#traitor tubbo

[aloesnake]

"are you sure this is safe" "ya maybe lol 👍"

[the-home-of-innovation]

do you think you'd do reruns of the tommy charms or any other merch? I would love to get them but no cash rn

It really depends on interest!

We'll likely have some extra but very limited stock after pre-orders are sent out but any future reruns are dependant on if people want them or not

[qsmprambling]

Wait Bolas tried to recruit Tubbo???

Thank you Tubbo for saying you wouldn't betray your team and when Slime and Cellbit said they betrayed him he said "They're just misunderstood!"

Everyone in Soulfire had reasons for their actions yesterday, and Tubbo knows that even if he's upset/frustrated. Even if it wasn't the case, why take the leader away from a group of 12 when only 2 of them caused an issue? Don't try and break up Soulfire like that!

[probatiostudies]

I had a whole thing I wanted to write out but ESSENTIALLY, I ADORE q!Quackity's whole progression of why did I wake up in that way with these people around to why is an island resident talking so much with a government employee 🤔🤨

IT'S JUST SO FUNNY TOO we get the irl meme recreations with Philza, Forever, Missa, Quackity, Roier, Cellbit, even Tristin, to now q!Quackity being the defensive "Why are you chatting up my next door neighbor kid?" IT'S SO ROMEO AND JULIET-ESC HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT DOWN

[rain-dere]

"You know what, Quackity? After all this is done, do you wanna just go do our own thing? It would be a lot less complicated." <- cabinetduo quote to crush the soul

[clembian]

real talk here. who did u guys think was the traitor was in pogtopia

[apollo-the-story-teller]

Where Tubbo and Bad are pretty similar in Post Purgatory shit

I do not think Tubbo will vibe well with the recreation of blue team base. Maybe he would save face for Bad, but it is probably due to very unique circumstances Bad can even stand the thing

qBad is becoming more and more depressed and no one sees the signs, that is devastating

[conarcoin]

Some of my favorite DSMP quotes I think are underrated:

"Do you know what happens to traitors, Tubbo? ...Nothing good." - Schlatt

"TommyInnit, I am a slow-burning fuse." - Wilbur

"History will forget that a country ever existed in this area." - Techno

"Let the space between the Badlands be total chaos. That's got nothing to do with us! Manberg? Pogtopia? Who cares!" - BBH

"Tommy, you just did a coup. You just did a hostile government takeover and then immediately instilled yourself as president. And then you gave it to your friend, but that's still a tyrant, Tommy!" - Techno

"I know I'm forgetful, I know I'm an amnesiac and I'm the comic relief in all your stories, but I still feel this- I still feel things!" - Ghostbur

"For what it's worth, I don't know what went on today. But even though you kidnapped me, and I'm still kinda dealing with the trauma, I think at the end of the day you're just a conflicted person, not a bad person... And I hope one day you find what you're looking for." - Connor

"If you wanted to stop us, you should have brought more than just yourself. You should have brought an army with you." - BBH

"You threw away my life for some kind of fucking sales pitch?" - Foolish

"I've been watching for a long time. One person lashes out and then the other does, until they're both gone. From what I've seen, it feels like people don't stop taking that revenge. Is it ever worth it?" - Slime

"You showed me that when you saw me, something malleable, and all of you made me into the worst parts of each." - Slime

[gay-mooshrooms]

some quotes from wilbur's nov 16th pov that make me feral

“You know what Wilbur, maybe I am clingy. Because I like my home.” -Tommy

“At the end of the day Tommy, I would say we’ve always got each other but we don’t. Cus if it goes wrong you’re probably gonna hate me.” “Oh”- Wilbur and Tommy

“Wilbur, let's take it back.” “Tommy, you know the rules. If this fails, it's going up.” “We can’t fail.” “That’s what me and Tommy said about the election and here we are.”- Tommy, Wilbur, Quackity

“We don’t want you to die Will.” “Nah plan B” “Wil there is no plan B!” “Niki I’m just telling you there's 11 and a half stacks of plan B.”- Tommy, Wilbur, Niki

“I know you had your points, you went on about your, your Chekhov's fucking gun! I know that that was all, all just talk now! Finally, you did this, and there wasn’t a single explosion.”- Tommy

