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agreyrose ¡ 10 months ago
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“Taylor Swift doesn’t have any queer themes in her lyrics”
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“Oh muse, let’s run away together to a place where I can keep you safe and we can be free to be together away from everybody who would want to keep us apart. A place different and far away from here where everyone hunts us and tears us away from each other because they don’t understand our love. Come with me, muse, to a faraway fantasy land where there is no media, no paparazzi, and the only people who live there are gentle and clever, and they DO understand because they’re like us.”
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lipslikethegardensofbabylon ¡ 10 months ago
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#ttpd analysis day fourteen - The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
i'm gonna be honest with you this was the hardest song to dissect because every time i listen to it the bridge makes me lose my mind. it has the same addictive pull as the bridge of Would've, Could've, Should've, Cruel Summer, Getaway Car. it's SO good, imo one of her best bridges ever written.
i first want to comment on in your Jehovah's Witness suit which is again another lol-lyric moment, but in a big brain connection i saw that @thisisctrying pointed out that he was essentially selling her a religion. i love this bc it continues the religious imagery of Guilty As Sin?
you hung me on your wall, stabbed me with your push pins makes me think of a couple of different things - image wise, it makes me think of pinning a map up on a wall, marking places that you’ve been (also a hint of carve your name into my bedpost ≠ i'm just a notch in your bedpost, but you're just a line in a song (from FOB)). it also makes me think of pierced through the heart but never killed. the other connection that comes up is to “put a pin in it” means to save something for later, typically to postpone something useful but not for immediate use. this meaning feels more likely given the subsequent were you a sleeper cell spy? in fifty years, will all this be declassified?
the bridge just goes so hard, I’m obsessed. there are a few callbacks to previous work but to me this bridge is on mtr echelon:
the betrayal in did you sleep with a gun underneath our bed? is so good. esp given how she historically describes her bed/room as a safe space - turned my bed into a sacred oasis/drew a map on your bedroom ceiling/the warmest bed I’ve ever known
the gun weapon of choice is also interesting to me considering she’s also discussed daggers and poison, and a gun specifically has to be loaded. it makes me think of memories feel like weapons/we gather stones, never knowing what they'll mean, some to throw, some to make a diamond ring
the line were you writing a book? IMMEDIATELTY made me think of so I'll go back to L.A. and the so-called friends who'll write books about me, if I ever make it which is especially painful i think for the narrator. they’ve historically said “I struggle a lot with the idea that my life has become unmanageably sized,” she continued. “Not to sound too dark, but I just struggle with the idea of not feeling like a person.” and this lyric does exactly that - it reduces the person to a product, a story to be sold for a profit.
to end, the lyric and in plain sight you hid but you are what you did and I'll forget you, but I'll never forgive gives me such chills. i saw someone share that they had a history of abuse and that lyric made them feel so validated. there’s just something so haunting and angry but beautiful about it.
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that-was-a-bit-stupid-of-you ¡ 11 months ago
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I don't understand, what's going on with Taylor and Matt trash being a couple? Could you explain to me?
nothing is really going on at the moment tbh, cuz they broke up a pretty long while ago, but the issue is the album (if that's what you're referring to) and taylor swift herself.
[will add sources and more stuff when I find the links and if I realise I missed something out, cuz this is a general thing based off of memory]
Context: dating history
Basically she and matty had been friends for a few years (there are rumors of them hooking up ig in 1989 era maybe, but I don't really care enough to believe shit like that). Apparently he had also been pining for her (according to stuff he said in interviews and tweets) for years, but again, you can still chalk it up to rumors if you wanna.
The thing is that post her breakup with joe alwyn, she started dating him (in like april I think) [there had been dating rumors of them since 2014 tho, and again in March 2023] and the fandom kinda got divided.
Here is the link to their entire timeline
Context: what matty healy did
Matty healy (you prolly know this) is basically racist, sexist, antisemitic, homophobic and God knows what else I have missed out or not been aware of. He did shit like doing the nazi gesture on stage, mocking asian accents, tastelessly making fun of ice spice on her race and bodyshaming her, laughing and basically confirming that he watches violent rape porn of black women on a site that is known to be highly problematic and force their actors (gender neutral) to do things they dont consent to (there was also an actress who was assaulted or something but im not informed on it). Even when he was called out on stuff like this, he accused people (who were poc, btw) of overreacting.
