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What did you think about the last episode!!
hi hi! so uhhh... this is going to get long and i’ve combined like 10 other asks i want to address, so your ask may be answered here! if you want Rahul’s Take On The 2gether Finale, then brace yourself.
...I didn't really like the last episode, I feel like it could've been a lot better/more emotional
I dunno if it's because I didn't like the last 2 episodes but even though the show literally finished I'm not emotional? The last episode I felt actually really happy watching was ep 9 but now I'm just 'ok, that show finished.' I'm sad bc I thought I would have a stronger reaction to the ending and them getting back together but I'm just meh :/
Really don't want to sound like those annoying people but damn really no kiss scene
I liked the ending, it was okay I guess but gmmtv better prepare for a shitstorm bc so many people didn't lololol
Honestly the best and well written episodes were ones where they still weren't a couple, like 8 and 9 were amazing
Although the finale was good, I feel llke in the future when I want to rewatch my favorite moments from this series, I will go for the first 10 or so episodes more often than not. It kinda feels like 2gether peaked around episodes 7-10, which is perfectly fine!! It was all in all a great series that did what it wanted to do and I’ll always cherish it but, I probably won’t rewatch much of the last two episodes
They made pam even worse!! Before she had her talk with tine anyway!!
My thoughts on the finale: could've been a lot better, could've been a lot worse
2Gether really felt like a giant inflatable castle that was carefully blown up for the past 12 weeks only to let it rapidly and poorly deflate in the end
The ending was fine and was expected but for me it's underwhelming in the sense that the past episodes, especially 4, 8 and 9 were really written in comparison so the finale is kinda meh bc I knew there was gonna be a happy ending. But still the YouTube comments and what some people on tumblr are saying is ridiculous, I don't want to even think about Twitter but imo I don't think any of gmmtvs other shows can top dbks ending like that ending was perfect,
i honestly love that 2gether focused so much on the story and the emotion and became so successful without all the usual fan service. i hope the whole industry takes something away from that! but i still felt like the finale was a little emotionally stunted when it came to tine/sarawat. i just wanted a big YES, I CHOOSE YOU moment, and tine's reappearance and the bracelet scene just didn't do it for me. you know what would have, though? a kiss. or a hug, or holding hands, or something sweet
okay, my friends! here is my opinion on the 2gether finale first, and then i’m gonna address what i personally hold of the more negative response the fandom has shown. i generally thought the finale had... a solid ending. i went into it with absolutely no expectations apart from sarawat’s song and a happy ending, because i knew it would be messy and not as good as ep 4 or 9 etc, considering the sheer amount of open storylines that were left to be resolved in one episode. i knew it would polarise the fandom--but i personally thought the ending was fine! a bit cliche, a bit rushed, but it was okay and it was a good enough ending for me to put 2gether behind me, the first season at least. the bracelet scenes and shots were amazing, the song was incredible (although i wish they would have had sarawat sing a bit more), the conversation pam and tine had was solid as well! there were a lot of things i liked about the finale and bright and win killed their solo acting as always. however, there are some things i wanna get into more detail about that i feel could have been done better, not only as a finale but as a show itself.
time allocated for the storylines. or: plotlines in general. this has been my bone to pick ever since episode 10. not gonna lie, this wasn’t good, especially from ep 10 onwards. there were so many storylines and plotlines that were dragged out further than necessary, and so many plotlines that should have started earlier. best example for this is mil and phukong, the mil redemption storyline should have started in ep 10 and should have had him be sincere for once, and the mil/phukong storyline should have actually made sense from the beginning and started in ep 11 at the latest. the mantype storyline should have also started a bit earlier than that and given us an explanation as to why type was crying at the retreat. however, mantype did pull it off!
writing! this ties in with the first point. the writing felt a bit inconsistent in the last two episodes and it’s a pity, really, that this is one of the downfalls :/ all the actors in this series, from the mains (bright, win, mike, toptap, frank, drake) to the side characters (gunsmile, love, gigie, film, etc.) are such good actors and it’s unfortunate that the last three episodes were a bit :// in terms of writing and plotlines. they all did the best they could with what was written and that... yeah.