“Tubbo, you’re a good kid and an even better spy.”- Wilbur

“There was a special place, there was. And that special place did exist once. But even with Tubbo in charge, I don’t think it can exist again.”- Wilbur

“Kill me Phil. Phil kill me. Phil kill me. Phil stab me with a sword, murder me now. Kill me, do it. Kill me Phil, murder me. Look they all want you to. Do it Phil, kill me.” “You’re my son!” “Phil kill me!” - Wilbur and Phil

“There was a traitor, I don’t know what Dream was talking about. There was a traitor, it's me and Techno. And now the server is gonna go into ruin thanks to us.”- Wilbur

“You’ve joined at the dawn of the end of civilization! Welcome! I hope you enjoy your stay. This is directed by Wilbur and Techno, the end of civilization.”- Wilbur

“This sever’s built on blowing up and burning, how are they shocked? How is anyone shocked by this?”- Wilbur

 “My finished symphony, I’ve finished. My great finished symphony.”- Wilbur

“I need to go and see this. I need to go see this unfold. I want to see this.”- Wilbur

“Tubbo! You are president of a crater! Enjoy.”- Wilbur

[bloodpen-to-paper]

So much came out of that final sequence

-All the parents and loved ones of the eggs screaming for their kids as the earth shakes and the ceiling caves in

-"I won't leave without her"

-Philza breaking his body and straining his wings to get him and Tubbo back to that damn boat, all strife and rivalry forgotten

-All the members who couldn't wake up for the end, who slept through it exhausted and believing they'd take a quick nap only to never wake up

-Etoiles having Richarlyson in his arms, only for the kid to be ripped away

-Bad getting Dapper back. Bad feeling the most miserable he's ever felt.

-Tallulah once again not having Wilbur there for her when she needs him most. Philza yelling I'm here Tallulah, I'm here. Her apologizing to the father that was there, so so sorry for all she said during their last talk, wanting nothing more than to be back in that basement with him arguing over things that seem so meaningless now

-Cellbit putting Roier through what he went through when Green was eliminated. He didn't want to hurt him, but he's tired. He's done.

-El Quackity the monster. El Quackity the traitor. El Quackity the cursed and the hated. The monster being used as a pawn once more by forces he can't comprehend. The monster having a soft spot for the child that isn't his

-Bagi desperately trying to squeeze in as much time as she can to talk to Richarslyson, the son she never met. To let him know she's family, that she loves him. She had even less time now than she did during Muertos

-Tina getting to see her niñina Leo again. Tina losing her once more. Foolish not even getting to give Leo his totems. Foolish having to shove it all down once more to get what family he has left out of there

-Maximus' final swan song. One final talk with Pierre. A push of a button. Peace.

-Fit risking it all fighting against the clock to save anyone he can, just barely making it with Bagi. Saving one life like that life is his own.

-All the people that escaped having to deal with the loss of everyone that was left behind. The survivors.

[the-crimson]

I need everyone to understand that q!Tubbo, q!Bbh and q!Aypierre spent seven hours fighting a psychological war today and they lost… but it prevented both teams from dying and no one will ever know.

(All talk about character not ccs etc etc)

Tubbo wasn’t there during the egg battle so he doesn’t feel the betrayal and humiliation that the other two do. He looks at green team and sees his friends. People he cares about. He doesn’t want them to lose especially not like this! He’d made up his mind the moment he learned of the event. No one was going to die.

Aypierre looked at green team and saw the snakes who broke their promise to tie the previous challenge. Why would they agree to tie this time when they’ve already proven to be untrustworthy? They betrayed him. They humiliated him and his entire team. This was his opportunity for revenge. Why shouldn’t blue team take it?

Bbh is much more in the middle. He agreed with the premise of a tie because he wanted to give green a fighting chance. He had a gut feeling it wasn’t going to work but he was willing to try. However, he didn’t trust green either. The whole time he was paranoid about green logging in at the last minute to scrounge together the quests to beat them. He was constantly reminding the group to stay together so they couldn’t be killed in case green logged in. He did not trust green to keep to the deal but he was willing to try.