Context: taylor and activism
Taylor had also, in the past (lover era, and miss Americana the doc) had talked about how she had been too quiet about political issues and politics itself for too long, that she understands her influence and power in society, and that she "needs to be on the right side of history" and even specifics such as that she thinks it's spineless to go on stage and say "happy pride month" and not acknowledge the political oppression that queers in USA were facing (something about a bill or the republican party idk man I'm not american, i dont remember but i did research when i watched the doc tho). She has claimed she was gonna be clear about where she stands (many republicans had considered her to be one, and many thought she's conservative or something, but she was always quiet about it, until the lover era). However, she just stopped that activism after the lover era, and went back to being quiet on where she stands (I've seen many swifties refer to the lover era as the activism era) and hasn't spoken about anything substantial really. She did some things like post a black square with 13 hearts during blm, and stuff that every celeb who wasn't openly a pos did, but that's kinda it. Even as a self proclaimed feminist, she didn't speak up on issues such as roe v wade, or about an issue regarding drag queens despite having them in yntcd, or talking about trans/queer rights until she was in a blue state (im not an American, I just like to keep up a little with stuff in usa cuz it's always up in my face sadly, and thus i cant be specific, but anyways, correct me if I'm wrong, or if I missed something).
So even after saying she'll be vocal, she was just... not. And that's basically her on politics or giving a shit about minority communities.
Context: Fandom's reaction
Swifties were extremely disappointed that taylor CHOSE to associate with a man like this, and there were fans calling her out, and she received backlash, too.
Most of these swifties were poc (myself included) and they felt hurt that an artist that they not just supported and developed such a deep connection with, but also financially supported for years, would have such disregard for them. Not just was she dating him, but she kept saying things such as "I have never been happier in all aspects of my life" or saying "I love you" or "uk who you are" in romantic songs on the tour, which was just adding insult to injury. She also did a collab with ice spice (which was completely out of nowhere, and the collab itself seemed badly made and rushed), which fans and others speculated to be a pr cover up for the fact that matty healy had mocked her (many ppl also believed that it was too quick for it to be a pr cover tho).
Now, in the fandom, when poc swifties were calling her out on dating mh, (mostly) white swifties started harassing poc swifties for doing so, or saying that they are hindering with her happiness or some bs about it being "just a fling" (again, myself included). They said it's the same as seeing a friend get out of a long-term relationship and make bad dating choices, and poc swifties should let it go (as if taylor is our close personal friend). In a mostly white fandom, poc swifties felt alienated and sidelined.
Ofc, taylor never addressed any of this backlash, and after she broke up with him, there were articles saying that sources say (which mostly means her pr team atp) that her breakup had nothing to do with his controversies or behavior.
The album release (lyrics, references and reaction)
Now, with the release of ttpd, contrary to what most of the fandom believed, most of the songs on both the albums are believed to be (and heavily hinted on) about matty healy. These include 4 songs- "ttpd", "but daddy I love him", "I can fix him (no really I can)", and "guilty as sin?"
Ttpd, the title track, talks about mh being "a tattooed golden retriever" (wtf) and about him love-bombing her, and her pining after him, thinking about marriage and shit. But daddy I love him and I can fix him, are basically that no one supported her dating decision and she's claiming that she loves him oh so goddamn much, but more importantly, her talking about her fans' reactions. Specifically, describing her poc fans to be "vipers" and "judgemental creeps" who hate her and them being hurt as "bitching and moaning", and basically took the side of the (white) fans who defended her, indirectly. She described his racist bs as "crazy" and said shit like she could "handle a dangerous man." She also has another song, "Guilty as sin?" and while I genuinely don't give a fuck about what she chooses to do in her private life, unless it is problematic, it is about her fantasizing about being with that racist man while being in a long term relationship with joe alwyn. She sings about how she wants him and wants to be with him... in multiple ways, iykyk. Again, out of context, I love this song so much, but that doesn't erase the context, right?
