down his forehead. Palmon jumps back when she realizes who she's uncovered.
Palmon: AH!!! It's Ogremon! He's not moving! He might be dead!
Obviously not because he would have turned to pixel dust, but as if on cue, Ogremon starts to move. He tries to get up, holding his shoulder in pain and causing everyone to shriek and step back from him. But he can't do more than that before he collapses back down.
In the dub, they're still calling it the wrong thing.
Joe: Look! There it is! The meteor landed up on that cliff! Mimi: I wonder where on Earth it could have come from? Palmon: Probably L.A.!
Joe makes no sound in response to Palmon's quip. He's still staring at her slack-jawed when we cut back to the wide shot of the group, but nothing draws your attention to it so it's easy to miss.
I think Palmon's quip is meant to be a joke about Elvis having homes in L.A. I disagree, though; That meteor clearly came from Memphis, Tennessee.
Gomamon: Huh? Palmon: What? Gomamon: I smell something... from over there! (The Digimon run off, as their human partners give chase) Joe: WAIT!!! Mimi: HEY!!! Not so fast; I might sweat! Palmon: And I keep tripping on my roots!
Mimi's concern is changed from fear for the Digimon's safety to disdain for physical exercise. Palmon's given a line to join Mimi in whining despite the fact that she and Gomamon are neck-and-neck, sprinting side by side with no evidence of any such tripping.
Palmon: I think someone's hurt. Gomamon: Hang in there, we're coming! Palmon: We've gotta get these branches off of him. (Palmon removes the debris from Ogremon) Palmon: Ogremon! Yikes! We'd better get out of here before he wakes up!
For more mismatched choreography to dub dialogue, they have Gomamon shout "We're coming!" before a scene where only Palmon rushes over to help.
Now, you may be wondering how the censors will approach removing the blood from Ogremon's face. I was wondering that too. And the answer is that they don't.
Yeah. Ogremon's clear, visible blood trail running down his face is allowed in. That made it past the censors. They do, however, cut the part of Palmon's line where she wonders if Ogremon's dead.
Though the sight of Ogremon in front of them is startling for everyone, Mimi only has one thing on her mind.
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Mimi: He looks hurt.... Gomamon: Hey, what should we do? Jou: We'll be in big trouble if he attacks us again like on File Island. It's best if we ignore him.
No sooner are those words out of Jou's mouth than Mimi shoves past Jou to get to Ogremon.
Jou: Ah! Mimi-kun! What are you doing!?
Mimi kneels down beside Ogremon with a cloth in hand, reaching out to wipe the blood from his face.
Mimi: That's a terrible wound....
Ogremon groans and stirs, forcing Mimi to stand back up and take a step back for safety. He rouses, opening his eyes and seeing Mimi there.
Ogremon: Y-You... Chosen Child! Mimi: Stop it! Don't move or you'll open your wounds!
She kneels back down, resuming her work.
Mimi: Palmon, find medicinal herbs! Gomamon, go find water! Digimon: Right! (exit) Mimi: Jou-senpai-- Jou: I got it. I can treat his wounds. I am the son of a doctor, after all. Ogremon: Y-You.... (tries to move, then collapses) Mimi: Stay still! Ogremon: ...yes, ma'am.
Also try not to make sexist comments while you're at it. Your continued existence is in Mimi's hands right now. I hope you're grateful.
In the dub:
Mimi: It looks like he's hurt.... Palmon: Good! Then he won't be able to chase us! Joe: Remember him from File Island? He was meaner than a cat giving a bath! Let's pretend like we never found him. (Mimi shoves past Joe) Joe: Hey! Mimi! What are you doing!?
The language is snippier, but fair given the circumstances. I like this interpretation.
(Mimi kneels down to tend to Ogremon's wounds) Mimi: This cut looks bad-- Ogremon: Grrrghh.... Mimi: Oh! (Mimi jerks back) Ogremon: ...you're the DigiDestined. Mimi: Well, I guess you don't have amnesia but try not to move anyway, okay? (Mimi kneels back down to wipe away the blood) Mimi: Palmon, go look for some healing herbs, and Gomamon, see if you can find some water. Digimon: Right! (exit) Mimi: Now, Joe, I want you to-- Joe: I know. My father's a doctor and he taught me a lot; I used to practice on my toys. Ogremon: TOYS!?!? (tries to move, then collapses) Mimi: I told you not to move! Ogremon: ...okay....
The toys bit got me. XD Not just Ogremon's hilarious reaction, but the mental image it conjures of Chibi Jou/Joe doing play-surgery on little plastic Gundams and Astro Boys is perfect characterization.
The dub handles this scene beautifully, covering every detail while putting it in their own voice. No notes.
Working together, Mimi and Jou render medical aid to Ogremon.
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Ogremon: Agh! THAT HURTS!!! Mimi: These herbs must sting a lot. Jou: Your arm might be broken, so I'm putting it in a sling.
Jou reaches into his duffel bag and pulls out a roll of toilet paper from his supplies.
Jou: Um... I guess this will work. Mimi: Why toilet paper? Jou: (wrapping the sling) I'm substituting it for bandages. Before we returned to this world, I thought I should bring stuff that would be useful to us. This was all I could think of, though. But when you use it like this....
Jou manages to make a functioning sling out of it.
Jou: There! That's a big help, isn't it? (pats Ogremon's arm) Ogremon: OW!!! Mimi: Ehehe! Jou-senpai is so smart! Ogremon: Why? Why are you helping me? I tried to kill you all on File Island. No one would be surprised if you decided to kill me right here and now. Mimi: Again? Killing this and killing that.... Don't you have any more tasteful words? Ogremon: More tasteful...? U-U-Um-I-- (stands up) Mimi: If you push yourself too hard, you might start crying. Well, take care of yourself.
Ogremon doesn't mince words here, using the vulgar term korosu which means, unambiguously, to kill. As a reminder, during the arc itself, the show favored the milder taosu verb for "defeating" them. Like Pinocchimon, he's using harsher language now that the show shied away from in earlier arcs.
Mimi's response here connects back to her emotional state she's been in since the graves. She is so done with all of this violence. Ogremon asks why they didn't kill him and Mimi's response is basically "OH MY GAWD Why does everything have to be about killing!?"
Her reaction is pretty similar to her "Fighting and fighting, and what do we get out of it!?" meltdown over Taichi and Yamato's pointless fistfight. Everyone around her seems to default to violence, and she's done with it.
It's a scolding that leaves Ogremon, a mon who prides himself on being the Vegeta to Leomon's Goku, at a loss for words.
In the dub:
Ogremon: Ow! That stuff hurts! Be careful! Mimi: Big baby! Don't you want to get better? Joe: It looks like his arm might be broken. We're going to have to put it in a sling. (Joe rifles through his duffle) Joe: Oooh, toilet paper! Mimi: Do you have to do that now? Joe: Really, Mimi? I'm using it as bandages! Before we came back to the Digital World, I thought of things we might need and toilet paper was the first thing that came to my mind! (Joe wraps Ogremon's arm) Joe: There! Just about finished here. Well? Ogremon: Feels soft! It must be two-ply. Joe: Lay off the Digivolving for a few days and you'll be as good as new! (pats Ogremon's arm) Ogremon: OW!!! Mimi: Joe, I never knew you were so resourceful!
This bit goes strong. It's faithfully translated, but they make room for a silly gag where Mimi, quite reasonably, misunderstands the purpose of the toilet paper.
"Lay off the Digivolving for a few days" is an odd instruction to give a non-Partnered Digimon, however. Ogremon evolving into an Andromon would be a great benefit. Though, let's be real, he's probably lost too many fights with Leomon to ever be eligible for Ultimate Digivolution.
Ogremon: Why are you DigiDestined being so nice to me? Especially after the way I tried to destroy you on File Island? You could have left me here to rot but instead you saved me; Why? Mimi: Well, we were taught that if someone's in trouble, you always help them out. That means, even if they were trying to pummel you into oblivion. Ogremon: Gee, I never thought of it that way. Mimi: Don't mention it. Besides, that's what friends do; They help each other out. Joe: Bye!
Here, the dub falters. They shy away from Mimi's scolding over Ogremon's violent language. This costs both Mimi and Ogremon a great moment for their individual characterizations; Instead we get drama-free generic moral thoughtfulness.
All we get from this is that Mimi is a kind person who was raised well, and Ogremon doesn't understand kindness.
As Mimi and Jou turn to walk away, Ogremon continues tripping over his words until he finally finds something tasteful enough to say to Mimi.
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Ogremon: W-WAIT!!! Th... Th... Thank you!
Mimi's face brightens considerably when she hears those words. She turns back around.
Mimi: You're welcome.
Ogremon's eyes fill with tears.
Gomamon: Ogremon is crying! Jou: These must be tears from a demon's eyes! Ogremon: (wipes his eyes) I just have dirt in my eyes!
Jou here references a Japanese expression: 鬼の目にも涙 Oni no me ni mo namida, or "Tears from a demon's eyes". It means that even the hardest and cruelest hearts can be brought to tears.
This sub translates it as "crocodile tears" which is a terrible translation; Crocodile tears means he's faking it, only pretending to cry in order to elicit undeserved sympathy. Wildly different meaning, and an accusation that utterly shatters the tone of this scene. That's a rolled-up newspaper thwack.
The dub builds on the "what friends do" bit for their version of this scene.
Ogremon: Wait, don't leave now! I... never had any friends.... Mimi: Ah! Well, you have them now. (Ogremon cries) Gomamon: I've never seen Ogremon cry before! Joe: Don't tell me you need more toilet paper to blow your nose. Ogremon: (wipes his eyes) It's alright; I'll just use my sleeve.
Suddenly, an ominous voice calls down from the trees.
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Pinocchimon sings the same haunting tune he sang when he was creeping up on Takeru earlier.
Pinocchimon: (singsong) Let's pla~ay! Let's pla~ay! Let's pla~ay Riddles! Jou: PINOCCHIMON!!! Gomamon: What do you mean, "Riddles"? Pinocchimon: What is the thing that I'm missing? Gomamon: What are you missing? Pinocchimon: Hurry up and tell me!
Pinocchimon's had time to consider what Jureimon was trying to tell him, before he lost his temper and killed him. But the only person who knows what Jureimon meant is now dead.
When Gomamon can't answer in time, Pinocchimon lets off a volley from his Bullet Hammer. Gomamon scrambles out of the bullets' path.
Pinocchimon: If you can't answer my riddle, I'll kill you. Palmon: Mimi, I have to evolve! Mimi: But....
Visions of Togemon being brutally killed by Pinocchimon's Bullet Hammer run through Mimi's head.
(Probably accurate. Pinocchimon is above even Lilimon's weight class.)
Mimi: (thinking) I can't... If Togemon were killed....
Mimi is paralyzed by her trauma.
In the dub, Puppetmon doesn't sing his haunting song; He simply calls down from the tree about Ogremon wiping his eyes.
Puppetmon: That's gotta hurt with all those spikes! Mimi: Huh!? Puppetmon: Here's a riddle: What has four strings and is made of wood? Mimi & Joe: PUPPETMON!?!? Puppetmon: No! A violin! But that's a good guess; I guess you guys aren't music-lovers. Gomamon: No, it's YOU we don't like! Puppetmon: Yeah? Do you like this? (Puppetmon sprays Bullet Hammer projectiles at Gomamon) Puppetmon: I can also play a really mean saxophone. Palmon: I've gotta Digivolve! Mimi: But... (Mimi pictures Togemon dying) Mimi: (thinking) Oh no... What if Togemon gets hurt during the fight...?
The decision made two episodes ago to swap out "Those children have something that you lack" for "Those children might be stronger than you" means the foundation for this scene hasn't been laid in the dub. Instead, this scene gets played as a straightforward Combat Encounter. Puppetmon shows up, is menacing, and then starts shooting.
Though Mimi is paralyzed by her fear for Palmon's safety, Jou has no such reservation.
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Jou: Gomamon, evolve! Gomamon: On it!
In the dub:
Joe: Gomamon, Digivolve! Gomamon: Right!
Ikakkumon makes one overly optimistic attempt to fire on Pinocchimon, launching a Harpoon Vulcan at the tree branch he's standing on. It destroys the branch, but Pinocchimon hops over the blast with no difficulty whatsoever because of course he does.
The blast destroys the tree. Pinocchimon lands on the stump, giggling at Jou. Time to kick things up a notch with Super-Evolution!