conflict. this has to do with the first two points. the finale felt rushed. that’s something that i don’t think anyone really can argue? and i expected that, so i wasn’t too disappointed by it or anything. obviously it would have felt rushed considering the fact that they had to wrap up 3 or 4 episodes’ worth of storylines in one episode, which was a blunder on the writers’ part. the conflict fell flat, then. if they had had pam come in earlier and had tine and sarawat spend more time away from each other, we would have gotten an explosive reaction. i really do think that after they got together for real, the writers struggled to find conflict to keep the story going, jumping from tine’s insecurities to mil to pam for no reason whatever. i think it would have been much better done if we had mil as an antagonist wrapped up and on the road to redemption in ep 10 and had pam come in there, with tine’s insecurities as a b plot. i feel that would have been a bit more gripping. but, hey, guess that’s just me!
order of filming. this has to do with people saying that brightwin’s chemistry was off in the finale. i don’t think it was off, per se, but it was definitely lacking when we compare it to their chemistry in ep 4 or 9 or 10, y’know? that’s because i believe the finale was filmed earlier, when bright and win were still getting to know each other and figuring out how well they could improv. and they can improv, from what we’ve seen! so there really is nothing i can say apart from the fact that it’s a bit disappointing that they decided to film such a pivotal scene at the beginning. if it had been filmed in the end, it would have definitely been better!
flashbacks. the finale needed all the time it was gonna get, and i am disappointed by the amount of flashbacks they used, honestly. i would have cut down on the number of sarawatine flashbacks and used them sparingly when they reunited, because that just... makes sense and evokes emotion in the viewer, you know? the only flashbacks that served well were type’s view of everything and phukong and mil, because they were new. it just... felt a bit inauthentic.
pam. or: the girls in general. there is nothing i can do here but SCREAM. pam should have come in way earlier and replaced mil as the centre point of conflict for ep 11 and 12 to have been as good as the rest of the show, or ep 4 and 9 at least. her character fell so flat and the conflict she brought with her fell so flat as well, honestly. the girls should have been done better--more of earn and sarawat! more of pear! they could have tied into the plot effortlessly!
mil and phukong x mil. yeah this is a... whole ass bulletpoint, unfortunately. call me a clown all you want for expecting him to have at least a half assed redemption arc in the finale but goddamn was that... not good. really bitter over the fact phukong was straight up okay with being a “replacement” for tine even though... that doesn’t even make sense. i just... yeah, this wasn’t good. i feel super bad for frank and drake because they deserve a well written show or at the very least a well written storyline for all of their chemistry and work they put in, considering the fact that they are so so young. i could go on about a good mil arc for ages but i just... yeah i’m writing a fic, so y’all will see.
the reunion. this stems from the flat conflict and the rushed-ness of it all, but yeah. it wasn’t particularly hard-hitting, but i still enjoyed it because it’s sarawat and tine. this has to do with when they filmed as well, and just... because the angst didn’t start early enough for it to hit home. and i really do wish we’d had a scene after that with the both of them, alone. a lot of their things happen with a lot of people around them... and nah.
one year later. bro. bro. bro. the music club thing was cute! but i would have just... loved to see them alone, y’know? a scene of them being alone and intimate, just sitting next to each other on the couch or at a football game or sarawat continuing bringing the cheerleaders snacks, even a year later. them going to another concert. anything where they were just... alone. i wanted to see them together! we got that with mantype and we even got that fucking... scene on the roof where mil and phukong were just fuckin around? yeah? i would have loved to see that with sarawat and tine so much. (also btw pretty sure the rooftop scenes with mil and phukong is also where drake and frank took this photo and it made me so happy dhsndh like... the shot where mil took his hand off phukong’s eyes? i called it immediately and my partner was like ???)
intimacy. chemistry. the biggest thing everyone is talking about. now comes the part that y’all all wanted to know if you’ve been reading this far lmfao, my take on the fact that was no kiss in the finale! and my take is... i expected there to be no kiss in the finale somewhere deep within, and honestly i’m fine with not having a kiss. my only problems with all of this are first of all, that we didn’t get a proper kiss in the entire series and had sarawat kissing tine one-sidedly. secondly, i would have loved verbal intimacy as well! an i love you, or y’know, some hand holding, anything! this is also due to the fact that i believe the series was filmed relatively early on. i just wish... again, that they would have been alone one year later and we could have just seen them being domestic, as we have already seen them!
