#ugh... Yana... XD

[hellbubu]

Ugh, its awful. I need to mask SO hard whenever I'm home. I explained to mom about my social battery and now she uses that expression alllll the timeee....but she doesn't seem to realize I'm including *her* too, in the 'people that tire me out' category ¬¬ She gets mad I go to bed late, but it's the only time of peace and quiet where i can do stuff without noise and interruptions from others! Usually when im alone im a depressed useless lump half of the day, but the need to mask with a smile and answer and interact and be *cute* is just so engraved in me i do it automatically and it never ends *cries* Sorry for the rant lol (also, im too tired to write correctly so sorry for that)

Derrick forcing the others to play bad and Red house losing AND redmond not noticing would be hilariousssss

Oh, man, imagine a teen movie with this plot xDDD I'd watch the hell outta that!

Ikr!! Like, WHO kills someone to supossedly 'solve a problem' and immediately goes 'and bringing them back will solve everything! Like, why ?? If getting rid of him was the solution, why bring him/them back...??? Ugh, teenage boys. La edad del pavo, indeed.

Gaaahhh, imagine Druitt being a friend of the LM. *shivers* I mean, it makes sense? All these pervs seem to run in the same circles...(although LM has the 'easiest' option of taking what he wants from helpless children 24/7 9 months of the year, and the security of them not being brave enough to tell anyone or being able to scape. Imagine the nightmare of having caught the eye of that creep, blergh.)

Fr, fr, we se Seb, LM, UT and....one more teacher? For such a 'prestigious' institution, the education sure seems lacking (this is why they send the royal brats off to Eton lmao)

Right, right???? They should have totally manage to escape! And we weren't shown any more violence or blood or ANYTHING. So what. happened. (Also, I imagined Violet with the knifes cause there's no way he'd be able to take on two guys lol. Poisoned darts would work as well, Dementia!)

asjdhakjafhsdkjfshd, I've seen all kind of theories! Still, all I know is that UT is obssessed with Phantomhives but somehow doesn't care about killing Ciel OR about who slaughtered them. (Alsoooooo....if UT was able to save r!ciel's body before seb burned the body...does this mean he was there??? inside the house where they were torturing the boys??? for how long????? why didnt he save them????)

Poor Joanne. Truly, a hellish year. *tu-tush!* Also, he was probably so relieved about the canoe incident since people would talk more about that than him...only to end up pissing himself in front of the others. ALSO! Was he even made prefect?? Like, i saw a post about him being too young and being passed over, which would MAJORLY suck, since the other prefects are the only people he can talk about that night with. But the blurry red house prefect we see is blonde so idk. (I bet you he joined the boyband purely out of pettiness to fuck the P4 over. Im sure the others -except Soma, poor clueless baby- joined for the same reasons lol)

Awww, that's so cute! And a totally worthy endeveour for a 2nd son to invest in! FU r!ciel (i wanna like you, bb, but the fandom hasnt given me much hopes about you and i still have to read the manga)

SPEAKING of that. Yana went on hiatus!!!! I'm in despair.

Victoria being mad jealous of Claudia over UT would be hilarious. Basic in a 'powerful-women-can-only-be-enemies' kinda way; but hialrious.

I DO feel that if she did order it would have made more sense to 'save' the twins (or at least one) and earn their devotion? Give them a false enemy to burn and keep using them as her loyal dogs. But if she gave the order to erradicate the family completely someone fucked up MAJORLY. I bet heads rolled xD

A shift in power would make sense...but how? An Earl is a looong way from the crown (and with her many children and even grandkids!?). Maybe she started something supernatural over Albert's death? And Vincent found out? Questions, questions.

Beso <3

Constant social interactions are the worst especially when you can't be yourself. Having to act like you're someone else is tiring and you should really get some rest. Like not just sleep or be alone for a bit, but take some days to actually properly recharge, if possible.

He wouldn't force them to play badly during the tournament, only during practice... or at least I hope so. The Red House getting beaten by the Blue House because of Derrick does sound fun tho.

I think that the previous P4 took all the brain cells when they left. Otherwise, why would they 1. think that killing a bunch of boys was a good solution and 2. think that bringing the boys that they killed back to life was a good idea?

Druitt and the LM are both pedos, but I think Druitt would think he's better than LM because he (Druitt) has a title, is a doctor, and gets away with buying and selling kids. LM has to watch in the shadows as boys are beaten, while Druitt goes and kidnaps kids to sell. Druitt thinks LM is in a league waaaayy lower than him. He doesn't seem to even realize LM can do as much as he does (well, maybe not the selling part) and not even be found out. He (LM) brings it up once but Druitt is too busy salivating over a boy (Ciel in a cheap wig and different clothes) to pay attention.