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It does not go well. Pinocchimon and Zudomon clap their Bullet Hammer and Hammer Spark together in a contest of pure, raw strength. A contest that Zudomon loses, sending the Thor Hammer flying from his hand.
Flames erupt from the force of Pinocchimon's Bullet Hammer, engulfing Zudomon and one-shotting him. He falls on his back, then degenerates into an unconscious Gomamon.
All of this action passes by without a single added line of dialogue by the dug.
With Gomamon defeated, Pinocchimon raises his Bullet Hammer menacingly.
Pinocchimon: I'm not hearing an answer! Guess I'll have to kill ya-- Out of Nowhere: (Tarzan roar)
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In an ironic twist, it's now an ominous menacing voice in the distance haunting Pinocchimon.
Swinging from a vine, MetalEtemon arrives on the swinging, leaping to a tree branch and flexing his muscles for the crowd.
Pinocchimon: Who are you!? MetalEtemon: Don't you know a superstar when you see one? (MetalEtemon starts clapping feverishly) MetalEtemon: Now, applaud! Applaud! (He stops suddenly, getting serious) MetalEtemon: Long time no see, Chosen Children. Jou: YOU'RE ETEMON!!!
Maybe Dub Sora was right; That meteor(ite) was pretty dangerous after all. Following this revelation, the original takes its commercial break.
In the dub, as before, this remains an ordinary combat encounter with no greater meaning for Puppetmon's character journey.
Puppetmon: Don't tell me playtime's over! Out of Nowhere: (Tarzan yell) (Puppetmon looks around for the swinging MetalEtemon) Puppetmon: Alright already! (MetalEtemon lands) MetalEtemon: Get Digi with it; MetalEtemon's in da house!
The dub puts its commercial break here, at MetalEtemon's reveal and tone-setting Will Smith reference. The King of Digimon is back, in more ways than one, and appropriately enough he is stealing from black artists.
Then we pick up right where we left off after the commercials.
Pinocchimon: Who's that guy!? (MetalEtemon starts clapping feverishly) MetalEtemon: A superstar like me deserves a little applause, bay-beh! (He stops suddenly, getting serious) MetalEtemon: After all, it's been so long since we've seen each other! Joe: Oh no, it's Etemon!
As we return from the original's commercial break, the new and improved Etemon makes his official debut.
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MetalEtemon: Etemon is old news. I've been reborn as the new and improved MetalEtemon!
MetalEtemon is an Ultimate-stage Virus-type Cyborg Digimon. Despite clearly being meant to be evolved from Etemon, he debuted as a Nature Spirit - the first V-Pet to allow Ultimate evolutions, and one that did not include standard Etemon in its roster. Instead, he was an evolution for Okuwamon, the Perfect form of Kuwagamon, and TonosamaGekomon. Weird.
But subsequent appearances in video games and the like have shored him up as Etemon's Ultimate evolution.
Fun note: The kanji on his chest are 最強. The 最 kanji is sai, meaning the highest, most supreme, most ultimate of whatever the other word is. This is being used to modify 強 kyou, which means strength.
Yes, as part of his Ultimate evolution, Mr. Konoyo de Saikyou/Strongest in the Living World fucking got the word Saikyou tattooed on his chest. He certainly does not lack for confidence.
(He also swapped out his Monzaemon doll for a WaruMonzaemon doll, which is the same level as Monzaemon but from a different evolution tree.)
Narrator: MetalEtemon. The Ultimate-stage Digimon that evolves from the Perfect-stage Etemon. His special attack is Banana Slip!
The rundown tells us absolutely nothing interesting about MetalEtemon whatsoever. 0/10 on the rundown scale.
In the dub:
MetalEtemon: I used to be Etemon, kid, but that was a long time ago! Now, I'm MetalEtemon! Thank you; Thank you very much! Gomamon: We thought Etemon was tough! MetalEtemon's a Mega Digimon! After his Banana Slip attack, you'll have to peel us off the floor!
The dub's rundown is as useless as the original's. I award them both no points.
The Digimon, of course, have so many questions about this turn of events.
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Palmon: I thought you died! How did you come back!? MetalEtemon: I'm glad you asked!
Conjuring a presumably metaphorical Etemon band to back him up, MetalEtemon starts singing his tale.
MetalEtemon: (singing) It's a tale that makes both its listeners and storyteller weep with emotion~! MetalEtemon: After my battle with MetalGreymon, you all know I was pulled into a Black Hole, yes? Within the Hell of that dark world, my body was destroyed and regenerated over and over again. But I refused to die, and I survived! Do you know why? Because the only thing on my mind was getting revenge against the Chosen Children for making me suffer like this!
The singularity that sent Taichi and Agumon home was apparently a horrific experience for MetalEtemon. He calls it Jigoku no ankoku sekai, using "Hell" as a modifier for "the dark world". He didn't literally go to Hell but is equating the dark world inside the singularity to being like Hell.
MetalEtemon: Then I was reborn into MetalEtemon! Today, I have returned to this world! MetalEtemon: (singing) All so I can get my revenge on you~! Understand? It's the Pent-up Resentment and Revenge BLUUUUUES!!!
In the dub, nobody asks about MetalEtemon's survival; He volunteers this story of his own volition. That's fair; I'm sure he's been chomping at the bit to tell it and would have explained himself either way.
Palmon: Just what we need; New and unimproved! MetalEtemon: Well, let me tell you how I became 'me'! MetalEtemon: (singing) So here's what transpired / When Etemon expired / Listen up, bay-beh! MetalEtemon: I'm sure you all remember the battle I had with MetalGreymon! I tell ya, he's one tough dinosaur, honey! After that, I was swallowed up by a black hole; I think I gave it indigestion! My digital information was scattered throughout the universe! I pulled myself together and chilled out for a while in Digimon Limbo. My information was chopped, mixed, whipped, and pureed! I felt like a four-speed blender, honey! But I refused to return to the Digital World until I was bigger, badder, and had a full head of beautiful metal hair!
MetalEtemon's origin is wildly different in the dub. The black hole scattered his data around the universe, which... is the opposite of what a black hole does, but okay. Then he reassembled himself by sheer force of will and, on purpose, entered Digimon Limbo. Which. Is apparently a thing that exists; He drops that with zero explanation.
Digimon Limbo is a nightmare place that ripped him apart bit by bit, but he went in there voluntarily as a sort of extreme shonen training to turn himself into MetalEtemon. Now his super-training is complete, and he's popped out to get his vengeance.
So, basically, Japanese MetalEtemon is Jason Voorhees clawing back from the edge of death for another go, while American MetalEtemon is Golden Frieza. That's. Kind of amazing.
Also, "Here's what transpired / When Etemon expired" is beautiful lyricism.
MetalEtemon: Now I'm back to get my revenge on YOU, DigiDestined! MetalEtemon: (singing) I got the low-down, dirty, revengeful / YOWWW / I'm talking... / Big-time DigiDestined bluuuuuuues!
One way or another, Etemon is going to be like Vamdemon; This isn't over until we see the dust of his pixels.
...
._. Mimi-chan, I apologize for my tasteless words.
As MetalEtemon concludes his lyrical recap, we come back to see that the children have plugged their ears and listened to none of his backstory crooning.
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Pinocchimon: (relieved) It's over.... MetalEtemon: There's more where that came from, little boy. Pinocchimon: DID YOU SAY 'LITTLE BOY'!?!? MetalEtemon: BANANA SLIP!!!
A furious Pinocchimon charges MetalEtemon, walking right into his trap. MetalEtemon hits him with Banana Slip. It's. Um. It's literally throwing a banana peel under his foot so that he slips and falls on his ass.
MetalEtemon: What's wrong, little boy? Pinocchimon: STOP SAYING 'LITTLE BOY'!!!
Sitting up, Pinocchimon swipes with his Bullet Hammer, striking MetalEtemon in his metal shin and leaving a surprisingly painful-looking red bruise. MetalEtemon yelps in pain, grabbing his leg and hopping on one foot.
The dub plays this as Puppetmon interrupting the concert. Consequently, he's the aggressor here rather than MetalEtemon being the one antagonizing him.
Puppetmon: Enough! MetalEtemon: I just got started, you oversized footstool! Puppetmon: WHO YOU CALLIN' OVERSIZED!?!? MetalEtemon: Watch your step! BANANA SLIP!!! (Puppetmon charges in and trips on the banana peel) MetalEtemon: Too much of a waxy build-up? Uh-huh-huh! Puppetmon: (sits up) PUPPET PUMMEL!!! (swipe)
The dub cuts the shot of Puppetmon's hammer impacting MetalEtemon's shin. We get a white flash and cut straight to him bouncing on one leg, nursing the wound.
Once again, we lose characterization details on Pinocchimon here. In the original, MetalEtemon goads him into a fight by infantilizing him. Pinocchimon falls for his provocations hook, line, and sinker because he's sensitive about his genuine childishness.
For Puppetmon, this remains a standard combat encounter with no particular character nuances. What we get instead are jokes, which fit in well to a combat encounter involving slipping on a banana peel. This is already a comical fight, so the quips fit in nicely with the tone.
Puppetmon does the classic "Objecting to the wrong part of your insult" bit, which I admit got me. XD
Not sure what the "waxy build-up" crack is supposed to mean, however.
Still, I do prefer the original because I'll always take character nuance over quipping.
And on that note, this goofball fight continues.
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MetalEtemon: HOW DARE YOU!?
MetalEtemon bounces on one foot, nursing his injured leg, then suddenly lunges for Pinocchimon. Pinocchimon sidesteps the lunge; Then, while MetalEtemon's on the ground, Pinocchimon calls Drill Nose.
Pinocchimon's nose spins like a drill and he stabs it into MetalEtemon's ass cheek. This proves to be a mistake, as it sets him up for MetalEtemon's counter-move Hekoki Attack. Which. Um.
Hekoki means "fart". MetalEtemon farts in Pinocchimon's face. Brief cut to Mimi, Jou, and Ogremon all plugging their noses to avoid being caught in the crossfire.
What a dignified clash of Ultimate powers, the most ultra-rare and supreme Digimon in all existence, we have had here today. It goes to show that no matter how high the Power Levels may become, there's a limit to how serious a fistfight between a small child and a bag of poop wearing sunglasses can be.
Pinocchimon recovers, unloading his Bullet Hammer's rapid-fire bullets. MetalEtemon blocks them all with his hand, then calls a left hook to the face as Number One Punch.
Pinocchimon: (pained) You've done it now! MetalEtemon: Children should behave like children.
That remark provokes a point-blank Bullet Hammer, as Pinocchimon slams his hammer into the ground and showers MetalEtemon in gunspray. MetalEtemon pulls back and blocks when he sees Pinocchimon telegraph the swing.
While this is going on, Jou snaps into Senpai mode. He grabs Mimi and starts pushing her away from the fight.
Mimi: NYAAAGH!!! Jou: Run while they're distracted! Ogremon: Good idea!
The children and their new pal quickly exit the fight. Meanwhile, Pinocchimon makes funny faces to bait MetalEtemon into punching a tree, which breaks and falls on him. He's crushed under the tree with a comical yelp.
(The best hit Pinocchimon scored all fight was by tricking MetalEtemon into hitting himself.)
In the dub:
MetalEtemon: Ow! I'll use you as a toothpick!
The dub cuts the Drill Nose/Hekoki Attack exchange. We go straight from Puppetmon dodging MetalEtemon's tackle to MetalEtemon firing a spray of bullets from his Bullet Hammer, which MetalEtemon blocks with his palm.
They keep Number One Punch, even showing the moment his fist slams into Pinocchimon's face. Surprising, given that they cut the impact from Pinocchimon hitting MetalEtemon's shin earlier. However, they rename it Metal Punch.
Puppetmon: Ow! You fight dirty! MetalEtemon: I'm not dirty; I just got detailed at the car wash yesterday! (Puppetmon blasts MetalEtemon; Joe starts pushing Mimi) Mimi: AUGH!!! Joe: Now's our chance to escape!
Ogremon has no line in this version; He silently follows the escaping kids.
Again, they took out the part where MetalEtemon goads and provokes Pinocchimon by infantilizing him and replaced it with a genuinely funny quip.
While all this is going on, Taichi's team have reached Pinocchimon's mansion. Taichi scouts the front with his mini telescope.
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Taichi: So that's Pinocchimon's mansion. He has two guards.
Though Taichi can't see the two guards in any detail, he - in a clever moment of Understanding The Rules - recognizes that this is good enough to register them in his Pokedex. He snatches his Digivice out of his pocket and passes it off to Koushiro.
Taichi: Look them up. Koushiro: Okay.