so those are some of my thoughts on the finale. considering the fandom’s response... i can see why people are upset or disappointed but i don’t think it’s, like, that justified to throw the whole show away as well. yeah, the ending wasn’t perfect, but if you’ve enjoyed the show as a whole... maybe it’s okay, y’know? like, personally, i don’t think i’m ever going to rewatch the finale. but i do love the earlier episodes and i am gonna watch them back at some point, probably! it’s all well and good and valid to criticise the lack of intimacy and kissing in the finale i guess, but if you’re a straight girl then maybe... watch your words. 2gether has portrayed a wonderful love story between two men and to see straight people throw it away as “bromance” or say it’s the “straightest bl of all time” or whatever because of the lack of kisses is kind of hurtful. i am completely open to discussing this with lgbt people, mlm specifically, and you can come talk to me about your thoughts if you’re a straight woman as well. all i’m asking for is that you maybe show a little bit of empathy and respect, y’know? i also do think 2gether peaked around episode 9/10 and i’m fine with that! it gave me so much more than characters and relationships--it gave me the fandom and everyone here and words cannot express how grateful i am for all of you. maybe the last few episodes were poorly written and the finale wasn’t everything y’all hoped for... but i did and do love this show. i cannot wait to see where brightwin go next.
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(1) y'know it's so funny seeing the positivity police make all these posts about how they're stating their opinion abt the show that destiel is endgame & they never actually mean it bc they don't know anything but yet continue writing 58482923625 million metas on the color shirt dean is wearing & that one beer label that has the bi flag on it and how jack is uwu gonna bring his daddies together uwu like lmfaooo that's why we're calling ur shit out bc younger fans eat this shit up and start
Hi anon! Under the cut it goes the reply, you know, it got long as usual….and wanky.
(A note after an asshole tried to police me: don’t like my rants or me venting or fandom wank and above all criticism towards the show: go away, this is not for you and it’s tagged properly.)
I agree with all that you said. But let me tell you this: before this year I never had a problem with what metas wrote about spn, Cas or destiel. After all internet is full with metas and fan theories about every show out there and every movie ever made. There are crazy as fuck theories that I’ve read and moved on, because everyone has a right to have a reading about the show they are watching. I was never against that. In fact there were some metas in the fandom that I truly admired because they were on point and they shared all of their thoughts with us. Kudos to them.
But then these new metas started to arrive with only one objective in mind: to prove that destiel is going to be canon no matter what. And again, ok, they had their readings, they hoped for something, I didn’t agree, but it was not my place to say anything. Suddenly all these people started to say that Cas being dead was a good thing. They were happy about it in fact and I was wtf? Really confused there, because no matter how much you love a ship, if you really like the characters you can’t be happy one of them is dead! And we have already so much shit from the show and the haters towards Cas, than to see “fans” clapping for his death… yeah I just couldn’t shut up. Not going to take well people cheering about my favorite character dying you know?
After that, when a bunch of us said: hey that’s not ok, wtf are you saying that is good that Cas is gone? The mocking started. And I don’t follow any of them, but I’ve seen the posts ok? Because people shared them with me. I’m not fucking lying, I don’t need to. So, we bitter Cas fans not only had to put up with the haters but now we were also being mocked by some of his “fans” as well. I let it pass too, because I don’t like going to blogs to police people you know? I don’t do that. I vent and rant in my blog, but to go to their blogs to start shit as they were doing��nah, didn’t worth my time, really. But of course then, their policing began. I mean, I’m here, on my little corner, with my people, sad and bitter about not having Cas, and I see the positivity police going everywhere telling us: “you don’t know how to watch the show! Why don’t you like Jack? Why are you being so negative?! You do know that this is a drama right? I went through your tags and I’m baffled you are so wrong in everything!” And I’m not exaggerating here, these are things they said to us. In our blogs, through messages, or tagging us directly, reblogging us. So right there was the moment when I reached my fucking limit. Sorry not sorry.
I have to put up with more than half the fandom cheering that Cas is dead or gone or absent, but also I can’t be sad or bitter or angry about that? What.the.ever.fuck??? I’m not having that shit ffs! I don’t care if they have 2423242 titles on their walls, nothing gives them the right to tell other people how to feel, or how to see things. We can exchange opinions, we can disagree or agree, but to police me about how I feel for my favorite character or if I watch the show this or that way, or to tell me to stop watching because I only like Cas, who the fuck gave them the right?
And now they are upset because we say that they are not really Cas’s fans. After they were really happy for his death, because endgame! Cry me a river! Don’t believe in their shit for one minute. I’ve never saw any fans happy about their fave dying, another exclusive and horrible thing spn fandom has now. I can’t fucking believe it. And all because of a ship. So they can’t tell me they like Cas if they prefer him dead, because of a sick notion that that is what is going to make destiel canon after 9 fucking seasons. If they prefer a placebo!cas because aaaawww dadstiel!! If they say that Cas being gone and captured is a good thing. They are so full of shit and themselves that I can’t believe how many people are buying their fucking lies and twisted readings.