She also has a song "I hate it here" where she says the following lines:
"My friends used to play a game where
We would pick a decade
We wished we could live in instead of this
I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists and getting married off for the highest bid"
And while there are many reasons why this line by itself is racist (romantisization of a time that was extremely shitty to many communities, most of which she is not a part of, showing herself to be "oh look I'm so woke I still remember the bad things even when I romanticize bad eras in history" which is something you expect from an ignorant white high schooler maybe, not a 34 y/o billionaire who claims to be well-read, etc.) but taylor swift herself saying these is adding insult to injury cuz she has shown time and time again she has no problem with racism (she kept quiet when antonia gentry, a black actress, received hate and racist threats by swifties because of a line BY NETFLIX that taylor didn't like, and she shouldn't ofc, but it wasn't the actress' fault), or associating herself with them (matty healy, for example). It is hypocritical to write something like that after writing an album about pining after a man and his "dangerousness," which is just bigotry. Way to romanticise racism, sexism, and antisemitism, taylor.
Even now, after listening to the album, she clearly doesn't like mh anymore, NOT because of his actions, but because he broke her heart, showing that she still enables and is okay with everything he did.
And that's kind of it (ig) about her and matty healy. I'm not really sure exactly which part you wanted to know, so this is just a gist of it all. Hope it helps :)
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bookmarksandbonfires ¡ 11 months ago
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All of this talk about @taylorswift's new album is really just proving to me that people have no idea what poetry is??? Like every time I see a post online someone's put in the comments "wow how poetic touch me while your boys play grand theft auto" or "that metaphor is so obvious how can you say her lyrics are poetry" or whatever and like I get it. The Poetry you had to read in high school felt Incomprehensible and you were Bad At Analyzing It. I felt that way too, and I got a degree in literature.
But "Incomprehensible" is not in the definition of poetry. It doesn't need to be endlessly complex with allusions and metaphors you'll never be able to unravel. The Google definition (from the Oxford dictionary) is:
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All poetry has to do is be words that express meaning and have rhythm. (That's basically all songs.) There's nothing in the definition about how you should be unable to parse all the meanings behind it. If you hear a collection of words that make you feel something, that's poetry. It just is.
Or, to quote Wordsworth, poetry is "the spontaneous overflow of powerful feelings," which he believed should be written in plain language, and since there's a heavy Gothic/Romantic strain in Tortured Poets Department, I think it's reasonable we should default to a definition from that school of thought.
Poetry does not have to be incomprehensible to be meaningful. You can feel something because of the specific words in their specific arrangements, or the literary devices utilized, or even just the rhythm in which they are spoken. It doesn't have to have you getting out a dictionary or diagramming the sentences or spending hours trying to guess what the author really means. It can just make you feel.
I don't know if Taylor Swift is the greatest poet of our generation or whatever. But to say her songs aren't poetry because you think you understand them is belittling and reducing poetry to something it never has been.
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veinsglisten ¡ 11 months ago
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I Look in People’s Windows
Peter and cardigan are from Wendy’s perspective.
I Look in People’s Windows is from Peter’s perspective.
“North bound I got carried away
As you boarded your train south”
Peter stays in Neverland while Wendy chooses to leave.
The train imagery echoes Wendy’s perspective in cardigan:
“Cause I knew you
Steppin’ on the last train
Marked me like a bloodstain”
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“A feather taken by the wind blowing
I’m afflicted by the not knowing”
Peter lives in a carefree way in Neverland, oblivious to Wendy’s whereabouts in the real world.
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So when he finally returns to the real world,
he looks in people’s windows in search of Wendy.
Peter is “addicted to the ‘if only’” and “[haunts] all of [Wendy’s] what-ifs”.
Young Peter sees adults having “their friends over to drink nice wine”, hoping grown-up Wendy will look up and meet his eyes one more time.
But little does he know,
she has stopped and tilted her head,
she has stopped waiting for him.
He “tried to change the ending”
but “Peter losing Wendy” has become an inevitable truth.
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With the use of the train imagery in the beginning, the poem can be interpreted as
Peter being on board a train and watching the houses pass by,
“attending Christmas parties from outside”,
in search of Wendy’s warmth
but it’s no longer there
because she thinks Peter is “lost to the lost boys chapter of [his] life”.
Sadly, “the woman who sits by the window has turned out the light”.