The two guards are the pair of Digimon that watched Takeru escape the mansion a couple episodes ago: Floramon and Delumon.
Floramon is a Child-stage Data-type Plant Digimon from the Wind Guardians lineup. They're what evolves into Woodmon and Kiwimon.
Delumon is a Perfect-stage Data-type Bird Digimon, also from Wind Guardians. Their name is derived from the english word "Deluxe" due to their fancy appearance as a distinguished bird. However, due to common anime translation confusion relating to the letters 'l' and 'r', this gets mistranslated in the dub as "Deramon".
Delumon can evolve from any Wind Guardian adult but most fits as the evolved form of Kiwimon.
Narrator: Floramon. A plant-type Digimon that evolved in a reptilian shape. Their special attack is Allergy Shower. Koushiro: The other one is.... Narrator: Delumon. At first glance, they may look like a bird, but they're actually a strange Digimon with vegetation growing out of their back. Their special attack is Royal Nuts!
I'm going to need us all to try and be as mature as we possibly can about Delumon's Royal Nuts.
(Hahaha XD I told y'all they fit best as Kiwimon's evo.)
That one unsettles Taichi.
Taichi: That one's Perfect-stage? Koushiro: (returns Taichi's Digivice) Yes. Tentomon: They shouldn't be a problem, though. Let's go in, everyone!
Tentomon flies over to where Hikari, Takeru, and the Digimon are waiting, but Taichi calls after them before they can set out.
Taichi: Hang on! There might be more of them inside. I'm going to go in and scout ahead; The rest of you hang back here. Takeru: Then I should come with you. Patamon and I are the only ones who know the layout. Patamon: Mhm! Taichi: (reluctant) That might help.... Takeru: Are you going to treat me like a little kid? Taichi: No.... Hikari: Let's go together, Onii-chan. Koushiro: I agree with Hikari-san! It won't be scary if we all go together! Koromon: What do you say, Taichi? Taichi: Very well. Let's go, everyone!
Taichi still trying to figure out how to be responsible for these younger kids without Yamato or Jou here, without giving into the bad kind of courage. But they twist his arm and get him to go along with the majority vote.
In the dub:
Tai: So that's Puppetmon's mansion, huh? There are two guards! (Tai hands over his Digivice) Tai: See who they are. Izzy: Analyzing. Izzy: (rundown) One of them is Floramon. She's a Plant type Digimon who Digivolves like a reptile. Her attack is Rain of Pollen. Izzy: And the other guard is.... Izzy: (rundown) Deramon. At first glance, it looks like Bird-type Digimon but it's actually got a plant growing out of its back! Prodigious!
Izzy does his best to translate the rundowns faithfully but makes one easy mistake: He says that Floramon Digivolves like a reptile, future tense, implying that her future evolutions are going to be reptilian in nature.
There's only one reptilian evolution line in the Wind Guardians and it is, ironically, one of only two Floramon can't evolve into. Plants and birds make up most of this evolution tree.
She evolved like a reptile, past tense. Floramon is a lizard made of plant matter.
Tai: So they're not Ultimate Digimon, right? Izzy: Right. Tentomon: Nonetheless, we should be careful! They could be quite dangerous! Shall we go?
Izzy then concludes the rundown by reminding us of how constantly wrong he is. Tai asks for confirmation that they are not "Ultimate", which in the dub is Perfect, and Izzy lies to his face about it. Deramon is, in fact, an Ultimate Digimon.
Tentomon promptly flips the script from being gung-ho about fighting despite the enemy having a Perfect to being cautious and nervous about fighting despite the enemy allegedly having nothing of such high level.
Once Izzy's done being pseudointellectually wrong about facts he is actively looking up as he says them, this next part is basically perfect.
Tai: Wait! There might be more guards inside! I'll go inside and make sure the coast is clear; You guys wait here until I get back. T.K.: Tai, I think Patamon and I should go with you. After all, we're the only ones who know where everything is inside there. Patamon: Right! Tai: Sorry, it might be dangerous... T.K.: Come on, Tai! Don't treat me like a little kid! Tai: That's not it. Kari: What if we go together? As a team? Izzy: I vote with Kari! There's nothing to be afraid of if we all go together! Koromon: What do we do, Tai? You decide? Tai: Alright, everyone! We're going! Follow me!
Cutting back to the Ultimate Clash of Ultimate Powers, we find MetalEtemon slapping himself in the face over and over.
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MetalEtemon: (smack) What! (smack) Is this! (smack) Ouch! OW OW OW OW OWWWWW!!!
Zooming out, we see MetalEtemon wriggling on strings, puppeteered by Pinocchimon above him.
Pinocchimon: Ahahahaha! Again! MetalEtemon: Augh! Stop it!
Pinocchimon uses the strings to flop MetalEtemon over onto his back, and then forces him to tickle himself.
MetalEtemon: That tickles! Ahahahaha AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Pinocchimon: Now to deal with the children--HUH!?!? THEY'RE GONE!!!
Huge success for Jou's plan of, uh, turning around and walking away.
I've noticed this before but it's especially noticeable here: The dub, as usual, makes dissimilar sound effect choices to the original. In the original, every time MetalEtemon hits himself, such as his earlier clapping or slapping his own face here, the impacts make a metallic clanging sound. This reinforces that he's, y'know, coated in metal from head to toe.
The dub opts for ordinary flesh slapping sounds, which makes it sound like he's just painted silver rather than made of metal.
MetalEtemon: (slap) Ow! (slap) Ow! (slap) OW! Hey! Cut it out! Puppetmon: Nahahaha! AHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Puppetmon makes MetalEtemon tickle himself) MetalEtemon: Hey, quit it! I hate tickling! Come on! Puppetmon: Now I can finally take care of those kids! HMM!?!? THEY'RE GONE!!!
Faithful translation.
While Pinocchimon's distracted, MetalEtemon rips himself free of the marionette strings. Once he hears Pinocchimon's words, however, he whips around in fury.
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MetalEtemon: NGGGH!!! WHAT WAS THAT!?!? Pinocchimon: This is your fault! MetalEtemon: No, it's yours!
This is MetalEtemon's fault. Pinocchimon had dibs on the basis of First Come First Served and was about to start killing when MetalEtemon interrupted.
Jury finds in favor of the sad little puppet boy and orders Titanium Elvis to surrender two children in compensation plus another half of a child in emotional damages.
MetalEtemon lunges furiously for the tree branch Pinocchimon's standing on. Pinocchimon hops over his lunge, then kicks him in the back and uses him as a springboard to get moving into the forest. MetalEtemon slams facefirst into the tree while Pinocchimon heads off into the woods.
Pinocchimon: I quit! MetalEtemon: (grumbling) What's with you? Pinocchimon: Got bored. Going home. MetalEtemon: Crude little brat. But at least he's not around to get in my way anymore. Just you wait, Chosen Children! You'll regret making light of me!
In an ironic twist, Pinocchimon is the one who shows maturity and realizes how pointless this is. And MetalEtemon didn't even need a higher being to come make him do backstory homework before agreeing to let him go! Such maturity.
In the dub, MetalEtemon is the one who starts the blame game.
MetalEtemon: It's your fault, you piece of rotted driftwood! Puppetmon: You recycled tin can! MetalEtemon: Big, dumb knothole! (MetalEtemon lunges; Puppetmon kicks off his back and starts to walk away) MetalEtemon: Hey! Where ya goin'!? Puppetmon: Home! You're lousy at name-calling! MetalEtemon: Oh yeah!? Well, I'm metal and you're wood! Whatever you say bounces off me and splits you in half! ...Who needs him anyway? I can find those DigiDestined myself; After all, I am the ultimate metal detector.
Lots of material composition jokes in this exchange. The "I'm metal and you're wood" bit got me. XD
The dub version seems to be implying that MetalEtemon had been trying to team up with Puppetmon this whole time? Weird way to go about it.
Back at the mansion, Koromon evolves to Agumon and the children ambush Pinocchimon's guards.
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Suddenly rushing them without warning, Tentomon nails Floramon with his Petit Thunder while Agumon lobs a Baby Flame at Delumon.
(Weird choice to come at them at Child stage after Koushiro specifically analyzed and confirmed that Delumon is Perfect. Weirder is that Delumon looks more ruffled by their attacks than Floramon does.)
Delumon: What do you think you are doing!?!? Agumon: Isn't that obvious!? You're with Pinocchimon, aren't you!? Delumon: ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Floramon: It's not like that at all. Takeru: Then what is it like? Delumon: Well... He sees us as playmates de aru, but we don't feel the same de aru.
Delumon ends his sentences with "de aru" instead of the standard "desu"; This signifies that he's speaking in a posh and formal manner, as is to be expected from the Deluxe Monster. It's not something I would normally write out in the transcript, but it forms the basis of an upcoming gag.
Delumon leans in conspiratorially.
Delumon: Don't tell him I said this de aru but the truth is that WE DESPISE PINOCCHIMON DE ARU!!! Takeru: That's right! I just remembered de aru. Pinocchimon doesn't have any friends de aru. Patamon: Yeah yeah! Hikari: Really? That makes Pinocchimon a really sad person de aru. Tailmon: ...you don't have to copy him. Hikari: Ehehehe!
Inspired by Delumon, Takeru and Hikari decide that seems like fun and start playing around with de aru as their "to be" verb too. This is how language evolves, especially in the minds of impressionable children.
Oh fuck me, we rolled up and started shooting at Pinocchimon's victims. Holy shit, I am glad we got this sorted out before somebody died; We're kind of in Shoot to Kill mode at this point so that was a real possibility!
A valuable lesson has been learned today about wildly spraying bullets into a populated location where one identified bad guy can be found. I'm sure this has no real-world application whatsoever. Nope nope.
The de aru bit won't translate to English, so obviously the dub has to drop that.
(Tentomon and Agumon jump Floramon and Deramon) Deramon: If you wanted fried chicken, you could have asked! Agumon: Sorry, we thought you guys were out here protecting Puppetmon's mansion. Deramon: Oh, so you barbecue me!? Floramon: We're not here protecting anything! T.K.: Then what are you guys doing? Deramon: Well, we're supposed to be Puppetmon's playmates. You know, someone to chase around and attack when he gets bored. (Deramon leans in conspiratorially) Deramon: But let me fill you in on a little secret: Puppetmon is an obnoxious jerk and none of us around this place can stand him! T.K.: Oh, yeah. Now I remember. Puppetmon doesn't have any friends even though he thinks he does. Patamon: Yeah, that's right! Kari: Wow, what could be worse than having a life without a single friend? Gatomon: A litter box lined with fly paper? Kari: AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Despite having to lose the de aru, this is a solid adaptation. In particular, Deramon's line "Oh, so you barbecue me!?" is perfect. You can feel his outrage at getting shot for being in the vicinity of a bad guy.
Taichi, his eye on the ball, questions Delumon.
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Taichi: Well? Is Pinocchimon inside? Delumon: No de aru. He's out de aru. Agumon: What should we do, Taichi? Taichi: We should sneak into Pinocchimon's mansion. Takeru: Delumon, take us in de aru. Delumon: Will do de aru. Follow me de aru.
Hikari got scolded by her Partner but Takeru's still doing it.
Delumon and Floramon turn to lead the kids in, but then Delumon stops and turns back to them.
Delumon: AH!!! Let me ask you one favor first de aru. You have to keep this a secret from PInocchimon de aru. Everyone: WE WILL DE ARU!!!
XD Goddammit every single one of you. Even Tailmon gets in on this one.
In the dub:
Tai: So, is Puppetmon inside the house right now? Deramon: I think he's out being fumigated for termites. Agumon: So what should we do, Tai? Tai: Well, now's a good chance to take a look inside the mansion. T.K.: Deramon, will you show us around? Deramon: Sure; I used to be a tour guide at Digimon Studios! (They start to go, but then Deramon stops) Deramon: Oh! No video cameras, flash photography, food, or drink are allowed during the tour. Everyone: GREAT!!! LET'S GO!!! Deramon: The main structure was built before the Digital Revolution....
Unable to utilize the de aru gag, the dub compensates with a lot of quipping. They also add a line for Deramon at the end, as the children silently approach the mansion, which is a strong choice.
Since we can't leave on the punchline of everyone saying de aru together, they wrote a different punchline playing off their "tour guide" angle. That way, we still get to end this scene on a silly note.
Elsewhere in the woods, MetalEtemon's search for Mimi and Jou continues, but they've found safety under the roots of a tree.
