#ur example: how quickly ppl were to accept loki as a sympathetic character and his stans as good stans(tm)
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"So many redemption arcs dont work as effectively as zukos"
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"...bc so many of the ppl they try to redeem are guilty of far worse crimes than trying to kidnap someone haha just silly antics thats all zuko was guilty of UwU"
1) that's not how redemption arcs work you fucking baffoon
2) zuko was trying to capture a 12 year old deliver him to someone who would probably keep him as an immobilized and isolated prisioner for the rest of his life, and he definitely tried to kill that 12 year olds friends and also burned down an entire village among other things eifjskw what fucking show did you watch????
3) zukos arc worked bc he was much more of a sympthetic and ineffectual villain than azula yeah, but it also worked bc he was a secondary protagonist so we got to spend time with him and sympathize with him, it worked bc it was well-written and before stupidass arbitrary fandom moralizing like this. If atla was out to day fans would almost certainly be more harsh on him than they were when the series was out (and in fact, I have seen posts where that has already happened fkdjdjsk)
#how come 'good redemption arcs' (even in the hypothetical!!) are conviently only for characters op likes#and 'bad redemption arcs' (again#even in the hypothetical realm)#always convientently include 'characters i dont like'#ur example: how quickly ppl were to accept loki as a sympathetic character and his stans as good stans(tm)#sure his writing got better but he didnt like..#change as a person; our perception did#fandom wank#fandom meta#atla#madcap rants#atla wank#villain wank#villain discourse#ppl who say this shit are the same ppl who call ace a 'goofy crime man' even tho he tried to murder 2 kindergarteners#how sympathetic a character is can be really arbitrary and have a lot to do with our biases and no one wants to fucking cop to it
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