I like to think that the bullies have never been held at knifepoint, so when Violet pulls out one, singular, butter knife they freak out and think Violet will manage to kill them. Meanwhile, Violet is just stabbing air and swinging his knife around while praying that they'll back off so Greenhill can kill them.

Maybe he got there just after Sebastian was summoned or something. He thought "holy shit, if he (Sebastian) knows I'm here, he might just eat the other twin. I need to keep quiet so I can still the other's body. I'll bring him back to life so they can play happy family later."

I think I might like R!Ciel if I read the manga. Alas, I can't. But O!Ciel would always be my fave twin. He's always been so kind. <3

I heard she's working on the ending. I do think it might take a few years for it to end tho. I feel like there's still too many questions for it to end soon. I'm not a manga reader, but even I know that there's still quite a bit left until they start to unravel the Phantomhive murders. Like, the current arc might lead to the final one, but from what I understand SebaCiel have yet to meet UT&R!Ciel again and are on their honeymoon... so quite a while still

Maybe Claudia fucked her over and Vincent was about to too, so she'd rather just get rid of them all. We know she doesn't trust O!Ciel because she had the Charles follow him during the Circus Arc. So it might not be too far-fetched to think that many of the previous Guard Dogs have turned against the crown at one point or another and she might've wanted to start over with a cleaner slate.

I mean, maybe Vincent just saw something he really didn't like and was willing to fuck England over. Let drugs freely on the streets and sell secrets regarding England. But I could be wrong. He does have this dude called Chlaus as an informant and this guy travels a lot. So, if Vincent were to try to fuck shit up and then make a run for it with the help of Chlaus but the Queen finds out...

Besitos :* :*

[chibimyumi]

I completely forgot how creepy Nina Hopkins used to be when she first appeared. Do you think Yana is fixing another mistake? Because in last chapter Nina is still being creepy but it's more like she's too excited to notice Meyrin discomfort. Or is this just me trying to be positive?

【Response to: Man!Greller Debunking Series, header 6】

【Relevant post: Yana and Grell, Owning up to Mistakes】

Dear Anon,

I think there is too little information to be able to tell whether Yana is trying to fix the mistake of portraying a gay woman as a molester (with strong pedophilic undertones), but judging from the material there is, I would say it is possible that Yana is trying, but that if she is, her efforts are not as clear as what she has been trying to do for Grell and for Chinese characters.

Please allow me to explain why I think so.

Character Introduction

First, let us look at the main points about Nina, and how she was established. When we first get introduced to Yana, the first impression we have of her is a predatory gay woman who has zero regards for other people’s personal space or consent.

Except for just molesting Meyrin’s breasts and thighs, when working for O!Ciel she also just ripped his clothes apart. Sure, she did not make any attempts to touch him further, but ripping someone’s clothes from their body just like that is a move that stems from lack of respect for someone else’s body.

On top of her lack of respect for others’ bodily autonomy, Nina is also a raging sexist and hides behind the shield of #FEMINISM, and likewise has no regard for the feelings of likewise her customers (Finny and Bard).

This of course is played for laughs, but that does not justify this #FeM!NIsT action... [please click here for more about female sexism for laughs.]

By the time that Nina was introduced, we were already familiar with a character who is actually rather similar to her... the Viscount of Druitt.

The Viscount of Druitt is the first character to be established as someone who has “unrestrained libido”, and we also learned that touching a young child whom he acknowledges to be too young is fine according to him.

The Viscount is a gag character, his ‘threat’ was placed solely on the fact that he partook in human trafficking, and his pedophilic action was entirely unaddressed. Considering Yana’s job history, we can also assume this was a problem she did not see as something that had to be addressed.

This confirmed that the creator is comfortable with an adult advancing on children, and the Viscount together with the clear Seba/Ciel baiting served to “warm us up” for the concept of shota-con.

So by the time Nina makes her entrance and proclaims to be only interested in women AND boys under the age of fifteen, the manga probably expected its already-warmed-up readers to assume that ‘to be interested in’ refers to a sexual way considering how she pounced for Meyrin the moment she saw her.

Homosexual people are being associated with predatory pedophiles, because homosexual are deemed to have ‘unrestrained libido’... this all is the result of the slippery slope argumentation fallacy... “‘same sex love?’ What about animals? What about children!” (FoxNews’ favourite ( ^ v ~ ))

In Kuroshitsuji so far there have only been two characters who are confirmed to not be straight, and thus it is rather unfortunate that both of them are weirdly okay with being “interested” in children.

Second Appearance

By Nina’s second appearance she has not molested anybody, so I would say there is improvement that in the least she did not commit sexual assault. But sadly ‘not groping someone’ is hardly enough to redeem a character. Otherwise her raging sexism still hasn’t improved an inch.