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MetalEtemon swings briefly into a tree branch, looking around the woods. He mutters to himself.
MetalEtemon: Damn it! Where did you run off to, children?
Then he grabs another vine and swings away, and we pan down to Jou, Mimi, and Ogremon hiding under a tree.
Mimi: Do your wounds still hurt? Ogremon: I'm doing well, Miss. I promise, I will return the favor some day. Mimi: You don't have to do that. Ogremon: NO, I MUST!!! That is the code of honor that every lone wolf upholds! Jou: (gasp) By "code of honor", do you mean like "O hikae nasu," "O hikae nasu,"!? Mimi: (laugh) That's so old-fashioned! Ogremon: (pout) ...so I'm an old-fashioned Digimon. Gomamon: Look! Ogremon is sulking! Kids: Ahahaha!
This one's complicated.
Ogremon's "code of honor" here is jingi, a particular sense of duty and ethics commonly associated with unsavory types such as yakuza. The phrase Jou breaks out for confirmation is an archaic way for yakuza and other criminal types to greet one another. He's confirming that Ogremon is talking about an "honor among thieves" sort of deal.
In the dub:
MetalEtemon: How hard could it be to find a bunch of kids!? (swings away) (Pan down to Mimi, Joe, and Ogremon) Mimi: So, does it still hurt? Ogremon: Actually, no. Not really. I need to know how I can ever thank you all. Mimi: Oh, forget about it. You don't need to thank us. Ogremon: No, I have to! It's an ancient tradition to repay all acts of kindness. It's part of my sacred moral code as an Ogremon! Joe: Sacred moral code; What are you, a member of King Arthur's Court or something!? Mimi: Oh, that's so romantic! Ogremon: (pout) I'm sorry, I'll try to be meaner next time! Gomamon: Yeah, you'll ruin your reputation! Kids: Ahahahahaha!
This flows pretty well but the nuance is lost. There's a context shift, as we lose the reference between Ogremon's behavior and old-school gang conduct. Without that connection, what is now all Ogremon having a "sacred moral code" lands a little weird given what we know about this guy.
End result, Ogremon gets ridiculed for having inexplicably high moral standards for a guy who tried to murder children that then go unexplained. In the original, he was being called out for being the Japanese equivalent of a Pinstripe Mafioso with a Tommy Gun.
Back at the mansion, Taichi and his group enter Pinocchimon's mansion.
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Right as they walk in, they find a gift box waiting on the stairs in the foyer. It springs open on its own, revealing a jack-in-the-box puppet of a soldier in camo fatigues. With an SMG in hand, the puppet sprays gunfire at the intruders.
The team scatters. Taichi, Sora, and Hikari go one way with Delumon, Piyomon, and Tailmon. Koushiro and Takeru go the other way with Floramon, Tentomon, Patamon, and Agumon. Most of the kids have their partners, though Taichi and Agumon are separated in the panic.
Taichi: W-What the hell!? Delumon: I think that was a jack-in-the-box! Taichi: Are you trying to lead us into a trap!? Delumon: Absolutely not! We aren't as mean and underhanded as Pincochimon! Please believe me. Hikari: We should believe him, Onii-chan.
Meanwhile, Koushiro's group finds a toy fire truck in their hallway.
Takeru: Huh? It's a fire truck? Floramon: Don't! If you touch it--
Too late. Patamon touches it, causing the siren to turn on.
Agumon: A siren? Floramon: This! (Floramon picks it up) Floramon: Needs to go! (Floramon hurls it out the window) Floramon: EVERYONE DOWN!!!
Everyone drops to the floor, covering their heads. Outside, the explosion from the detonating fire truck blasts open the wall beside them.
Koushiro: It was a time bomb.... Floramon: That's why I told you not to touch anything! Agumon & Patamon: Sorry....
Despite the censoring of other guns, the dub keeps the G.I. Jack-in-the-box sentry. I guess that gun's fine because it's disguised as a toy.
Tai: What was that!? Deramon: It's a Jack-in-the-Box with a serious attitude! Tai: You wouldn't happen to be leading us into some sort of trap, would you, Deramon!? Deramon: Why, of course not! I would never try anything as deceitful as Puppetmon! Cross my wings and hope to fly, honest! Kari: I believe him, Tai! How about you? Tai: (noncommital) Mm.... (Cut to the other wing) T.K.: OH BOY!!! Patamon: It's a toy! Floramon: Oh no! Make sure you don't touch it! Patamon: (touch) Uh-oh.... (Siren starts to blare) Agumon: What's happening? Floramon: WATCH OUT!!! (Floramon picks it up) Floramon: GET DOWN!!! (Floramon hurls it out the window) (Explosion) Izzy: It was a heat-activated bomb! Floramon: That's why I said don't touch anything! Agumon & Patamon: Sorry....
...it was a time bomb, Izzy.
When I was younger, I might have questioned the logic of putting a timer on a trap like this. But no, that's sound booby trap design. The bomb would have got them either way; The only reason it failed is because they had an infiltrator already familiar with the security system.
Putting a timer on your booby trap isn't a bad idea because it allows for what Floramon did. It is, in fact, a good idea because it allows for what Floramon did. The worst-case scenario with a trap like this is not that it fails to kill an intruder. It's that it successfully turns you into wall paste because you woke up groggy and forgot it was armed.
Good security design accounts for the possibility that your dumb ass might accidentally set it off one day. After all, an intruder only rolls those dice once; You're going to roll them every single day of your life going forward. A +19 circumstantial bonus won't save you from a Nat 1.
In any case, apart from Izzy misidentifying the bomb, this is a pretty solid adaptation.
From here, we return to Mimi and Jou, who are still conversing with Ogremon.
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Ogremon: You want to know why I fight with Leomon? Mimi: Yes. I want to understand the meaning behind your fights. Ogremon: Having a 'meaning' would make it too complicated. I guess you could say that Leomon and I are eternal rivals. Mimi: So what will happen when one of you wins? Ogremon: When one of us wins? I guess we'll cheer "HOORAY!!!" and know that we're stronger. Mimi: And after that? Ogremon: What do you mean, after that? Mimi: Then your rival would be gone. Ogremon: Leomon would be gone...? NEGH!!! Don't say things like that! I don't want to think about it!
Ogremon has no answer to Mimi's question and it freaks him the fuck out.
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Ogremon: Defeating Leomon is the only thing that brings meaning to my life. (voice breaks) If he were gone, I'd... I'd.... Mimi: That's a logical contradiction. Think carefully about this. Ogremon: SHUT UP!!! I'm still going to defeat Leomon! What comes next... It doesn't matter! I'll think about that after I've beaten him! Jou: So, in the end, we just came full circle.
Jou finds this to have been an uneventful exchange, but it's clear that Ogremon's flailing. Mimi's question cut him deep, nearly bringing him to tears, and now he's frantically backpedaling. She's planted a seed of doubt in his mind, even if it didn't bear fruit today.
Before this can go any further, an explosion is heard outside.
Jou: Huh? (Jou goes out to look around) Jou: What the...?
In stepping outside, Jou walks right into the trap. MetalEtemon lowers himself from a vine, singing.
MetalEtemon: Fo~ound yooooooou! Jou: RUN FOR IT!!!
The group flees their temporary shelter, running for their lives once again.
The dub opens this exchange with a gag.
Mimi: Ogremon, can I ask you a personal question? Ogremon: Yes, it's true; I don't floss. Mimi: That's not what I was going to ask! Why do you fight with Leomon? Do you have him? Ogremon: No, no. It's not a question of hate. It's our destiny to fight each other. He and I will be rivals for all eternity. Mimi: Well, if that's your only purpose in life, what would happen if you actually won? Ogremon: I never really thought about it before. Maybe I'll take a vacation; A cruise is always nice. Mimi: And after that? Ogremon: What do you mean, after that? Mimi: Well if the fight's over, you wouldn't have a rival anymore! Ogremon: Of course I would. He and I are like two old warriors; Fighting a war that has no beginning and has no end. Why, the only reason I exist at all is to defeat Leomon and if he were gone, well... I'm so confused. Mimi: You've got to have more of a purpose in life than to just defeat Leomon. Ogremon: Leave me alone! You can't possibly understand! This rivalry is as old as time itself! I don't care what happens; I'll think about it after I've defeated Leomon! Joe: You're getting way too excited! I'd better take your blood pressure.
XD Goddammit, Joe. That was funny, and a good reminder that he's technically Ogremon's physician right now.
This conversation goes off-track right around "If the fight's over, you won't have a rival anymore." The point of this scene is that Mimi is trying to get Ogremon to think about death; The logical conclusion of his and Leomon's violent rivalry. And succeeding!
In the dub, Ogremon blows right through the question, presuming that even after one of them wins, their rivalry will continue on forever anyways. The only concession he offers is that he briefly gets "confused".
Mimi then derails her own topic by questioning Ogremon's purpose in life instead of keeping the conversation centered on "What happens to the other one when one of you dies?"
MetalEtemon: (Tarzan yell) Joe: What's that? (Joe goes out to look around) Joe: It came from out here.... MetalEtemon: I FOUND YOU!!! Joe: RUN!!!
This part is another victim of the dub clearly not knowing which sound effects are supposed to go with the footage. Once again they mess up a plot point delivered only through sound.
The thing that draws Joe's attention is a mysterious explosion. That's what he's investigating. The dub uses MetalEtemon's Tarzan yell, which... Like... Why would Joe walk towards MetalEtemon's Tarzan yell when they're hiding from MetalEtemon?
He knows what that sound means. He was there the first time MetalEtemon did it.
Bad sound choice.
Back at the mansion, Pinocchimon finally returns home after a long day of monkey business.
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It does not go well.
Pinocchimon: Who should I play with next...? Taichi: (watching through mini telescope) Pinocchimon's on his way back.
Taichi's crew have reunited offscreen and found a cannon upstairs in the mansion. Agumon and Koushiro are inspecting it while he scouts.
Taichi: Is it ready? Koushiro: None of us know how to fire this thing. Agumon: (turns to the others) You guys! Delumon: You want me to fire it de aru!? Very well, but you DEFINITELY have to keep this a secret from Pinocchimon de aru! Taichi: We know! Agumon: De aruuu~!
Delumon and Floramon roll the cannon up to the window.
Delumon: Here we go de aru! Floramon: Alignment set. Delumon: FIIIIIIRE DE ARU!!!
To his complete shock, cannonballs explode around Pinocchimon.
Pinocchimon: W-WHAT!?!? WHAT THE!?
He turns around and swiftly retreats, taking cover behind a giant tree root.
Pinocchimon: Great, a hiding spot! I get it... This must be the Chosen Children! Just you wait... I'll get rid of you once and for all!
Once he's gotten his bearings, he raises his Bullet Hammer, dives back over the root, and charges for the mansion. He screams a full-throated battle roar as he charges, cannonballs exploding and ripping up the cobblestone walkway all around him.
In the dub:
Puppetmon: Who should I play with next? Tai: Puppetmon's coming back! Are you ready? Izzy: It would help if I had some idea of how this worked. Agumon: You do it. Deramon: What!? That's against every principle I stand for! Alright, what the heck, I'll do it but don't tell Puppetmon! It'll be our secret! Tai: Yeah, yeah. Agumon: We know! (Deramon and Floramon prepare the cannon) Deramon: Okay, I've got him in my sights. Ready! Aim! FIIIIIRE!!!
The dub puts its final commercial break here, right before the cannon fires. We return a couple seconds earlier to Deramon and Floramon wheeling the cannon to the window.
Deramon: I can see him coming! TAKE THIS, PUPPETMON!!! (Cannonfire begins) Puppetmon: Wha--!? WHOA!!! WHO'S SHOOTING AT ME!? (Puppetmon flees and takes cover behind a vine) Puppetmon: I know who it is! It's the DigiDestined! Hey, that's not fair! You're using my toys! (Puppetmon charges the mansion)
Not sure why Deramon would scream "Take this Puppetmon" when he doesn't want Puppetmon to know it's him, but that's a nitpick. This is pretty good, and the "That goes against my principles; Okay I'll do it" bit makes for a solid replacement for this round of the de aru gag.
Elsewhere in the woods, MetalEtemon continues his search for his prey.
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MetalEtemon: (calling) Where did you go, Chosen Children!?
MetalEtemon swings from a vine, searching for the kids and Ogremon; All of whom are taking cover under the nearby bushes to escape his sight.
Once he's gone, they get up to move. However, a bestial snarl from nearby catches their attention. The silhouette of a large creatre appears nearby.