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yourgoldennotebook ¡ 10 months ago
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in the winter, in the icy outdoor pool / when you jumped in first, i went in too / i’m with you even if it makes me blue, which takes me back / to the colour we painted your brother’s walls / honey, without the exes, fights and flaws / we wouldn’t be standing here so tall → handcuffed to the spell i was under / for just one hour of sunshine / years of labour, locks, and ceilings / in the shade of how he was feeling
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kaiyakuro ¡ 11 months ago
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I just had the craziest realization while relistening to TTPD, and I HAD to say something...
The two Travis related songs are Track 15 and Track 22.
Taylor has two SONGS TITLED Fifteen and 22!!!
Some of the lyrics in Fifteen:
Well, in your life you'll do things Greater than dating the boy on the football team I didn't know it at fifteen
Now she's gone on and done all those things AND she's dating "the boy on the football team"! And the song is FULL of football references!
Lyrics from 22:
I don't know about you But I'm feeling twenty-two Everything will be alright if You keep me next to you
And Taylor sings about feeling like she's back in High School! She's feeling YOUNG again!
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harrytheehottie ¡ 11 months ago
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keep going back to the themes of the song peter… a constant back and forth relationship that ends… you ‘keep the light on’ waiting for them because that’s the nature of your situation… days weeks months years go by but once you see that familiar car round the drive or your phone lights up with a text from them you’re ready and willing to let them back in with promises of ‘getting better for you’ and then one day almost without noticing you build yourself back up to a place where you don’t need that anymore… you still have positive memories and wish them the best but the best doesn’t mean you anymore !!!!!!
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popbloganddropit ¡ 10 months ago
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The Tortured Poets Department - Taylor Swift (Part 3)
Apologies for the long delay, I got hit by a holiday and life has been a little busy and sleepless lately. I will try my best to get the finale, Part 4. Out as quickly as possible!
17. The Black Dog- Some of my favorite songs are “You Are In Love” and “Right Where You Left Me,” and I’m still baffled this was left as a bonus track. If I wrote this song (solo!!!), I would never shut up about and put it on every album I could. The Anthology has some really great, interesting stuff, but I just think “The Black Dog” is in a league of its own. The lyrics scratch an itch I didn’t know I had and the drums and echo kicking in on “screaming” every time (except the perfection that is the whispered final one) is so cathartic. This is a quintessential break up song; a perfect balance of confusion, nostalgia, sadness and anger. Tattoo this song on my body and put “I hope it’s shitty in The Black Dog” on my gravestone. 5/5
Best Line: “And hire a priest to come and exorcise my demons, even if I die screaming, and I hope you hear it”.
18. imgonnagetyouback- This track is a little meh for me. There’s some lines that feel like they could have used a second draft, and some of them are in the chorus. “Smash up your bike” just seems very random to me and doesn’t make up for the slightly off rhyme scheme enough. There’s some fun vocal moments; she sounds like she’s having the best time in the bridge, but I can see why this is was left off the main track list. 2.5/5
Best Line: “I, I hear the whispers in your eyes, I'll make you wanna think twice. You'll find that you were never not mine. I'm gonna get you back.”
19. The Albatross- This song is fun to sing along to, despite the message being sad. A little research into the Time of the Ancient Mariner (or explainers from the literary Swifties) might help this song click for you if it hasn’t. There’s also a little Blank Space infused in, a “this is what they’re saying about me, I’ll be that character” energy. “Cross your thoughtless heart, only liquor anoints you” rolls off the tongue far smoother than anything containing the word “anoint” has any right to. 4.5/5
Best Line: “Devils that you know, raise worse hell than a stranger. She's the death you chose, you're in terrible danger.”
20. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus- I love a song with a lot or yearning and boy, did I get a feast here. I also really like the subtle, but beautiful musical background Dessner has given us. Those little flourishes elevate the mood so perfectly. The “Maroon” reference is so interesting. The possibilities of mixed genders in the title. There is much to contemplate here, but you are expertly only left with questions, similar to the narrator. A little like the state of the narrator’s affairs, this song haunts the little crevices of my mind, worming it’s way towards being one of my favorites. 5/5
Best Line: Spotify once described my musical aura as “yearning and wistful” and this entire chorus scratches that itch so well. “If you want to break my cold, cold heart, just say, 'I loved you the way that you were'. If you want to tear my world apart, just say you've always wondered.”
