#uhh tl;dr upper wattle gully but its the 50s and fantasy in the sense that im more about the aesthetic than social commentary lol
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isaacathom · 5 years ago
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i have also yet to decide where approximately TDoDAN takes place
part of me wants to say Ironside Utah because thats a funny callback to a dream about a fucking audio only burger bar, but also i know negative content about utah. i know nothing about utah. i know less than nothing about utah. how the fuck could i set a detective story in utah yall.
i mean shit i cant really set it anywhere in the us because i dont goddamn live here and i mean shit you want me to set a murder mystery in melbournes outer east? again? again in the outer east? it wouldnt have even been melbourne at the time either, like where im at now was fucking cow paddocks (still is yo we got cows and horses in lysterfield. i saw two emus at a farm in kilsyth). aint nothing city suburban bout it.
ok i went off on one and started googling cars and roads so uh sorry
okay i say that but when the wikipedia says it was ‘founded in 1880′ i dont know what that specifically means for ‘this was considered part of the city of melbourne’ nor so i have a fuck of a clue how long it wouldve taken to drive from a city apartment (like, cbd and shit) to ftg in like. fuck. when are most detective novels set. like the 50s? how fast was ya car in the 50s. w
literally all i have learnt so far is that norton probably owns a holden and that being called ‘westbrook’ and ‘norton’ is fucking ironic for a dude raised in the south east. god dammit alexis.
yea i have no fucking idea how to begin to calculate the time itd take to get from the cbd to a ftg approximation (we can use Upper Wattle Gully again if we want :3c) back in the 50s. even if i have a specific car. 
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on that note aint this a cute car. I’m torn on whether Alexis would have a coupe (thats what this is, a holden coupe/ute from the late 40s/early 50s) or if they’d have the 4 door passenger version of the same car. cause like they live on their own. they don’t need a car with 4 seats. but at the same time, it probably would not hurt to have the extra 2 seats for if they need to cart around police officers and shit while on the job. 
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which means you get this fucking puppy instead. v nice. plus it fits the genre bc the first holden cars were based on chevvy designs so this basically Looks like the sorta of cars everyones fucking driving in 50s stories set in america. im like 40% of the way there, yknow.
i have still yet to find out how fast this car went nyoom nyoom down the fucking highway. not that we HAD a goddamn highway at the time, right, we basically got that i 2008 w/ eastlink. jesus christ. ok so the general gist is the urban speed limit was 30-35 mph (fucking god dammit). i say 30-35 because it is unclear when vic changed to 30. i am also very unclear, again, if ftg and that area counted as fucking urban. because noone wants to spell this shit out for me, i guess, lol. if it wasnt urban then the speed limits like, 60mph, which is pretty nice. i think for the sake of safety we’ll assuuuume the speedlimit was l30mph, or uhhhhh 60km? no, 50, ok so 50kmph.
which is great but that means the cbd is only like. half an hour from ftg. which isnt even fucking true NOW, because eastlink sucks ass. admittedly im looking at this at 5pm, aka THE WORST TIME TO LOOK FOR TRAFFIC TIMES, but you get the point.
ok so if i /assume/ that dandenong rd and the princes hwy were around, thats still only like. an hour odd? to travel? for the distance from ‘the CBD’ to my own ass house. odd. i guess. also did you know we named the Princes after Edward, Prince of Wales, aka the one motherfucker who abdicated the one time? wild. history makes fools of us all. wait, hold on. no i think w’re good. im.... pretty sure the princes was in the spot it needs to be for alexis to travel south east on it then take a hard left into the burbs. i guess the reaaaaall question is whether ftg road was there. which i cannot find bc noone gives a fuck about state route 22
‘state route 7 terminates in knoxfield’ youre not... wrong? but youre also being VERY specific with wording considering state route 7 literally makes up the border bw knoxfield and ftg and terminates at a fucking dog park but i mean Go off, right, go off.
okay calling both ftg road and burwood hwy part of route 22 is also not wrong but jesus christ right, jeeeesus christ. boof. oof my dudes. oof.
wait was burwood hwy around. thats like. a direct line from the cbd to the suburbs. i say ‘like’ it literally is a direct road from the cbd to the eastern suburbs. i guess google just doesnt like that one lmao, far dukes.
okay so what im getting from this abrupt spate of frantic googling about cars and roads is that if i did set dodan in melbourne, itd take probably around an hour for alexis to drive their holden fx from the cbd to the outer eastern suburbs, mostly taking the princes, bc the other roads weren’t fucking built yet dude its the 50s. i say roooughly an hour bc the distance thing is hard to gauge, the speed is also tough to fucking figure out, and im assuming the roads are shit once you leave the princes. they still are shit sometimes, thats just how it be. it feels about right. and based on how i feel like the cbd is Pretty Far Away, I feel like the citizens of Upper Wattle Gully in 1952 would also consider it Pretty Fucking Far. it still comes across weird for Alexis to move to the inner city and literally never visit but thats because Alexis is a jackass (and also, mood, i would do the same thing)
i think that works??? sure. i dont know what the fuck it was like in melbourne in the 50s but i am The Bitch in charge, and i can do what i want, and if that means having a black lady run Halligans Pub in the south east of melbourne in the 50s, than yall have to accept that as just like, a Fact. the best investigator in the UWG branch of the police is a woman in her mid 20s named Moira? best fucking believe it bud. The protagonist is a nonbinary private detective? what the fuck of it. its fantasy. i do what i want. the setting is only loosely based on SE Melbourne in the 50s, fuck if its even australia mate, i do what i want. bite me, yknow? its great
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