Mimi: H-Huh!? Jou: Enemy or ally!?
The creature reveals themselves, emerging from the brush. It's a huge, vaguely familiar sabertoothed lion. Ogremon gasps at the sight of it, raising his club threateningly.
Three guesses who that is and the first two don't count.
In the dub:
MetalEtemon: You can't hide from me, I'm the king of swing!
Dub MetalEtemon harmonizes his Tarzan yell into a genuinely pleasant melody. I love this stupid monkey man so much. XD
(New creature appears) Mimi: What is that!? Joe: Friend or foe!? Ogremon: (eager) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Narrator: Who is this new creature? Could he be Ogremon's archrival? And will Puppetmon escape Deramon's cannon blast to take his revenge on the DigiDestined? Tune in for the next episode of Digimon: Digital Monsters!
I want to make a "SPOILERS FUCK" comment here but I'm not entirely convinced that the Dub Team ever watched episodes in advance so he might actually be speculating.
Assessment: Mimi gets a lot of focus in this one and Etemon returns so that automatically makes it the best episode in the series FIGHT ME
In seriousness, the Mimi arc is up and running with Ogremon challenged on the precise nature of his rivalry and what he wants out of it. Meanwhile, the battle with Pinocchimon has officially kicked off.
The dub handles this episode pretty well. There's a few missteps with characterization here and there as usual but overall a pretty good one, with plenty of jokes that land and their typical highly entertaining take on Etemon - though at a cost to much of Pinocchimon's personality.
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cuttyclowngirl · 1 month ago
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Daima ep.3 (Spoiler) Review
• Glorio shows zero concern over Kibito, Vegeta, Piccolo & Bulma not being able to enter the Demon Realm without a pin number. Perhaps this "King Kadan" Glorio was sent by figured Goku would be enough to overthrow (kill?) King Gohma. Shin (Supreme Kai) keeps trying to make Glorio slip up by asking loaded questions in a casual tone, Columbo style. Glorio responds with either answers that sometimes feel rehearsed or changes the subject.
• Shin mentioned that there was no pin number system back when he was a resident of the 2nd demon world. He mentioned the Demon Realm's different ecology, which judging from the ED, will be thoroughly explored. He explained that the 3rd world's lands float, is confirmed to be a type of demon called a Glind. The way Glorio describes them is sorta similar to the way most fantasy races would describe/complain about elves.
•I like the design of planet Batapi of the Rakka system. We'll probably never explore it.
• "Demon Realm planes function on 'Magic Power', so they're very fast." But who's "Magic Power"? Hope we find out. It explains how both King Gohma & Glorio easily traveled to Earth despite how far the nearest "Warp-Sama" is. The Warp-Sama was confirmed to be the only way to travel between Demon Realm & the Outer World. Warp-Sama is a comedically sensitive gatekeeper. Classic.
•Kid Goku with pointy ears was surprisingly off-putting for me.
• The violently chaotic way traveling between realms is depicted explains why King Gohma & co. seemed so disoriented when they landed on the lookout in EP 1.
• Despite the relay point between realms having 3 colored hatches representative of the 3 Demon worlds, I'm quite curious where the hundreds of other hatches lead. The 1st hatch only being available to palace members of the 1st world, like King Gohma, on top of Glorio letting slip that only those of the 1st Demon world can use Warp-Sama is feeding into my theory that Gloria was sent by Dr Arinsu. (Glorio works in the 1st world. How convenient) Then again, he mentioned that select members of the 2nd world also have permission to travel, maybe implying that the 3rd world is treated like a peasant country. Glorio (& likely Panzy) are from the 3rd world, of course.
• Cute detail about the Warp-Sama's of the the actual Demon world's is that their design feature the colors of their respective hatches in the relay point. (EP.1 A red/grey Warp-Sama. EP.3 A yellow/grey Warp-Sama)
• Despite being 99% this series probably won't canonize video game exclusive characters, the seal on the Demon Realm tunnel (previously a means of travel between demon worlds) sure reminds me of Chronoa (Supreme Kai of time) with what sort of look like clock hands pointing to 12,2,3,5,6,7,9 & 11:00. (Probably just a coincidence, but Chronoa is certainly old enough to have done that when Shin was an actual child, given how he's often described as a relatively young Kaio-shin)
• The introduction of the stinky gas emitted by the floating onion volcanoes making the air heavy to various degrees will help make Goku struggling in any capacity more believable, up until he gets used to it. It's sort of reminds me of the heavy gravity on King Kai's planet.
• So there's a "Sea of Darkness" in the 3rd world that can kill you instantly. (Possible future plot device/macguffin)
• Interesting camera wobbling when Goku & Glorio took on some bandits outside. Can't wait to find out who directed that scene, cuz we see it again when Glorio "negotiates" his hotel room price. It also seems like owning a gun might not be common in the 3rd world, judging by the reaction of the demon who runs the hotel.
• Money in the Demon Realm (or maybe just the 3rd world) is called "Dokuro". The demons of the 3rd world so far are pretty cute in design. But that could change as we explore further.
• The bar in this EP has very mild classic Star Wars inspo written all over it. All it needed was a band playing a silly tune. (I NEED to know what the burger meat is made of) The bar fight itself demonstrated that is relatively strong in his own right. If I had to guess from what little I saw though, I'd estimate he's probably about as strong as Goku was at the start of Dragon Ball. (Not that I care about power scaling anymore)
• Goku's segment of the bar fight where he uses set pieces like plates and his environment around him was refreshing and probably Toriyama indulging in Jackie Chan movie nostalgia. (He was a big fan of Jackie Chan)
• I like the commercial bumpers in the EP. Hope there's more than 2 going forward.
• Lmao, classic hoodlum revenge. Now Goku & co. gotta travel on foot cuz Glorio probably can't fly. More adventuring, yippee! ( I bet the note left behind says something crass & will also maybe lure our trio into a den of, let's be real here, fodder)
•Looks like we'll meet Panzy in the next EP.
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instaquarius · 3 months ago
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100 DBZ OC ART CHALLENGE
1.) Introduction.  2.) Flight.  3.) Hero.  4.) Full Moon.  5.) Transformation.  6.) Rage. 7.) Fusion (potara, Namekian, or finger fusion) 8.) Great Ape. 9.) Master and Student. 10.) Tournament. (Worlds Strongest Under the Heavens, the afterlife one from that one filler episode/arc, universes 6 v. 7 tournament, or the Tournament of Power) 11.) Fighting. 12.) Destruction. 13.) Ki control 14.) Aura. 15.) Blasts. 16.) Rivals. 17.) Quest. 18.) Family. 19.) Danger Zone. 20.) As a baby. 21.) With the Z sword (or training with the Z Sword) 22.) Victory. 23.) Death. 24.) Loss. 25.) Crisis. 26.) In other world. 27.) Snake way. 28.) Playing Baseball. 29.) At Kaio Samas' place. (In heaven?) 30.) In hell with HFIL ogres. 31.) Kaioshins' planet. 32.) Lovers. 33.) Doing Ginyu Force poses (or actually IN the Ginyu Force if you want XD) 34.) Saiyaman/Saiyagirl poses. 35.) 1st form, 2nd,3rd, 4th, (Golden or 5th form) 36.) Training in Gravity room 37.) Weighted Gi 38.) Wearing Earth clothes; casual 39.) in Dragonball art style (Like, before Z, Super etc.) 40.) Protection. 41.) Powering up. 42.) Fighting Frieza, Cell or Buu (or a movie villain) 43.) Universal Tournament. 44.) In the future. 45.) Immortality. 46.) Clones 47.) Finding the Dragonballs 48.) Meditating 49.) Fighting a God of Destruction 50.) Ritual 51.) Fighting the Legendary Super Saiyan 52.) Fighting in the Tuffle War 53.) Mind Control (by baby, Babidi, Towa/Mira etc.) 54.) As a Time Breaker 55.) As a Time Patroller 56.) Fighting the Z warriors.  57.) On Planet Vegeta. 58.) Getting absorbed (by a Majin?) 59.) False SSJ 60.) Getting turned into candy 61.) Inside the healing tank (like on Friezas spaceship) 62.) In the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (or Room of Spirit and Time) 63.) Eating. 64.) Revenge. 65.) Pride 66.) Sacrifice. 67.) Bloodied.  68.) Fear. 69.) Heart Virus. 70.) Meeting Arale (from Dr. Slump) 71.) Using the Kaioken. 72.) Climbing Korin Tower (like in original dragonball before flight was a thing) 73.) Wearing a Turtle Shell. 74.) Determined. 75.) Getting Married. 76.) Best Friends. 77.) Screams. 78.) Rescued. 79.) Mafuba. 80.) Killing. 81.) Defeat. 82.) Sadness. 83.) Happiness. 84.) In a Saiyan spacepod. 85.) Hatred. 86.) Crushed. 87.) Beam Struggle. 88.) Genki Dama (Spirit Bomb) 89.) Showering 90.) Wearing the pink Badman shirt 91.) Scheming. 92.) Fighting Merged Zamasu (or Regular Zamasu) 93.) Fighting a Black version of your OC (hint: Goku Black) 94.) Unlocked Potential.  95.) Confused. 96.) In highschool. 97.) Tears. 98.) Act of kindness 99.) Tag team 100.) With you (The creator of OC/artist) saying they survived the Challenge
Rules~~~~ 1.) Can go from any order you wish. It doesn't matter the order you do these in. 2.) Be creative. 3.) All writings/drawings must be related to DBZ in some way/the theme you choose to do. 4.) Link if you do do this? I'd love to see :3 5.) Also please leave a mention to this in your submissions~ 6.) You can use both OCs and cannon characters as long as its related to the series. 7.) Can be done whenever you feel like~ (No deadline or each theme has to be done once a day or anything) 8.) (Your also free to copy paste to a journal or something the themes to keep track of them as long as credits back to me)  9.) Have fun~
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evenmorefatallyobsessed · 8 months ago
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What other crossover characters would you not give an Arc Mark because they are with someone else? Rarity with Spike is an example. This goes to anyone that you might draw in the future.
Asta and Yami's ships from Black Clover Merlin cuz she is Lord Escanors! (PRIASE THE SUN!!!) Krillin is always under 18 (Lol) Cheelai and Broly is probably the most adorble ship in the entire Dragon Ball Series Bulma and Chichi are Vegeta and Gokus... (Except for when their fused, but they don't talk about that, cuz only a fool would say no to Vegito or Gogeta) Vidal is half of Gohan's everything (Was was his everything before their precious daughter was born) Mai is Trunk's Future Hayase Nagatoro and Naoto Hachioji are the oddest couple I've ever love. Naruto and Hinata are a ship all others should strive to be (Also Tsunade, if Naruto's personal Gilf and Hinata needs a hand cuz let's face it Naruto is a walking gangbang, hell throw Shizune and Naruto's many Movie Waifus into that mix too. Maybe even Sarada just to throw a little age gap in the mix) Shikamaru and Temari are just too damn cute together for me to accept anything else. Karui Akimichi may be sorta bitchy but honest to god lets face facts she loves Choji and more importantly we know for a fact he can make parts of his body WAY bigger... Let that sink in. She is for sure a Size Queen. Gojou and Kitagawa from 'My Dress Up Darling' and if we're being honest it's cuz Gojou is just too fucking adorble of a man and a hell of a artisan. Ichijo and Orihime, I've loved this ship since forever and nothing and nobody will convince me otherwise. Bleaches best couple in my opinion. Kaguya-sama: Love Is War has made it in my mind that Shirogane/ Kaguya and Miko and Yuu are simply too pure and perfect to be with anyone else.
Ash and Serena, I never thought I would be invested in a love story in Pokémon of all series, but here we are.
INUYASHA, KAGOME AND KIKIYO, fuck anyone and everyone who can adore the former and feel bad for the later girl. The only solace is that as her reincarnation that at least to some extent Kikyo is with Inuyasha. Also Moroha is the best part of Yashahime, hands down without doubt
These are what come to me off the top of my head, any and all these are off limits period.
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duhragonball · 24 days ago
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Damia 3: Daima
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We made it! We're finally in Demon World! Well one of them, anyway.
This is mainly a worldbuilding episode with some action scenes, so I guess we'll talk about that for a bit. But to be honest, I'm kind of itching to discuss the Demon Realm lore that I thought I knew before Daima, and what Daima appears to be laying down.