21. How Did It End- another song that might be a career high but is delegated to the middle of the second secret album??? At least it’s technically a Track 5. She really captures the embarrassment of breaking up and everyone finding out and some acting like they care so they can have more fodder for gossip. Meanwhile the protagonist doesn’t really even seem to have the answers to give them, a genius double entendre with both onlookers and the narrator asking the titular question. “Soon they'll go home to their husbands. Smug cause they know they can trust him,” really punches in a break up song. Everyone else has what she doesn’t. There is so much heartbreaking minutiae tucked into this song; it’s a beautiful moment of vulnerability. 5/5
Best Line: Truly a lot of great stuff. I love the minor circus theme sprinkled in throughout the album, including here with, “Come one, come all. It's happening again. The empathetic hunger descends.” But “And so a touch that was my birthright became foreign,” is so good, it makes me physically ill.
22. So High School- a classic Taylor Swift track list move is to whiplash the listener a bit after ripping their heart out with a drastic tone shift and “So High School” continues this time-honored tradition. It is a track full of ear worms and nostalgic soft rock sounds that make it sound like it’s a classic needle drop in a 2000’s rom com. She sounds like she’s having so much fun, and it’s infectious. I wouldn’t return to high school for a million dollars, but this song would have me throwing on a hoodie with the neck cut and rolling the waistband of my Soffe shorts in an instant! 4.5/5
Best Line: “I wanna find you in a crowd just to hide from you,” feels so perfectly high school to me. Honorary mention to “Truth, dare, spin bottles. You know how to ball, I know Aristotle. Brand new, full-throttle. Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto” for being so funny. If you think those are dead serious lines meant to be taken at face value, that’s a skill issue.
23. I Hate It Here- Daydreamers will delight at this song’s beautiful imagery. The “Here” in the title can be anywhere. A bad date, a town you’ve outgrown, a bad time in your life. Criticism of the second verse was overblown upon the album release within context of the song, but it is a little clunky. I really love the flowing melody and glowing depictions of where she escapes to, but I don’t need the verses the way I do in many other songs on the album. 3.5/5
Best Line: “I hate it here so I will go to lunar valleys in my mind, when they found a better planet, only the gentle survived.”
24. thanK you aIMee - this is a cheeky little track about rising above the bullies. It’s catchy and fun enough, I think that’s the capitalization in the title is distracting a bit from the point. The song feels like a wink and a nudge while ultimately taking the high road and the title feels like a pointed barb. 3.5/5
Best Line: “But when I count the scars, there's a moment of truth. That there wouldn't be this if there hadn't been you.”
Are you an original album or anthology songs stan? Let me know in the comments!!
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agreyrose ¡ 10 months ago
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Also this:
“I Can Do It With a Broken Heart”
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“Hits Different”
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I feel like that meme of the guy with the stuff pinned on the board and all the red lines (insane)
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lipslikethegardensofbabylon ¡ 10 months ago
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#ttpd analysis day thirteen - I Can Do It With A Broken Heart
so fun fact, when I first listened to ttpd I hadn't read the prologue (does this make me a bad swiftie? lol) but so when i first heard ICDIWABH i texted one of my friends "this song sounds like mania". i know now that she referred to the relationship itself as the mania but following heartbreak, some people can be purposefully self destructive/harmful, and in that same vein i think some people refuse to process events when they've recently happened and occupy their mind with other things (hello denial stage). so basically that is ICDIWABH in a nutshell
so the lyrics of ICDIWABH are worrisome and extreme (and dare I say, unfortunately painfully relatable). to couple those lyrics with the upbeat, speedy production, the whole song sounds like avant-garde dadaism, basically
Dada was an art movement formed during the First World War in Zurich in negative reaction to the horrors and folly of the war. The art, poetry and performance produced by dada artists is often satirical and nonsensical in nature.
lights, camera, bitch, smile, even when you wanna die
I cry a lot but I am so productive, it's an art
I'm miserable! and nobody even knows!
once you get past the satirical production and first verse, there are some parallels to Hits Different (which also has an upbeat production):
I keep finding his things in drawers crucial evidence, I didn't imagine the whole thing/I find the artifacts, cried over a hat
one of the lyrics that stands out to me in ICDIWABH is I can pass this test. it can go a lot of different ways and I think that's why it resonates. it makes me think of TIMT and fell behind all my classmates and I ended up here, Bejeweled did all the extra credit, then got graded on a curve, and even Dear John's never impressed by me acing your tests. it could be indicative of the relationship itself being a test (to the public), or the muses partner testing the narrator. given the context of the song, it's likely the narrator saying i can show everyone I'm fine but it wasn't true
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wellisntthatinteresting ¡ 7 months ago
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The Tortured Jiara Department #9
I gotta say, as I was preparing to post this song came out of nowhere. But it’s kinda perfect…
🎵Song
Fresh Out The Slammer
💿Track number
7
👫Whose vibes are we picking up on?