For the first five or so hours of the streams the three had too many conversations to count where Aypierre would try to convince them to just say fuck it and turn in their tasks. To break the tie and be done with it! But each time bbh and Tubbo manage to hold him back and keep to the plan. It was only when bbh and Aypierre were in green’s secret base standing in front of green’s merchant that Aypierre finally caved and turned in his missions.

This was one battle lost. The next was Aypierre and Tubbo pulling bbh in two different directions and Tubbo choosing to give Green the quest items to rebalance the score. Two different battles that culminated in the single decisive moment of bbh claiming all of his missions. But what happened leading up to that moment? Chaos.

Various members of green team were logging in and out for the next two hours which only fueled bbh’s paranoia even more. Aypierre was trying to convince him to just claim the tasks the games already over! While Tubbo was confident they could still tie the score. It all went to shit in the last fifteen minutes.

Bbh and Aypierre discovered the quest items were gonna from the chest and Tubbo was lying to them about where he was. Tubbo made an executive decision to try and balance the score knowing the other two were too on the edge and chaotic at the moment. They’d discussed potentially giving green some items to tie the score but this was never agreed to and bbh and Aypierre had no idea what Tubbo was giving them.

They arrive at the center and the score starts changing and bbh starts panicking. Aypierre calls Tubbo a traitor for going behind their back and bbh is trying to mediate and figure out what’s going on - what did Tubbo do? Tubbo doesn’t explain fully so bbh assumes he gave both ElQuackity and Roier the quest items. Then Mouse logs in and bbh’s paranoia goes into overdrive. Did green have the items stockpiled and ready for Mouse to turn them in to sweep the victory last second? It’s happened twice before so it’s not out of the question. Bbh looked at the being Coco that acted so much like his son and asked, and it told him to cash in the quests. So he did.

At this point, everything was pure adrenaline. All bbh was thinking was save Dapper. “Run over anyone you need to to win”. If it ended as a tie or if blue won, it didn’t matter. All that mattered was he could not LOSE.

All three of blue fought so incredibly hard today it’s incredible. I wouldn’t be surprised if the ccs aren’t completely emotionally exhausted. Aypierre gave into his revenge after fighting it for nearly five hours straight. Bbh gave into his paranoia after fighting it for SEVEN HOURS straight. Tubbo gave into his need to do the right thing at any costs by going behind his team’s back which lead to the miscommunication that lead to that pivotal moment.

Blue failed today. They fought an internal war for seven hours and they lost at the very last moment. But in so doing, they saved their entire team. And they’ll never know. And no one will ever know. They will continue being the villains in this story even though no one on red or green knows what they went thought mentally today. None of them understand that it took seven hours of constant stress for them to break when they could have cashed the quests and secured victory within an hour.

In the end, Aypierre said it best “Either we win a fraud or die a villain.”

[thesmpisonfire]

I was watching everything going down today, and Soulfire would always end up claiming the tasks. Because their fate had been sealed the moment Etoiles first killed Pierre in the Egg Wars. When GG diverted their path to Red and went attack Soulfire first, breaking their trust and causing the removal of their egg

It made Pierre and Bad extremely paranoid about any kind of deal with GG. Pierre spent the entire day holding back from claiming them and letting Tubbo talk him out of it until a moment he was left unattended with his paranoia. For him, he was just biting back. Green had lunged at them already. A cold cut decision that wouldn't bring pain, right? No fight needed, just a click of a button, and its done

And then green players started logging in and Bad almost claimed them in panic, but he held back for Tubbo, even with all the pain GG had put him through. But he holds and watches Tubbo trying to make a deal with almost everyone and failing. He finally gets Roier and ElQ but only Roier is able to claim. Pierre and Bad appear, not even understanding what's happening, so this means Tubbo must be a traitor, right? They're scared. Roier is the reason their statue was gone. And Tubbo didn't explain

Not to add the fact both teams would die in case it ended up as a tie. And why would ElQ want to tie the numbers when Eye Guy told him everyone would die? ElQ would have Tubbo alone with him and Roier. Just one kill and Soulfire wouldn't be on time. ElQ planned on betraying Tubbo from the start

Soulfire did what it does best. Bark back and bite at the hands that hurt them. Their wins are never satisfying because they're always desperate, needing to survive another day. They'll do all it takes for their egg

[mcyt-transcribed]

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The left side of the van is labeled "Wilburger" in red and has a kitchen window, where Ranboo's Dream SMP character is distressed to notice his burgers are on fire. The smoke is going through the red-and-white awning. The back of the van has no art.