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To start us off, Glorio pilots his plane to Warp-sama, the giant metal fish we saw in Episode 1. I didn't really mention "Lord Warp" before, partly because I knew we'd see him again here. Also, Warp seems like more of a plot device than a character. The Buu Saga established that the Demon Realm was separate from the "outer universe" (i.e. the galaxies, Otherworld, Hell, Snake Way, etc.). The Supreme Kai had heard of Dabura, but never guessed that he would show up on Earth as one of Babidi's minions. The implication was that Babidi would have to go to Deamon Realm, enslave its mightiest warrior, and then both of them would have to leave the Demon Realm to carry on their Majin Buu scheme. Such a thing was possible, but extremely unlikely, suggesting some kind of barrier between the two worlds.
Later works like Dragon Ball Heroes and the Xenoverse games used this as a motivation for the Demon Realm villains. Mechikabura, founder of the Dark Empire, was banished by the Kais to what eventually became known as the Demon Realm. His big dream was to bust out and conquer the outside universe. From his story, I always got the impression that the population of Demon Realm was descended from wicked Core People, or other evildoers that the Kaioshin couldn't otherwise contain. Towa, Dabura's sister, was conducting experiments in the outer universe with the end goal of breaking down the barrier. I'm pretty sure she was less concerned about conquest, and more interested in the chaos that would ensue with the barrier removed.
Daima actually shows us the barrier, and it's a sort of transit system. To reach Warp, Glorio has to pilot his plane to the planet Batapi, which is the closest Warp to Earth. I guess there's more than one Warp, or it's the same Warp and he has a multitude of bodies across space. Oh, and when Gomah used Warp in Episode 1, he had to specify that he wanted to go to Universe 7. So I'm pretty sure that means you can use the Warp system to travel to any of the 12 universes described in Dragon Ball Super.
The catch is that you have to talk to Warp before he'll let you cross. He's like a guy stationed at a border crossing, and you better not screw with him if you want to finish your trip. Goku calls him a big goldfish and the Supreme Kai's like "Shut up, man, you're gonna blow it!"
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Glorio identifies himself and says he's returning home, but Warp wants to make sure Glorio's other passengers are Demons. The Supreme Kai checks out because he has pointy ears, but Goku doesn't, so the Kai has to magically shape-shift Goku's ears to pass. I'm curious how Vegeta and Bulma will pull this off when they go. Maybe Piccolo can make them some fake ears with his Clothes Beam Power.
From there, you just fly into Warp's mouth, which takes you through some kind of interdimensional spin-cycle, and then you emerge out of the butthole of another giant fish, or maybe the same one? I dunno. But first you have to provide a four-digit PIN number. This troubles the Supreme Kai, because he knew about Warp, but the PIN number business is new to him. He had relayed the location of Planet Batapi to Kibito earlier, but he never has a chance to warn him about the PIN number. I'm betting this is why we don't see Kibito in the closing credits. I think the plan is for him to join Bulma's group when she finishes her repair work, but he'll end up having to stay behind in order to ensure Bulma can get across.
Glorio describes and application process that's required to get a PIN number, but so far we've yet to find out who's in charge of all of this. Warp just seems to be following a protocol, and clearly King Gomah doesn't have any say in the matter, since he had to go through this same procedure in Episode 1. Likewise, the Supreme Kai is the highest authority in Universe 7, but he clearly has no idea who crosses over or when. I always assumed the ancient Kaioshin set up the barrier, since in the old lore it seemed to be a prison, but they wouldn't have allowed a transit system like this, especially under someone else's control.
Anyway, the trip through Warp leads to a white void full of portals to all sorts of places across the multiverse, but there's three that lead to the Demon Realm. King Gomah resides in the First Demon Realm, and that's where they need to go to kick his ass and save Dende. But Glorio was sent to Earth by the request of the King of the Third Demon Realm, which means Glorio only has clearance to return to the Third. You go through that, there's another interdimensional spin cycle, and another Warp poops your plane out of his fishy anus.
Okay, so first up on the tour is the Demon Realm Tunnel, which is a giant hole in the ground that apparently leads to the Second Demon Realm, and on to the First. Long ago, it was possible to travel freely between the three worlds, but someone blocked it off with a "shield of light" to cut off the traffic. The Supreme Kai says this happened when he was young, which makes it sound like he might have been there when it happened.
So now, the only way to travel between the three Demon worlds is using Warp, but only First Worlders and select members of the Second are allowed to use Warp. Third Worlders are apparently S.O.L., but the Supreme Kai figures Glorio must be a Third World resident, due to his appearance. So how did he get clearance? Glorio seems perturbed by the question, but he explains that he does "work" in the First World. What kind of work? "This and that."
There's a big statue of Dabura, but it's in poor condition, and who cares anyway? Buu ate that guy like thirty years ago. Goku is more interested in landing so he can take in the fresh Demon Realm air. It smells bad, and it's thicker than Earth air, which slows down his movements. Glorio explains this is due to special gas emitted from floating volcanoes all over the sky. There's a fart joke to be had in this, but I'll let you figure that out for yourselves.
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So it's pretty clear that this is a plot device to nerf Goku's powers further. I find that strange, since he already got nerfed when Gomah turned him into a kid. He spent all of Episode 2 just getting adjusted to the balance of his smaller body. Now he's got the Demon Realm air to slow him down a bit more. Fair enough, but how much weaker does he need to be? I guess it makes sense because they couldn't just make all the Demon characters stronger, since Dabura was the strongest of them all, and he was about Perfect Cell-level, which just gets you killed in the Buu Saga.
Also, I'm curious how this is going to impact Bulma when she gets to Demon Realm. If the air is thick enough to hinder Goku's speed, then you'd think Bulma would barely be able to move at all. Maybe she gets a magic doohickey to counteract the problem.
While Goku fools around, Glorio asks the Supreme Kai if he's a "Glind", who used to live in the Second Demon World. The Kai confirms he is a Glind, but he doesn't say if he's actually from the Second Demon World. This show seems rather cagey about this point. We keep getting lore that strongly suggests all of the Kais, King, Grand, and Supremes, are former Demon Realm residents. But the Supreme Kai never comes out and says that's where he's from, even though he has pointy ears and seems to know a lot about the Demon Realm already.
The Kai does say that he's never been to the Third Demon Realm before, which suggests that he's at least visited the First or Second before. Glorio says that a high-falutin' Second Worlder like Shin never would have had any reason to go slumming in the Third, but Shin doesn't take the bait.
At this point, I'm guessing the deal here is that Shin, Degesu, and Arinsu were all from the Second Demon World, and then somehow Shin got called up to become a Kai, while Degesu and Arinsu rose up the ranks to become key officials in the First Demon Realm's palace. The way I remember it, the Kais were originally said to be from a race known as the Core People, and a select few of them were deemed worthy of becoming Kais or Kaioshin. And I'm pretty sure all the Core People grew on trees. So maybe Toriyama jettisoned all that in favor of this Glind business, or the answer is more complex.
There's also a "Sea of Darkness" at the bottom of all the cliffs in the Third Demon World. Fall in and you die. I guess this is different from the usual death you get when you fall down a regular cliff.
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Also, there are armed bandits or something in the wilderness. Their arrows and spears are too slow in the air to be much of a threat, so Glorio runs up and shoots at them with his cool laser gun. Come to think of it, a laser gun doesn't sound like it fits the whole Demon Realm aesthetic, but maybe Glorio picked it up in Universe 7 someplace.
The gang resumes their trip, and Glorio's plan is to get a hotel room in the nearest town and then meet with King Kadan, the ruler of the Third Demon Realm. But first Goku's hongry, so they gotta take him to a saloon to get some hamburgers. Goku ate a little dinner before Glorio showed up in Episode 2, so he's not looking for a full meal. He'll just take five hamburgers, please. Goku asks what kind of meat they're made of, and Glorio says "don't ask." My guy, Goku's eaten centipedes before. He's not asking because he's worried, he wants to bring home the recipe to his wife.
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Anyway, all the demons in the bar hate Goku because he has round ears, which means he must be from out of town. They start a fight, and Glorio clobbers a few of them, but the others try to attack Goku, and now they're in a whole other town. A town called Goku Town. Population: Whoopass!
I have to say, while this show has a slower, more relaxed pace to it, it definitely has not skimped on the action. Episode 1 had plenty of fight scenes from the Buu Saga flashback, and then Goku and Vegeta do some sparring near the end. Episode 2 didn't have an actual fight, but Goku did horse around a lot with his Nyoibo, and that's pretty rad. This time, Goku does a whole Jackie Chan thing to win a barroom brawl, and he eats all his burgers while he fights. He even says that this is just the sort of exercise he needs to get acclimated to the conditions in this world, so the implication here is that he's already planning to have bigger and better fights later on. Then he orders a sixth hamburger to put the exclamation point on this whole fight scene.
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This is a great way to introduce Goku to the audience. I mean, Goku already has a Macy's Parade float, and there's a nice explanation of his backstory in the opening credits of this show, but it's still good to sum the guy up every so often. He acted like a big yokel for most of this episode, saying goofy stuff to Warp, faring in the plane, and so on, but when it's time for eating and fighting he's all business, and he enjoys his work. I think this is something a lot of post-DBZ works have failed to capitalize on. GT Goku didn't fight nearly as much as he probably should have, and Goku spent much of Super whining about the lack of good fights between big showdowns. The Super Dragon Ball Heroes anime had multiple Gokus in it, and sometimes they even fought each other, but I don't think they quite captured the sheer joy of it, what with all the alternate universe stuff going on in every installment.
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Anyway, the next morning the gang heads to the parking lot to get in their plane, but it's been stolen. Whoops.
If I remember right, almost the exact same thing happened in Episode 3 of GT, which may have helped fuel speculation that Daima is some kind of GT remake, at least in spirit. And maybe it is, but Episode 3 is about where GT went sideways, so I have a hard time believing we're going to keep seeing parallels for much longer...
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fandom-trash-xl · 10 days ago
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EPISODE 7: COLLAR
#NotMyGoku
A SINGLE SHOT CHANGED IN THE OPENING. They replaced the minotaur with a bunch of King Kidan's royal entourage.
We tune back in with Team 2- turns out the ship failed because one of its systems required a Demon Realm exclusive element. Luckily, just that very second, Hybis comes by to pick them up. We get a cute little second of Vegebul where Vegeta steps in front of his wife, but, otherwise, they pretty much trust Hybis instantly.
And Bulma's coming along! Don't know what made up her mind this time. Maybe she was kinda curious anyway, but Kibito not coming along gave her space in the ship to tag in. Maybe she wants to pursue that new element for science reasons. Maybe her husband has abandonment issues.
Back in the Demon Realm, Goku discovers magical multimeal rations and we, the audience, discover the writers' barely disguised fetish right as the Gendarmerie pulls them over. Turns out Panzy's collar isn't letting them fly under the radar.
Panzy's also got a sharp eye, at least for spotting the fuzz.
After pulling off some Instant Transmission (which seems to be working just fine) shenanigans to keep Goku out of sight, the demon cops finally decide that Panzy's suspicious after the failed smoke bomb raid- they don't seem to care or even acknowledge that she's the princess.
We get a brief little fight- Shin can actually hold his own, Glorio shows off his lightning techniques with a tactical precision strike (I then proceed to dissolve, help me), and Goku gives the last plane a Team Rocket blast off with a... regular ki blast. No Kamehameha yet?
Unfortunately, broken glass is enough to stop our heroes, so they have to steal one of the Gendarmerie planes. Panzy disables the communicators on the unconscious grunts, but there's still the concern of her collar.
She can't break it, it's made of Katchintite! It's indestructible! Never heard that one before! /s
Proving my point, Shin has some magic that can break it!
Speaking of Shin, turns out he has a true Demon Realm name- Nahare. Still doesn't seem to match up with his siblings' names, unless there's some sort of wordplay I'm not picking up on.
Once they're on the road (in the sky?) again, Panzy gets in touch with her hacker friend (he's giving Kikono vibes, but also frog vibes) to give them a new Warp-Sama passcode. And I sure hope those are headphones he's got on, because if we're breaking the Demon Realm pointy-ear rule already, I swear...
Maybe there are a few round ear folks in the Demon Realm, just more of outcasts.
Goku's too itchy about fighting the Tamagami to hold off and wait for Vegeta and the rest of the gang, so he tells them to just catch up to them just as Hybis is giving his demands for payment in worm pizza. (And he's single, you say?)
Not that we're at the Tamagami site, now's the time to point out that the Dragon Ball Super rot has returned.
Fuel for the ill-informed "Bad Dad Goku" fire: "How did you raise a kid?" "Oh, I wasn't really involved!"
