#to how lucienne beseeches him and how he clearly disagrees with her yet he remains respectful
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oimoi-op · 8 months ago
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About your tags on the Lucienne post: oh we usually aren't even half this nice LMAOOO I could be a lot meaner but like. Both our posting about her and also the anger and frustration comes from the same place of love for and fascination with her. There's so much to talk about it's insane
Literally tho like!!!!! she's such a compelling character on so many levels, yet a lot of the fandom reduces her to the "mom friend" or other similarly reductive if not misogynistic stereotypical roles so for me (someone not super involved in the fandom these days) it's so refreshing to see you and others discussing her on her own merits and not just an accessory/afterthought for someone's white slash ship lol
#ask#the sandman#sandman netflix#lucienne the librarian#like nothing against hob x morpheus it's a perfectly fine ship but i just find it suspect when fandom latches onto a#(noncanonical) ship between two white men in a way that downplays or even demonizes female characters ESPECIALLY queer and woc#i can't help but wonder how much of shipping fandom would be treating her were she white and male like her comics counterpart lol#like she is FAR from morpheus's yes man she WILL criticize and/or challenge his behavior she was a RAVEN for fuck's sake#and yet her interaction with corinthian is like yes she sees morpheus's flaws but she sees the wonderful parts unique to him too#like she knows he's not great and not always just but he's her FRIEND she RESPECTS him and there's a history there#a history that belongs to JUST the two of them#like there have to be reasons why he treats her akin to an equal/peer in that he respects and highly values both her and her opinions#meanwhile you can't say the same for other ppl he interacts with (corinthian was once considered his greatest creation and yet#it's clear they never had the relationship that dream has with lucienne!!! like he clearly was something more than a disposable servant due#to how lucienne beseeches him and how he clearly disagrees with her yet he remains respectful#p much every resident of the dreaming seems to hold her in high regard!!!! she commands RESPECT!!!!#literally she's so cool if i was morpheus i too would start reconsidering my actions so she doesn't look at me in disappointment
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