The right side shows Tubbo with a messenger bag of rolled up posters. He's standing on boxes so he can stick the posters of burgers to the van. "Las Nevadas" and a Quackity smile are spraypainted nearby. The front has a clear, plastic windshield which shows an attached charm of Wilbur obliviously reading. End description.]

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[abueloier]

what gets to me about quackity's nasty behavior against fred and tubbo is that he really, truly believes he's justified in this. he spent a while talking about how his first memories are of being trapped in federation rooms, being experimented on- he's SO sure that tubbo is a traitor, that he's siding with people that are hurting others, that hurt him. of course he's resentful, of course he's awful. he feels like he has the right to be

[strawberrrymilk1]

Every DSMP Trio

(Tell me if I missed any and I'll add them) Neapolitan Trio - Technoblade & Tommyinnit & Wilbur Soot

L'mantrio - Tubbo & Wilbur Soot & Tommyinnit

Snowy Trio - Tubbo & Michael & Ranboo

Chaos Trio - Wilbur Soot & Technoblade & Dream

Bench Trio - Tubbo & Ranboo & Tommyinnit

Feral Girls - Puffy & Nihachu(Niki) & Hannah

Dream Team - GeorgeNotFound & Sapnap & Dream

Divine Trio - Wilbur Soot & Nihachu(Niki) & Jack Manifold

The Hotties - BadBoyHalo & Skeppy & Puffy

Storm Trio - Nihachu(Niki) & Wilbur Soot & Tommyinnit

Chaotic Trio - Tubbo & Quackity & Wilbur Soot

Bomb Trio - Sapnap & Tommyinnit & Drista

Revival Boys - Jack Manifold & Tommyinnit & Wilbur Soot

Boreal Trio - Technoblade & Philza & Ranboo

Doomsday Trio - Philza & Technoblde & Dream

Reaper Trio - Kristen(Mumza) & Philza & Technoblade

Traitor Trio - Wilbur Soot & Nihachu(Niki) & Eret

Hostage trio - Technoblade & Tommyinnit & ConnorEatsPants(Connor)

Revengers - Eret & Technoblade & Tubbo

Fiances - Quackity & Karl & Sapnap

Jealous Trio - Badboyhalo & Skeppy & Quackity

Sex Havers - Karl & Quackity & GeorgeNotFound

Autotune Trio - Wilbur Soot & Slimecicle(Charlie) & Quackity

The Triple T's - Jack Manifold & Tommyinnit & Tubbo

The Triplets - Fundy & Purpled & Tubbo

[appleflavoredkitkats]

let's talk abt c!fundy, as a whole:

i don't really know what i want the flow of this post to be. i don't really have any goals in mind, but i really, really, wanted to talk about c!fundy. i don't think i can intellectually cover his storyline arc by arc because, well, i don't actually think i'm capable of doing that in excruciating detail (especially for l'manberg and nlm) but. oh my god i need to talk about him. and my experience i had backing his character up ever since the pet wars.

takes about fundy as an underrated character only became popular around the time manberg ended. a big contributing factor to this is that dsmp recap and update accounts on tumblr and twt only started thriving by that time. so basically, a lot of pre-end of manberg stuff done by cc's who weren't tommy, wilbur, or quackity tended to be ignored, because nobody realized there were more pov’s to consider.

and tbh! as much as i was a bitter fan last 2020, i do want to acknowledge this isn't the fault of the fans. but of course this doesn't come without repercussions. a good portion of people only realized fundy was a spy for pogtopia only when he revealed it to wilbur. this comes as a surprise to me at that time because fundy confirmed as early as eret's election results stream that he was going to pretend to be a traitor.