OH SHUT UP RIGHT NOW
On top of that, Goku's backpedaling in his recovery in Fight-holics Anonymous. "Gee, I wonder how strong the Tamagami is! I can't wait to fight the Tamagami! The strong villain couldn't beat them that makes me want to fight them more!" What happened to the goal of, you know, getting the wish to help Dende?
Anyway, let's breathe and go over the next episode preview:
Goku fights the Tamagami as Piccolo, Vegeta, and Bulma get up to some Demon Realm shenanigans, and Glorio continues his shady dealings.
EPISODES WITHOUT KNOWING HANVI'S WHEREABOUTS: 7
The counter seems even sillier now that we're fully in the Demon Realm, but it's about the bit!
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bliss-wily · 9 months ago
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of all characters why zarbon? he was weak and pointless.
EDIT: Please draw your attention to this post as it’s relevant to this one, only if you wish to as the two posts go hand in hand, but it’s important. https://www.tumblr.com/bliss-wily/743634450086264832/an-apology-it-has-come-to-my-attention-that-a
I’ll agree to disagree. Zarbon was formidable. Vegeta underestimated him, he transformed, he beat Vegeta up but didn’t kill him. Frieza was disappointed in him, but in the short amount of screen time he had in all of his appearances we learn a lot:
He was highly intelligent.
His avoidance of transforming most of the time reveals that the man had been holding back for decades if not centuries. The Raging Blast games imply it was ‘eons’.
Zarbon is a Prince, and despite being regarded as a narcissist unlike Vegeta he isn’t flaunting that title like some shiny badge.
Outside of…Dead Zone? I think? Zarbon is the first to showcase a transformation that isn’t a giant form.
And unlike the Saiyans he takes on a different appearance.
There was depth to his character, his on screen kill count is low, he was shown to be pragmatic and rather humane.
But…he was scared. Frieza threatened to kill him. That threw him off his game.
I think had Zarbon took a moment to process and clear his head he would have beaten Vegeta again. However, I still don’t think he would have killed him…I think he would have turned on Frieza.
Sure he said Frieza-sama in the Japanese version but…
If you had been saying that for decades it’s kinda hard to break the habit. I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
He’s not stupid, I think he was serious about betraying Frieza because think about it..
He served a man who had different values from him out of fear.
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Zarb was pragmatic, he just wanted to take care of the source of the problem and leave everything else alone - Frieza didn’t agree.
Unlike the others the boy had a genuine look of sadness and shock when Frieza was quite happy to go through with Planet Vegeta’s destruction.
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He is my favourite because there is so many layers to him. He wasn’t in the series long but he’s just so interesting. His race is unique, his personality feels unique. His fighting style was unique too. If anyone had to be revived I hope it’s either Raditz or Zarbon as those two could have been redeemed and they could have joined the Z-Fighters.
He is morally grey, but, Vegeta was down right cruel and could be redeemed. Zarbon had shown evidence of redeeming qualities in all forms of media (wanting peace, worried about Frieza gaining more power, he was self aware, with Dodoria showed remorse and shock when Planet Vegeta was blown up) and he certainly didn’t turn around and kill his closest friend/father figure. (Let’s face it, Nappa basically raised Vegeta and probably Raditz too).
Zarbon isn’t perfect, but that’s what I like to see. He had shortcomings, he was fearful but not a coward, he had phobias, but he also tried to do his job without all the collateral damage and he genuinely cares. He was shocked hearing of Dodoria dying, he gets pissy when alternate timeline Frieza starts insulting him and his ‘star subordinate’, he shows that he’s capable of jealousy and he can be thankful and apologetic.
I understand he’s branded as a narcissist because he thinks he’s beautiful but so many of his traits contradict NPD. He is empathetic, he doesn’t put himself or his own gain above others, he can take accountability for his failures. It seems more so that the other in verse characters place those traits onto him - such as when they expect that Zarbon is only using the future warrior as a slave or to do his dirty work - but he doesn’t.
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“You need only watch.” - doesn’t necessarily want help from his student.
“Excellent, I’d much rather spend time with you.” - actually enjoys spending time with his student.
“This session was deeply moving for me. It would not have been possible had we not met.” - can be interpreted in several ways. However; it sounds like a bond is developing.
“I welcome any and all who know how to conduct themselves.” - this is said to a Saiyan, implies that his detest is by person, not an entire race.
“You handled yourself pretty well out there too. My compliments.” - he is always handing out praise to his student. But not just them, there are soldiers on the ship who sound so happy that Zarbon compliments them unlike Frieza and Dodoria.
“Magnificent! You’ve done well to come this far! You’ve done your instructor proud!” - again, actually being happy for his student.
“I am dazzled by your radiance!” - this is just showing more and more depth to this man. I get Zarbon is entitled but he’s a Prince, they’re all a bit entitled.
Some more quotes seeing as I have a ton of screenshots~
“You are my prized trainee!”
“Starting now I will polish you into the most beautiful gem the universe has ever seen!”
“Yes! Yes! You’re just as beautiful as I imagined you’d be!”
“You have my apologies. I should not be so passionate in front of my trainee.”
“Your fighting style is truly elegant. So elegant, in fact, that I’ve fallen in love with it, just watching you train.”
“You are a true diamond in the rough…”
“But several will try to woo you, given your considerable strength, and I wouldn’t want you to choose the wrong master.”
Below, Zarbon being nice and a bit of tsundere/flirt. This game seemed like a dating sim at times.
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Also I notice in this fight he will throw himself in front of the future warrior several times. He always gets knocked out every time I do this fight as he won’t let the player get hurt - every other mentor I’ve done this with tends to make it to the end on all versions of the game but Zarbon really puts his neck out there for the player. Whether it’s a glitch in the AI or not; I don’t know. But, it plays into his characterisation.
Anyway I went on a ramble, but why Zarbon? So many reasons. The more lore they add; the more I like him. He’s a complex character in my opinion.
EDIT: Please draw your attention to this post as it’s relevant to this one, only if you wish to as the two posts go hand in hand, but it’s important. https://www.tumblr.com/bliss-wily/743634450086264832/an-apology-it-has-come-to-my-attention-that-a
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galexibrain · 2 months ago
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100 DBZ OC art challenge master post
Original post by @instaquarius
Using this to link all the fanarts I made for this challenge.
I don't know how far I'm going to come with this but it'll be great practice and a playground to expand on my favorite OC :3
Not doing them chronologically but however I want. Or drawing lots XD
1.) Introduction. See post 2.) Flight. 3.) Hero. 4.) Full Moon. 5.) Transformation. 6.) Rage. 7.) Fusion (potara, Namekian, or finger fusion) 8.) Great Ape. 9.) Master and Student. 10.) Tournament. (Worlds Strongest Under the Heavens, the afterlife one from that one filler episode/arc, universes 6 v. 7 tournament, or the Tournament of Power) 11.) Fighting. 12.) Destruction. 13.) Ki control 14.) Aura. 15.) Blasts. 16.) Rivals. 17.) Quest. 18.) Family. 19.) Danger Zone. 20.) As a baby. 21.) With the Z sword (or training with the Z Sword) 22.) Victory. 23.) Death. 24.) Loss. 25.) Crisis. 26.) In other world. 27.) Snake way. See post 28.) Playing Baseball. 29.) At Kaio Samas' place. (In heaven?) 30.) In hell with HFIL ogres. 31.) Kaioshins' planet. 32.) Lovers. 33.) Doing Ginyu Force poses (or actually IN the Ginyu Force if you want XD) 34.) Saiyaman/Saiyagirl poses. 35.) 1st form, 2nd,3rd, 4th, (Golden or 5th form) 36.) Training in Gravity room 37.) Weighted Gi 38.) Wearing Earth clothes; casual 39.) in Dragonball art style (Like, before Z, Super etc.) 40.) Protection. 41.) Powering up. 42.) Fighting Frieza, Cell or Buu (or a movie villain) 43.) Universal Tournament. 44.) In the future. 45.) Immortality. 46.) Clones 47.) Finding the Dragonballs 48.) Meditating 49.) Fighting a God of Destruction 50.) Ritual 51.) Fighting the Legendary Super Saiyan 52.) Fighting in the Tuffle War 53.) Mind Control (by baby, Babidi, Towa/Mira etc.) 54.) As a Time Breaker 55.) As a Time Patroller 56.) Fighting the Z warriors. 57.) On Planet Vegeta. 58.) Getting absorbed (by a Majin?) 59.) False SSJ 60.) Getting turned into candy 61.) Inside the healing tank (like on Friezas spaceship) 62.) In the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (or Room of Spirit and Time) 63.) Eating. 64.) Revenge. 65.) Pride 66.) Sacrifice. 67.) Bloodied. 68.) Fear. 69.) Heart Virus. 70.) Meeting Arale (from Dr. Slump) 71.) Using the Kaioken. 72.) Climbing Korin Tower (like in original dragonball before flight was a thing) 73.) Wearing a Turtle Shell. 74.) Determined. 75.) Getting Married. 76.) Best Friends. 77.) Screams. 78.) Rescued. 79.) Mafuba. 80.) Killing. 81.) Defeat. 82.) Sadness. 83.) Happiness. 84.) In a Saiyan spacepod. 85.) Hatred. 86.) Crushed. 87.) Beam Struggle. 88.) Genki Dama (Spirit Bomb) 89.) Showering 90.) Wearing the pink Badman shirt 91.) Scheming. 92.) Fighting Merged Zamasu (or Regular Zamasu) 93.) Fighting a Black version of your OC (hint: Goku Black) 94.) Unlocked Potential. 95.) Confused. 96.) In highschool. 97.) Tears. 98.) Act of kindness 99.) Tag team 100.) With you (The creator of OC/artist) saying they survived the Challenge
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quantrix02 · 9 months ago
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The Legendary Akira Toriyama’s impact
I needed an extra day to gather my thoughts before I wrote this. What do I even say about man who has literally help morph me into the person I am today. Some may think it’s a little odd to get emotional over a person you have never met or better yet even seen in the public eye. Mr. Toriyama was a really private man that even people who worked on his project have never met him, but some how his worked has touched and influenced millions across the world. You can hate Dragon Ball, but you cannot deny its influence on not only manga/anime, but pop culture in general. No other series had athletes throwing kamehamehas as celebrations, or rappers using a super saiyan bar in their flow. This man’s doodle of a little monkey kid has made it all the way to nationally watched Macy’s day parade as a float! Referenced constantly in other cartoons, anime, and video games. He set the standards for transformations in anime with the creation of “Super Saiyan”, a very subtle change of the hair (something he was really good at) became iconic and many series followed it. Gear 5, 6 path sage Mode, Super Sonic, all influenced by Toriyama.
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I have to talk about my own personal attachment to Mr. Toriyama’s work. I wouldn’t be the man I am today without Dragon Ball coming into my life. If I didn’t catch Dragon Ball randomly on a Saturday morning in the late 90s and then a littler later with Z premiering on Toonami who knows if I’d even be watching anime today. As a kid growing up I was hooked, I couldn’t consume enough DB content. Goodbye Power Rangers, Goku and the Z Fighters were my new heroes. Running home after school to see how Goku was gonna overcome the odds was an event everyday! Going to Suncoast (a true throwback IYKYK) and picking up the overpriced VHS tapes just to watch stuff from a 20 episodes ahead of the Toonami broadcast and sharing it with my friends made me the coolest kid on the block. Going online and printing out cool pictures of Trunks, Broly, Majin Vegeta (before they debut on American soil) and putting them in front of of my school binder was a time. The posters, figures, videos games, t shirts that my mom and now myself has spent on this product is a little ridiculous, but I wouldn’t change it.
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This loss has hit me harder than any celebrity passing in awhile. This is a MJ, Kobe level loss for me. Toriyama sama I know that you didn’t interact with fan, but I hope you could see the impact you have made in this world. My other favorite Mangaka made their manga because of you. I’ve met life long friends because of you, I’m on this app weekly livebloggin anime because of you. So many people love your work and that goes beyond Dragon Ball. Dragon Quest, Dr. Slump, Jaco, Blue Dragon, and so much more of your work will forever be celebrated. You are a true legend and will never be forgotten. Thank you for everything you’ve given us. Rest well
_Sincerely a fan 🐉
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digiships · 1 year ago
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🌊 CUPID 🌊
HE/IT/PAW 🪼 23 🐬 WHITE & ABLEBODIED & AUTIHD
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more info under the cut!