Kiara/Jiara season 3 vibes, with Kie being on lockdown in various ways (Singh, parents, Kittyhawk)
💕Lyric loves
“Now, pretty baby, I'm running back home to you / Fresh out the slammer, I know who my first call will be to”
“All those nights you kept me going / Swirled you into all of my poems / Now we're at the starting line, I did my time”
“And no matter what I've done, it wouldn't matter anyway / Ain't no way I'm gonna screw up now that I know what's at stake”
✍️Wellisntthatinteresting’s take
Color me surprised that a song with “slammer” in the title isn’t all about JJ. But here we are. The proverbial slammer can be interpreted in the traditional sense (how many times was Kie held against her will in S3 again?🤔). But almost as important, Kiara and JJ are prisoners of their own inner demons and thoughts, which is why the burn in S3 is so painfully slow as actions catch up with thoughts and feelings.
8/10 This one is another slow burner but with more listens, really becomes a solid track. The breathiness in the vocals evokes a sense of longing that I think works really well in the context of Jiara.
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veinsglisten ¡ 11 months ago
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🕊️🪽 The Albatross x The Alcott 📝✨
I can’t help but spot the similarities between these two songs
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📝“have I become one of your problems?”
🕊️the albatross is a burden weighing down the mariner
📝“everything that’s mine is a landmine”
🕊️“I’m the life you chose
and all this terrible danger”
📝“did my love aid and abet you?”
🕊️“spread my wings like a parachute
I’m the albatross
I swept in at the rescue”
however, the phrase “aid and abet” means to support someone to do something wrong
so here it can be interpreted that
the albatross rescues the mariner, which is an act of love that aids and abets the mariner to kill her in turn 🏹🕊️
📝the speaker asking which side her lover’s on
🕊️there’re people warning him of the danger that she brings, and thus making him refrain from loving her
vs her warning him of “jackals [that] raised their hackles”
and him being in the safe shelter of her parachute wings, thus being on her side
📝”landmine” vs “love”
🕊️“the devil that you know
looks now more like an angel”
we can now understand
the duality of the albatross 🕊️🪽
and the dynamic of the relationship
between the sea bird and the mariner,
and between the couple at The Alcott 🤍����
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all-at-once-you-are-the-one ¡ 11 months ago
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Idk if this is a hot take or not, but IMO loml is one of the most straightforward songs on the album and it actually tells a story in chronological order. Let’s examine:
Who's gonna stop us from waltzing
Back into rekindled flames?
If we know the steps anyway
We embroidered the memories
Of the time I was away
Stitching, "We were just kids, babe"
Yes, I know this very much sounds like it’s about a certain someone but I actually think here she is referring to the breaks between her and Joe that she’s previously alluded to in Hits Different & That’s When TV. She also often describes this relationship as making her feel like a kid in other songs like CIWYW, INTHAF etc.
I said, "I don't mind, it takes time"
I thought I was better safe than starry-eyed
This was the line that really sparked my curiosity. What does she not mind? It seems like she’s changing her mind on something and resigning herself to being stable and settled rather than leaving to find something better. This is the period when we got songs like Lavender Haze. He said he needed more time before marriage and she was like you know what yeah, why do women have to get married anyway?? Can’t we just be together?? Both of them were denying that it was what she truly wanted and he just didn’t.
You and I go from one kiss to gettin married
Still alive, killing time at the cemetery
Never quite buried
In your suit and tie, in the nick of time
You lowdown boy, you stand up guy
Holy Ghost, you told me I'm
The love of your life
You said I'm the love of your life
About a million times
She’s waiting and waiting and waiting for the marriage thing to happen and he just keeps placating her by saying she’s the love of his life. (I can totally just picture him saying “but you’re the love of my life and we’re happy, isn’t that enough?”). She has faith in him because he’s such a good guy with integrity, surely he wouldn’t just lie to her and lead her on. Surely he’ll show up in the nick of time to marry her like he said he would.