but okay, that's well and settled. but i guess the bigger issue back then i grappled with a lot as a fundy fan was that many people described fundy's eventual reverence to schlatt and his “disownment” of wilbur to be out of nowhere or uncalled for. as someone who has paid attention to fundy to a tee ever since the pet wars, there is so much little things that occurred that built up fundy's dislike towards wilbur.

for one— wilbur's absence and belittlement of the pet war fiasco. although i'll give it that the pet wars is more of an exploration of fundy's character, especially as a friend to others, rather than something that proved wilbur's neglect. the elections was really where things start becoming finicky. from the mix of tommy saying fundy “would have been exiled from l'manberg if he weren't wilbur's son” (which caused him to create coconut2020) to him not siding with wilbur in the election debates, expressing his feelings of exclusion within l'manberg. there are so many moments, expressions of frustrations for how belittled he feels in the eyes of wilbur and tommy.

and, well, i think this is explored very uniquely in manberg, but in a more subtle way. yes we know about the disowning and the charged exchanges he and wilbur had, but i think that. his relationship with schlatt is one of the more undervalued things about manberg. we know about all the rampant dadschlatt headcanons with tubbo, but oh my god, i need more people to see that it is literally canon that fundy saw schlatt as a father figure and schlatt viewed fundy as his son.

that dynamic is so unexplored. the way fundy first started as a traitor, then almost got caught by schlatt with schlatt telling him that. he hopes fundy can be someone he trusts to make manberg great. man to man. schlatt has continuously raised the ranks fundy had in manberg, makes him tag along in different events. fundy made the schlatt throne and the decorations for manberg.

fundy gave up being a spy because he thought schlatt respected him more than wilbur. then, schlatt killed some cats during the festival and blew it all. i think, on one hand, it's funny this is all it took. on the other, fundy has shown to have massive reverence for the pets that exist in this server. the pet war especially, where it's not only fungi who he avenged but beelloon and niki's fish and farm animals and his own endermen. he himself even couldn't kill skechers. he was upset in nlm when tubbo accidentally killed his fox.

and again, wilbur's absence during the pet wars spoke loudly to him, so when he sees wilbur in schlatt for the first time, he drops him.

there's also sort of a meta angle with fundy being sidelined as a character. i always mention this in my own posts, but yeah. i believe cc!fundy mentioned during manberg that it was hard playing a villain because his views plummeted. and i also find it interesting that cc!fundy didn't stream a lot of pivotal moments in the dsmp during nlm, like schlatt's funeral and the butcher army fiasco. he wasn't even present during the disc war finale.

i can never in my life assume whatever cc!fundy wanted for his character, but i remember, before las nevadas was announced, i came to terms with realizing that i cannot control whatever cc!fundy wanted with his character. if he wanted to step away from the dsmp then i supported it, because if he didn't find himself having fun doing all that, or he thinks not a lot of people liked his character despite his efforts, then i get it.

doomsday isn't my favorite fundy moment. it's subjective, and definitely a hot take among the fundy community, but to me letting go and breaking down felt like a low hanging fruit for him, because genuinely i didn't expect it. there's no build up to it. not in the neglect department, no, fundy definitely has been traumatized enough. but i feel like the manner in which this was expressed felt too angry to be in character— which, tbh, is bold of me to say because who am i to question cc!fundy's character decisions. but genuinely there wasn't a lot of streams in between that and other emotional beats to warrant a heavy breakdown like that.

ok, before i get skewered, what i'm saying is that i think doomsday tends to overshadow everything else fundy did because a lot of fans really wanted some kind of villain arc like that from him. and as cool as the “i want to make them cry” thing is, i don’t think fundy breaking down angrily like that and giving up on everything is representative of his entire character, especially when we see the larger picture with las nevadas and his reunion with wilbur.

fundy is emotional, but not angry. he gets angry at wilbur for almost leaving during their reunion, but he pleads immediately after. he yelps “what the fuck?” at quackity when quackity belittles his achievements, but he pleads “i don't know what to do” softly when quackity compares him to l'manberg fading away.

fundy's character hopes easily, gets attached easily, which is why his breakdown to me feels like a puzzle piece that doesn't fit. to be fair, i can't expect all things in the dsmp to be executed perfectly! and if it weren't for las nevadas, doomsday would've probably been the finale for fundy's storyline, and it makes more sense to view it that way.