Which brings me to the poor people that believe in them and parrot everywhere their lies. I’m sorry for them really. I know the majority are new to the fandom and to the ship, and want to believe and be positive. And well I can’t feel anything but sorry for them. They are buying not only tptb lies, but also the bs these metas are spewing everywhere. And look I want a big happy ending for Cas too ok? Of course I want that! So I get it. But how that is going to happen if we only have Cas for a few minutes and then no Cas at all for months? If every time we saw him this season he was either dead, talking to the empty, on a fucking out of place cowboys cosplay episode and then saved by asshole Lucifer and on top of all that, being captured by a demon? How? And I didn’t need 2423423422 words to resume how Cas story line has been this season, to show you how crappy it is. It’s just there! I can’t be blind ffs! After all these years what purpose it serves being blind as fuck?
Fandom being so happy with Cas being absent or clapping about placebo!cas, and not shouting to the rooftops how unfair that is, it’s what is going to give us even less Cas. A lot of us said it last season. And now here were are. We didn’t even saw him for the mid season finale. And I’m not fucking happy about being right. I surely hope with every season that I’m wrong as all fuck about my thoughts about Cas’s story and where they are taking it. Seriously. Last season a bunch of us saw Cas’s death coming, we wrote about it and how sad it was, and we got shit for that. Again. And I cried rivers watching Cas being stabbed on the back ok? Even if I knew it was going to happen I was really upset. I’m tired of seeing him hurt, bleeding, tortured, without powers, or with powers but treated like a weak angel (remember the I couldn’t kill a vampire? wft?), a fool that despite having all this pop culture in his head thanks to Metatron, doesn’t know who Beyoncé is, that goes to suicide missions that make no sense at all… I’m tired. And sad. And angry. And I have a right to express that on my fucking blog.
*sigh* And then they give me the discourse of “spnfamily!!” Lmao! Give me a break! hashtag only love! my fucking ass! This fandom has some good people ofc, but it’s also full of hypocrites. Don’t give me the peace! speech if you started shit in the first place, threw the rock, and hid the hand. Why people in this fandom can’t accept criticism towards a show that is mediocre at the best of times I will never understand. Now we even have “Cas’s fans” policing everywhere when we should stick together loving him. And wanting him back. You know, instead of wanting him dead, because of a fucking ship.
This got reaaaaally long, XD. Sorry! I guess I’m venting after a week or reading so much bs.
Take care anon!
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Unreleased/Rejected art
(adm: Like I promised, here’s the art I was going to put in the game but didn’t because of reasons lmao here we go:
[I’m putting everything under a cut because this is going to be kinda long
I DO NOT give permission to use anyting shown under the cut!!]
I was going to add this one when the axis/allies gathered together, and the Thing bust inside the room. Japan would say “I wish you the best of luck” in this pic, but IT JUST LOOKS SO WEIRD I--UUUHGHH LMAO I painted this like????!!!! seriously, like 5 times and it still looked weird so I just. Gave up. Lmao
This is actually not the last version I have of this drawing. For many reasons, I had to reinstall windows and I ended up losing everything. That’s what I could save of it.
A very rough sketch that would appear when Japan first found Prussia, when they were waiting for the thing to go away. It’d only appear when you locked the door. This was the first drawing I did for the game and I only drew it to see how it would look in RPG Maker, and since it wasn’t such an important scene I just discarded it.
Earllier version of “Look after me, Old Fritz!!”. I thought it looked weird, and my art changed a lot throughout the 5 months I worked on the game so I just redrew it lmao. Here’s the final version.
Early America icons!
Rejected Germany and Italy icons. Italy looks terrible and Germany looks just... weird lmfao.
Early icons! You can actually see the Prussia one when Italy’s inside his dream when he turns into his oni version lmao. That’s because I was going to use that icon, but later on decided to change how he looked a bit bc I didn’t really like how it turned out and forgot to change the oni icon, so yeah. The Spain and Romano ones were drawn along with the first set of icons. Later on I had improved my art and thought they looked weird so I just redrew them lmfao
Early title screen!! I ended up using this one for the game over screen lol.
THIS WAS MY FIRST ATTEMPT AT A SPRITE LMFAOOO I ACTUALLY TRIED DRAWING IT BY MYSELF [of course with the help of a sprite base]. But no way it would work. I’m glad I bought Game Character Hub lol.
But I guess this is all!! Here are some sketches and earlier versions of drawings used in the game:
and, there you have it! Sorry for the long post, but thanks for reading/seeing! :D)
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