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thrown-away-opinions · 10 months ago
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Reading up on some drama in the RPG community (not directly related to D&D this time) and getting the worst kind of deja vu. Stop me if you've heard this one before:
A clique of extremely mentally ill people with a history of being lying, backstabbing shitheads weasel their way into positions of power, fame, and authority within a community, even though none of them have actually produced anything worth a damn. Luckily they've got enough friends who will promote and glorify them as the most important people in the industry and protect them from public scrutiny on sites like reddit and twitter, that they never face any meaningful consequences for their actions, because it's more important that everyone listen and believe women and minorities, even when it's other women and minorities pushing back against them.
This was orchestrated through a few secret groups and forums that the public wasn't privy to and passed down through various useful idiots who would repeat the fabrications and spin, because they were told to. The inner circle of aimless psychos who guided these little crusades were mostly just enjoying the power trip more than having any sort of agenda, but publicly they'd claim it was about promoting diversity and intersectionality, etc etc.
Also, years after, even with most people still believing the various openly disproven lies and rumors started by well-known malicious psychopaths, people admit they knew it was wrong, but didn't want to "give the other side ammo" because they didn't want anyone to turn on them in the same way...
And a ton of people involved in this shit are or were SomethingAwful goons.
Where have I heard that shit before?
I might do a longer post about this later, but if you're curious, I'm taking about this excessively long medium post called "The Worst People You Have Never Met, or, What I Learned During A Four Year Academic Study of Online Harassment In The Dungeons & Dragons Community" which is mostly about the Zak Smith/Sabbath incident from a few years back and goes into exhaustive specifics that repeatedly amount to a bunch of people lying about one guy, who is by all accounts an exceedingly loyal ally to lefty/queer beliefs, being a sexpest and rapist and abuser. Mostly because a clique of queer personalities in the RPG community decided he deserved it and they were entitled to destroy him. Then the author of the article interviewed them about it and every single one of them admits it was bullshit and they were just making stuff up to be angry about and none of their claims had receipts.
The post itself is long to the point of being comical and the author has a lot of trouble disengaging what has likely been a decade or more of ideological conditioning. She'll sometimes go off on tangents about incels and how unthinkable it is to her that anyone would weaponize feminism and rape accusations for personal gain. But it's an interesting read if you just scroll past those sections. You'll probably need to in order to get through the damned thing in a reasonable time.
I don't really care about Zak. I was never personally invested in his story or the accusations that were leveled at him. Even when it was happening, my vague read of the situation from a distant vantage was that a guy surrounded himself with unstable SJW-types and then they turned on one of their own, as they often do. Turns out that was more or less right.
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thezfc · 5 years ago
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IF true, the hiding is even more ridiculous when you remember the twatgate and their lovey dovey paparazzi circus in UK, US, Australia and Italy. He goes super public for a PR romance and hides a real relationship as if she's a dirty mistress. From I ❤TS to I 🙈ZA. Pathetic, especially for a man his age.
Well we all know he regrets the SOT and that’s why he’s acting this way but this is some ridiculous extreme.
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paradigmshiftdocs4u · 8 years ago
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#TWATgate Baby Gonna Cry by paradigm-shifting
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offbeatorbit · 12 years ago
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So peroxides was talking about how Americans say twat oddly and suggested that ppl share how they say it to see how strange it sounds so this is my contribution ♡
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thezfc · 5 years ago
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Probably unpopular opinion but I don't want Tom to be in Ripley, he had his chance with TNM and he fucked up everything with the twatgate. He took a stupid decision and now he has to deal with it. His only way to make publicity is to pretend or let the rumours fly that he's dating his co-star now. He must not pollute AScott's Ripley. Actors like Lee Pace, Sebastian Stan or Matt Bomer should play Dickie, not Tom.
So how long should he “pay” for his stupid decision? Is 3 years not long enough?
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paradigmshiftdocs4u · 8 years ago
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#TWATgate Anonymous Transparent BG by paradigm-shifting
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thrown-away-opinions · 10 months ago
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In the last couple days, people tried circulating the rumor that the whole 90+ page article was fake, which is why it was taken down, and then Olivia Hill and several others confirmed they talked to her, admitted that they said all the things they were quoted as saying, but are attempting to discredit the whole thing for being accurate to what they said, but being dishonest or lacking in journalistic ethics (lmao), because it factually states the things they said to a woman who identified herself as a researcher doing research on harassment in the TTRPG community, but doesn't make them look good and sides with the person they admitted to lying about.
Add that to the list of shit we've seen before: When caught, guilty party points the finger at the accuser for vague reasons, but doesn't deny or otherwise discredit the accusations.
Looks like it's being labeled as #DungeonDrama or #TwatGate but the odds of it catching on are low. Few people cared about Zak Smith to begin with, and fewer people know who most of the obnoxious assholes named in the medium post are.
Reading up on some drama in the RPG community (not directly related to D&D this time) and getting the worst kind of deja vu. Stop me if you've heard this one before:
A clique of extremely mentally ill people with a history of being lying, backstabbing shitheads weasel their way into positions of power, fame, and authority within a community, even though none of them have actually produced anything worth a damn. Luckily they've got enough friends who will promote and glorify them as the most important people in the industry and protect them from public scrutiny on sites like reddit and twitter, that they never face any meaningful consequences for their actions, because it's more important that everyone listen and believe women and minorities, even when it's other women and minorities pushing back against them.
This was orchestrated through a few secret groups and forums that the public wasn't privy to and passed down through various useful idiots who would repeat the fabrications and spin, because they were told to. The inner circle of aimless psychos who guided these little crusades were mostly just enjoying the power trip more than having any sort of agenda, but publicly they'd claim it was about promoting diversity and intersectionality, etc etc.
Also, years after, even with most people still believing the various openly disproven lies and rumors started by well-known malicious psychopaths, people admit they knew it was wrong, but didn't want to "give the other side ammo" because they didn't want anyone to turn on them in the same way...
And a ton of people involved in this shit are or were SomethingAwful goons.
Where have I heard that shit before?
I might do a longer post about this later, but if you're curious, I'm taking about this excessively long medium post called "The Worst People You Have Never Met, or, What I Learned During A Four Year Academic Study of Online Harassment In The Dungeons & Dragons Community" which is mostly about the Zak Smith/Sabbath incident from a few years back and goes into exhaustive specifics that repeatedly amount to a bunch of people lying about one guy, who is by all accounts an exceedingly loyal ally to lefty/queer beliefs, being a sexpest and rapist and abuser. Mostly because a clique of queer personalities in the RPG community decided he deserved it and they were entitled to destroy him. Then the author of the article interviewed them about it and every single one of them admits it was bullshit and they were just making stuff up to be angry about and none of their claims had receipts.
The post itself is long to the point of being comical and the author has a lot of trouble disengaging what has likely been a decade or more of ideological conditioning. She'll sometimes go off on tangents about incels and how unthinkable it is to her that anyone would weaponize feminism and rape accusations for personal gain. But it's an interesting read if you just scroll past those sections. You'll probably need to in order to get through the damned thing in a reasonable time.
I don't really care about Zak. I was never personally invested in his story or the accusations that were leveled at him. Even when it was happening, my vague read of the situation from a distant vantage was that a guy surrounded himself with unstable SJW-types and then they turned on one of their own, as they often do. Turns out that was more or less right.
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