#to decanonize the worst season of the show!
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I will say, one good thing I actually really like about skybound, is that it removed skybound from the show’s timeline.
#i mean good on it#for going out of its way#to decanonize the worst season of the show!#ninjago#skybound#anti skybound#i am riding the skybound hate train#and it's a pleasant journey#let me tell you
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I'm going to be referring to what I remember from the films and the first six seasons of TCW, since that's the stuff the original creator was actually involved with. Plus, it's the stuff I'm most familiar with.
“No, the Jedi are not pure and virtuous beings who had no faults.”
Except they kinda are, because Lucas wanted it to be clear to his young audience who the heroes and villains were. At worst, their only real fault as per the narrative is that some of them became complacent after a supposed millennium of no Sith, and they didn't anticipate the Sith returning and hiding themselves within the Republic's political infrastructure.
“The Jedi did a lot of shit...”
Examples? Also, if we're talking Legends content, that was decanonized, and Lucas made it clear beforehand he considered it a wholly different story to his own.
“...and got waaaay too comfortable in their positions in the government to even see Palpatine for what he really was.”
They realised he was a crooked politician. As for the whole Sith thing, there was the fact that the spread of the dark side (i.e. stuff like selfishness and greed becoming more prevalent within the galaxy) had hampered their ability to make use of the Force.
“The entire point of the prequels is that they were blinded by their arrogance.”
It's really not. As per Lucas, the point of the Prequels was to show how democracies could become dictatorships, and how good people can become bad ones.
“But the Jedi did fail him because they refused to accommodate him in any meaningful way.”
The worst they did in the films was hesitate to let Qui-Gon bring him into the Jedi Order after he'd spent so many of his formative years outside of it and showed himself a bit too fearful of losing his mother. And while the films don't show what happens between Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, the latter doesn't show Anakin to have any problems with the Jedi overall. At least not outside of him making a single remark about how he can't be with the people he loves, which is really just a consequence of him being raised outside of the Jedi Order and thus being a bit less selfless than the average Jedi.
(Also, they left his mom to continue to be a fucking slave.)
The only way this was explicitly shown to negatively affect her was that it kept her stuck on Tatooine, something she was more or less okay with. And she ended up getting free through someone else before her life as a slave could get worse. Also, for all his missing her and wanting to return and free her in Phantom Menace, Anakin - who didn't know she'd already gotten herself free - wasn't shown to be particularly bothered about her situation in Attack of the Clones himself, at least until he had reason to believe her life was in actual danger. Heck, when Obi-Wan asks him if he dreams of his mother, he says he'd much rather dream about Padmé.
“Anakin's fall was also equally as much his fault as it was the Jedi's.”
I'm hesitant to appoint equal blame to both Anakin and the Jedi myself. Yes, the Jedi Council made some less than ideal decisions that made them appeal to him less than Palpatine did post-Attack of the Clones. But Palpatine was sinking his hooks into the kid before all that, plus Anakin had issues when it came to the possibility of losing people he cared about. I'm pretty sure the majority of decent people wouldn't commit the equivalent of a school shooting when it came to such issues.
And hey, for all of Anakin's grievances with the Jedi and trust of Palpatine, he was more than willing to disregard those grievances and turn on the latter after Palpatine revealed himself to be Sidious. He got cold feet about it afterwards, sure, but the only reason he was shown to have done so was because he was that afraid of losing Padmé.
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In regards to your tags, I'm willing to believe you when you say you like the Jedi. But at the same time, while I don't know how exactly you're planning to write them as flawed good guys, I do believe it's possible to do so without just regurgitating stuff that's based on misinterpretations of Lucas's works.
Not to get too much into Star Wars discourse but here we go--
No, the Sith are not inherently evil. The Sith code can be interpreted in different ways and it is interpreted differently by different characters. Writers are allowed to experiment and put nuance to the sides of the Force.
No, the Jedi are not pure and virtuous beings who had no faults. The Jedi did a lot of shit, and got waaaay too comfortable in their positions in the government to even see Palpatine for what he really was. The entire point of the prequels is that they were blinded by their arrogance.
Anakin was not the good guy, and his fall is inherently tragic. But the Jedi did fail him because they refused to accommodate him in any meaningful way. (Also, they left his mom to continue to be a fucking slave.) The Jedi were not prepared for someone like him.
Obi-Wan did the best he could, and while he also has fault in Anakin's fall, it wasn't solely his fault. Speaking of which, Anakin's fall was also equally as much his fault as it was the Jedi's.
Is that it? Yeah, I think that's it
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