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DNI: pro/comship, age down self inserts/age up characters for selfshipping, under 16, transmed/truscum, ship with racist/rapist characters, racebend your self insert, erase canon orientations, are weird to ppl who arent ok sharing, etcetcetc be normal
BYF:
- if i softblock you, chances are either A. we share an f/o i have unlisted that youre not comfortable sharing or B. you share an f/o with my partner or qpp!! it's nothing personal!
- please tag posts that talk abt f/os as if theyre real people with "unreality"! example: a post saying "your f/o feels your love for them across universes", i have ocd and that kind of thing is Bad for me mentally
- yes some of these characters are "yanderes" and/or are from media made by pr0sh1pp3rs, this does NOT mean i am pr0sh1p. i am vehemently against any of that kind of content and am still disgusted by it. i selfship w these characters for coping reasons that i'm not going to list out here, but if it's important for you to know you're more than welcome to dm me/send an ask off-anon!! i actively avoid engaging w the creators and the fandoms and i stay in my little corner playing w them like dolls. if this still makes you uncomfortable then please hardblock me, do what you need to stay safe!!
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* - ok with sharing!
bold - NO sharing Ever sorry
Main F/O's:
^ im ok sharing Most f/os if we're already mutuals, but if we r strangers i will block you So sorry . if im still not ok w it i will just blacklist your ship tag if u have one! tldr mutuals i love you
full list here!
🌌 Kurt Wagner - X-Men
🍎 Wally Darling - Welcome Home
🍑 Sun Wukong - you know
🌺 Vash the Stampede - Trigun
🎤 Natsuki Shinomiya - Uta no Prince-Sama
🪽 Dick Grayson - DC
💳 Mammon - Obey Me
🔥 Caleb Widogast - Critical Role
🖍️ Sunny Day Jack - Something's Wrong With Sunny Day Jack
🩶 Pe.ter Dun.bar - Yo.ur Bo.yfrie.nd*
🌱 Law.rence Ole.ander - Bo.yfrie.nd to De.ath 2
🔪 John Doe - Mortisfox*
🦇 Rei Sakuma - Ensemble Stars
⚔️ Future Trunks - Dragon Ball Z/Super
Other F/Os:
🌐 Gamma 2 - Dragon Ball Super
🍖 Son Goku - Dragon Ball series*
💎 Demiurge - Overlord
🧸 Toki Wartooth - Metalocalypse
👁️ Jonathan Sims - The Magnus Archives
☁️ Martin Blackwood - The Magnus Archives
🖲 HAL9000 - 2001:ASO
🩸 Ve.ssel - Sl.eep Tok.en
🔮 Gale Dekarios - Baldur's Gate 3*
❤️‍🩹 Astarion - Baldur's Gate 3*
🐻 Halsin - Baldur's Gate 3
🗡 Wyll Ravengard - Baldur's Gate 3*
💣 Hi.romu Taka.hashi - NJ.PW
👹 Ka.ne - W.WF
🦷 Ma.nkind - W.WF
📌 Floyd - Trolls
🍦 Kaito - Vocaloid
🔑 Chilchuck Tims - Dungeon Meshi
🌤 Dogday - Poppy Playtime
🔫 Pico - Newgrounds
👢 Boothill - Honkai Star Rail
🧨 Scar - Wuthering Waves
💐 Pim Pimling - Smiling Friends
⚾ Kenji Sato - Ultraman Rising
🟪 Infected/Kasper - Regretevator (Roblox)*
⚪ Wallter - Regretevator (Roblox)*
🐟 Sebastian Solace - Pressure (Roblox)
👔 Aaron Hotchner - Criminal Minds
🧤 Spencer Reid - Criminal Minds
📱 Derek Morgan - Criminal Minds
Crushes:
👒 Luffy - One Piece
🃏 Bittergiggle - Garten of Banban
🥊 Banban/Uthman - Garten of Banban
💤 Geshu Lin - Wuthering Waves
Familial F/Os
🎸 Dethklok + CFO - Metalocalypse
🍷 Sebas Tian - Overlord
🐛 Piccolo - Dragon Ball series
🛡 Vegeta - Dragon Ball Z/Super
🌟 Daycare Attendant - FNAF:SB
- ☀️ Sun, 🌙 Moon, 🌗 Eclipse
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tobiasdrake · 1 month ago
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Alright, here we go with Dragon Ball Daima, episode 3. Onward, to Daimakai!
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Hold up, hold up. The transit space is called Warp-sama? With the -sama honorific, which is meant to show respect to venerable elders and mentors and stuff? XD
...I have to know what the dub calls it. One sec.
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Wait, is Daima not being... I think the word is dualcast? Where they release both the dub and sub alongside each other.
Huh. I just assumed.
*google google*
...they're not releasing the dub on Crunchyroll because they want people to turn out for a theatrical release of the first three episodes.
I. Don't know enough about Western anime releases to know if that's weird or not. But it's definitely one solid
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from me. Uh. Have fun at Regal Cinema, I guess?
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First portion of this episode is spent making the journey through Warp-sama in order to reach Daimakai. Which would probably be more impactful if we hadn't already spent a bunch of time watching King Gomah make the same trip previously.
Like. This would be really awesome to go through for the very first time right alongside Goku, with the same sense of wonder he has, while Glorio's explaining how it all works.
But now I'm just like, "I don't care. I've seen this. I understand what this is. You're rehashing. Get to the new stuff."
Which only reinforces my opinion that the first episode is bad. After spending half an episode watching a Dragon Ball Z clip show, they then proceeded to shortsightedly ruin the beginning to episode 3. This should have been our first exposure to Warp-sama.
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I am too, mainly because the closing credits indicated that Bulma, Vegeta, and Piccolo will make it to Daimakai. But I am curious how the PIN number will play into things.
Hopefully this means Team Bulma will get to explore the bureaucracy of Warp-sama and build that out a bit while Goku's having demon adventures.
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Especially since it looks like Goku now has a roadmap for getting to Makai #1 without needing to go through Warp-sama to do it. So if Team Bulma does come through Warp-sama, they can probably just meet up with him in Makai #2 or something.
Much like the offhandedly established Tamagami, these pathways blocked by light barriers that we just happen to be passing by reek of plot-building.
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Glorio is ominously evasive about his work. TAKING ALL BETS!!! The true nature of his job is:
1 - Something really questionable, like an assassin or personal minion to King Gomah. He can't say it because then Goku and Kaioshin wouldn't trust him.
2 - Something really embarrassing, like King Gomah's pillow fluffer. He can't say it because he wants these guys to take him seriously as a mysterious shonen badass.
This being Dragon Ball, it could go either way.
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That Kaioshin too comes from Makai retroactively adds an interesting layer to how fearful he was of Dabra back in the Buu arc. Like.
Before, the context was just that this guy is the strongest guy in all the known realities. He's the ruler of Makai and he makes the mortal realm's strongest, Frieza, look like weak-ass horseshit by comparison. Kaioshin, a legendary super god whose very existence was considered mythical by gods, knew of him by reputation. And what he knew was that this guy is the most to be feared.
But with the new Daimakai lore, Kaioshin was actually one of Dabra's subjects once upon a time. His fear of Dabra isn't reputational; He grew up under Dabra and knows what he's capable of.
And then, one day, he saw Dabra made a puppet to Babidi and brought to the mortal realm. To revive Majin Buu.
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Between "Everyone's turned into children again and can't use their abilities effectively anymore" and "The air in Daimakai is super heavy and makes everything sluggish", there's a lot of nerfs in play right now.
It makes sense. They want to do a big RPG fantasy adventure starting from level 1 but with a cast who can sneeze too hard and accidentally break seven universes. There's an effort on display here to try and avoid the "Goten and Trunks are menaced by the STRONGEST SNAKE IN THE UNIVEEEEEEEEERSE" problem that DBS (and GT and often the Z anime, for that matter) had.
Characters don't need to constantly forget that they can fly and teleport and shoot galaxy-crushing super-beams if you bake in a reason why they can't do those things right now.
That said....
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Kaioshin ain't kidding. This is moving slow. We're fifteen minutes into a twenty-three minute episode. Apart from the briefest possible altercation with bandits we didn't even get to fight, all we've done is sit in the plane while Glorio reads off entries from the Daimakai Fandom Wiki to us.
Toei, I said this in episode 1 and I'll reiterate: You don't need to write like you're giving the manga space to get ahead.
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Riveting stuff. I am on the edge of my seat for Glorio staring into the camera and monotonously explaining Makai #3's geology.
I'm sure this is being established so that it can come up in an interesting way later down the road. I'm just saying, there are better ways to convey information to your audience than by having a character emotionlessly read worldbuilding entries from the Story Bible for 3/4 of an episode.
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Robbing the hotel manager that was trying to extort them is the first interesting thing we've seen Glorio do so far. Particularly interesting is his holstered gun, which he used to abruptly cut the bandit attack short a moment ago so he could resume explaining the lore.
It's easy to overlook as an American, given that everyone and their dog seems to have seven different firearms stored under their pillow, on the kitchen table, in the baby's crib, wherever. But having a gun in Japan is a Big Fucking Deal.
So that is certainly interesting.
But at this point, this character certainly has me waiting for the other shoe to drop. He is so deadly serious. There has to be a punchline coming. The ending credits seem to imply that he's got like a little sister or something that will be joining us and I can't wait to meet her because I bet she's going to take the wind out of his sails hard.
Right now, he feels like a straight man in search of an absurd counterpart to bounce jokes off him. Goku and Kaioshin are too busy bouncing jokes off each other to do that.
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Ahhh, Toei loves "Big Eater Goku" jokes.
Fortunately, we're far enough removed from everyone constantly popping a Senzu that Goku having his huge appetite back won't constitute a plot hole.
That was a big deal in the Z anime, which pretty much abandoned the "Eating a Senzu means Goku won't need to eat a truckload of food for a full week" rule immediately so they could keep doing Truckload of Food jokes.
But as long as we keep Goku an entire reality away from Senzu, Toei can do as many Truckload of Food gags as they want without adversely affecting the show's consistency.
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...I want a Makai hamburger now.
What is the beef made of? Do they have cows in Makai? I bet they have demon cows. Fire-breathing demon cows.
Hey, Exposition Guy, tell me about the fire-breathing demon cows. Can we go fight one?
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Oh, Goku had the same question.
...shit, it's probably people. Aww.
That won't bother Goku, though. He is entirely comfortable with cooking and eating sapient beings. I mean, he didn't eat Cymbal, but he was party to it.
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YOU, SIR, ARE A WOLF
I know we've established that having pointy ears means you're from Makai. But that man is a wolf. His ear pointiness is entirely incidental and a product of being animal people.
I don't think he's from here. I think he's a fake Majin. I think Earthling animal people are sneaking over here and pretending to be locals.
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Goku barfighting local thugs while trying to enjoy his demonburgers is the best part of the episode. Especially for how few fucks Glorio gives about this.
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He did a little bit of the fighting to get the action scene started. But then he was just like:
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"Ehh, naptime. You guys are on your own."
It's a super fun action sequence, though. Again, the nerfs really help with making a "Goku gets attacked by ruffians" not feel out-of-place. The groundwork has been laid for why Goku can't just punch the air and shockwave them all unconscious in 0.5 seconds flat.
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It also helps that Goku doesn't really seem threatened at all by these guys. Instead, he treats this as a training exercise to help him acclimate his body to the thick Makai #3 atmosphere.
So this isn't just a Random Encounter. There's a legitimate narrative reason for him to be fighting them that's in keeping with Goku's personality and character - and also consequences that the episode promises for next episode, too.
But the stakes and the tension are nonetheless kept at a level that seems appropriate for a fight between Goku and some bar thugs.
This is good. More of this, please.
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kcuf-ad · 2 years ago
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I think it is really funny where we have Dark Naruto fanfiction, there is a 100% of him acting like Sasuke, but in the same fic, it is a Sasuke bashing fic where Sasuke doesn't act anything at all and keeps calling himself "an Uchiha Elite" which doesn't exist in canon and only in fanfiction since they think Sasuke is like Vegeta.
Not to mention the idiotic idea of a civilian council.
Or the fact that Naruto's new outfit is one of the worst changes and if I saw him, I would have straight up laughed if I was in there shoes.
Or him using a sword.
Or the civilians in Konoha acting like people in the village hidden in the Sand.
Or that stupid usage of the amount of Japanese words, I can understand the -kun, -chan, -san, -sama and etc., but not this amount.
Or the fact that characters like Tsunade, Anko, Shizune and Mei want to fuck him when he is only a 12 year old (Seriously WTF?).
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