but imma just say, thank the fuck it wasn't.

my most favorite thing about fundy would be his consistency, especially with what kind of baggage his character brings within every arc. i think the las nevadas episode that showcases how quackity manipulated him into joining establishes exactly what fundy’s character is in essence.

when quackity compared him to the fading buildings in l'manberg, we got it. we got the confirmation i wanted on what his character is supposed to be, and that is— principally and representatively, he is l'manberg. wilbur's definition of what l'manberg's supposed to be. originally, l'manberg prided itself on peaceful unity that didn't rely on minecraft pvp as a source of power, which is the complete antithesis of the entire cycle of violence we observe in the dsmp later on.

of course, wilbur lets go of these ideas being realistic after they win, then completely gives up mid-pogtopia arc, because to him, l'manberg is a manifestation of his ideologies succeeding. if it doesn't, then l'manberg is nothing. so what does it mean then, in this case, if l'manberg was something wilbur promised to fundy?

well. to me that means wilbur succeeded. fundy is l'manberg. let me explain.

fundy, like tubbo, was present in all iterations of l'manberg. he was close to every single president, usually one of their backups whenever an event occurs. this also happens with las nevadas. he becomes blindlessly devoted to someone if they give him a lick of attention, something wilbur never gave him, but more importantly, his presidents promised him safety and prosperity. when he and schlatt fought before schlatt died, fundy mentioned he sided with schlatt until he ruined plans with manberg.

this is why he also believed in nlm, in las nevadas. he believes in the upturn of cyclical violence in the dsmp, unconditionally and devotedly. he created flags for manberg and lnv, hell, even gogtopia, and he as a dutch also inspired l'manberg's flag. while i also don't think he fully embodies the idea of peace (he is a prankster after all), he definitely embodies how that pacifistic mindset is viewed or treated in the dsmp.

which explains how he dies, i suppose. he dies diving into the l'manberg crater, after cutting ties with wilbur. it's metaphorical in one way, and sad in the other. on one hand, it makes sense. if the embodiment of l'manberg and its principles cut its ties from wilbur, especially considering that the dsmp ends a few months later without ending the cycle of violence, of course they would die. they would disappear.

it would explain why cc!wilbur explains the scene as fundy wanting to get as far away from wilbur as much as possible, not to end it all.

on the other hand, it's sad because… if your entire character is dependent on that toxic connection to nationalism, l'manberg, and wilbur, then, what are you? a few days later, fundy donates the schlatt sword he holds dear and calls an “heirloom” away to the museum. he stands in the rain and disappears from the dsmp forever.

sometimes i wonder what fundy would be, independent of l'manberg. to be okay with being alone, with not involving himself in countries with big plans of power.

it's a hard thing to figure out because we never see fundy after that moment. even before those moments, fundy defined himself always from the way he gets belittled. even the fact that he is a prankster gets roped into this, because he is often made a punchline to other characters like schlatt, phil, tommy, and more. no one takes him seriously. if everyone treats your existence as nothing but a joke, what part of you, then, is real?

we never got to understand what fundy's dreams mean, in the end. we've only seen two instances of this, although in the stream where he finds out wilbur is alive again, he mentions having multiple dreams seeing wilbur. i guess what i can offer is that fundy having such a useful power such as prophetic dreams just proves how he has no one to report things to.

it's like greek myth's cassandra. he's gifted with the skill of knowledge and foresight that he literally cannot use because no one takes him seriously. theoretically, he could have predicted dream's escape, charlie's death, but if he has no one he could trust, what's the point?

fundy’s so much more than what people see him as, inside lore and outside. his entire character explores what it means to be sidelined, to constantly question your worth because of other's input to the point you become it. and when we finally get the catharsis of him letting go, he becomes… nothing. he disappears.

it's sad to see fundy's storyline end this way, but as a fan, i think it felt complete. it felt right. a friend once told me closure is a luxury in the dsmp and fundy is not exempt from that. i'm happy cc!fundy was able to at least tell us a complete story like that, and i'm happy to have met so many fundy fans throughout my entire time here.

he's a great character. i'm happy that he at least exists and prospers in our eyes.