But considering how she is a super minor character, we cannot expect Yana to suddenly drop her “iconic #RagingFeMin!iSt behaviour” without giving her a semblance of a redemption arc. As her sexist behaviour is basically the trait she is now known by, I would say we probably won’t see it disappear in future. But as long as she is not groping anybody, I personally can live with her. I don’t LIKE it, but I can live with it.

Third Appearance

When Nina makes her third appearance she is still just the same #RagingFeMin!iSt, but she has not touched anybody unsolicited. So here too the ‘improvement’ from her second appearance has at least not been undone.

****TLN: I retranslated this line because in the scanlation I found, it was wrongly translated. The mistranslation said “as usual, it’s refreshing to an extent to ignore you.” This is not Sebastian saying he wants to ignore Nina, it’s him showing his dismay at being ignored thoroughly again.

Latest Appearance

In Nina’s latest appearance she does show some clear disdain for Sebastian, but here too she does not grope Meyrin. Although you could say that flirting with somebody you had just met with such proximity is a bit rude, this too is forgivable as long as this is where she stops.

Difference between Nina, Grell and Chinese characters

The main difference between why Yana’s attempts at fixing her mistake in her portrayal of transgender people and Chinese people work is the timeline.

In this latest portrayal of Nina, the timeline is set in the past. Because we have confirmation that in future Nina would grope Meyrin, none of Nina’s mistakes have been ‘compensated for’. Nina going from relative restrain to sexually aggressive can easily be understood as Nina’s fondness for Meyrin having grown over time, after all. Hence, Nina’s problematic portrayal has not been fixed, and neither has the connection between ‘homosexuals and predatory pedophiles’ been broken... i.e. no character growth.

Nina’s ‘more acceptable behaviour’ is different to Grell’s in function. Grell had made a grave mistake in the past. But later when she had her appearance, all her controlled behaviour was shown as the result of her disciplinary confinement and self-reflection. Therefore the audience knows that her terrible behaviour is probably left in the past for good. 【Click here for full analysis】i.e. Character growth!🎉

As for Chinese characters. Meyrin’s ‘problematic portrayal’ was that when she was introduced she was pretty useless and spoke Chinglish. Later it was confirmed that Meyrin is not bad at English at all, but that her Chinglish was in fact a choice. Perhaps a front that she had put up as a professional choice considering her current job as Phantomhive sniper. 【Click here and here for the full explanation】

Lau was portrayed as a clown character, accompanied by your #SexualisedKungfuChinaGirl Ranmao, and he seemed to fulfill no other role than comic relief... a role Chinese characters often fulfill in both Japanese and Western media.

Later in the Mansion Murder arc however, we got a pretty solid confirmation that Lau was not in fact a clown, and was switching between masks to fool others. Then in the Public School arc, we got undeniable confirmation that Lau would use British people’s stereotypes against British people to get things done.

Then in his latest ‘cameo’ in chapter 159, we got yet another undeniable confirmation that Lau is not just not a clown, but in fact a man so fearsome, so powerful he managed to scare a respected syndicate leader in London. We now know that the two Chinese people we thought to be useless Chinglish speakers at first are both terribly dangerous, potent people.

Conclusion

While in-real-world timeline wise, these #problematic characters all have improved behaviour or acceptable explanations as for their past behaviours, I would say the problem of Nina’s character has not been fixed because of the in-story timeline.

While Grell, Lau and Meyrin’s problems are effectively left in the past through story-telling and potent writing of Yana, for Nina the same cannot be said. 

I hope this helps! (*´｀*)ノ

[littlebratciel]

OH TM FUCKING GOOODDDD DID U SEE THE NEW SPOILERS OF THE LATEST BB CHAPTER? HOLY FUCKONG SHIIKTTTTT FUUUCUCJCKCKKC THOUGHTS?

I’m just worried about the name, I want eyepatch!Ciel to keep that name, that’s all!

Jk.. xD

Now really, there’s not much more than unanswered questions so far, we have to wait for the entire chapter, but ugh.. I just hope Yana won’t skip to another thing at the beginning, I’d like to know what all that ‘’unfortunately I cannot lie’’ thing in the previous chapter was about!

[littlebratciel]

Holy shit the latest chapter aaaaaa so many cliffhangers I hate it XD now I'm like pretty sure it's his twin or brother or something but ugh I'm so excited and scared, what do u think ciel meant when he asked Sebastian that, tho we'll have to wait another month to see what it really is haha :P

I’m mostly scared here anon (gosh it’s hard to see Ciel so nervous!) 

I got no idea why he asked Sebastian that, and I really hope in the next chapter Yana won’t cut to another scene with Bravat or something leaving that conversation forgotten as she usually does

BUT

that’s exactly what’s gonna happen probably! >.