Who's gonna tell me the truth
When you blew in with the winds of fate
And told me I reformed you
Here’s what’s his name making his grand entrance!
And all at once, the ink bleeds
He promised her all the same things and then took it away so quickly which released the stopper on all her pent up feelings about being let down in this way. The rest of this verse is pretty clear cut
You talked me under the table
Talking rings and talking cradles
I wish I could un-recall
How we almost had it all
Now it’s about them both! She’s going into detail about the way in which they let her down
Dancing phantoms on the terrace
Are they second-hand embarrassed
That I can't get out of bed?
Cause something counterfeit's dead
It was legendary
It was momentary
It was unnecessary
Should've let it stay buried
This is the saddest part!!! This is also about both of them! What’s his name is obvious, but it’s also about her and Joe. She knew they had issues! She knew he didn’t want what she wanted! That’s why they had their break! Now she feels that when they resumed their relationship it wasn’t real, he just started lying to her and she was also lying to herself, and they should have just broken up for good the first time.
Oh, what a valiant roar
What a bland goodbye
The coward claimed he was a lion
I'm combing through the braids of lies
Again, what’s his name is very obvious here. She’s also upset about her breakup with Joe: she broke up with him remotely! And maybe he just let her! She thought he was brave, that he had integrity, but he lied to her over and over and over again, every time he promised they would have the things she wanted for her future. He was just delaying the inevitable and wasting her time.
If you can get past the Matty of it all and accept the story she’s telling here at face value there is SO MUCH she’s sharing with us here.
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adultswiftie ¡ 11 months ago
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thanK you aIMee
The more I think about the overall arc of the album and what lead to it, the more 'thanK you aIMee' showing up on TTPD actually makes sense.
First, I want to preface this by saying that everyone has things they don't 'just get over,' and anyone griping that Taylor should Just Get Over the whole Kimye business is just bored with it as a form of entertainment. She doesn't have to be over feeling it, or even writing about it, just because you're over hearing about it. /rant
But to my actual point: on TTPD Taylor talks about Joe as her consolation prize. About how long and hard she fought to keep that relationship going even when it was on life support and actively harming her for literally years before she pulled the plug. And at least some part of why she fought so long and hard has to be because of the story she had crafted and comforted herself with over the years - that all of the hell she went through in 2016 must have been worth it, because she came out of it with Joe. That maybe 2016 was fate, was the price she had to pay for true love, etc. etc.
To then end that relationship? To have to say 'no, maybe 2016 didn't leave me with anything important and valuable and sacred'? No wonder she's thinking back to it. Trying to still mine whatever good she can from it (probably that she is a lot more resilient now), but also still find a hearty "fucK you aIMee" in her, because seriously what the hell.
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isitovernow-ootw ¡ 11 months ago
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i keep seeing people interpreting the tattood golden retriever line as meaning little ttpd is about ratty. my feeling is that that song is one of the best examples of how the album intertwines & compares both muses
here's some of the lines that seem to be pretty clearly about one or the other. I cut out the chorus but in my view it applies to both
joe mh both
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So basically the first verse would be joe, second verse both, and bridge mh. i almost wonder if "tattooed golden retriever" itself is a combination of the two, but I'm not as sure about that.
the second verse also could just be mh exclusively, but to me it feels like it's likening the two. smoke is used in referenced to both of them in different songs, both have mental health issues
"i chose this cyclone with you" feels like the thesis of both relationships in slightly different ways. for joe it's I swore I'd stay no matter what, I put all my hopes and dreams into this, I'm with you even if it makes me blue. for mh it's also i put all my hopes and dreams into this, but with more of a but daddy i love him / i can fix him (no really i can) vibe. "I know he's crazy but he's the one I want"
and those two versions of "I chose this cyclone with you" are also basically a summary of the first verse and the bridge, respectively.
"I've seen this episode and and still love the show" vs "it's meant to be 'cause we're crazy"
this comparison to me is a big part of what the album is about (obviously there's a lot going on beyond that & still figuring things out) and I think it's kind of incapsulated in this song.
pls let me know your thoughts on this and if you agree or disagree!! obviously this is super new & this is just what I'm thinking right now + may change after settling in with the album and hearing other thoughts
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